Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 2012-09-30 21:55, Richard Yates wrote: > unicode 2215: ∕ That's the division slash, but that should also work since it's not the Solidus (U+002F). I tested on Times New Roman, and the Division Slash and the Fraction Slash seems to use the same glyph. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 2012-09-30 20:37, Christopher Smith wrote: > I don't know the Windows version of this character. Perhaps someone can help > out? The fraction slash is a standard Unicode character, and Unicode isn't platform-specific. It's at slot U+2044. I have no idea how to get it with a standard Windows keystroke though, although it can be entered on the numpad if unicode numpad functionality is on. Or paste it from the Character Map utility to Fin2012, or use some Unicode utility. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
> There is a character typed on a Mac with opt-sh-1 ⁄ (there's one) that is > actually a > fraction slash, which gets written into part names. Only the slash under the > question mark / (there's one) called a solidus I think, causes problems in > PDFs. So > use the fraction slash (opt-sh-1) in your part names and all will be fine. > > I don't know the Windows version of this character. Perhaps someone can help > out? unicode 2215: ∕ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
When Finale sees a slash, it removes ALL the part name from the PDF, so when you expect "Title Flute/Picc.mus.pdf" you only get "Title.mus.pdf". Since the score has this name as well, it either gets overwritten, or it overwrites the part. If you have more than one part with a slash in the name, only the LAST part printed gets a PDF; all the others that don't have a part name get overwritten, with no error message. However, there is an easy solution! There is a character typed on a Mac with opt-sh-1 ⁄ (there's one) that is actually a fraction slash, which gets written into part names. Only the slash under the question mark / (there's one) called a solidus I think, causes problems in PDFs. So use the fraction slash (opt-sh-1) in your part names and all will be fine. I don't know the Windows version of this character. Perhaps someone can help out? Christopher On Sun Sep 30, at SundaySep 30 2:06 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: > > not wanting to induce panic, but i hope this doesn't have anything to > do with the file overwrite problem some have had. > > i just did a few tests (but haven't got a solution for you, sorry!) > on a document i just set up for the tests. > > if the document has only one part and the part name has a slash, it > prints correctly. probably because in this case it doesn't append > the instrument name to the PDF as it does with multi-part documents > (i didn't know this!)... > > so i have a mellophone PT with its instrument name defined in manage > PTs as "instrument/part" and added a horn in F and generated PTs. > when i print (select both PTs to print) i get only one PDF (although > the print dialogue appears twice, as you have experienced) whose > filename is "testscore.mus - Horn in F.pdf" but in fact the > instrument name showing is "instrument/part"... very strange. > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 9/30/2012 12:03 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote: > On 2012-09-30 20:53, dershem wrote: > >> Yweah, 2012 added a LOT of unnecessary complexity, so you have to go >> into the score manager on each part and change it. It was (like many >> things) better in earlier releases. > > YOU add the complexity... > > > Best regards, > > Jari Williamsson I disagree, but that's just us. I found the score manager extremely inefficient for changing part names, as it ALWAYS took three or four tries before they stuck, and they never came out as I entered them. cd -- http://projectselene.com === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 9/30/2012 1:41 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > I would dearly love to include a slash "/" in a part name (for doubling > parts) but when I do that it won't automatically generate the PDF for the > part. I would guess this is because "/" is used for path names by the OS. > Does anyone have a satisfactory solution to the problem? By satisfactory, I > mean that won't force me to manually (separately) generate the PDFs for > doubling parts and also that won't force me to have special page titles for > the part name that are hidden in other parts. > I use hyphens wherever I would rather use slashes in file names and the meaning is still very clear. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 2012-09-30 20:53, dershem wrote: > Yweah, 2012 added a LOT of unnecessary complexity, so you have to go > into the score manager on each part and change it. It was (like many > things) better in earlier releases. YOU add the complexity... Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 9/30/2012 11:42 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > @Carl: I don't understand your solution, but it sounds intriguing. Which > field in the File Info do you use? Is it different per part? Yweah, 2012 added a LOT of unnecessary complexity, so you have to go into the score manager on each part and change it. It was (like many things) better in earlier releases. cd > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM, dershem wrote: > >> On 9/30/2012 11:06 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: >>> >>> not wanting to induce panic, but i hope this doesn't have anything to >>> do with the file overwrite problem some have had. >>> >>> i just did a few tests (but haven't got a solution for you, sorry!) >>> on a document i just set up for the tests. >>> >>> if the document has only one part and the part name has a slash, it >>> prints correctly. probably because in this case it doesn't append >>> the instrument name to the PDF as it does with multi-part documents >>> (i didn't know this!)... >>> >>> so i have a mellophone PT with its instrument name defined in manage >>> PTs as "instrument/part" and added a horn in F and generated PTs. >>> when i print (select both PTs to print) i get only one PDF (although >>> the print dialogue appears twice, as you have experienced) whose >>> filename is "testscore.mus - Horn in F.pdf" but in fact the >>> instrument name showing is "instrument/part"... very strange. >> >> the "/" character is used by the OS (all OS's), and so can't be used in >> a file name. But you don't HAVE to. >> >> When I have parts that call for doubles (pit orchestra parts and big >> band parts mostly), I leave the default part names intact, and then go >> into "File Info" and put the detailed names with the ? and the () part >> name there. They will show up on the parts but will not confuse the >> computer. >> >> This is handy when the part name is "Woodwind 1 (Alto >> Sax/Flute/Piccolo)" though commas would work as well there. >> >> cd >> >> -- >> http://projectselene.com >> >> >> >> >> === >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> === >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 7532 (20120930) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > === > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) > http://www.pctools.com/ > === > -- http://projectselene.com === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 2012-09-30 19:41, Robert Patterson wrote: > I would dearly love to include a slash "/" in a part name (for doubling > parts) but when I do that it won't automatically generate the PDF for the > part. I would guess this is because "/" is used for path names by the OS. > Does anyone have a satisfactory solution to the problem? By satisfactory, I > mean that won't force me to manually (separately) generate the PDFs for > doubling parts and also that won't force me to have special page titles for > the part name that are hidden in other parts. Use fraction slash instead. I believe it's Option-Shift-1 on the Mac US keyboard. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
@Carl: I don't understand your solution, but it sounds intriguing. Which field in the File Info do you use? Is it different per part? On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM, dershem wrote: > On 9/30/2012 11:06 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: > > > > not wanting to induce panic, but i hope this doesn't have anything to > > do with the file overwrite problem some have had. > > > > i just did a few tests (but haven't got a solution for you, sorry!) > > on a document i just set up for the tests. > > > > if the document has only one part and the part name has a slash, it > > prints correctly. probably because in this case it doesn't append > > the instrument name to the PDF as it does with multi-part documents > > (i didn't know this!)... > > > > so i have a mellophone PT with its instrument name defined in manage > > PTs as "instrument/part" and added a horn in F and generated PTs. > > when i print (select both PTs to print) i get only one PDF (although > > the print dialogue appears twice, as you have experienced) whose > > filename is "testscore.mus - Horn in F.pdf" but in fact the > > instrument name showing is "instrument/part"... very strange. > > the "/" character is used by the OS (all OS's), and so can't be used in > a file name. But you don't HAVE to. > > When I have parts that call for doubles (pit orchestra parts and big > band parts mostly), I leave the default part names intact, and then go > into "File Info" and put the detailed names with the ? and the () part > name there. They will show up on the parts but will not confuse the > computer. > > This is handy when the part name is "Woodwind 1 (Alto > Sax/Flute/Piccolo)" though commas would work as well there. > > cd > > -- > http://projectselene.com > > > > > === > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) > http://www.pctools.com/ > === > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
On 9/30/2012 11:06 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: > > not wanting to induce panic, but i hope this doesn't have anything to > do with the file overwrite problem some have had. > > i just did a few tests (but haven't got a solution for you, sorry!) > on a document i just set up for the tests. > > if the document has only one part and the part name has a slash, it > prints correctly. probably because in this case it doesn't append > the instrument name to the PDF as it does with multi-part documents > (i didn't know this!)... > > so i have a mellophone PT with its instrument name defined in manage > PTs as "instrument/part" and added a horn in F and generated PTs. > when i print (select both PTs to print) i get only one PDF (although > the print dialogue appears twice, as you have experienced) whose > filename is "testscore.mus - Horn in F.pdf" but in fact the > instrument name showing is "instrument/part"... very strange. the "/" character is used by the OS (all OS's), and so can't be used in a file name. But you don't HAVE to. When I have parts that call for doubles (pit orchestra parts and big band parts mostly), I leave the default part names intact, and then go into "File Info" and put the detailed names with the ? and the () part name there. They will show up on the parts but will not confuse the computer. This is handy when the part name is "Woodwind 1 (Alto Sax/Flute/Piccolo)" though commas would work as well there. cd -- http://projectselene.com === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
not wanting to induce panic, but i hope this doesn't have anything to do with the file overwrite problem some have had. i just did a few tests (but haven't got a solution for you, sorry!) on a document i just set up for the tests. if the document has only one part and the part name has a slash, it prints correctly. probably because in this case it doesn't append the instrument name to the PDF as it does with multi-part documents (i didn't know this!)... so i have a mellophone PT with its instrument name defined in manage PTs as "instrument/part" and added a horn in F and generated PTs. when i print (select both PTs to print) i get only one PDF (although the print dialogue appears twice, as you have experienced) whose filename is "testscore.mus - Horn in F.pdf" but in fact the instrument name showing is "instrument/part"... very strange. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Including slash in a part name
Perhaps the vertical line | will work for you? (Shift \ -- it's above RETURN on my Apple keyboard). On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > I would dearly love to include a slash "/" in a part name (for doubling > parts) but when I do that it won't automatically generate the PDF for the > part. I would guess this is because "/" is used for path names by the OS. > Does anyone have a satisfactory solution to the problem? By satisfactory, I > mean that won't force me to manually (separately) generate the PDFs for > doubling parts and also that won't force me to have special page titles for > the part name that are hidden in other parts. > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Including slash in a part name
I would dearly love to include a slash "/" in a part name (for doubling parts) but when I do that it won't automatically generate the PDF for the part. I would guess this is because "/" is used for path names by the OS. Does anyone have a satisfactory solution to the problem? By satisfactory, I mean that won't force me to manually (separately) generate the PDFs for doubling parts and also that won't force me to have special page titles for the part name that are hidden in other parts. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
