Re: [Finale] volume drop

[Haroldo Mauro]

This same file continues to give me problem. Every time I open the file to work 
on it, the volumes are changed for the Garritan sounds Flugel and Bass. Bass is 
too quiet and flugel too loud, despite there being no change in the volume 
numbers, in the Score Manager windows, since last time the file was opened. The 
only thing that fixes it is to unchek "Play Finale through Audio Units", check 
"Play Finale Through MIDI" then check Audio again. This done, the Flugel part 
now has some kind of trumpet and a higher number for volume; bass has a much 
lower number. So I need to choose Flugel again from the popUp menu and lower 
its volume, and raise the bass volume. Any clue as to why this happens every 
time? Some instruments are from Garritan others from SmartMusicSoftSinth.

Harold

On 23/04/2016, at 18:56, Haroldo Mauro wrote:

> Tried clearing the MIDI data first, as suggested by Raymond, but did not 
> work. This did work! Thanks everybody!
> Haroldo
> 
> 
> On 23/04/2016, at 16:10, timothy price wrote:
> 
>> What I suggest is to make sure that you have located the measure where the 
>> volume reduction begins, and that you have a copy of that section in another 
>> file for reference.   Completely remove the measure stack in the section you 
>> are working with.  Try playing playing the piece and see if the reduction in 
>> volume continues to occur beyond the point where you deleted measures.  If 
>> the problem has been fixed, then add the measure stack as it was, without 
>> notation, and then copy in the notation or rewrite it, and check each time 
>> you complete each instrument staff in the new stack.  This will often show 
>> you where the problem is, or it simply fixes it.
>> 
>> This may seem time consuming, but it really is the fastest way, in my 
>> experience.
>> 
>> tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 23, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
>> 
>> Now, at a certain point, sax
 and
>> trumpet volume drops considerably. I have no clue of what is causing
 it. I
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Finale] volume drop

[Haroldo Mauro]

Tried clearing the MIDI data first, as suggested by Raymond, but did not work. 
This did work! Thanks everybody!
Haroldo


On 23/04/2016, at 16:10, timothy price wrote:

> What I suggest is to make sure that you have located the measure where the 
> volume reduction begins, and that you have a copy of that section in another 
> file for reference.   Completely remove the measure stack in the section you 
> are working with.  Try playing playing the piece and see if the reduction in 
> volume continues to occur beyond the point where you deleted measures.  If 
> the problem has been fixed, then add the measure stack as it was, without 
> notation, and then copy in the notation or rewrite it, and check each time 
> you complete each instrument staff in the new stack.  This will often show 
> you where the problem is, or it simply fixes it.
> 
> This may seem time consuming, but it really is the fastest way, in my 
> experience.
> 
> tim
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 23, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
> 
> Now, at a certain point, sax
>>> and
> trumpet volume drops considerably. I have no clue of what is causing
>>> it. I
> 
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Re: [Finale] volume drop

[timothy price]

What I suggest is to make sure that you have located the measure where the 
volume reduction begins, and that you have a copy of that section in another 
file for reference.   Completely remove the measure stack in the section you 
are working with.  Try playing playing the piece and see if the reduction in 
volume continues to occur beyond the point where you deleted measures.  If the 
problem has been fixed, then add the measure stack as it was, without notation, 
and then copy in the notation or rewrite it, and check each time you complete 
each instrument staff in the new stack.  This will often show you where the 
problem is, or it simply fixes it.

This may seem time consuming, but it really is the fastest way, in my 
experience.

tim



On Apr 23, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:

  Now, at a certain point, sax
>> and
 trumpet volume drops considerably. I have no clue of what is causing
>> it. I


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Re: [Finale] volume drop

[Raymond Horton]

Been there, done that.
On Apr 23, 2016 1:11 PM, "Dennis Bathory-Kitsz" 
wrote:

> Yes, this is what I do. If it doesn't do it, then I look for expressions
> that
> were accidentally given values. A bad habit that I have is to copy
> expressions
> so that I don't have to hunt down font combinations, etc. -- but forget to
> remove or change the playback content.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> On Sat, April 23, 2016 12:25 pm, Raymond Horton wrote:
> > I run into this thing all the time. I clear the midi data, and that
> usually
> > takes care of it. Highlight the affected passage and go to the edit menu/
> > clear items, select none, then midi.
> > On Apr 23, 2016 11:29 AM, "Haroldo Mauro"  wrote:
> >
> >> This file used to be a song lead sheet created in an old version of
> Finale
> >> Mac, I don't remember which. After saving it as Finale 2014d, I added
> >> several instruments and started arranging. Now, at a certain point, sax
> and
> >> trumpet volume drops considerably. I have no clue of what is causing
> it. I
> >> don't see any dynamics indication anywhere in the score, nor any visible
> >> MIDI editing. Any idea what could it be?
> >>
> >> Harold
>
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Re: [Finale] volume drop

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

On Sat, April 23, 2016 1:14 pm, deanrosent...@gmail.com wrote:
> This has happened to me as well. I sent the file to tech support and they were
> able to show me how to fix it, I remember that in my case clearing the MIDI
> data didn't work. Obviously you could try reloading the instruments, but one
> other suggestion might be to export the file to .xml and then reimport it.

Remember ETF files? They were in ASCII and you could actually hunt down the
errors and fix them. Or sometimes just a save to ETF followed by open from ETF
fixed the errors. I had a huge file (some 1,100 measures) back in the 1990s
that suddenly was eating itself. I saved it as ETF, and reloading it fixed it.
I'm not sure XML is quite as reliable as ETF was in terms of saving exactly
what Finale has created.

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] volume drop

[deanrosenthal]

Hi,

This has happened to me as well. I sent the file to tech support and they were 
able to show me how to fix it, I remember that in my case clearing the MIDI 
data didn't work. Obviously you could try reloading the instruments, but one 
other suggestion might be to export the file to .xml and then reimport it. That 
is a solution support goes to often and it does work sometimes. Of course, 
their famous, "Oh, something's wrong? Trash your preferences." goto that is 
also often suggested by less experienced support staff is not usually necessary 
– and your preferences die, and one thing I've never had them say – not once – 
is that you'll lose all your preferences by doing this, and for newbies like me 
years ago, the dots are not always connected. Voila, they think they're 
helping, but the least they could do is tell you that you'll have a fair amount 
of work to do once you get a new preferences file, and that solution doesn't 
always work, either. Ok, that's my gripe. Anyway, when they suggest doing that 
as a first-line solution I always insist they try harder and troubleshoot in 
more detail and I've yet to have to delete that darn preferences file. 

--
Dean Rosenthal
www.deanrosenthal.org
www.stonespiece.com




> On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
> 
> This file used to be a song lead sheet created in an old version of Finale 
> Mac, I don't remember which. After saving it as Finale 2014d, I added several 
> instruments and started arranging. Now, at a certain point, sax and trumpet 
> volume drops considerably. I have no clue of what is causing it. I don't see 
> any dynamics indication anywhere in the score, nor any visible MIDI editing. 
> Any idea what could it be?
> 
> Harold
> 

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Re: [Finale] volume drop

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

Yes, this is what I do. If it doesn't do it, then I look for expressions that
were accidentally given values. A bad habit that I have is to copy expressions
so that I don't have to hunt down font combinations, etc. -- but forget to
remove or change the playback content.

Dennis


On Sat, April 23, 2016 12:25 pm, Raymond Horton wrote:
> I run into this thing all the time. I clear the midi data, and that usually
> takes care of it. Highlight the affected passage and go to the edit menu/
> clear items, select none, then midi.
> On Apr 23, 2016 11:29 AM, "Haroldo Mauro"  wrote:
>
>> This file used to be a song lead sheet created in an old version of Finale
>> Mac, I don't remember which. After saving it as Finale 2014d, I added
>> several instruments and started arranging. Now, at a certain point, sax and
>> trumpet volume drops considerably. I have no clue of what is causing it. I
>> don't see any dynamics indication anywhere in the score, nor any visible
>> MIDI editing. Any idea what could it be?
>>
>> Harold


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Re: [Finale] volume drop

[Raymond Horton]

I run into this thing all the time. I clear the midi data, and that usually
takes care of it. Highlight the affected passage and go to the edit menu/
clear items, select none, then midi.
On Apr 23, 2016 11:29 AM, "Haroldo Mauro"  wrote:

> This file used to be a song lead sheet created in an old version of Finale
> Mac, I don't remember which. After saving it as Finale 2014d, I added
> several instruments and started arranging. Now, at a certain point, sax and
> trumpet volume drops considerably. I have no clue of what is causing it. I
> don't see any dynamics indication anywhere in the score, nor any visible
> MIDI editing. Any idea what could it be?
>
> Harold
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