[Flashcoders] Flash Google
I have a client whose website I developed (something like a year ago) in Flash and the site is totally driven by xml configuration files. It works well. My client has told me that google has indexed the site, but the google indexing contains an warning message - basically the flash site app saying it was unable to read an xml file. I have never encountered the message myself and the site works as expected, so I guess it's something to do with the google spider or there was some sort of problem when the spider ran. Unfortunately the google search result currently makes the site look broken: Oops! I think something went wrong! Unable to load website XML from 'website_config.xml' - loading timed out. I'm no google expert, so what's the best remedy to get google to index this site properly? I might be encouraged to write less flippant messages in the future. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
Hi Paul, Your best bet is to use something like SwfObject to write the flash in JavaScript, while serving indexable content to Google. That can be just some static text, or dynamically read content from the xml files. A fringe benefit of that is the ability to serve alternate content to browsers with no Flash (eg, iPhone and iPad). Karina -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders- boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Paul Andrews Sent: 20 April 2010 10:52 To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash Google I have a client whose website I developed (something like a year ago) in Flash and the site is totally driven by xml configuration files. It works well. My client has told me that google has indexed the site, but the google indexing contains an warning message - basically the flash site app saying it was unable to read an xml file. I have never encountered the message myself and the site works as expected, so I guess it's something to do with the google spider or there was some sort of problem when the spider ran. Unfortunately the google search result currently makes the site look broken: Oops! I think something went wrong! Unable to load website XML from 'website_config.xml' - loading timed out. I'm no google expert, so what's the best remedy to get google to index this site properly? I might be encouraged to write less flippant messages in the future. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a browser, if from a bot, serve up your xml, if from a browser server up your site. have a google for swfaddress SEO On 20 April 2010 11:52, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: I have a client whose website I developed (something like a year ago) in Flash and the site is totally driven by xml configuration files. It works well. My client has told me that google has indexed the site, but the google indexing contains an warning message - basically the flash site app saying it was unable to read an xml file. I have never encountered the message myself and the site works as expected, so I guess it's something to do with the google spider or there was some sort of problem when the spider ran. Unfortunately the google search result currently makes the site look broken: Oops! I think something went wrong! Unable to load website XML from 'website_config.xml' - loading timed out. I'm no google expert, so what's the best remedy to get google to index this site properly? I might be encouraged to write less flippant messages in the future. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!
if you just moved from a third-world country and promised the client a huge ecommerce flash site and usually hire russian flash devs but don't have any contacts now and don't have money for a book then i would advise against posting. heh heh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
Before anyone gets excited, I don't wish to re-ignite the Jobs/Apple hatemail (please pick another thread to manifest your anger) - just a question about the Apple development stranglehold. Even if the output from Adobes Flash-Apple conversion doesn't result in an officially sanctioned app that can be sold via the appstore, is there still an internal route to deployment perhaps as a company internal app that isn't sold to Joe public. How exactly is the stranglehold enforced besides the appstore and official developer agreements? I'm just curious about the potential use of the conversion for prototypes or niche uses. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
Isn't that kind of thing considered unfair play and penalized by search engines if discovered? Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2010/4/20 tom rhodes tom.rho...@gmail.com use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a browser, if from a bot, serve up your xml, if from a browser server up your site. have a google for swfaddress SEO On 20 April 2010 11:52, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: I have a client whose website I developed (something like a year ago) in Flash and the site is totally driven by xml configuration files. It works well. My client has told me that google has indexed the site, but the google indexing contains an warning message - basically the flash site app saying it was unable to read an xml file. I have never encountered the message myself and the site works as expected, so I guess it's something to do with the google spider or there was some sort of problem when the spider ran. Unfortunately the google search result currently makes the site look broken: Oops! I think something went wrong! Unable to load website XML from 'website_config.xml' - loading timed out. I'm no google expert, so what's the best remedy to get google to index this site properly? I might be encouraged to write less flippant messages in the future. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
I believe you just can't sell the app on the appstore. You can export and add it to any iPhone, its just against their SDK to sell it on iTunes. --Original Message-- From: Paul Andrews Sender: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flash Coders List ReplyTo: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob Sent: Apr 20, 2010 7:26 AM Before anyone gets excited, I don't wish to re-ignite the Jobs/Apple hatemail (please pick another thread to manifest your anger) - just a question about the Apple development stranglehold. Even if the output from Adobes Flash-Apple conversion doesn't result in an officially sanctioned app that can be sold via the appstore, is there still an internal route to deployment perhaps as a company internal app that isn't sold to Joe public. How exactly is the stranglehold enforced besides the appstore and official developer agreements? I'm just curious about the potential use of the conversion for prototypes or niche uses. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
as long as what you serve to the bots and as no flash content isn't different to what gets read by your flash i think it's cool... On 20 April 2010 14:29, Juan Pablo Califano califa010.flashcod...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that kind of thing considered unfair play and penalized by search engines if discovered? Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2010/4/20 tom rhodes tom.rho...@gmail.com use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a browser, if from a bot, serve up your xml, if from a browser server up your site. have a google for swfaddress SEO On 20 April 2010 11:52, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: I have a client whose website I developed (something like a year ago) in Flash and the site is totally driven by xml configuration files. It works well. My client has told me that google has indexed the site, but the google indexing contains an warning message - basically the flash site app saying it was unable to read an xml file. I have never encountered the message myself and the site works as expected, so I guess it's something to do with the google spider or there was some sort of problem when the spider ran. Unfortunately the google search result currently makes the site look broken: Oops! I think something went wrong! Unable to load website XML from 'website_config.xml' - loading timed out. I'm no google expert, so what's the best remedy to get google to index this site properly? I might be encouraged to write less flippant messages in the future. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:38:41 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob I believe you just can't sell the app on the appstore. You can export and add it to any iPhone, its just against their SDK to sell it on iTunes. --Original Message-- From: Paul Andrews Sender: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flash Coders List ReplyTo: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob Sent: Apr 20, 2010 7:26 AM Before anyone gets excited, I don't wish to re-ignite the Jobs/Apple hatemail (please pick another thread to manifest your anger) - just a question about the Apple development stranglehold. Even if the output from Adobes Flash-Apple conversion doesn't result in an officially sanctioned app that can be sold via the appstore, is there still an internal route to deployment perhaps as a company internal app that isn't sold to Joe public. How exactly is the stranglehold enforced besides the appstore and official developer agreements? I'm just curious about the potential use of the conversion for prototypes or niche uses. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
This is true. If for some reason google thinks you are trying to advance your rank by wrongful ways (to their discretion) you get flagged. Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: tom rhodes tom.rho...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:42:21 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google as long as what you serve to the bots and as no flash content isn't different to what gets read by your flash i think it's cool... On 20 April 2010 14:29, Juan Pablo Califano califa010.flashcod...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that kind of thing considered unfair play and penalized by search engines if discovered? Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2010/4/20 tom rhodes tom.rho...@gmail.com use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a browser, if from a bot, serve up your xml, if from a browser server up your site. have a google for swfaddress SEO On 20 April 2010 11:52, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: I have a client whose website I developed (something like a year ago) in Flash and the site is totally driven by xml configuration files. It works well. My client has told me that google has indexed the site, but the google indexing contains an warning message - basically the flash site app saying it was unable to read an xml file. I have never encountered the message myself and the site works as expected, so I guess it's something to do with the google spider or there was some sort of problem when the spider ran. Unfortunately the google search result currently makes the site look broken: Oops! I think something went wrong! Unable to load website XML from 'website_config.xml' - loading timed out. I'm no google expert, so what's the best remedy to get google to index this site properly? I might be encouraged to write less flippant messages in the future. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
pretty sure you can't do that On 20 April 2010 14:46, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:38:41 To: Flash Coders Listflashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob I believe you just can't sell the app on the appstore. You can export and add it to any iPhone, its just against their SDK to sell it on iTunes. --Original Message-- From: Paul Andrews Sender: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flash Coders List ReplyTo: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob Sent: Apr 20, 2010 7:26 AM Before anyone gets excited, I don't wish to re-ignite the Jobs/Apple hatemail (please pick another thread to manifest your anger) - just a question about the Apple development stranglehold. Even if the output from Adobes Flash-Apple conversion doesn't result in an officially sanctioned app that can be sold via the appstore, is there still an internal route to deployment perhaps as a company internal app that isn't sold to Joe public. How exactly is the stranglehold enforced besides the appstore and official developer agreements? I'm just curious about the potential use of the conversion for prototypes or niche uses. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
On 20/04/2010 13:46, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com I think there's a problem in the last stage of the deployment - you need a Mac + the development SDK licence now forbids the use of foreign libraries and hooks, so I think that's the official gotcha. I'm curious if there's a deployment method that bypasses the official SDK. Paul ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
If the Agreement doesnt currently prevent it, you can be quite certain a couple sentences would be added in a hurry to make sure it does. .m On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
There is an enterprise version of the SDK that allows app distribution via your own servers (effectively replacing the app store). We looked at this for a state agency wanting to distribute apps to their employees. http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/enterprise/ The Ad Hoc distribution of the individual SDK allows 100 people to use the application. I don't know much about this, but apparently it can be done via email or whatever. I'm not entirely sure how they limit you to 100 people (http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/distribute.html) Jer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
They would have to be jailbreaked (jailbroken?) iPhones to run that. All apps require a digital certificate, which is managed through their developer program to be loaded onto the phone and run. The type of certificate controls whether how they can be distributed. Non store-distributed apps are restricted to 100 phones. -jonathan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com wrote: If the Agreement doesnt currently prevent it, you can be quite certain a couple sentences would be added in a hurry to make sure it does. .m On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- -jonathan howe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
any developer can add an app to their phone through the compilation options from xcode using the sdk but there's no way i know of rolling this out to the public. i think for what you want, going through the cydia ( http://www.appsafari.com/software/5325/cydia/) store on jailbroken phones / pods is the way to go a On 20 April 2010 14:38, jonathan howe jonathangh...@gmail.com wrote: They would have to be jailbreaked (jailbroken?) iPhones to run that. All apps require a digital certificate, which is managed through their developer program to be loaded onto the phone and run. The type of certificate controls whether how they can be distributed. Non store-distributed apps are restricted to 100 phones. -jonathan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com wrote: If the Agreement doesnt currently prevent it, you can be quite certain a couple sentences would be added in a hurry to make sure it does. .m On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- -jonathan howe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license On 20 April 2010 15:00, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com wrote: any developer can add an app to their phone through the compilation options from xcode using the sdk but there's no way i know of rolling this out to the public. i think for what you want, going through the cydia ( http://www.appsafari.com/software/5325/cydia/) store on jailbroken phones / pods is the way to go a On 20 April 2010 14:38, jonathan howe jonathangh...@gmail.com wrote: They would have to be jailbreaked (jailbroken?) iPhones to run that. All apps require a digital certificate, which is managed through their developer program to be loaded onto the phone and run. The type of certificate controls whether how they can be distributed. Non store-distributed apps are restricted to 100 phones. -jonathan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com wrote: If the Agreement doesnt currently prevent it, you can be quite certain a couple sentences would be added in a hurry to make sure it does. .m On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Nathan Mynarcik nat...@mynarcik.com wrote: Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- -jonathan howe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
On 20/04/2010 15:00, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: any developer can add an app to their phone through the compilation options from xcode using the sdk but there's no way i know of rolling this out to the public. i think for what you want, going through the cydia ( http://www.appsafari.com/software/5325/cydia/) store on jailbroken phones / pods is the way to go a I wouldn't consider an App that could only be run on a Jailbroken phone. The new official SDK prevents usage of the Adobe conversion (the developer licence forbids it). I'm surprised there isn't an alternative cross-compiler out there that bypasses all this stuff. I guess it's a matter of time. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
On 20/04/2010 15:01, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license Which now forbids you to use the Adobe cross compiler. You have to agree to those terms. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
sure but you can compile to your own handset for testing as much as you like - it just won't get through the appstore approval process On 20 April 2010 15:24, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: On 20/04/2010 15:01, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license Which now forbids you to use the Adobe cross compiler. You have to agree to those terms. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
On 20/04/2010 15:31, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: sure but you can compile to your own handset for testing as much as you like - it just won't get through the appstore approval process testing isn't much use to me. I can't build software for internal use at a company on the basis of using a development environment where I am in breach of the licensing agreement. I can't go demonstrating software prototypes and have companies ask me about how they were developed only to have to explain that my working practices are based on broken agreements. On 20 April 2010 15:24, Paul Andrewsp...@ipauland.com wrote: On 20/04/2010 15:01, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license Which now forbids you to use the Adobe cross compiler. You have to agree to those terms. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!
DOH! ;) on 4/19/10 8:32 PM, jared stanley at jared.stan...@gmail.com wrote: if you just moved from a third-world country and promised the client a huge ecommerce flash site and usually hire russian flash devs but don't have any contacts now and don't have money for a book then i would advise against posting. John R. Sweeney Jr. Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc 945 Washington Blvd. Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 Office/Fax: 847.310.5959 Cellular: 847.651.4469 www.ondemandinteractive.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
that's the problem with apple's closed system - it's their way or the high way android supports both models - you can put your software in their appstore or provide a direct link on the net a On 20 April 2010 15:46, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: On 20/04/2010 15:31, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: sure but you can compile to your own handset for testing as much as you like - it just won't get through the appstore approval process testing isn't much use to me. I can't build software for internal use at a company on the basis of using a development environment where I am in breach of the licensing agreement. I can't go demonstrating software prototypes and have companies ask me about how they were developed only to have to explain that my working practices are based on broken agreements. On 20 April 2010 15:24, Paul Andrewsp...@ipauland.com wrote: On 20/04/2010 15:01, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license Which now forbids you to use the Adobe cross compiler. You have to agree to those terms. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!
Peter B wrote: if you just moved from a third-world country and promised the client a huge ecommerce flash site and usually hire russian flash devs but don't have any contacts now and don't have money for a book then i would advise against posting. LMAO! Where's Beno when you need him? Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Seamless e-commerce for AS3? Noob question
Hello, All- I don't want to bomb the list with info that's probably been covered to death, but I'm having limited success in finding a cart/merchant processing solution that will be seamless in an AS3 site. If anyone could recommend a cart/payment processing solution that includes encryption I would be greatly appreciative. The few e-comm sites I've done have been either paypal based or driven by Yahoo's merchant solutions. I can do nearly all the setup, it's just the cart/ payment connectivity that intimidates me. Please reply directly to me s.kl...@steveklein.cc to keep the list clean unless someone else requests similar information. Thank you in advance! Steve Klein ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Seamless e-commerce for AS3? Noob question
This isn't really a Flash/ActionScript related question. There are tons of payment gateways, e.g. authroize.net. All of the ones I know require backend code to work. Taka On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Steve Klein s.kl...@steveklein.cc wrote: Hello, All- I don't want to bomb the list with info that's probably been covered to death, but I'm having limited success in finding a cart/merchant processing solution that will be seamless in an AS3 site. If anyone could recommend a cart/payment processing solution that includes encryption I would be greatly appreciative. The few e-comm sites I've done have been either paypal based or driven by Yahoo's merchant solutions. I can do nearly all the setup, it's just the cart/ payment connectivity that intimidates me. Please reply directly to me s.kl...@steveklein.cc to keep the list clean unless someone else requests similar information. Thank you in advance! Steve Klein ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!
Ryan P wrote: I am kinda new to this listing thing. I am on here cause a friend of my uses this for help with AS3. Is there a faq about how this works, so I don't waste anyones time.. Thanks!! Just one rule: don't do like the ignorant people bellow and reply when you mean to create a new topic. It annoys me. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Seamless e-commerce for AS3? Noob question
i've never seen one specifically made for flash - my guess is that you'll need to create an interface for something xml based a On 20 April 2010 17:40, Steve Klein s.kl...@steveklein.cc wrote: Hello, All- I don't want to bomb the list with info that's probably been covered to death, but I'm having limited success in finding a cart/merchant processing solution that will be seamless in an AS3 site. If anyone could recommend a cart/payment processing solution that includes encryption I would be greatly appreciative. The few e-comm sites I've done have been either paypal based or driven by Yahoo's merchant solutions. I can do nearly all the setup, it's just the cart/ payment connectivity that intimidates me. Please reply directly to me s.kl...@steveklein.cc to keep the list clean unless someone else requests similar information. Thank you in advance! Steve Klein ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!
^ this On 20 April 2010 18:12, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net wrote: Ryan P wrote: I am kinda new to this listing thing. I am on here cause a friend of my uses this for help with AS3. Is there a faq about how this works, so I don't waste anyones time.. Thanks!! Just one rule: don't do like the ignorant people bellow and reply when you mean to create a new topic. It annoys me. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
Paul, That's an interesting distinction. Does the agreement say you can't even test locally those kind of prototypes? I thought the blocking was just for distribution through the store. -jonathan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:57 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com wrote: that's the problem with apple's closed system - it's their way or the high way android supports both models - you can put your software in their appstore or provide a direct link on the net a On 20 April 2010 15:46, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: On 20/04/2010 15:31, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: sure but you can compile to your own handset for testing as much as you like - it just won't get through the appstore approval process testing isn't much use to me. I can't build software for internal use at a company on the basis of using a development environment where I am in breach of the licensing agreement. I can't go demonstrating software prototypes and have companies ask me about how they were developed only to have to explain that my working practices are based on broken agreements. On 20 April 2010 15:24, Paul Andrewsp...@ipauland.com wrote: On 20/04/2010 15:01, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license Which now forbids you to use the Adobe cross compiler. You have to agree to those terms. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- -jonathan howe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
The Testing install on a provisioned device is also time limited. ( I bring this up because my touch just informed me I had 30 days before my Client's app provision expired ). Jer On 20/04/2010 15:31, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: sure but you can compile to your own handset for testing as much as you like - it just won't get through the appstore approval process ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob
On 20/04/2010 20:06, jonathan howe wrote: Paul, That's an interesting distinction. Does the agreement say you can't even test locally those kind of prototypes? I thought the blocking was just for distribution through the store. -jonathan As I understand it the new developer agreement makes you agree that as a licensed Apple developer you will not develop applications that include links to other libraries (or words to that effect). So it's a block on the use of the SDK. Of course, you can agree and still do it, but that's a violation. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] flash X html5
Hi Folks! This is my first message in this forum Im a Brazillian Flash developer and i'd like to ask you about the future of Flash platform. Few times ago I became a little worried about the increasing of css/xhtml web sites instead of flash websites. Actually I can sae many sites that before was created using flash but now they're just using flash in some elements on page. I wanna know your oppinion about it. Should we really feel worry about the css+js integration and the apple to turn off flash player inside iphone, ipad, etc, or flash will always this Sorry for some english errors in this message. Thank's to everyone! -- Marcelo - Email - Msn - GTalk marcelo.tec...@gmail.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
Isn't that kind of thing considered unfair play and penalized by search engines if discovered? It depends on how it's done, exactly. If you have very similar content within Flash and within the alternative HTML you serve, it's not considered cloaking: http://www.cnet.com/8301-13530_1-9748159-28.html Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] flash X html5
I think it depends on what industry you're in, but generally a developer should know how to do a lot of things and not just specialize in one thing. If you only know Flash, and it goes away then you're out of luck. Rather you show know Flash, Javascript, HTML, CSS, etc. You can specialize in Flash and generalize in the others, but the more you know the better and more desirable you'll generally be. If I were in a design shop/agency/advertising, I'd start learning other web technologies right now. Clients will buy Apple devices and want their sites to work - or hear the hype and want their customers to reach them. I'm in the corporate elearning field and I'm not worried about it at all. HTML5 just can't reproduce what we're doing with Flash and even if it did, we're still on IE7. It'll be a long time before we're ready to use HTML5/Canvas/etc. so the kind of output that I produce isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Flash has a lot of uses outside of advertising, but that's what draws all of the ire. On 4/20/2010 4:27 PM, m...@rcello wrote: Hi Folks! This is my first message in this forum Im a Brazillian Flash developer and i'd like to ask you about the future of Flash platform. Few times ago I became a little worried about the increasing of css/xhtml web sites instead of flash websites. Actually I can sae many sites that before was created using flash but now they're just using flash in some elements on page. I wanna know your oppinion about it. Should we really feel worry about the css+js integration and the apple to turn off flash player inside iphone, ipad, etc, or flash will always this Sorry for some english errors in this message. Thank's to everyone! -- Matt Perkins http://www.nudoru.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] flash X html5
Wired magazine says Flash will be viable for a long time, isn't going away anytime soon. They discuss HTML5/Apple/Silverlight and more: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/04/flash-faces-down-threats-on-adobes-big- day/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2F software%2Fcoolapps+%28Wired%3A+Software+-+Cool+Apps%29 Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning Performance Solutions Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our Instructional Technology Design Blog (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] custom seekBar
Has anybody made the seekBar UI component work when a FLVPlayback goes to full screen mode? Google comes up with a lot of people having the problems, but have not found a solution that works for me. This is the precise problem I'm having: http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?p=706172 I have created a video player that uses the FLVPlayback and video UI components. When I enter fullscreen mode the SeekBar scales up. But the distance covered by the handle does not. Thanks. _ _ _ Erik Mattheis Senior Web Developer Minneapolis T 952 346 6610 C 612 377 2272 Weber Shandwick Advocacy starts here. PRWeek Global Agency Report Card 2009 - Gold Medal Winner The Holmes Report Global Agency of the Year PR News Agency of the Year ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
On 20/04/2010 21:37, Dave Watts wrote: Isn't that kind of thing considered unfair play and penalized by search engines if discovered? It depends on how it's done, exactly. If you have very similar content within Flash and within the alternative HTML you serve, it's not considered cloaking: http://www.cnet.com/8301-13530_1-9748159-28.html In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of similar content can reasonably be applied. Paul Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of similar content can reasonably be applied. Most web applications that I work on, that have HTML interfaces, also have dynamic content. Presumably, you'd have the same dynamic content whether you're delivering it via Flash or AJAX. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
On 20/04/2010 22:51, Dave Watts wrote: In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of similar content can reasonably be applied. Most web applications that I work on, that have HTML interfaces, also have dynamic content. Presumably, you'd have the same dynamic content whether you're delivering it via Flash or AJAX. Not everyone doubles up their websites with two versions, but my main point was that getting at that content would require user interaction and I'm not sure how a google bot can do that. Paul Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Google
google bots follow links. like i said before look at the swfaddress SEO stuff to get started. as long as what google finds at yoursite.com/section/is the same content you deliver in your flash when you go directly to yoursite.com/section/ then there is no foul play going on. it's not doubling up either really, if your flash content is coming from outside flash, when a bot comes to the site you just cut out the flash stuff and give it the content to index. bots could care less about tweens. On 21 April 2010 00:09, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: On 20/04/2010 22:51, Dave Watts wrote: In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of similar content can reasonably be applied. Most web applications that I work on, that have HTML interfaces, also have dynamic content. Presumably, you'd have the same dynamic content whether you're delivering it via Flash or AJAX. Not everyone doubles up their websites with two versions, but my main point was that getting at that content would require user interaction and I'm not sure how a google bot can do that. Paul Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
