RE: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Rick Hassen]

 if you really like Webstorm, some understand it to be a stripped down version 
of phpStorm (both by JetBrains):
http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/



> From: kennethkawam...@gmail.com
> To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools
> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 23:23:53 +0100
> CC: 
> 
> Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(
> 
> Kenneth Kawamoto
> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:
> 
> > There are many better alternatives for professional coding that  
> > include automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS,  
> > grunt, etc. I wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for  
> > building web applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are  
> > many better options out there.
> >
> > Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio  
> > platform:
> > http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
> >
> > Second best (by the same company):
> > http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
> >
> > For just text editor usage, for the most part:
> >
> > http://www.sublimetext.com/
> > http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
> >
> > I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to  
> > a low quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.
> >
> > -j
> >
> >
> > On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto  > > wrote:
> >
> >> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard  
> >> tool, but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:
> >> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
> >> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
> >> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
> >>
> >> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I  
> >> don't like to be laughed at. But I know none.
> >>
> >> Kenneth Kawamoto
> >> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
> >>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that  
> >>> bundles a
> >>> bunch of good programming subreddits:
> >>> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
> >>>
> >>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using  
> >>> Dreamweaver. There
> >>> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using  
> >>> Aptana,
> >>> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am  
> >>> moving
> >>> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely  
> >>> streamlined and
> >>> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been  
> >>> working on an
> >>> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson  >>> >wrote:
> >>>
>  I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get  
>  JavaScript
>  under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
>  development time.
> 
>  Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
>  programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn  
>  world have
>  moved to a Facebook group.
> 
>  Cordially,
> 
>  Kerry Thompson
>  On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"   
>  wrote:
> 
> > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/ 
> > JavaScript. Google
> > reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
>  advantage
> > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good  
> > quality lists
> > like
> > this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's  
> > for
> > JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the  
> > supporting
> > languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill  
> > for a
> > developer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > Bryan Thompson
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Jon Bradley]

Need to step up to IntelliJ for that.


On May 23, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto  wrote:

> Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(
> 
> Kenneth Kawamoto
> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:
> 
>> There are many better alternatives for professional coding that include 
>> automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS, grunt, etc. I 
>> wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for building web 
>> applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are many better options 
>> out there.
>> 
>> Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio platform:
>> http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/
>> 
>> Second best (by the same company):
>> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
>> 
>> For just text editor usage, for the most part:
>> 
>> http://www.sublimetext.com/
>> http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
>> 
>> I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to a low 
>> quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.
>> 
>> -j
>> 
>> 
>> On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard tool, 
>>> but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:
>>> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
>>> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
>>> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I don't 
>>> like to be laughed at. But I know none.
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Kawamoto
>>> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
>>> 
 I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
 subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that bundles a
 bunch of good programming subreddits:
 http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
 
 As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. There
 are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using Aptana,
 which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am moving
 towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely streamlined and
 elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been working on an
 IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson 
 wrote:
 
> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get 
> JavaScript
> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> development time.
> 
> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
> moved to a Facebook group.
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Kerry Thompson
> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
> 
>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
>> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> advantage
>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
>> like
>> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
>> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
>> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
>> developer.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance guys!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bryan Thompson
>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Kenneth Kawamoto]

Webstorm doesn't support PHP :(

Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/




On 23 May 2013, at 17:35, Jon Bradley wrote:

There are many better alternatives for professional coding that  
include automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS,  
grunt, etc. I wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for  
building web applications. Useful for some, certainly, but there are  
many better options out there.


Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio  
platform:

http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

Second best (by the same company):
http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/

For just text editor usage, for the most part:

http://www.sublimetext.com/
http://macrabbit.com/espresso/

I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to  
a low quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.


-j


On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto > wrote:


I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard  
tool, but I actually use it daily, for two reasons:

1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.

Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I  
don't like to be laughed at. But I know none.


Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/



On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:


I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that  
bundles a

bunch of good programming subreddits:
http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5

As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using  
Dreamweaver. There
are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using  
Aptana,
which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am  
moving
towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely  
streamlined and
elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been  
working on an

IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.




On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson >wrote:


I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get  
JavaScript

under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
development time.

Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn  
world have

moved to a Facebook group.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson
On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"   
wrote:


I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/ 
JavaScript. Google

reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take

advantage
of the experience on this list to get some advice on good  
quality lists

like
this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's  
for
JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the  
supporting
languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill  
for a

developer.

Thanks in advance guys!



Bryan Thompson

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Re: [Flashcoders] Projectors...

[Hans Wichman]

Hey Eric,

I recently was wondering about this myself, and found a bug post about it:
https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3363321

Check the attachments on that page, it contains a createprojector.zip 
which might help, or just build an air projector.


best
H

On 23-5-2013 18:54, Eric E. Dolecki wrote:

Has anyone been able to generate a more current AS3 file as a projector?
I'm not talking about AIR or captive runtime, talking about the
old-fashioned projector for Mac? It's just gone from the IDE and the later
players have this greyed out.



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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Kenneth Kawamoto]

Thanks for suggestions gentlemen. I don't think Sublime does jQuery? Jetbrains 
editors look good. Dreamweaver doesn't do SASS well so that's something I will 
definitely like in these editors :)

Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/



On 23 May 2013, at 17:39, Marco Terrinoni wrote:

> Think Sublime Text 2 has a lot of those functions in the packages repo. You
> can also version control via github as well as SVN. 
> 
> Reason I switched from DW was due to the CSS pre-processor packages for SASS
> and LESS, and LiveReload makes authoring css so much easier.
> 
> Tis an amazing text editor, but it's horses for courses really. I still use
> DW to setup sites and configure localhost server settings, but that's about
> it. 
> 
> 
> Marco Terrinoni - Director
> MULARAM  PRODUCTIONS
> web design // animation // illustration
> uk: +44 7876 652 643
> e: ma...@mularam.com  
> w: www.mularam.com 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
> Kawamoto
> Sent: 23 May 2013 17:15
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools
> 
> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard tool,
> but I actually use it daily, for two reasons: 
> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP 2. Built-in
> FTP & SVN client Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
> 
> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I don't
> like to be laughed at. But I know none.
> 
> Kenneth Kawamoto
> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
> 
>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding 
>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that 
>> bundles a bunch of good programming subreddits:
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnpr
>> ogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
>> 
>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. 
>> There are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using 
>> Aptana, which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. 
>> I am moving towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's 
>> extremely streamlined and elegant, and I highly suggest checking it 
>> out. Adobe has been working on an IDE called Brackets that looks pretty
> cool too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson
> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get 
>>> JavaScript under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a 
>>> lot of development time.
>>> 
>>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the 
>>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world 
>>> have moved to a Facebook group.
>>> 
>>> Cordially,
>>> 
>>> Kerry Thompson
>>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>>> 
 I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. 
 Google reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to 
 take
>>> advantage
 of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality 
 lists like this one.  I also would like recommendations for 
 (Windows) IDE's for JavaScript, or general HTML5 development 
 including all the supporting languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that 
 seems a bit of overkill for a developer.
 
 Thanks in advance guys!
 
 
 
 Bryan Thompson
 
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[Flashcoders] Projectors...

[Eric E. Dolecki]

Has anyone been able to generate a more current AS3 file as a projector?
I'm not talking about AIR or captive runtime, talking about the
old-fashioned projector for Mac? It's just gone from the IDE and the later
players have this greyed out.



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RE: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Marco Terrinoni]

Think Sublime Text 2 has a lot of those functions in the packages repo. You
can also version control via github as well as SVN. 

Reason I switched from DW was due to the CSS pre-processor packages for SASS
and LESS, and LiveReload makes authoring css so much easier.

Tis an amazing text editor, but it's horses for courses really. I still use
DW to setup sites and configure localhost server settings, but that's about
it. 


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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Kawamoto
Sent: 23 May 2013 17:15
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard tool,
but I actually use it daily, for two reasons: 
1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP 2. Built-in
FTP & SVN client Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.

Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I don't
like to be laughed at. But I know none.

Kenneth Kawamoto
http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/



On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:

> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding 
> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that 
> bundles a bunch of good programming subreddits:
> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnpr
> ogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
> 
> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. 
> There are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using 
> Aptana, which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. 
> I am moving towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's 
> extremely streamlined and elegant, and I highly suggest checking it 
> out. Adobe has been working on an IDE called Brackets that looks pretty
cool too.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson
wrote:
> 
>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get 
>> JavaScript under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a 
>> lot of development time.
>> 
>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the 
>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world 
>> have moved to a Facebook group.
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> 
>> Kerry Thompson
>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. 
>>> Google reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to 
>>> take
>> advantage
>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality 
>>> lists like this one.  I also would like recommendations for 
>>> (Windows) IDE's for JavaScript, or general HTML5 development 
>>> including all the supporting languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that 
>>> seems a bit of overkill for a developer.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance guys!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bryan Thompson
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Jon Bradley]

There are many better alternatives for professional coding that include 
automated building, unit testing, support for SCSS and LESS, grunt, etc. I 
wouldn't consider Dreamweaver a serious platform for building web applications. 
Useful for some, certainly, but there are many better options out there.

Probably the best for those that aren't vested in the Visual Studio platform:
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

Second best (by the same company):
http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/

For just text editor usage, for the most part:

http://www.sublimetext.com/
http://macrabbit.com/espresso/

I'd personally stay way away from Dreamweaver. It keeps you bound to a low 
quality workflow that's not scalable or efficient.

-j


On May 23, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto  
wrote:

> I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard tool, but 
> I actually use it daily, for two reasons: 
> 1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
> 2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
> Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.
> 
> Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I don't like 
> to be laughed at. But I know none.
> 
> Kenneth Kawamoto
> http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:
> 
>> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
>> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that bundles a
>> bunch of good programming subreddits:
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
>> 
>> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. There
>> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using Aptana,
>> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am moving
>> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely streamlined and
>> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been working on an
>> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
>>> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
>>> development time.
>>> 
>>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
>>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
>>> moved to a Facebook group.
>>> 
>>> Cordially,
>>> 
>>> Kerry Thompson
>>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>>> 
 I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
 reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
>>> advantage
 of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
 like
 this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
 JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
 languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
 developer.
 
 Thanks in advance guys!
 
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Dave Watts]

>> Take it easy, Oren. There is no spam I've seen. It looks like something got
>> corrupted in my reply, but that's hardly spam. I'm posting from a Caribbean
>> island, and there might be some transmission problems-- this is a small,
>> less-visited island.
>
> Isn't TCP supposed to prevent that? It will either fail the transfer or
> correct the error, never let corrupted data pass.

Sure, but TCP isn't an application protocol. SMTP servers can screw up
encodings, content, etc. So, in theory, Kerry could have been using a
local SMTP server that was misconfigured in some way.

That said, this didn't happen here. What happened is Kerry saw the
Hebrew characters in Oren's response, and guessed that something got
screwed up. Those characters are perfectly valid within Oren's
response though.

I may not know much about Flash, but this is more my kind of thing.
Too bad it's completely OT.

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[Kenneth Kawamoto]

I know it's a long tradition to laugh at Dreamweaver as substandard tool, but I 
actually use it daily, for two reasons: 
1. Comprehensive jQuery auto-completion/code-hint as well as PHP
2. Built-in FTP & SVN client
Obviously never touch the WYSIWYG editor.

Please let me know if there are alternative with above equipped. I don't like 
to be laughed at. But I know none.

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On 23 May 2013, at 16:17, James Merrill wrote:

> I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
> subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that bundles a
> bunch of good programming subreddits:
> http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5
> 
> As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. There
> are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using Aptana,
> which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am moving
> towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely streamlined and
> elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been working on an
> IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson 
> wrote:
> 
>> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
>> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
>> development time.
>> 
>> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
>> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
>> moved to a Facebook group.
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> 
>> Kerry Thompson
>> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
>>> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
>> advantage
>>> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
>>> like
>>> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
>>> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
>>> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
>>> developer.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance guys!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Henrik Andersson]

Kerry Thompson skriver:
> Take it easy, Oren. There is no spam I've seen. It looks like something got
> corrupted in my reply, but that's hardly spam. I'm posting from a Caribbean
> island, and there might be some transmission problems-- this is a small,
> less-visited island.

Isn't TCP supposed to prevent that? It will either fail the transfer or
correct the error, never let corrupted data pass.
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[Flashcoders] Figleaf list for Javascript/HTML/CSS or other lists?

[Merrill, Jason]

Does Figleaf have a Javascript/HTML/CSS mailing list like this? I'd love to 
subscribe if there is. Or what lists are there out there for questions? I don't 
mean website forums, I mean e-mail lists - I find those easier to use, more 
accessible. 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Hans Wichman]

tbh he "asked" million of times, but tnx dave ;) one less spammer hehe.

On 23-5-2013 17:51, Dave Watts wrote:

Oren, what's your problem??

Apparently, he was unable to unsubscribe himself and unwilling to ask
for help. I've unsubscribed him.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Dave Watts]

> Oren, what's your problem??

Apparently, he was unable to unsubscribe himself and unwilling to ask
for help. I've unsubscribed him.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Kerry Thompson]

Take it easy, Oren. There is no spam I've seen. It looks like something got
corrupted in my reply, but that's hardly spam. I'm posting from a Caribbean
island, and there might be some transmission problems-- this is a small,
less-visited island.

Be cool, Oren. the closest thing to spam in this thread is your profanity.
On May 23, 2013 11:16 AM, "Oren B."  wrote:

> Enough with the fuckin spam!!!
>
> בתאריך יום חמישי, 23 במאי 2013, Kerry Thompson כתב:
>
> > I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get
> JavaScript
> > under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> > development time.
> >
> > Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> > programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
> > moved to a Facebook group.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Kerry Thompson
> > On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript.
> Google
> > > reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> > advantage
> > > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> > > like
> > > this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> > > JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> > > languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> > > developer.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance guys!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bryan Thompson
> > >
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RE: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Bryan Thompson]

Thanks much Kurt, Kerry, and James.  Just the kind of information I was
looking for.
Oren, what's your problem??

Bryan

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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that bundles a
bunch of good programming subreddits:
http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramm
ing+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5

As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. There
are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using Aptana,
which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am moving
towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely streamlined and
elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been working on an
IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.




On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson
wrote:

> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get 
> JavaScript under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a 
> lot of development time.
>
> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the 
> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world 
> have moved to a Facebook group.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kerry Thompson
> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>
> > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. 
> > Google reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to 
> > take
> advantage
> > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality 
> > lists like this one.  I also would like recommendations for 
> > (Windows) IDE's for JavaScript, or general HTML5 development 
> > including all the supporting languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that 
> > seems a bit of overkill for a developer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > Bryan Thompson
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[James Merrill]

I've been moving to StackOverflow for questions, and Reddit's coding
subreddits for general programming discussion  Here's a URL that bundles a
bunch of good programming subreddits:
http://www.reddit.com/r/webdev+web_design+html+css+programming+learnprogramming+design+ProgrammerHumor+html5

As for an IDE, I would highly discourage you from using Dreamweaver. There
are much better tools that are cheap/free. I am currently using Aptana,
which is Eclipse based and contains tons of helpful features. I am moving
towards using SublimeText as my primary IDE. It's extremely streamlined and
elegant, and I highly suggest checking it out. Adobe has been working on an
IDE called Brackets that looks pretty cool too.




On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Kerry Thompson wrote:

> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> development time.
>
> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
> moved to a Facebook group.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kerry Thompson
> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:
>
> > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
> > reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> advantage
> > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> > like
> > this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> > JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> > languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> > developer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > Bryan Thompson
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Oren B.]

Enough with the fuckin spam!!!

בתאריך יום חמישי, 23 במאי 2013, Kerry Thompson כתב:

> I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
> under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
> development time.
>
> Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
> programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
> moved to a Facebook group.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kerry Thompson
> On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson" >
> wrote:
>
> > I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
> > reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take
> advantage
> > of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> > like
> > this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> > JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> > languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> > developer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > Bryan Thompson
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Kerry Thompson]

I've found Dreamweaver to be a good tool for HTML5. when you get JavaScript
under your belt, take a look at JQuery. it will save you a lot of
development time.

Mailing lists are pretty quiet these days. I don't know where the
programmers congregate, but my colleagues in the French Horn world have
moved to a Facebook group.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson
On May 23, 2013 9:52 AM, "Bryan Thompson"  wrote:

> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take advantage
> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> like
> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> developer.
>
> Thanks in advance guys!
>
>
>
> Bryan Thompson
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Re: [Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Kurt Dommermuth]

I don't know of any lists, but in the link below the guy comments of
development tools.

Over a year old, but still a great read.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/109047477151984864676/posts/CVGJKLMMehs



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Bryan Thompson  wrote:

> I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
> reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take advantage
> of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists
> like
> this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
> JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
> languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
> developer.
>
> Thanks in advance guys!
>
>
>
> Bryan Thompson
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[Flashcoders] Mailing Lists and Tools

[Bryan Thompson]

I know many developers are migrating towards HTML5/CSS/JavaScript. Google
reveals a multitude of results for mailing lists.  I hope to take advantage
of the experience on this list to get some advice on good quality lists like
this one.  I also would like recommendations for (Windows) IDE's for
JavaScript, or general HTML5 development including all the supporting
languages. I have Dreamweaver, but that seems a bit of overkill for a
developer.

Thanks in advance guys!

 

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