Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
gordon was done as a proof of concept javascript substitute for the plugin - http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ - it's rudimentary at the moment but if combined with html5, it shows that it's possible for adobe to start taking different routes around the plugin problem a On 30 April 2010 21:36, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Yes, for the quake game, because it is a multiplayer game that takes a dedicated server, there will always be some setup, but I think that is if you want to display/host the game. Not for actually playing it. But I had not investigated that far. I don't think that their will be that much set-up to display flash. Or there shouldn't be. Karl On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Jer Brand wrote: http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/wiki/BuildingAndRunning On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Well if they can do this.. http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ I am thinking that HTML 5 could run flash without a plugin possibly On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: maybe someone will come up with a way of displaying .swf files within html5 Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
Worked on my iPhone. Karl On May 4, 2010, at 6:20 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: gordon was done as a proof of concept javascript substitute for the plugin - http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ - it's rudimentary at the moment but if combined with html5, it shows that it's possible for adobe to start taking different routes around the plugin problem a On 30 April 2010 21:36, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Yes, for the quake game, because it is a multiplayer game that takes a dedicated server, there will always be some setup, but I think that is if you want to display/host the game. Not for actually playing it. But I had not investigated that far. I don't think that their will be that much set-up to display flash. Or there shouldn't be. Karl On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Jer Brand wrote: http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/wiki/BuildingAndRunning On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Well if they can do this.. http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ I am thinking that HTML 5 could run flash without a plugin possibly On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: maybe someone will come up with a way of displaying .swf files within html5 Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
I believe Adobe's already demonstrated this, as well as bringing in illustrations from Illustrator and PS - google for adobe smart paste to get a video demo. _ _ _ Erik Mattheis Senior Web Developer Minneapolis T 952 346 6610 C 612 377 2272 Weber Shandwick Advocacy starts here. PRWeek Global Agency Report Card 2009 - Gold Medal Winner The Holmes Report Global Agency of the Year PR News Agency of the Year -Original Message- On May 4, 2010, at 6:20 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: gordon was done as a proof of concept javascript substitute for the plugin - http://paulirish.com/work/gordon/demos/ - it's rudimentary at the moment but if combined with html5, it shows that it's possible for adobe to start taking different routes around the plugin problem a On 30 April 2010 21:36, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Yes, for the quake game, because it is a multiplayer game that takes a dedicated server, there will always be some setup, but I think that is if you want to display/host the game. Not for actually playing it. But I had not investigated that far. I don't think that their will be that much set-up to display flash. Or there shouldn't be. Karl On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Jer Brand wrote: http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/wiki/BuildingAndRunning On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: Well if they can do this.. http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ I am thinking that HTML 5 could run flash without a plugin possibly On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: maybe someone will come up with a way of displaying .swf files within html5 Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
As Mike Chambers stated: We will still be shipping the ability to target the iPhone and iPad in Flash CS5. However, we are not currently planning any additional investments in that feature. http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/2010/04/20/on-adobe-flash-cs5-and-iphone-applications/ All the stunning work we see today in Flash was done by designers, not by technology. The same beauty is possible in any platform, just because we are extremely creative. HTML5 is less powerfull than Flash. But it is in the right way. We will see Tweeners and TweenLites done for canvas in no time. Flash guys can amuse with any technology. Just give us some time :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
at sxsw, the adobe guy giving the flash talk was getting pummelled by the audience about flash's absence from the iShiny and his eventual response (so i reliably informed) was 'we make tools' i take this to mean that when the plugin has outlived it's usefulness, they'll already be exporting to the canvas tag or whatever is the natural successor to it. At the moment, the canvas tag can't keep up with flash in terms of performance (and i've no idea about how it deals with interactivity) but eventually it will - maybe then, it'll be within adobe's best interest to roll out flash content to that instead of it's current .swf format. maybe someone will come up with a way of displaying .swf files within html5 (canvas or svg) like the proof of concept javascript engine that came out a little while back best a On 30 April 2010 08:22, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: On 30/04/2010 00:23, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Hello everyone, Your thoughts on this idea.. and this may not be the best way about it, but maybe Adobe could get CS5 or CS6 to be able to utilize/open a base Obj C iPhone app template, retaining the original Obj C base (approved by apple) and let you add your content, then compile the content to work with that approved Apple iPhone template? The developer would just have to work with certain parameters set by the template resources I would think. Then Apple and Adobe can start a playing nicely and start a whole iApp template resource that provided everything for us developers. You could go and sign up as a developer with Apple or Adobe and utilize templates they have that allow you to use CS5 or CS6, whichever is the most current at the time. Adobe gets on iPhone and Apple gets to control the templates to an extent of performance. Not content. Would this be a viable possibility? Or am I just a dreamer.. :) Dreamer. Adobe aren't stupid enough to invest again in a solution that Apple can ditch at a whim. JAT Karl Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:19 AM, Julio Protzek wrote: HTML5 is less powerfull than Flash. But it is in the right way. We will see Tweeners and TweenLites done for canvas in no time. Flash guys can amuse with any technology. Just give us some time :) HTML 5 is s standard for describing content to be rendered in some runtime. It is not something that can be compared to Flash at this time. It may be compared to another specification, say the SWF format. The combination of all browser technologies into one runtime is something that may be compared to Flash, but comparing HTML 5 and Flash is not applicable. Fact remains: There is no way today, or in the foreseeable future, to develop an application using HTML 5, CSS, Javascript or ANY combination of these technologies that can compare interactively or creatively to an application developed with Adobe tools. - j ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
Well if they can do this.. http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ I am thinking that HTML 5 could run flash without a plugin possibly On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: maybe someone will come up with a way of displaying .swf files within html5 Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/wiki/BuildingAndRunning On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote: Well if they can do this.. http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ I am thinking that HTML 5 could run flash without a plugin possibly On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: maybe someone will come up with a way of displaying .swf files within html5 Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
Yes, for the quake game, because it is a multiplayer game that takes a dedicated server, there will always be some setup, but I think that is if you want to display/host the game. Not for actually playing it. But I had not investigated that far. I don't think that their will be that much set-up to display flash. Or there shouldn't be. Karl On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Jer Brand wrote: http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/wiki/BuildingAndRunning On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.comwrote: Well if they can do this.. http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ I am thinking that HTML 5 could run flash without a plugin possibly On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:01 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: maybe someone will come up with a way of displaying .swf files within html5 Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] iPhone viable solutions???
Hello everyone, Your thoughts on this idea.. and this may not be the best way about it, but maybe Adobe could get CS5 or CS6 to be able to utilize/open a base Obj C iPhone app template, retaining the original Obj C base (approved by apple) and let you add your content, then compile the content to work with that approved Apple iPhone template? The developer would just have to work with certain parameters set by the template resources I would think. Then Apple and Adobe can start a playing nicely and start a whole iApp template resource that provided everything for us developers. You could go and sign up as a developer with Apple or Adobe and utilize templates they have that allow you to use CS5 or CS6, whichever is the most current at the time. Adobe gets on iPhone and Apple gets to control the templates to an extent of performance. Not content. Would this be a viable possibility? Or am I just a dreamer.. :) JAT Karl Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
