Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread jimmi
Hey, you should check out HP swfscan, it decompiles everything just
fine(as2 and 3) and it's free.

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote:
 Hi,

   If you can run windows software, check out Burak's ASV - it's definitely
 worth the money and paying users can get access to the latest beta's of the
 AS3 decompiler...

   I find ASV really good for getting the AS code out and SoThink was good
 for rescuing movieclips from SWF's without FLA's...

   Glen

 Gerry Beauregard wrote:

 Thanks Anthony, very useful to know.   BTW, I just noticed that the Mac
 version of SoThink's SWF Decompiler is at version 4.5, whereas the Windows
 version is now at 5.0.   I need v5 to decompile AS3 code for FlashPlayer 10,
 so I'll run the Windows version under VMWare Fusion for now.

 On 2009-05-05  , at 23:40 , Anthony Pace wrote:

 When I have deleted the fla, I only have my swf, and I need to reuse a
 bit of code, sothink has come to the rescue quite a few times; however, I am
 on windows.

 If it has to be a mac, even though it crashes, I think sothink is your
 best bet.


 Gerry Beauregard wrote:

 Does anyone have a recommendation for a good tool for decompiling SWFs
 (and if possible SWCs) written in ActionScript 3?  Must run on MacOS 10.5.
  I was considering buying the SoThink SWF Decompiler for Mac, but
 unfortunately it often crashes when I select an SWF I just built with Flex
 Builder 3, and even when it doesn't crash, the trial version doesn't 
 display
 ActionScript code.

 Incidentally, I have no intention of ripping off anyone else's
 ActionScript code.  Quite the contrary, I'm developing new code, and want 
 to
 see what people using a decompiler would be able to figure out if I don't
 use obfuscation. If I conclude that obfuscation is necessary at all, I'll
 need a decompiler to evaluate obfuscation options...

 -Gerry
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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread Alain Rousseau
If you want to have your MXML back from a SWF than there isn't a tool 
out there that can do that. You will get some Classes but they may not 
reflect the project's structure in the begining. Otherwise only SoThink 
SWF Decompiler can read AS3 based SWFs.


Gordon and Eltima Trillix only decompile up to AS2.

You would have to go with the PC decompilers, and my favourite so far is 
burak's  Action Script Viewer (http://www.buraks.com/asv/)


Hope this helps

Alain

Gerry Beauregard wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good tool for decompiling SWFs 
(and if possible SWCs) written in ActionScript 3?  Must run on MacOS 
10.5.  I was considering buying the SoThink SWF Decompiler for Mac, 
but unfortunately it often crashes when I select an SWF I just built 
with Flex Builder 3, and even when it doesn't crash, the trial version 
doesn't display ActionScript code.


Incidentally, I have no intention of ripping off anyone else's 
ActionScript code.  Quite the contrary, I'm developing new code, and 
want to see what people using a decompiler would be able to figure out 
if I don't use obfuscation. If I conclude that obfuscation is 
necessary at all, I'll need a decompiler to evaluate obfuscation 
options...


-Gerry
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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread Dave Watts
 If you want to have your MXML back from a SWF than there isn't a tool out
 there that can do that. You will get some Classes but they may not reflect
 the project's structure in the begining. Otherwise only SoThink SWF
 Decompiler can read AS3 based SWFs.

There never will be a tool that can give you the MXML, I think. My
understanding is that this gets converted to AS3 prior to compilation.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread Anthony Pace
Why would you want it to?  Why not just learn the AS3? If you know as3, 
you can use what you have learned and apply it to other languages.


SoThink is not the only de-compiler; I just Checked out swfscan, and its 
not bad at all.


Dave Watts wrote:

If you want to have your MXML back from a SWF than there isn't a tool out
there that can do that. You will get some Classes but they may not reflect
the project's structure in the begining. Otherwise only SoThink SWF
Decompiler can read AS3 based SWFs.



There never will be a tool that can give you the MXML, I think. My
understanding is that this gets converted to AS3 prior to compilation.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread Anthony Pace
Oops , I just realized they don't seem to have a Mac version, and that 
was probably what was meant by Sothink is the only option.


Anthony Pace wrote:
Why would you want it to?  Why not just learn the AS3? If you know 
as3, you can use what you have learned and apply it to other languages.


SoThink is not the only de-compiler; I just Checked out swfscan, and 
its not bad at all.


Dave Watts wrote:
If you want to have your MXML back from a SWF than there isn't a 
tool out
there that can do that. You will get some Classes but they may not 
reflect

the project's structure in the begining. Otherwise only SoThink SWF
Decompiler can read AS3 based SWFs.



There never will be a tool that can give you the MXML, I think. My
understanding is that this gets converted to AS3 prior to compilation.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread Dave Watts
 Why would you want it to?  Why not just learn the AS3? If you know as3, you
 can use what you have learned and apply it to other languages.

Well, MXML and AS3 are used for different things in a typical Flex
application. MXML is much better than AS3 for layout manager stuff.
AS3 is much better than MXML for everything else. So a typical Flex
app uses both appropriately. Any Flex programmer will, in fact, know
AS3 because you can't write a useful Flex app with MXML alone. Well,
maybe you could, but I really wouldn't want to try.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread Merrill, Jason
 My understanding is that this gets converted to AS3 prior to
compilation.

This is true.  You could infer some MXML structure based on the AS3
code, but it would be complicated to do.  

. Any Flex programmer will, in fact, know
 AS3 because you can't write a useful Flex app with MXML alone.

This is true as well.  Not that I am a complete pro at Flex, but I have
found you want to know both MXML and Actionscript fairly equally.  On
large projects, I spend more time in Actionscript, but having the MXML
makes life much easier and is important to make use of, MXML can save
you a lot of time and headaches.   I do think there are uses for MXML
that are non-visual though, like setting up a webservice connection,
describing effects (which I guess you could argue is visual, but it not
a layout thing) or even loading XML, but for the most part, I think
you're right.  MXML for the view - what you see, and Actionscript for
most everything else.  You can even write arrays and stuff with MXML but
I've never seen a good reason for that.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-07 Thread Dave Watts
 This is true as well.  Not that I am a complete pro at Flex, but I have
 found you want to know both MXML and Actionscript fairly equally.

And, of course, the class library is the same in either, so if you
know how to invoke something via MXML, you basically know how to
invoke it in AS3 and vice-versa. The basic syntax of both MXML and AS3
can be picked up quite easily by any experienced programmer in a day
or so.

 I do think there are uses for MXML that are non-visual though, like setting 
 up a
 webservice connection, describing effects (which I guess you could argue is
 visual, but it not a layout thing) or even loading XML, but for the most 
 part,
 I think you're right.  MXML for the view - what you see, and Actionscript for
 most everything else.  You can even write arrays and stuff with MXML but
 I've never seen a good reason for that.

Yeah, I generally use MXML for WebService, HTTPService, RemoteObject,
etc, but they're not really part of the view, it's just what I'm used
to. The syntax for doing this just seems to be a bit cleaner to me.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-06 Thread Glen Pike

Hi,

   If you can run windows software, check out Burak's ASV - it's 
definitely worth the money and paying users can get access to the latest 
beta's of the AS3 decompiler...


   I find ASV really good for getting the AS code out and SoThink was 
good for rescuing movieclips from SWF's without FLA's...


   Glen

Gerry Beauregard wrote:
Thanks Anthony, very useful to know.   BTW, I just noticed that the 
Mac version of SoThink's SWF Decompiler is at version 4.5, whereas the 
Windows version is now at 5.0.   I need v5 to decompile AS3 code for 
FlashPlayer 10, so I'll run the Windows version under VMWare Fusion 
for now.


On 2009-05-05  , at 23:40 , Anthony Pace wrote:

When I have deleted the fla, I only have my swf, and I need to reuse 
a bit of code, sothink has come to the rescue quite a few times; 
however, I am on windows.


If it has to be a mac, even though it crashes, I think sothink is 
your best bet.



Gerry Beauregard wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good tool for decompiling 
SWFs (and if possible SWCs) written in ActionScript 3?  Must run on 
MacOS 10.5.  I was considering buying the SoThink SWF Decompiler for 
Mac, but unfortunately it often crashes when I select an SWF I just 
built with Flex Builder 3, and even when it doesn't crash, the trial 
version doesn't display ActionScript code.


Incidentally, I have no intention of ripping off anyone else's 
ActionScript code.  Quite the contrary, I'm developing new code, and 
want to see what people using a decompiler would be able to figure 
out if I don't use obfuscation. If I conclude that obfuscation is 
necessary at all, I'll need a decompiler to evaluate obfuscation 
options...


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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-06 Thread Gerry Beauregard
Thanks Anthony, very useful to know.   BTW, I just noticed that the  
Mac version of SoThink's SWF Decompiler is at version 4.5, whereas the  
Windows version is now at 5.0.   I need v5 to decompile AS3 code for  
FlashPlayer 10, so I'll run the Windows version under VMWare Fusion  
for now.


On 2009-05-05  , at 23:40 , Anthony Pace wrote:

When I have deleted the fla, I only have my swf, and I need to reuse  
a bit of code, sothink has come to the rescue quite a few times;  
however, I am on windows.


If it has to be a mac, even though it crashes, I think sothink is  
your best bet.



Gerry Beauregard wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good tool for decompiling  
SWFs (and if possible SWCs) written in ActionScript 3?  Must run on  
MacOS 10.5.  I was considering buying the SoThink SWF Decompiler  
for Mac, but unfortunately it often crashes when I select an SWF I  
just built with Flex Builder 3, and even when it doesn't crash, the  
trial version doesn't display ActionScript code.


Incidentally, I have no intention of ripping off anyone else's  
ActionScript code.  Quite the contrary, I'm developing new code,  
and want to see what people using a decompiler would be able to  
figure out if I don't use obfuscation. If I conclude that  
obfuscation is necessary at all, I'll need a decompiler to evaluate  
obfuscation options...


-Gerry
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Re: [Flashcoders] Recommendation for AS3 decompiler?

2009-05-05 Thread Anthony Pace
When I have deleted the fla, I only have my swf, and I need to reuse a 
bit of code, sothink has come to the rescue quite a few times; however, 
I am on windows.


If it has to be a mac, even though it crashes, I think sothink is your 
best bet.



Gerry Beauregard wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good tool for decompiling SWFs 
(and if possible SWCs) written in ActionScript 3?  Must run on MacOS 
10.5.  I was considering buying the SoThink SWF Decompiler for Mac, 
but unfortunately it often crashes when I select an SWF I just built 
with Flex Builder 3, and even when it doesn't crash, the trial version 
doesn't display ActionScript code.


Incidentally, I have no intention of ripping off anyone else's 
ActionScript code.  Quite the contrary, I'm developing new code, and 
want to see what people using a decompiler would be able to figure out 
if I don't use obfuscation. If I conclude that obfuscation is 
necessary at all, I'll need a decompiler to evaluate obfuscation 
options...


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