Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

2004-05-10 Thread Al West
On Monday 10 May 2004 13:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 Hi,

 ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

Guess because no posts have been made - it was the weekend afterall and a nice 
sunny one here in the UK at that.

Cheers,
Al

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

2004-05-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:14:11 +0100, Al wrote in message 
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 On Monday 10 May 2004 13:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  Hi,
 
  ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???
 
 Guess because no posts have been made - it was the weekend afterall
 and a nice sunny one here in the UK at that.

..whew.  ;-)   
The weird thing was, the spam too, took the weekend off.  ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

2004-05-10 Thread David Luff


On 5/10/04 at 2:14 PM Al West wrote:

On Monday 10 May 2004 13:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 Hi,

 ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

Guess because no posts have been made - it was the weekend afterall and a
nice 
sunny one here in the UK at that.


Speak for yourself, it was cloudy all weekend in Nottingham, with rain on
Friday and Sunday evenings.

Cheers - Dave


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

2004-05-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
The server was down.

Regards,
Ampere

On May 10, 2004 08:43 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 Hi,

 ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-05-10 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Ampere,

I'm not sure what exactly you changed between your last two mails, but in both 
cases the MD11 model looks pretty good now. I take it that you have not 
modelled the landing gears yet?

About the control surfaces. I'm not exactly sure what the best approach will 
be. I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to aircraft modelling, so I have 
to find out a lot by trial and error. 

I know that some of the other aircraft use ac3d models, which contain named  
surfaces that can be animated by binding these names to internal properties. 
I tried converting your 3ds model to ac3d format. After the conversion I only 
saw name NoName tags, which probably indicates that the names of each 
surface is lost in the conversion, because I did see some names pop up in 
your binary 3ds file. 

So, the two things I don't know yet are:
1). Can we animate a 3ds model?
2). If we need to convert to ac3d format, is there a way to retain the  
original names given to each surface or do we need to manually reinsert them?

Is there somebody on the list who can enlighten us? I tries searching for 
documentation on the FlightGear web pages and at seedwiki.com, but to no 
avail.

Cheers,
Durk

On Saturday 08 May 2004 22:13, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 I have re-exported the model again.  It should be *bug free* now.

 When do you like to have the axis information for the control surfaces?

 Regards,
 Ampere



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] MD-11

2004-05-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
 I'm not sure what exactly you changed between your last two mails, but in
 both cases the MD11 model looks pretty good now. 
I went in to attach everything, then detach everything again so now all the 
object's pivot align at [0,0,-5.96].  It would seem that the code that reads 
3ds files takes the position of the objects relative to their pivot instead 
of the object's true location.  Hence you see things like flaps and engines 
get dislocated.  It would also seem that the code doesn't support the 
mirror function.  So instead of being able to just flip one side to the 
other and call it a day, I have attach everything together, and detach 
everything again.

 I take it that you have 
 not modelled the landing gears yet?
No, not yet.

 About the control surfaces. I'm not exactly sure what the best approach
 will be. I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to aircraft modelling, so I
 have to find out a lot by trial and error.

 I know that some of the other aircraft use ac3d models, which contain named
 surfaces that can be animated by binding these names to internal
 properties. I tried converting your 3ds model to ac3d format. After the
 conversion I only saw name NoName tags, which probably indicates that the
 names of each surface is lost in the conversion, because I did see some
 names pop up in your binary 3ds file.

 So, the two things I don't know yet are:
 1). Can we animate a 3ds model?
 2). If we need to convert to ac3d format, is there a way to retain the
 original names given to each surface or do we need to manually reinsert
 them?
I don't know the answer to these questions myself, as I am also a novice when 
it comes to modding FlightGear.

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[Flightgear-devel] [OT] laptops

2004-05-10 Thread Jim Wilson
I've been asked to recommend a laptop with long battery life for use on long
trans continental airline flights.  The user is word processing/spreadsheet
oriented.

This isn't my cup of tea, as I'm more of a book reader in flight (who doesn't
like carrying crap--even 6 lb computers--around airports).  I am aware of the
technical issues and websites with specs online.  Just hoping for some first
person accounts of actual performance.

Thanks,

Jim


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] laptops

2004-05-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson wrote:

I've been asked to recommend a laptop with long battery life for use on long
trans continental airline flights.  The user is word processing/spreadsheet
oriented.
This isn't my cup of tea, as I'm more of a book reader in flight (who doesn't
like carrying crap--even 6 lb computers--around airports).  I am aware of the
technical issues and websites with specs online.  Just hoping for some first
person accounts of actual performance.
 

Some laptops I've seen  (Dell) allow you to substitute an extra battery 
pack instead of the cd rom drive giving you 2x the normal battery 
life.   That makes a big difference in how long your laptop is useful 
... I've also seen people buy extra batteries and charge them up in 
advance ... more weight to carry but a reasonable option.

Curt.

--
Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt 
HumanFIRST Program  http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/
FlightGear Project  http://www.flightgear.org
Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] laptops

2004-05-10 Thread Giles Robertson
Practically all laptops allow you to buy another battery, so even though
you have to power down the laptop to switch, you don't do too badly.
With that, I can last the 5:30hr journey by train from London to
Edinburgh. (Word processing only. If you want to run FGFS, or compile
it, then you are looking at *much* shorter timescales). Spreadsheet
could be more intensive depending on application.

Giles Robertson.

 -Original Message-
 From: Curtis L. Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10 May 2004 21:03
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] laptops
 
 Jim Wilson wrote:
 
 I've been asked to recommend a laptop with long battery life for use
on
 long
 trans continental airline flights.  The user is word
 processing/spreadsheet
 oriented.
 
 This isn't my cup of tea, as I'm more of a book reader in flight (who
 doesn't
 like carrying crap--even 6 lb computers--around airports).  I am
aware of
 the
 technical issues and websites with specs online.  Just hoping for
some
 first
 person accounts of actual performance.
 
 
 
 Some laptops I've seen  (Dell) allow you to substitute an extra
battery
 pack instead of the cd rom drive giving you 2x the normal battery
 life.   That makes a big difference in how long your laptop is useful
 ... I've also seen people buy extra batteries and charge them up in
 advance ... more weight to carry but a reasonable option.
 
 Curt.
 
 --
 Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt
 HumanFIRST Program  http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/
 FlightGear Project  http://www.flightgear.org
 Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
 
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear news letter

2004-05-10 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 08 May 2004 00:28, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
 For an upcoming newsletter article I am [hopefully] writing an
 introduction to modeling aircraft flight dynamics in YASim.

 For a subsequent issue of the newsletter I think I'd like to walk the
 reader through the process of creating a specific aircraft model in
 YASim.  I have borrowed a POH for a Super King Air 200/200C which gives
 a *ton* of great information for modeling the aircraft's flight
 dynamics, so I think this would make a great candidate for this
 exercise.  (It would be nice to have a few more turboprops in
 flightgear, and the king air is just a really cool design and would be
 good to have anyway.)

 So my question is this.  Are there any 3D modelers out there who would
 be interested in participating in this exercise by creating a (or
 adapting an existing?) 3D model for the King Air 200 and
 animating/texturing it?  I don't know if there is any 3d models from
 MSFS land we could get permission to use/adapt?

 Is there anyone who would like to do a 2D or 3D cockpit?  We have a nice
 2D cockpit for a Beech 99 (which is similar) so that might serve as a
 reasonable starting point.

I would like to take a shot at building a 3D cockpit. I've studied some 
pictures at www.airliners.net and found them to be a valueable source. If 
anyone has, or knows about anything that can be of help, please let me know.

-- 
Roy Vegard Ovesen


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] laptops

2004-05-10 Thread Christian Mayer
Jim Wilson schrieb:

I've been asked to recommend a laptop with long battery life for use on long
trans continental airline flights.  The user is word processing/spreadsheet
oriented.
Get an Centrino based laptop.

Windows is fully supported and Linux is getting there (the WLAN driver 
is in a useable beta stage)

The brand (Acer, Dell, IBM, ...) doesn't really matter. Every major 
player has high quality / high price modells as well as those with a 
smaller price tag (and a not so good quality...)

CU,
Christian
PS: I'm writing this on an Acer Travelmate 800 series laptop - which I'd 
buy again. It's high quality with a very reasonable price tag. And 
performance (even with FlightGear) is great



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] laptops

2004-05-10 Thread Ethan Price

Intel has _just_ realased the Dothan series of mobile processers, so Intel's Centrino technology is great for battery life. They have processers as low as 1 GHz using like only 1.1 voltsI believe, keeping it alive for much longer. And as long as he has a nice videocard (aka Nvidia or ATi 128 mb card) any new processer should be fine for FG. DO NOT get a normal pentium 4, unless the thing has one big a** fan; it WILL overheat VERY quickly. I speak from experience, our 2 GHz p4 laptop will shutdown from heat after 5 min of running FG. Dell andToshiba,should begood quallity-wise, butGateway and HPI've had (many) badexperiences with like defective products, trashy coustomer service, etc...

Hope this helps,
-Ethan
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Jim Wilson schrieb: 
 
I've been asked to recommend a laptop with long battery life for 
use on long 
trans continental airline flights.The user is word 
processing/spreadsheet 
oriented. 
 
Get an Centrino based laptop. 
 
Windows is fully supported and Linux is getting there (the WLAN 
driver is in a useable beta stage) 
 
The brand (Acer, Dell, IBM, ...) doesn't really matter. Every major 
player has high quality / high price modells as well as those with a 
smaller price tag (and a not so good quality...) 
 
CU, 
Christian 
 
PS: I'm writing this on an Acer Travelmate 800 series laptop - which 
I'd buy again. It's high quality with a very reasonable price tag. 
And performance (even with FlightGear) is great 
 
 
 
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[Flightgear-devel] Real-Time Atmospheric Scattering

2004-05-10 Thread Jon Berndt
FYI:

http://www.gamedev.net/columns/hardcore/atmscattering/


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[Flightgear-devel] ..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

2004-05-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi,

..com test; I see no posts in 2 days here???

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