[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear runs cleanly on AMD64 in 64 bit mode
I just noticed that the Debian autobuilder had quietly gone off and made AMD64 packages to run FlightGear 0.9.4 and all its dependencies in 64-bit. I did sudo apt-get install flightgear and fgfs ... and it ran fine. The framerate was just over 1fps, but that's because the laptop has the ATI 9600 chipset so I have to choose between the unaccelerated open source driver or the 32-bit only accelerated closed source driver from ATI. I used the accelerated driver, running in a chroot on a biarch kernel, but ATI's kernel module doesn't compile for 64-bit so I couldn't use it. Just thought you'd like to know ... 8-) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone read polish? Space-Island
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Oliver C. wrote: BTW some days ago i found this website: http://www.space-island.de This website is from a company that offers flight simulator rides on their motion plattform simulators. They use for their B747 Power - Flights programme Flightgear as flight simulator. These screenshots should prove that: http://www.space-island.de/bildergallerie.html Now what i wanted to mention is, they note and thank nearly everyone on their website that helped them putting this project up but they don't mention or thank the flightgear community and developers at all: http://www.space-island.de/partner.html I am not sure but is this behaviour really okay from a GPL perspective? I need to be quick to point out here that the Space Island guys contacted me to let me know what they were doing. I've been delinquent in putting something up on our web site. I think this is a legitimate and interesting use of FlightGear. While you are correct (and it doesn't violate the GPL), a link to the FlightGear site at that parter page would have been nice. Esp. since they seem to rely on out software. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] King Air cockpit progress (and question)
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 01:44, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I've just find this out. Check out the Models/3ds folder in your home directory. There is a mesh of KingAir in there. I'm absolutely sure that I have looket through all the 3ds models at one point, but I must have forgotten that there was a King Air model there. That model is much more detailed than the model I'm currently working on. It has over 31 000 vertices while the one I'm vorking on has about 5 000. I'll continue with the one that I've benn using, and maybe move the cockpit interior into the detailed model when I'm done. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone read polish? Space-Island
Oliver C. schrieb: BTW some days ago i found this website: http://www.space-island.de This website is from a company that offers flight simulator rides on their motion plattform simulators. They use for their B747 Power - Flights programme Flightgear as flight simulator. These screenshots should prove that: http://www.space-island.de/bildergallerie.html Now what i wanted to mention is, they note and thank nearly everyone on their website that helped them putting this project up but they don't mention or thank the flightgear community and developers at all: http://www.space-island.de/partner.html Well, it'd be nice if they'd add us in the credits - but I don't know if they are required to (probably it's enough if they display our splash screen when they start the simulator; probably they wouldn't even need that...) But I wouldn't worry too much. They are in Bielefeld. So they are one of them. As everybody knows there's no Bielefeld. They only want to make us all believe that there is a town called Bielefeld... (To make fun out of conspiracy theories some people in Germany want to make others believe that the town Bielefeld doesn't exist and that they only want us to believe that it does exist... Full history at: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Bielefeld-Verschw%F6rung) CU, Christian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] ..0 and below are valid elevations in FG, no?, was: GlideSlope Errors
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:16:54 -0500, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the GS simply had no valid elevation (i.e. elevation = 0). ..there are airport etc facilities at and below sea level in places like Holland, Death Valley National Park and in Palestine? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear BOF, Boston, June 30, 7pm-9pm
Alex Perry writes: For people who might be in Boston (MA, USA) at the end of June: There will be a FlightGear Birds-Of-a-Feather (BOF) session [1] on Wednesday June 30 2004, 7pm to 9pm ... Hopefully I will be at the BOF Thanks for the headsup ! Norman ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Missing ILS approaches
With Robin's latest database, we've lost nearly all of the ILS approaches in Canada -- the DAFIF has very few Canadian ILS approaches (8 approaches for four airports), but Robin used to have manually-entered copies of many, many more in his database. He seems to have dropped them from this version, as I noticed the other night when I tried an approach into my home airport, CYOW. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone read polish?
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:06:35 -0400, David wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gunnstein Lye wrote: The GPL does not prohibit selling, and does not say anything about how much they can charge, as long as any changes they have made are made available for free (or the cost of the medium and postage). The GPL also contains requirements to make the source code available to customers, and to release the source to any modifications you've made to a distributed version. ..2 easy ways they can do that under the GPL: 0.) include our and their source on the media they sell, and the preferred 1.) put it online somewhere and point us too to the url, so we too can use their good tweaks. Personally, I appreciate the historical importance of the GPL, but I'm not much of a fan now that we have better licenses available. ..bull, any license that has Microsoft wet their pants, is _good_, just go check http://groklaw.net. ;-) ..you've bought too much of ESR's pragmatism on commersialists, it's all about doing the right thing, not because it may appear more or less idealistic, but because it is right thing to do, and, heh, as you can see in Groklaw and in the market place, it turns out to be more profitable in the long run too. ;-) The only real benefit of the GPL these days is for companies who want to make money by dual licensing (since the GPL is too restrictive for many users). ..how? I don't see how the mysql people profits more than they would have going GPL-only. (Except for the 1990-ish pragmatism hook.) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Anyone read polish? Space-Island
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:41:03 -0500, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oliver C. wrote: BTW some days ago i found this website: http://www.space-island.de This website is from a company that offers flight simulator rides on their motion plattform simulators. They use for their B747 Power - Flights programme Flightgear as flight simulator. These screenshots should prove that: http://www.space-island.de/bildergallerie.html Now what i wanted to mention is, they note and thank nearly everyone on their website that helped them putting this project up but they don't mention or thank the flightgear community and developers at all: http://www.space-island.de/partner.html I am not sure but is this behaviour really okay from a GPL perspective? I need to be quick to point out here that the Space Island guys contacted me to let me know what they were doing. I've been delinquent in putting something up on our web site. I think this is a legitimate and interesting use of FlightGear. ..I found no FG DL url, sooo... as long as they don't sell or give away or otherwise distribute FG with their simulator hardware, they will be in compliance, but I'd much rather see them distribute both FG and their cool iron. ;-) ..http://www.space-island.de/si_promo_film.mpg (9.4MB) ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear runs cleanly on AMD64 in 64 bit mode
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:00:44 -0700, Andy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alex Perry wrote: I just noticed that the Debian autobuilder had quietly gone off and made AMD64 packages to run FlightGear 0.9.4 and all its dependencies in 64-bit. I did sudo apt-get install flightgear and fgfs ... and it ran fine. The framerate was just over 1fps, but that's because the laptop has the ATI 9600 chipset so I have to choose between the unaccelerated open source driver or the 32-bit only accelerated closed source ..which laptop and which X? How does 32- and 64-bit glxgears compare, native screen (no resizing), full screen and same as FG? driver from ATI. I used the accelerated driver, running in a chroot on a biarch kernel, but ATI's kernel module doesn't compile for 64-bit so I couldn't use it. ..does ATI know? Heh, you beat me. Just this week I got a new AMD64 laptop (Compaq R3000Z), but haven't gotten around to getting a 64 bit distribution installed yet. ..http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status and tadaaa: http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/sid-amd64-cdrom.iso It has a 64MB Geforce card (an NV17 -- a little old, but fast enough) that runs 32 bit FlightGear quite nicely. ..anyone else on 64-bit iron out there? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Possible bug handling LOC radio.
The changes made a couple of weeks ago to handle the new VOR/DME/LOC/GS database stuff may have introduced a bug. Whilst the cross track error is calculated correctly for VOR/DME radios the cross-track error is wrongly signed for ILS LOCalisers. The corss track error is correctly signed when the aircraft is flying away from the airport. I don't think the faults lies with Navcom.cxx get_nav_cdi_xtrack_error I think the problem is that _nav_target_radial is being calculated 180 degs wrong for LOCalisers. I'll be interested to hear what the panel says. 8-) -- Ed Sirett [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear runs cleanly on AMD64 in 64 bit mode
On Saturday 12 June 2004 01:47 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:00:44 -0700, Andy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alex Perry wrote: I just noticed that the Debian autobuilder had quietly gone off and made AMD64 packages to run FlightGear 0.9.4 and all its dependencies in 64-bit. I did sudo apt-get install flightgear and fgfs ... and it ran fine. ..anyone else on 64-bit iron out there? I have been running FG on ia64 since last Sept. I had a problem (don't remember what) with the deb package but I was able to build the CVS version just fine. A weirdness with joystick, (Saitek X45) had to physically connect to UBS port after modprobe'ing joydev. Richard Harke ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Aviation stuff
I'm starting a haphazard and disorganized collection of aviation stuff at http://www.megginson.com/Aviation/ My latest posting is a convoluted explanation of how cartographers derive the Maximum Elevation Figure (MEF) for VFR charts. If you don't have anything else to do, feel free to take a look. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
