[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash
* Julien Pierru -- Saturday 20 May 2006 07:51: I was using the route manager while flying the tanker, everything was working fine until i opened the select an airport from the list box, then FG hang... Where's the bt? Where's the indication that it was a crash, when you say it only hangs. Where's the indication that it's a route-manager crash, when it actually happened after opening the airport list? m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash
There was no bt as i wasn't running gdb at the time. After hanging for about 5 minutes it ended in a segfault, and the only reason i said it was a route manager crash is because it happened while using it and that was the only non tested component that was running at the time. It might not be the route manager, I should have titled my previous maik differently (i should have known you would have gotten all worked up). I just wanted to report it so that others can try and reproduce it as I didn't have the time at the moment.
RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the binary/Iso ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix? ... treat me as a newbie (to FGlive anyway)... where do I go, what do I click, what do I do? will give all the feedback you need/want/can handle :-D ene From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 03:09:36 +0200 On Sat, 20 May 2006 07:52:48 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Arnt From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 19 May 2006 12:11:49 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: still just the question about multiple AI objects... any help including *RTFM* would be appreciated (hopefully with links) ... I apologise for wasting time, my only excuse is I'm keen :-/ ..keen enough? ;o) Does Pigeon's FGLive CD run on your box? Does the CD FG run? What sort of framerates do you see? No ... I haven't tried because I gather it's based around 09.10 (or atleast 099) both of which won't run on my box. On 098a with raw terrain I can get 40-60 fps...with 3d objects it drops to 20-30fps. ..try it anyway, if it fails on your box, we learn something we can use. ..and, just where you guys hide the framerate display on that launcher thing? (No framerates yet, too busy debugging the boot.) eh? ..the boot failed miserably on my box and I have a few ideas on why, too many Morphix and FG developers on Nvidea's or some such. ;o) So I haven't started playing with FG yet. I did like the glxgears numbers though, over 900fps on a 1xAGP slot driven by a 450MHz AMD K6-2, I usually see about 600, so I'm gonna move some hardware around. ..FGLiveCD boot workaround for ATI etc card users: hit [Esc] and use Grub's text based menu. No, it doesn't cure the first X config. ..what was the benchmark command line again, and, should we change it to automate collection of benchmark data? eh? ..we used to have a wee tarball distro for benchmarking FG. The benchmark command we ran in FGBenchmark-0.0.5: ' fgfs --aircraft=c172r-3d --airport=KSFO \ --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 \ --prop:/sim/fuel-fraction=0.2 \ --enable-fuel-freeze \ --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/enhanced-lighting=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/multi-pass-clouds=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/bump-mapping=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/use-display-list=false \ --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true --disable-intro-music --disable-sound \ --enable-auto-coordination --prop:/controls/gear/brake-parking=1.0 ', parks us in a C172 with a nice framerate display. ..we probably wanna specify and report window size and coloring, and report hardware. And somewhere. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Become a fitness fanatic @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/health --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash
* Julien Pierru -- Saturday 20 May 2006 08:38: There was no bt as i wasn't running gdb at the time. You don't need to run fgfs under gdb to get a bt. Just run gdb on the core dump afterwards: $ gdb `which fgfs` core.fgfs.123456 (gdb) bt the only reason i said it was a route manager crash is because it happened while using it and that was the only non tested component that was running at the time. The route manager is a tested component. It might not be the route manager, I should have titled my previous maik differently (i should have known you would have gotten all worked up). Worked up? I only asked for the details that you should have given in the first place when you identified a particular subsystem as the source of a crash. m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Saturday 20 May 2006 09:10, dene maxwell wrote: Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the binary/Iso ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix? ... treat me as a newbie (to FGlive anyway)... where do I go, what do I click, what do I do? The FGLiveCD is an entire Linux operating system plus FlightGear plus all the drivers needed to run on most hardware on a single CD/DVD. You don't install it. You just boot off the CD/DVD and it runs in RAM. In fact you don't even need to have a hard drive in your system in order to run the CD/DVD. There is no Win32 version and even if it was possible to make a Windows XP live CD (highly doubt it since the Windows kernel and system aren't anywhere as configurable as Linux) it would be illegal. Paul --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-) :-D ene From: Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 09:53:12 +0200 Selon dene maxwell : Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the binary/Iso ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix? ... treat me as a newbie (to FGlive anyway)... where do I go, what do I click, what do I do? will give all the feedback you need/want/can handle Dene, If you download the FGLive image, burn it on a CD and reboot you PC from the CD, you'll be on Linux just because it wouldn't use your harddisk, and hopefully, you'll be able to experience FG 0.9.10 on Linux. That way, you'll know if it's your hardware that is at fault (if it doesn't work), or your drivers on Win98 (if it works). -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Read the latest Hollywood gossip @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/entertainment --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Selon dene maxwell : SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-) Every CD burner software are able to burn a ISO image. EasyCD Creator, Nero, you name it... They all have a menu option Burn an image -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Hi Paul, I refer to my reply to Fred...only too keen to try it...particularly since you've re-assured me that it won't try to install anything on the hard-drive (it's my partners PC) ... I've never burnt an ISO and hope I don't need any *nix knowledge ... I can try it on a P1 166Mhz, 96Mbyte RAM, S3 Trio64V+ and a P4 1.8Ghz, 256M RAM, GeForce2 MX ... feedback will be gladly given :-D ene From: Paul Surgeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 09:55:15 +0200 On Saturday 20 May 2006 09:10, dene maxwell wrote: Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the binary/Iso ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix? ... treat me as a newbie (to FGlive anyway)... where do I go, what do I click, what do I do? The FGLiveCD is an entire Linux operating system plus FlightGear plus all the drivers needed to run on most hardware on a single CD/DVD. You don't install it. You just boot off the CD/DVD and it runs in RAM. In fact you don't even need to have a hard drive in your system in order to run the CD/DVD. There is no Win32 version and even if it was possible to make a Windows XP live CD (highly doubt it since the Windows kernel and system aren't anywhere as configurable as Linux) it would be illegal. Paul --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband @ http://jetstream.xtra.co.nz/chm/0,,202853-1000,00.html --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
What's the URL to the image? From: Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:24:02 +0200 Selon dene maxwell : SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-) Every CD burner software are able to burn a ISO image. EasyCD Creator, Nero, you name it... They all have a menu option Burn an image -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Saturday 20 May 2006 10:03, dene maxwell wrote: SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-) :-D ene Under Windows 98 you'll need some CD burning software that can burn ISO images. If you've bought a CD/DVD writer you normally get some burning software with it. However there is plenty of CD burning software around with trial periods. CloneCD and Nero Burning ROM are two which I have used in the past. Of course if you had a Linux distro like Kubuntu installed you can just right click on an ISO file in Konqueror and select burn with k3b. ;-) Paul --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Selon dene maxwell : What's the URL to the image? It's in the front page of www.flightgear.org : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/FGLive/fglive-0.1-linuxtag.iso or use BitTorrent. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Thanks Fred...that was what I needed...will try to burn it tomorrow morning (20:52 local and our equivalent of the FA cup is on Super 14 Rugby semi-final) ... now what I need is a way to try an AI flight-plan using UFO and the FG command line *--flight-plan=* option ;-) :-D ene From: Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:50:21 +0200 Selon dene maxwell : What's the URL to the image? It's in the front page of www.flightgear.org : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/FGLive/fglive-0.1-linuxtag.iso or use BitTorrent. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Need a new job? Check out XtraMSN Careers http://xtramsn.co.nz/careers --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Icing
I forgot to add some URLs which may be useful for modeling ice in FG. This one ( http://www.auf.asn.au/meteorology/section10.html ) has a nice diagram that shows the ice accretion in mm on a small probe for the air miles flown, in clouds with liquid water content varying from 0.2 g/m³ to 1.5 g/m³. This one ( http://www.ral.ucar.edu/~gthompsn/icing.html ) has photos of icing from some of NASA's experiments. Paul --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Saturday 20 May 2006 03:59 am, dene maxwell wrote: ... now what I need is a way to try an AI flight-plan using UFO and the FG command line *--flight-plan=* option ;-) As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each entry of the scenario file. Dave --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] route manager crash
On Saturday 20 May 2006 06:51, Julien Pierru wrote: I was using the route manager while flying the tanker, everything was working fine until i opened the select an airport from the list box, then FG hang... I haven't tried to reproduce it yet. This was happening here yesterday morning - no usage of the route manager, just trying to move to another airport with the list box was enough to get a segfault. I did have BTs but didn't bother saving them since I was really (supposed to be!) busy with other things and it seemed 100% repeatable. Since I was short of time and there was an easy workaround (i.e. don't use the list box!) I just left it for later... I'll play with it again later on today I hope and let you know what I get. Cheers, AJ --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Hi Dave
so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat
format, relative path etc
I would like to test an AI flight-plan with the UFO so I can track it using
Atlas
cheers
:-D ene
PS 6% of the ISO downloaded.could be a long night...my ISP's cable 'net
is going really slow!!!\
:-{
From: Dave Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim
Object Properties
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 04:09:59 -0500
On Saturday 20 May 2006 03:59 am, dene maxwell wrote:
... now what I need is a way to try an AI flight-plan using UFO and the
FG
command line *--flight-plan=* option ;-)
As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI.
AI
flight plans are defined within each entry of the scenario file.
Dave
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[Flightgear-devel] Air to Air Refuelling Howto
Hi all, Vivian has done quite a bit of work recently improving and extending the air-air refuelling operations in flightgear. Since this is an area of FG which it seems few people ever find or manage to use, we thought some documentation might be in order. Attached then is a brief howto which also documents the great new additions - Air-Air TACAN (operable in MultiPlayer) a new tanker (KA6-D) and an improved flyable version of the KC-135 tanker which can be used for refuelling other aircraft in a MultiPlayer session! Primarily this document refers to the latest CVS, but some of it is also applicable to the original refuelling scenario. The in-flight refuelling stuff is a nice challenge, well worth trying as a test of one's flying skills - and a nice way to practice formation flying, with AI pilots if you're shy, or with other humans online. Cheers, AJ Air-Air Refuelling (AAR) What's possible At present, there are two tanker aircraft (KC135-E and KA6-D) and three receiving aircraft (A4F, Lightning and T38) capable of in-air refuelling. When flying one of these aircraft in the default scenery area, one can locate the tanker aircraft using air-air TACAN and/or radar and then receive a full or partial load of fuel by flying in close formation behind the tanker. Refuelling is also possible between aircraft in a MultiPlayer session. The KC135 is a boom refueller, while the KA6 has a hose. The A4F and Lightning are both fitted with a probe for hose refuelling while the T38 is fitted with a boom receiver. At the moment, either type can refuel from any tanker, but in the future it is likely that the correct type will have to be used. Necessary preparations Like the aircraft carriers, AAR is implemented as an AI scenario. Selecting these normally requires editing the preferences.xml file in the flightgear data directory. There is a shortcut in this case though; simply selecting the Lightning, A4F or T38 should automatically load a scenario containing a tanker, assuming you haven't changed anything in your preferences.xml file. Assuming this is the case, choose one of the aforementioned aircraft, make sure that AI models are enabled and start at KSFO (the default airport.) Depending on the scenario, you might see the tanker crossing overhead when the sim starts; if not, don't worry. In the cockpit Perhaps the first thing to do after starting the engines if necessary is to select the appropriate TACAN channel if your aircraft is so equipped (the A4F and Lightning both are). For the KC135 (by default used by the Lightning and T37) this is currently 040X, and for the KA6D (used by the A4F) it is 050X. Enter this channel using the relevant dropdown boxes in the radios dialogue (from the menus, equipment/radios or press control-r). You should now see the current bearing to the tanker indicated in the nav display of the A4 or the TACAN indicator (green needle) in the Lightning. If the tanker is within range, it will also appear on the radar display of the T38 or Lightning. Take off... In the Air Turn to an appropriate heading, guided by the TACAN bearing (you should try a leading approach to close in on the tanker) and look for the tanker on the radar or nav. screen. Around 5nm away, you should reduce your speed to around 20kts faster than the tanker (these fly at 280 kts TAS) - a slow overtake. The KC135 will be visible from about 10nm, the KA6-D, being smaller, just over 1 nm. You should use airbrakes as necessary to keep control of your speed should you find yourself overshooting. Close to within 50ft of the tanker (don't get too close, or visual artifacts might hide the boom from view). You should see indication in the cockpit that you are receiving fuel - there is a green light in the A4 fuel gauge, and you should see the indicated tank load increase. Getting to this stage is not necessarily easy - it can take a lot of practice. As with carrier landings, this is not an easy manoeuver in real life either and there are additional complications in the sim; the tanker, being an AI model, is unaffected by the wind and flies TAS (True Air Speed), while you are flying IAS (Indicated Air Speed) and are affected by the environment. As in real life, your aircraft will also steadily increase in weight as the tanks fill which will affect the trim of the aircraft. (You might find it helpful to use the autothrottle to help control your speed - ctrl-a then Page Up/Down to increase and decrease the set speed.) Once your tanks are full, or you have taken as much fuel as you wish, close the throttle a little, back away from the tanker and continue your intended flight. More advanced topics Multiplayer Refuelling Refuelling is possible within a MultiPlayer session given certain conditions. A basic flyable KC135 model is available - the pilot of this aircraft should use the callsign MOBIL1, MOBIL2 or MOBIL3. Other numbers are acceptable, but
[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
* dene maxwell -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:27: so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: ksfo koak ebase ak (In cvs you can also use a lon,lat pair, and an optional altitude per waypoint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or -122.234,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) The path should be relative to the fgfs start dir, but it's probably best to use an absolute path.--flight-plan=/tmp/route PS 6% of the ISO downloaded.could be a long night...my ISP's cable 'net is going really slow!!!\ BTW: In one burner app on MS Windows I didn't find any option in the menu for burning ISOs, but when I just used File/Open on an iso file, it did the right thing. :-) m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
* Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:34: a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: ksfo [...] Err ... in 0.9.8 the waypoints need to be in upper case letters: KSFO KOAK ... m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Saturday 20 May 2006 04:27 am, dene maxwell wrote: so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each entry of the scenario file. If it's AI flight plans you are talking about, then you won't be able to assign these using a command line switch. AI flight plans are only specified within scenario files. If you want to use the --flight-plan=* command line switch, then maybe someone here who has used that before can tell you what it does. I think it has something to do with the autopilot. Dave --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper
so the AI flight-plan *.xml format can't be used for *aircraft* flight-plans (ie those specified on the commandline) ?. BUGGER!!! :-)... I suppose that would be too simple :-} but then again nothing worth-while is easy eh? will persevere with what I got... thanks for your comments :-D ene From: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:34:49 +0200 * dene maxwell -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:27: so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: ksfo koak ebase ak (In cvs you can also use a lon,lat pair, and an optional altitude per waypoint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or -122.234,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) The path should be relative to the fgfs start dir, but it's probably best to use an absolute path.--flight-plan=/tmp/route PS 6% of the ISO downloaded.could be a long night...my ISP's cable 'net is going really slow!!!\ BTW: In one burner app on MS Windows I didn't find any option in the menu for burning ISOs, but when I just used File/Open on an iso file, it did the right thing. :-) m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband @ http://jetstream.xtra.co.nz/chm/0,,202853-1000,00.html --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
sorta what I gathered Melchiors reply comfirmed it as I say ..nothing worthwhile is easy... thanks for the reply :-D ene From: Dave Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 04:39:53 -0500 On Saturday 20 May 2006 04:27 am, dene maxwell wrote: so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each entry of the scenario file. If it's AI flight plans you are talking about, then you won't be able to assign these using a command line switch. AI flight plans are only specified within scenario files. If you want to use the --flight-plan=* command line switch, then maybe someone here who has used that before can tell you what it does. I think it has something to do with the autopilot. Dave --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Find the coolest online games @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper
* dene maxwell -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:44: so the AI flight-plan *.xml format can't be used for *aircraft* flight-plans (ie those specified on the commandline) ? Not directly, but this should be easy to convert. But then again, you need fgfs/cvs for altitude support, and without that it wouldn't make a lot of sense. m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper
To all who replied on this...thanks for the support...I realise 098a is strictly not devel material but your help is really appreciated.. ...I always endeavour to return that which is offered... it might not be 100% sometimes but you guys will always get the best I can do... Cheers and thanks again hope you might find the time to fly my *local* when I get the next update out...[FG-Kiwi-Users] :-D ene From: Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:42:11 +0200 * Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:34: a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: ksfo [...] Err ... in 0.9.8 the waypoints need to be in upper case letters: KSFO KOAK ... m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Shop til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/ --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
dene maxwell wrote: OK... I'll give it a go...I get the FGLive url from the archives (if they're behaving) and let you know the results. You could also get the URL from the FlightGear web site :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Dave Culp wrote: As far as I know the --flight-plan=* option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each entry of the scenario file. Yep, that's correct. The --flight-plan option refers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] type flightplan for the user controlled aircraft. Not for the AI. Cheers, Durk --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
I've put together a simple page for FGLive, might be useful for those who's still confused or have no idea what it is... http://pigeond.net/flightgear/fglive.html Pigeon. ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix? ... treat me as a newbie (to FGlive anyway)... where do I go, what do I click, what do I do? will give all the feedback you need/want/can handle --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash
* AJ MacLeod -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:25: just trying to move to another airport with the list box was enough to get a segfault. Yes, this was a bug that I had introduced recently. An airport-list was wrongly interpreted as a list, and so its non-existent update() method called. Fixed. m. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:35:19 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK... I'll give it a go...I get the FGLive url from the archives (if they're behaving) and let you know the results. btw ... i want to test an AI flight-plan using the ufo ..whatever, just try ' fgfs --aircraft=c172r-3d --airport=KSFO \ --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 \ --prop:/sim/fuel-fraction=0.2 \ --enable-fuel-freeze \ --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/enhanced-lighting=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/multi-pass-clouds=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/bump-mapping=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/use-display-list=false \ --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true --disable-intro-music --disable-sound \ --enable-auto-coordination --prop:/controls/gear/brake-parking=1.0 ' ...too. Drop the above command line into a xterm and tell us what it does. , parks us in a C172 with a nice framerate display. ..we probably wanna specify and report window size and coloring, and report hardware. And somewhere. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Sat, 20 May 2006 20:38:43 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Paul, I refer to my reply to Fred...only too keen to try it...particularly since you've re-assured me that it won't try to install anything on the hard-drive (it's my partners PC) ... I've never burnt an ISO and hope I don't need any *nix knowledge ... I can try it on a P1 166Mhz, 96Mbyte RAM, S3 Trio64V+ and a P4 1.8Ghz, 256M RAM, GeForce2 MX ... feedback will be gladly given ..on both, please. I'm curious about your P1's omph. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FG Pilot Model
Hi All, I've created a simple generic pilot model for civilian aircraft, based on Dave Perry's self-portrait/sculpture/model for the PA24-250. It's available as a patch from http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pilot.tar.gz, and it is designed to be placed in the data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d directory. It has the following properties: - Easily added to any A/C - Visibility toggled based on the value of /sim/model/pilot/visible (*) - Motion based on rudder/elevator/aileron positions (though the entire body moves rather than just the head). - Multiple (randomly) configurable skins. Currently there are two of Dave Perry, plus one of myself. To use: - Include the xml file within your model definition - execute the pilot.nas file to select a random skin for the model. (*) I've also got a patch for rendering.xml to allow this to be set:- http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/rendering.xml.diff It would be quite amusing to have a skin from each of the developers (and anyone else who wants to contribute). The .rgb files are fairly self-explanatory - simply paste in a front and two side-shots of your head, and choose a torso and leg colour. Enjoy! -Stuart Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Update to the C-182
Hi All, I've been working on an update to the c182. Improvements over previous version: - Increase in texture resolution and improved textures. Now has a nice blue pin-stripe down the side. - Minor model improvements - pitot tube, wing struts, exhausts, cowl-flaps, re-size of controls. - Addition of pilot model (see other post). Available from http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/c182.tar.gz -Stuart Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch to add ... to menu bar
Anyone else tried it and decided whether this is a good idea or not? I've gotten quite used to it since it's been on my machine ;) I like it - good idea. Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch to add ... to menu bar
--- Melchior FRANZ rote: * Buchanan, Stuart -- Wednesday 26 April 2006 19:46: I've modified the menu bar so that all menu entries that display a dialog box have ... at the end of them, so Load becomes Load... etc. At first I agreed that this would be desirable. It's a standard among GUI applications. But then I applied the patch and the menu felt a bit unfamiliar and weird, so I didn't commit. I don't object, but I cowardly leave the decision to someone else. m. Anyone else tried it and decided whether this is a good idea or not? I've gotten quite used to it since it's been on my machine ;) -Stuart Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG Pilot Model
--- Buchanan, Stuart wrote: Hi All, I've created a simple generic pilot model for civilian aircraft, based on Dave Perry's self-portrait/sculpture/model for the PA24-250. It's available as a patch from http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pilot.tar.gz, and it is designed to be placed in the data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d directory. Melchior pointed out that this was a silly place to put it, so I've moved it to data/Models/Aircraft instead. I've updated both the pilot.tar.gz and c182.tar.gz files appropriately. -Stuart Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] plib libpuaux puaComboBox
For those not following the flightgear-cvslogs list: as plib/cvs finally
removed some widgets that were marked deprecated since a few years, we
switched to the new and recommended replacements (that are in plib
since 1.8.4), for example puComboBox to puaComboBox. After the switch
it turned out that puaComboBox has a bug. A fix for it has been
submitted to the plib-devel list and will most likely be included in
the upcoming 1.8.5 release (which we should depend on for several other
reasons). The bug is: comboboxes aren't updated. For example the TACAN
channel. The channel digits *are* set, you just don't see the effect
in the dialog. Below is a fix for it (upper part, the lower one is for
another bug :-). It's not approved yet, so it may look differently
in 1.8.5, but it's safe to apply, anyway. The good news: there are
yet more bugs in pui/puAux ... ;-)
m.
Index: puAux.h
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RCS file: /cvsroot/plib/plib/src/puAux/puAux.h,v
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.11 puAux.h
--- puAux.h 25 Mar 2006 00:34:08 - 1.11
+++ puAux.h 20 May 2006 19:21:59 -
@@ -269,6 +269,11 @@ public:
void setSize ( int w, int h ) ;
+ void setValue ( float f ) { puValue::setValue ( f ) ; input-setValue ( f )
; }
+ void setValue ( int i ) { puValue::setValue ( i ) ; input-setValue ( i ) ;
}
+ void setValue ( const char *s ) { puValue::setValue ( s ) ; input-setValue
( s ) ; }
+ void setValue ( puValue *pv ) { puValue::setValue ( pv ) ; input-setValue
( pv ) ; }
+
void draw ( int dx, int dy ) ;
int checkHit ( int button, int updown, int x, int y ) ;
int checkKey ( int key, int updown ) ;
@@ -914,8 +919,8 @@ public:
virtual void setSize (int w, int h);
int getNumItems ( void ) const ;
- int getTopItem ( void ) const ;
- void setTopItem ( int item_index );
+ int getTopItem ( void ) const { return _list_box-getTopItem(); }
+ void setTopItem ( int item_index ) { _list_box-setTopItem(item_index); }
};
#endif
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[Flightgear-devel] AAR
Hi, AAR is fun, if a little tricky. These screen shots were taken with an AI tanker. ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre.dyndns.org/fgfs/Screen-shots/KC135-KC135-1.jpg ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre.dyndns.org/fgfs/Screen-shots/KC135-cockpit.jpg The KC135 is AAR capable so a full fuel load was taken. We still have to practice to do this with a MP tanker! Vivian
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Hi, Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 can usually drag 70KB/s out of the 2Mb/s SDSL cable connection but using the link provided it only gets to a little over 20KB/s... consequently downloding a 530MB ISO takes a painful 6.5 hours. When it does complete the download, i end up with a file very much smaller than 530MB. I did try on the P4 and ended up with an 80MB file. When I created a CD using this file it showed 530MB used on the CD but when I booted from it I got the splash screens and got to choose a language before the screen filled with error messages that it couldn't access files... looked very much like a disk corruption. When I downloaded it on the P1, I ended up with a file of only 29MB. Very reluctant to burn another CD with this file and end up with another useless CD. What's this BitTorrent that was mentioned and can/how do I use it? Cheers :-D ene From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:44:30 +0200 On Sat, 20 May 2006 20:38:43 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Paul, I refer to my reply to Fred...only too keen to try it...particularly since you've re-assured me that it won't try to install anything on the hard-drive (it's my partners PC) ... I've never burnt an ISO and hope I don't need any *nix knowledge ... I can try it on a P1 166Mhz, 96Mbyte RAM, S3 Trio64V+ and a P4 1.8Ghz, 256M RAM, GeForce2 MX ... feedback will be gladly given ..on both, please. I'm curious about your P1's omph. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel _ Find the coolest online games @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
Hi From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:39:17 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 can usually drag 70KB/s out of the 2Mb/s SDSL cable connection but using the link provided it only gets to a little over 20KB/s... consequently downloding a 530MB ISO takes a painful 6.5 hours. When ..on Bittorrent or off ftp??? FTP with s/ware firewall disabled (I'm behind a NAT router so not really a big risk) I have just downloaded and installed Bittorrent client... it seems to be going even slower (17KB/s) than FTP ..could also be your Wintendo setups. You might wanna fetch a lightweight distro like http://damnsmalllinux.org/ (50MB for creditcard size cds) and use that to fetch and burn FGLiveCD. Hey Arnt, just an observation I've noticed that alot of *nix users will dis Windows at almost every opportunity but I don't nearly as many Windows users dis'ing *nix... have you noticed this ? nothing meant by it...just an observation ;-) Thanks for your help Regards :-D ene _ Check out the latest video @ http://xtra.co.nz/streaming --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Sun, 21 May 2006 13:09:17 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:39:17 +1200, dene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 can usually drag 70KB/s out of the 2Mb/s SDSL cable connection but using the link provided it only gets to a little over 20KB/s... consequently downloding a 530MB ISO takes a painful 6.5 hours. When ..on Bittorrent or off ftp??? FTP with s/ware firewall disabled (I'm behind a NAT router so not really a big risk) ..passive or active ftp? I have just downloaded and installed Bittorrent client... it seems to be going even slower (17KB/s) than FTP ..aouch. ..could also be your Wintendo setups. You might wanna fetch a lightweight distro like http://damnsmalllinux.org/ (50MB for creditcard size cds) and use that to fetch and burn FGLiveCD. Hey Arnt, just an observation I've noticed that alot of *nix users will dis Windows at almost every opportunity but I don't nearly as many Windows users dis'ing *nix... have you noticed this ? ..dis? I thought I was being nice... ;o) nothing meant by it...just an observation ;-) ..a meaningful observation to do: Pick one of the http links off http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html and tell us how it downloads speedwise. ..then try 'wget -c http://80.239.32.253/fgl/fglive-0.1-linuxtag.md5' and *iso and advice me when you're done so I can yank it down, it's buggy and will be replaced. ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: ' fgfs --aircraft=c172p --airport=KSFO \ --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 \ --prop:/sim/fuel-fraction=0.2 \ --enable-fuel-freeze \ --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/enhanced-lighting=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/multi-pass-clouds=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/bump-mapping=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/use-display-list=false \ --disable-intro-music \ --disable-sound \ --enable-auto-coordination \ --prop:/controls/gear/brake-parking=1.0 \ --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true ', but --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true fails, so I need to re-enable it from the menu. Bug? Running off FGLivecd I get 3fps, same box with a _bloated_ junk install and running KDE-3.5.2-2, I get 1 to 2. ..the benchmark command we ran in FGBenchmark-0.0.5: ' fgfs --aircraft=c172r-3d --airport=KSFO \ --start-date-lat=2002:04:11:11:11:11 \ --prop:/sim/fuel-fraction=0.2 \ --enable-fuel-freeze \ --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/enhanced-lighting=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/multi-pass-clouds=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/bump-mapping=false \ --prop:/sim/rendering/use-display-list=false \ --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true --disable-intro-music --disable-sound \ --enable-auto-coordination --prop:/controls/gear/brake-parking=1.0 ', used to park us in a C172 with a nice framerate display. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties
On Sun, 21 May 2006 05:43:11 +0200, Arnt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: ' fgfs --aircraft=c172p --airport=KSFO \ ..snip. --prop:/controls/gear/brake-parking=1.0 \ --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true ', ..weird, now it appears to work right off the commandline, you will wanna verify this, guys. but --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true fails, so I need to re-enable it from the menu. Bug? Running off FGLivecd I get 3fps, same box with a _bloated_ junk install and running KDE-3.5.2-2, I get 1 to 2. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
