Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca II updated

2006-06-04 Thread Torsten Dreyer
 Very nice! Can you fix this link though? I get a 403 error.
 http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/SenecaII.dcm
fixed - sorry.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-04 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Josh Babcock schrieb:
 AJ MacLeod wrote:
 
 My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off 
 with the parking brake engaged.  There are few things more irritating than 
 having the fg screen fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier 
 deck or into the nearest windsock!
 
 
 Hmm, rather than force everyone to start with the P-brake engaged, why
 don't you just set it in your preferences.xml file? This is the sort of
 thing that really has nothing to to with the aircraft, and everything to
 do with the procedures that an individual pilot likes to follow.
 
 I always find it irritating when an aircraft designer thinks that they
 know better how I want to operate in my little world than I do.
 
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Hi,
I really did a lot of Harrier flights as I am a vertical flight fan.
And so I have to state that AJ is right as you *always* have some 
horizontal forces when starting FG/Harrier and it is *very* annoying to 
move off your position if space is somehow limited (ship, special 
terrain) *although* I am with my fingers on SHIFT/b immediately and fast 
(I think at least).

Ok, I solved this *for me* with starting FG with 
--prop:controls/gear/brake-parking[0]=1 but this is not a good general 
solution for other FG users not familiar with the property system.

The Harrier in this stage of development is a nice add-on but very 
difficult and strange to handle due to the actual flightmodel, that is a 
pity. But it is as difficult to develop like the helicopter flightmodel, 
I think.
The newer versions of the Harrier have an artificial stability system 
which makes it a lot more easier to fly the aircraft in low speed 
procedures - may be the force is with us and we'll see something like 
that in FG some day :-)

Regards
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property Browser: old dog, new tricks

2006-06-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Arnt Karlsen -- Sunday 04 June 2006 04:07:
 On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 01:53:14 +0200, Melchior wrote in message 
[list widget scrolling through mouse scroll wheel]
  Would certainly be nice, but it has to be done in plib. By someone
  who has the hardware to test it.
 
 I have such hw and can test those, and 2 more, 3 button rodent 
 with a 2 axis stick for 2 axis scrolling. Pointers?  

  http://sf.net/projects/plib/

m.


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[Flightgear-devel] Lee Elliot-CompterSwift

2006-06-04 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Lee,
I have some questions regarding the ComperSwift;

I would like to use it in the FGLive-KOSH CD being put together by Arnt... i 
know under GPL I don't have to ask for permission but would like your 
comment... particularly as I'm missing one important figure - cruise speed 
:-)...  I don't really have time to download/install and get familiar with 
the aircraft as it will be used in an AI scenario and just need to know the 
basic flight parameters/performance figures

I have the J3, 172P  C28-161 as low speed(90knt comfortable)aircraft for 
the standard NOTAM approaches and there  are heaps of 140knt+ aircraft to 
choose from (AIR New Zealand 737 ;-)...but need 5 low speed civilian 
aircraft.

The Rascal110 also looks a good candidate to fill the fifth spot :...similar 
figures would be required for that too...

if you would prefer to take this off list please feel free to mail be 
direct..

TIA
:-D ene

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tides in FlightGear?

2006-06-04 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Doege wrote:

 So apparently Inkscape (or its developers) are not to blame here, it is the
 FreeBSD 6.0 virtual memory subsystem that seems to be a little wonky to say
 the least.

Well, I'd be careful with such assumptions. You're correct in that
FreeBSD-6.0 is not recommended for heavy-load production use (say FTP
service with 3k simultaneous connections, I don't know if
'ftp.cdrom.com' still exists).
Still you can assume that it eaily handles 1 GByte of RAM and more. My
bet is that the port of Inkscape to FreeBSD probably doesn't match the
operating system close enough. My experience is that you often have to
deal with Linuxisms in OpenSource software which probably show obscure
behaviour on Unixes.

Cheers,
Martin.
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[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: SimGear

2006-06-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d


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[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear source

2006-06-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006-05-30_17:21:50 (frohlich)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/ATC/tower.cxx

From Olaf Flebbe: avoid iterator overruns if we delete the last list entry.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006-05-31_07:20:10 (fredb)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Main/fg_init.cxx
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Main/options.cxx

Mask error message 'Failed to find runway 28R at ...' when no runway is 
requested in the command line


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006-06-01_21:13:56 (curt)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/utils/GPSsmooth/MIDG-II.cxx

Fix a dumb bug where I inadvertantly did a computation in int32 land causing
me to loose 2 decimal places in my location data before converting to lon/lat.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006-06-03_11:20:19 (mfranz)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/GUI/property_list.cxx
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/GUI/property_list.hxx

- display of SGPropertyNode flags can now be toggled per property-list
  widget (Ctrl-click on . entry), so we don't need a global property
  for this
- s/dotFiles/_dot_files/ for consistency reasons


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[Flightgear-devel] Weekly CVS Changelog Summary: FlightGear data

2006-06-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
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2006-05-28_22:25:03 (vmmeazza)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/aar.nas

Small improvements to the 2d display. Make the nav-display switchable with the 
EICAS display. Add more range selections. Implement the nav-display in Nasal in 
stead of XML.


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2006-05-28_22:25:25 (vmmeazza)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Panels/737-ifr-panel.xml

Small improvements to the 2d display. Make the nav-display switchable with the 
EICAS display. Add more range selections. Implement the nav-display in Nasal in 
stead of XML.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2006-05-28_22:26:28 (vmmeazza)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/737-300/Instruments/Textures/Attic/du-knob.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/737-300/Instruments/Textures/du-panel.rgb

Small improvements to the 2d display. Make the nav-display switchable with the 
EICAS display. Add more range selections. Implement the nav-display in Nasal in 
stead of XML.


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2006-05-28_22:28:42 (vmmeazza)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/737-engines.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/737-flaps.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/737-gear.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/EADI.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/auto-brake.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/autopilot-panel.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/clock.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/du-panel-rh.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/du-panel.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/eicas.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/flap-guage.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/fuel-quantity.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/gear-handle.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/gear-lights.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/le-flap-lights.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/le-flap-lights1.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/master-caution.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Attic/pfd1-alt.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/pfd1.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/pfd2.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/ptorst-panel.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/radiopanel.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/standby-ah.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/standby-combo.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/standby-vor-adf.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/weather-radar.xml
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/wxradar.xml

Small improvements to the 2d display. Make the nav-display switchable with the 
EICAS display. Add more range selections. Implement the nav-display in Nasal in 
stead of XML.


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2006-05-29_08:23:06 (vmmeazza)
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/737-engines.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/737-flaps.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/adihsi.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/ah-face1.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/ah-face2.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/ah-face3.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/ah-face4.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/asi-face.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/asi-needle.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/auto-brake.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/auto-throttle-arm.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/autopilot-pnl.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/autopilot-sw.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/blank-256x256.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/clock.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/compass-face.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/du-knob.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/du-panel-rh.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/du-panel.rgb
/var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/KC135/Instruments/Textures/eadi_ladder.rgb

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google earth mapping for fgfs scenery

2006-06-04 Thread Josh Babcock
Pigeon wrote:

 Currently they do not allow any non-web application use the google
 map data/images. Not sure about google earth but i imagine similar terms


So what you are saying is that we need to re-implement fg in javascript?

Josh


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google earth mapping for fgfs scenery

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday 04 June 2006 15:59, Josh Babcock wrote:
 Pigeon wrote:
  Currently they do not allow any non-web application use the google
  map data/images. Not sure about google earth but i imagine similar terms

 So what you are saying is that we need to re-implement fg in javascript?

 Josh


If we were able to write FG so that it ran inside a web browser and we kept it 
free then it shouldn't be a problem.

However if you take the imagery out of a web browser or out of Google Earth 
and use it in another app you'll have some nasty men knocking on your door 
pretty quickly.
Some governments have actually banned the use of Google Maps and Google Earth 
for use in their departments due to the licensing.

NASA World Wind may not have as up to date data or as much high-res data but 
at least you won't be taken to the cleaners if you use it in other 
applications.

Paul


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google earth mapping for fgfs scenery

2006-06-04 Thread GWMobile
Heh, there's an idea :-)
If it was getting live updates from the web would that count as a web 
application?what about running on a webserver on your own machines in 
java?

On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:38 am, Josh Babcock wrote:
 Pigeon wrote:

  Currently they do not allow any non-web application use the google
  map data/images. Not sure about google earth but i imagine similar 
 terms


 So what you are saying is that we need to re-implement fg in 
 javascript?

 Josh


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[Flightgear-devel] Boeing 777-200

2006-06-04 Thread Justin Smithies
Hi all 
 Curtis has just uploaded mine  Syd Adams new 777-200 model to the FG 
d/l section.
It has cabin lights switchable , logo lights and strobes / landing gear.
3d cockpit , although the AP requires some work, so if anyone can tweek the AP 
to work correctly we would be very gratefull ;)
We are still adding other instruments etc so its a work in progress project.

Fell free to test it out and give us your comments.

The D/L section on the FG site will contain daily updates from our cvs .

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google earth mapping for fgfs scenery

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday 04 June 2006 17:09, GWMobile wrote:
 Heh, there's an idea :-)
 If it was getting live updates from the web would that count as a web
 application?

That would be a web application but it's not a web browser!

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[Flightgear-devel] OT [OT] First flight lesson

2006-06-04 Thread Alex Perry
From: GWMobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 A steep sideslip approach with full flaps is the most fun you can safely 
 have in a cessna!

Take a look at what the US commercial pilot emergency descent maneuver is.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Boeing 777-200

2006-06-04 Thread Vivian Meazza
Justin Smithies

 
 Hi all
  Curtis has just uploaded mine  Syd Adams new 777-200 model to
 the FG
 d/l section.
 It has cabin lights switchable , logo lights and strobes / landing gear.
 3d cockpit , although the AP requires some work, so if anyone can tweek
 the AP
 to work correctly we would be very gratefull ;)
 We are still adding other instruments etc so its a work in progress
 project.
 
 Fell free to test it out and give us your comments.
 
 The D/L section on the FG site will contain daily updates from our cvs .
 

I uploaded a revised AP for the KC135 yesterday - it works well enough for
that ac - feel free to use it.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT [OT] First flight lesson

2006-06-04 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi,

Alex Perry schrieb:
 From: GWMobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
A steep sideslip approach with full flaps is the most fun you can safely 
have in a cessna!
 
 
 Take a look at what the US commercial pilot emergency descent maneuver is.
 8-)

Heh! I don't want to look like a sissy for not appreciating the fun in a 
sideslip, so just let me say: For me it takes a bit to get used to it. 
;-) It was just unexpected to me that it felt like a heavily 
uncoordinated curve, just without the increased downward force during 
the maneuver.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property Browser: old dog, new tricks

2006-06-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 10:20:29 +0200, Melchior wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 * Arnt Karlsen -- Sunday 04 June 2006 04:07:
  On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 01:53:14 +0200, Melchior wrote in message 
 [list widget scrolling through mouse scroll wheel]
   Would certainly be nice, but it has to be done in plib. By someone
   who has the hardware to test it.
  
  I have such hw and can test those, and 2 more, 3 button rodent 
  with a 2 axis stick for 2 axis scrolling. Pointers?  
 
   http://sf.net/projects/plib/

..ah, not that high on your todo list.  ;o)
After TerrorGear, then.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Property Browser: old dog, new tricks

2006-06-04 Thread Josh Babcock
Melchior FRANZ wrote:

 
 It would be on my TODO list right after buying a scroll wheel mouse,
 if that was on my TODO list. Which it isn't.  :-]
 
 m.

Do you accept small gifts?

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[Flightgear-devel] Some question about panels and a big thank you

2006-06-04 Thread flying.toaster
As some may have noticed ;) I am working on developping a Sukhoi-26 for 
flightgear.
Before proceeding with flight model tweaking, I am working on a 3D cockpit.
So far I have settled for a mix of 3D model and 2D panel (such as the one found 
on the great concorde)
I was wondering if there is a means to have a 3D object come in front of the 2D 
panel (namely bezels) ?
If the answer is no I may either try to have the dial textures smaller so that 
they fit inside the 3D bezels or go for full 3D instruments (not that many on 
this aircraft)

 The big thank you is for the development team of FG and JSBSim.

 I have been messing around with this little bird and it is a joy to be able to 
perform flat spins, tailslides ... Actually I have not seen a sim capable of 
such goodies eversince the first flight unlimited ! Yeah Flanker series can do 
all that, but the developpers admitted it was all scripted manoeuvres. I could 
do all this with the stock model from Aeromatic !!!

FG rules.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some question about panels and a big thank you

2006-06-04 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Here's just a little reminder that you might want to try the new (*very*
new, in fact) JSBSim Commander, which is in early beta stage, but is usable.
That might be helpful in editing your aircraft model. JSBSim Commander has
gotten a great start with a lot of hard work by Matthew Gong. See the
project page at http://jsbsimcommander.sf.net.


Jon

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 flying.toaster
 Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:42 PM
 To: FlightGear developers discussions
 Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Some question about panels and a big thank
 you


 As some may have noticed ;) I am working on developping a
 Sukhoi-26 for flightgear.
 Before proceeding with flight model tweaking, I am working on a
 3D cockpit.
 So far I have settled for a mix of 3D model and 2D panel (such as
 the one found on the great concorde)
 I was wondering if there is a means to have a 3D object come in
 front of the 2D panel (namely bezels) ?
 If the answer is no I may either try to have the dial textures
 smaller so that they fit inside the 3D bezels or go for full 3D
 instruments (not that many on this aircraft)

  The big thank you is for the development team of FG and JSBSim.

  I have been messing around with this little bird and it is a joy
 to be able to perform flat spins, tailslides ... Actually I have
 not seen a sim capable of such goodies eversince the first flight
 unlimited ! Yeah Flanker series can do all that, but the
 developpers admitted it was all scripted manoeuvres. I could do
 all this with the stock model from Aeromatic !!!

 FG rules.



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