[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] TrafficMgr: remove ~5M of unnecessary heap churn during startup
---
src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx |4 +---
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx b/src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx
index 44e8567..d4f20b3 100644
--- a/src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx
+++ b/src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx
@@ -674,9 +674,7 @@ void FGTrafficManager::endElement(const char *name)
void FGTrafficManager::data(const char *s, int len)
{
-string token = string(s, len);
-//cout Character data string(s,len) endl;
-elementValueStack.back() += token;
+elementValueStack.back().append(s, len);
}
void FGTrafficManager::pi(const char *target, const char *data)
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice autorisations
All people need to know that 60% (or more... it's approximate) of aircraft available for flightgear are created by helijah. More than 80% of them are totaly crappy ! They aren't a good point for FlightGear project ! I think you're mistaking Flightgear for a commercial project here. Sure, in an ideal world, people would make very realistic aircraft models, combine them with well-researched FDMs and then use all the available technology to model systems. Problem is, very few people combine all these skills (I for instance am not a 3d modeller - while I can see myself coming up with an FDM, I can't see myself do a cockpit). This is where the beauty of open source and a repository comes in - someone can make an aircraft model and commit that without doing much FDM work. It now belongs to the project under GPL. I can use the model in an AI scenario. Someone else can simplify the model and use it to populate an airport with parked aircraft. Yet someone else can pick it up and make an FDM for it. Which we couldn't if it wouldn't have been created and released before. There is no real problem if unfinished work appears in the devel version of Flightgear - that's part of what it's for. I have, on occasion, even asked aircraft modellers if I could have their unfinished work, because I was interested but it wasn't on GIT yet. If you want to blame someone, you have to blame the people who made the decision to make all aircraft in the repository available to the end user as well. But that point has been made a while ago, it has led to discussions about a formalized rating scheme for aircraft, that scheme exists and is being implemented, more and more aircraft are rated, so now the end user is getting a fair chance of knowing in advance if the aircraft he is about to try is finished work or not. Imagines a man who don't know FlightGear project : he test 1, 2 ,3 aircrafts by helijah then he says pfff all these aircraft are unusable. I leave FlightGear and I go buy MSFS ! *shrugs* I would assume that the average user is capable of some rational thought. The FG base package comes with hand-picked aircraft, so on your first contact with FG you learn how well they can be made. From there, it's a realization that in open source not every work is equally well done, and a quest looking for the aircraft you like. Which the rating scheme makes a lot easier now. I'm really convinced the work made by helijah is bad for FlightGear project. Aircrafts created by helijah aren't realist. So he's a 3d modeller, not an FDM specialist - so what? Does that mean that 3d models are worthless for the project because of that? It will be good if FlightGear community take conscious of this ! Do you honestly believe that you're the only one who has realized that there's unfinished work in the repository? I mean, seriously? Please, seriously change your perspective in this discussion. Things may have their use even if you can't see that - just try go looking for it then. Cheers, * Thorsten -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice autorisations
On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 12:00 +0200, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: Which the rating scheme makes a lot easier now. This makes me think that it may be a nice idea to have the top 10 of best rated aircraft available somewhere as an add-on to the base package. Or something like that. Erik -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] TrafficMgr: remove ~5M of unnecessary
Hi Chris, Chris Forbes wrote: --- src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx |4 +--- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) Would you consider cloning the repository and filing merge-requests on Gitorious ? That's much easier to track - and it preserves your name as the author of the fix. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 70, Issue 11
I never refused improvements (Long Ez, Velocity XL, Carreidas 160, B25, A26 Invader, I16, UH 1, etc. ) So stop slandering without knowing. Which isn't true. You refused my improvement to the Velocity XL due to personal reasons, and you refused the contribution by another person due to missing respect. And there has been some more examples in the past! Read from here: --http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=8287p=81558hilit=Velocity+XL#p81602 You had to be remebered by several people how OpenSource and GNU GPL is working! Disease, memory loss, madness, desire to hurt or something other I do not know lol And that's exactly the behavior which created the mess! STOP INSULTING PEOPLE FOR JUST HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION! still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] SchedFlight: make comparison inlinable
Reduces the perf impact of FGAISchedule::findAvailableFlight()
---
src/Traffic/SchedFlight.cxx |5 -
src/Traffic/SchedFlight.hxx |5 -
2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
diff --git a/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.cxx b/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.cxx
index 5339a29..1b8586f 100644
--- a/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.cxx
+++ b/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.cxx
@@ -289,8 +289,3 @@ bool FGScheduledFlight::initializeAirports()
return true;
}
-
-bool compareScheduledFlights(FGScheduledFlight *a, FGScheduledFlight *b)
-{
- return (*a) (*b);
-};
diff --git a/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.hxx b/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.hxx
index 0567102..c95f41d 100644
--- a/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.hxx
+++ b/src/Traffic/SchedFlight.hxx
@@ -121,7 +121,10 @@ typedef vectorFGScheduledFlight*::iterator
FGScheduledFlightVecIterator;
typedef std::map std::string, FGScheduledFlightVec FGScheduledFlightMap;
-bool compareScheduledFlights(FGScheduledFlight *a, FGScheduledFlight *b);
+static inline bool compareScheduledFlights(FGScheduledFlight *a,
FGScheduledFlight *b)
+{
+ return (*a) (*b);
+}
#endif
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] TrafficMgr: remove ~5M of unnecessary
Martin, Is it acceptable to send merge requests with a git URL for a server elsewhere, or must it be on gitorious? -- Chris On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Hi Chris, Chris Forbes wrote: --- src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx | 4 +--- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) Would you consider cloning the repository and filing merge-requests on Gitorious ? That's much easier to track - and it preserves your name as the author of the fix. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice autorisations
All people need to know that 60% (or more... it's approximate) of aircraft available for flightgear are created by helijah. More than 80% of them are totaly crappy ! They aren't a good point for FlightGear project ! vs. If you want to blame someone, you have to blame the people who made the decision to make all aircraft in the repository available to the end user as well. But that point has been made a while ago, it has led to discussions about a formalized rating scheme for aircraft, that scheme exists and is being implemented, more and more aircraft are rated, so now the end user is getting a fair chance of knowing in advance if the aircraft he is about to try is finished work or not. I stumbled some time ago about a review of FGFS. As this time about 50% of all aircraft downloadble was by Mr. Baranger. The reviewer indeed managed to test only the aircraft by Mr. Baranger, and the review result wasn't very good...(unfortunately I don't find it anymore between the many FlightPro...xxx o Google.) I agree that OpenSource allows to add unfinished aircraft and that it can be a Plus for OpenSource. But that doesn't mean that you automatically have to do this! It can be also a Minus as it seems for me as our system has been abused here, and yes, the fact that all aircraft are downloadable without any sign of their state may FGFS let look bad! But I haven't heard yet, that the Download page will show the rating! Is there something coming now with FGFS 2.6.0?? But exactly this was one reason when I started the discussion about Aircraft status in the forum. *shrugs* I would assume that the average user is capable of some rational thought. The FG base package comes with hand-picked aircraft, so on your first contact with FG you learn how well they can be made. From there, it's a realization that in open source not every work is equally well done, and a quest looking for the aircraft you like. We are cross-platform, and as there are many people out there using Mac or Windows, they aren't in OpenSource as you or others here are. As a new user of FGFS, heard how realistic FGFS is and how better than MSFS, I would feel cheated if I see a very nice aircraft exterior on the Thumbnail, but when I use the aircraft I don't see any instruments, and the flight behavior being completely unrealistic. It will be good if FlightGear community take conscious of this ! Do you honestly believe that you're the only one who has realized that there's unfinished work in the repository? I mean, seriously? Seems to be a language barrier here- he doesn't meant to take conscious of unfinished work, but the effect of currently about 200 (!) unfinished and mostly unusuable aircraft. We can't say that we are realistic but providing more than 60% of unrealistic/unusable aircraft. And again: and of those aircraft about 5-10 are suffering from serious licence issues! Please, seriously change your perspective in this discussion. Things may have their use even if you can't see that - just try go looking for it then. And please, please, read this here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=28840950 The fact that we have now 3 different threads about the same topics: DC3, licence violation and cooperation in an OpenSource project, makes it difficult to see where the real problems are. Or better described by David: It's fabulous how one could make a mess, in an almost untracable way if you don't follow the mess in live time. It's easy to mix up conversations in different posts to cross the comments to make the story in your favour and make it non understandable by creating holes into the discussions for those who didn't followed. A good example is this thread on the devlist which is finally split into different posts! There's one that is seriously skilled and have nice techniques! I take note of them. still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] TrafficMgr: remove ~5M of unnecessary
On 17 Feb 2012, at 10:23, Martin Spott wrote: Chris Forbes wrote: --- src/Traffic/TrafficMgr.cxx |4 +--- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) Would you consider cloning the repository and filing merge-requests on Gitorious ? That's much easier to track - and it preserves your name as the author of the fix. Just wanted to add, cleanup-patches are more than welcome, but for a large batch of them in one area, it'd be best to ping the maintainer of the code - Durk in this case - to get some feedback on the best way to manage them. Thanks for the contributions, James -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice autorisations
Heiko Schulz wrote: I agree that OpenSource allows to add unfinished aircraft and that it can be a Plus for OpenSource. But that doesn't mean that you automatically have to do this! No, there's no written law that you have to do it. But's it's the well-known recpe behind the success of OpenSource - also known as Release early, release often. Therefore I'd recommend to continue applying this rule @ FlightGear. We are cross-platform, and as there are many people out there using Mac or Windows, they aren't in OpenSource as you or others here are. I think we should remind ourselves that FlightGear development is being carried on mostly by developers, not by users. If you'd like to impose the requirement to follow almost every (sometimes pretty braindead) user habit onto FlightGear, then you're probably going to kill the entire project. I know, I'm exaggerating quite a bit, but the basic tendency is still true. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice autorisations
On 02/17/2012 12:10 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: I agree that OpenSource allows to add unfinished aircraft and that it can be a Plus for OpenSource. But that doesn't mean that you automatically have to do this! It can be also a Minus as it seems for me as our system has been abused here, and yes, the fact that all aircraft are downloadable without any sign of their state may FGFS let look bad! The reviewers could have also fly only from automatically-created airports and conclude that there are no airport buildings in FG. Is it a reason not to put unfinished airports in FG? Maybe the problem is that FG boasts hundreds of aircrafts instead of airports :-D. In my opinion the right way is to improve the unfinished a/c and not to banish them. That said, highlighting planes that are in the best state would be cool - e.g. filter in fgrun set to 'only those having at least 3-3-3-3 stars' by default or a status on a splashscreen. Edheldil -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice autorisations
The fact that we have now 3 different threads about the same topics: DC3, licence violation and cooperation in an OpenSource project, makes it difficult to see where the real problems are. There's a number of separate issues here. * license violation of some commits - this is a real problem, but I see no need to discuss this - it's brought to the attention of the people who have the rights to address this on the repository, if it's not obvious at this point that it needs to be dealt with, then why should further discussion help? * allegedly (I haven't checked) insults exchanged between people working on the same aircraft, followed by insults which I have witnessed - this is childish behaviour and should not be discussed on this list at all - adult people in the same project should be able to communicate in a professional manner with a basic level of politeness, regardless of personal disagreements. Certainly piling new insults on top of old ones, or mixing any other grievance with a person or the project at large isn't going to help * unfinished aircraft in the repository - seems useful to be to point out that there is a rational for having them * unfinished aircraft offered for download to end users - I am one of the people who nag and push for a rating, but these days I see the issue being addressed, maybe not as fast as I would like, but the world isn't perfect - certainly a soft of consensus has been reached and re-opening the issue won't help * misunderstanding about the nature of the GPL license - this is somewhat counter-intuitive and has been explained properly * unwritten rules for who is author and who decides what gets committed - tend to lead to problems, but this can be sorted out in a reasonable way, if necessary by forking. My personal impression is that original authors try to retain far too much control - anyone working closer to the core has to live with what others do and co-ordinate efforts. Case in point - weather radar development in the forum: This heavily relies on the weater system writing out the right info, you can't do it alone. So who is author in the end? Doesn't matter to me. * dislike of certain FDMs by certain people - simply don't use it, if I think a particular aircraft is bad/unfinished/whatever I don't fly it, likewise if I think a bit of scenery is badly done I don't go there - maybe I offer constructive criticism or try to improve it, but I don't think trashing someone's work in public will do any good whatsoever. Likewise, if you don't like to develop for a certain FDM, then don't do it. Above all, the problems shouldn't be mixed together. If there is a problem, that should be addressed, but not by creating a new problem. If a person has reacted improperly in some context, it doesn't give grounds to calling his work worthless in public. If the Flightgear project offers half-finished aircraft for download to the end user, that is not the fault of people commiting unfinished work to GIT. I don't think it's particularly difficult to see where the real problems are. I just think there are some personal grudges obscuring their identification. Cheers, * Thorsten -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page (was Re: Fair practice autorisations)
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 12:00 +0200, thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: Which the rating scheme makes a lot easier now. This makes me think that it may be a nice idea to have the top 10 of best rated aircraft available somewhere as an add-on to the base package. Or something like that. I'm currently writing a script to generate the aircraft download page that will include ratings, so users will be able to see the ratings of aircraft _before_ they download them. Hopefully I'll get it finished this evening in time for the weekend release, and we can use it for the 2.6.0 Download Aircraft page. Of course, many aircraft are not currently rated, but hopefully this will encourage authors to rate their aircraft for the 2.8.0 release. -Stuart -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft/Scenery development list needed?
Hi Yves, I am open to this sort of thing, but I wonder if our development list might be sufficient. It's relatively low traffic these days -- and we do have a section for this on the forum. We have a flightgear-flightmodel list that is almost never used. The thing about creating a new mailing list is that none of the relevant people are initially subscribed to it, and since it's all voluntary it could be that many of the important people would never get around to subscribing??? So my personal opinion is that I'd prefer to just discuss aircraft scenery development on the devel list until such point where there is so much traffic that it every one is asking for a separate list. On the other hand, if there is enough desire for this now by enough people, I'm willing to be convinced. My intent is not to dig in my heals and be a barrier to people working, but I don't want to go through a lot of extra effort for something that won't be effectively used either. Thanks, Curt. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM, HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Hi Curt Would it be a good idea to have a second mailinglist for aircraft and scenery development? I know there have been much more lists around in past. For me it starts to be very hard to find flightgear core related topics in this list now. I tried to add some filters to my reader, but without success. I hope there isn’t already another list and I missed it ;-) Cheers, Yves -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice autorisations
Heiko write: It can be also a Minus as it seems for me as our system has been abused here, and yes, the fact that all aircraft are downloadable without any sign of their state may FGFS let look bad! You might like to start adding status ratings to your own aircraft then ;) It's all described (since last May actually) at http://wiki.flightgear.org/Formalizing_Aircraft_Status I'd happily commit them! -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page (was Re: Fair practice autorisations)
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: I'm currently writing a script to generate the aircraft download page that will include ratings, so users will be able to see the ratings of aircraft _before_ they download them. Hopefully I'll get it finished this evening in time for the weekend release, and we can use it for the 2.6.0 Download Aircraft page. Of course, many aircraft are not currently rated, but hopefully this will encourage authors to rate their aircraft for the 2.8.0 release. I've managed to get this done, and passed the results to Curt, so the 2.6.0 Aircraft Download page will show ratings for aircraft, or a ? if the aircraft has not been rated. Currently, 34 of the 401 aircraft in fgdata/Aircraft have been rated (8.5%). -Stuart -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page
Stuart wrote: the 2.6.0 Aircraft Download page will show ratings for aircraft Great! On a slightly related note, stumbled accross this: a HTML5 JavaScript library to render 3D models in .ac format using WebGL. Might be a nice addition to our download page... Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html Source: http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ Cheers,Gijs -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page (was Re: Fair practice autorisations)
Hello Stuart, I've managed to get this done, and passed the results to Curt, so the 2.6.0 Aircraft Download page will show ratings for aircraft, or a ? if the aircraft has not been rated. Many, many Thanks for the work! I have created now a merge Request including the ratings of aircraft I have been involved, I hope it is not too late. Heiko still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page
On a slightly related note, stumbled accross this: a HTML5 JavaScript library to render 3D models in .ac format using WebGL. Might be a nice addition to our download page... Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html Source: http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ Hmmm... The latest version of Opera doesn't show me the models. Mozilla Firefox is able to do, but with render artifacts. I would rather see a search system, so people can search for their wanted criterias. Heiko still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Hello, My last two cents about [snip] ...Above all, the problems shouldn't be mixed together. If there is a problem, that should be addressed, but not by creating a new problem. If a person has reacted improperly in some context, it doesn't give grounds to calling his work worthless in public. If the Flightgear project offers half-finished aircraft for download to the end user, that is not the fault of people commiting unfinished work to GIT. I don't think it's particularly difficult to see where the real problems are. I just think there are some personal grudges obscuring their identification. [/snip] The whole text was a good summary. But the whole discussion and the issues have been just symptoms of following problems in my eyes. And I'm very sure, if we don't solve that we will have such a discussion in the near future again! 1.) to large FGdata-repo/ not transparent rules for committing 2.) aircraft rating scheme and Download page 3.) apparently inconsequent handling when licences has been violated (intended/unintended) about 1.) We really need a splitting of FGdata! Even if FGdata is the place for developement I don't see the need to download 10GB to have more than 200 aircraft in developement most of us not interested to improve due to different reasons. It has been already discussed here: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_splitting_fgdata and in the moment it sounds good to me when it will really work as described. about 2.)as the Download page will now use the rating system I hope this will solve this problem. We should really not ignore the fact that a lot of users will measure the quality of our simulator with the quality of aircraft we offer. We are a flightsimulator, it is all about flying and not only just showing nice looking aircraft-model. about 3.)already part of the planned splitting Fgdata. Such issues may happen due to different reasons (intended, unintended...), but needs some better handling. In the previous discussion about the current licence issues I had the feeling that the issue is underestimated and not taken seriously, but I might be wrong here. Heiko still in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote: On a slightly related note, stumbled accross this: a HTML5 JavaScript library to render 3D models in .ac format using WebGL. Might be a nice addition to our download page... Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html Source: http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ Hmmm... The latest version of Opera doesn't show me the models. Mozilla Firefox is able to do, but with render artifacts. I would rather see a search system, so people can search for their wanted criterias. Heiko Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html Firefox 3.6.26 doesn't show anything either, just a mostly blank gray page. -Gary -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page
www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com Gary Neely grne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote: On a slightly related note, stumbled accross this: a HTML5 JavaScript library to render 3D models in .ac format using WebGL. Might be a nice addition to our download page... Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html Source: http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ Hmmm... The latest version of Opera doesn't show me the models. Mozilla Firefox is able to do, but with render artifacts. I would rather see a search system, so people can search for their wanted criterias. Heiko Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html Firefox 3.6.26 doesn't show anything either, just a mostly blank gray page. -Gary -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:29:02 +1100, Scott Hamilton wrote: Sorry for my previous terse answer, but I was out and about, so using my phone while walking.. The link I gave below ( www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com ) is a very quick way to determine if your current browser supports WebGL, most modern browsers (except those by Microsoft) do support it with a specific version release. Also be aware that it requires the browser to be able to talk to your graphics card driver, Google Chrome for instance does not talk to AMD/ATI graphic drivers on Linux. http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GBanswer=1220892 [13] A list of browsers and versions can be found on the WebGL site http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Getting_a_WebGL_Implementation [14] S. www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com [8] Gary Neely wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: On a slightly related note, stumbled accross this: a HTML5 JavaScript library to render 3D models in .ac format using WebGL. Might be a nice addition to our download page... Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [1] Source: http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ [2] Hmmm... The latest version of Opera doesn't show me the models. Mozilla Firefox is able to do, but with render artifacts. I would rather see a search system, so people can search for their wanted criterias. Heiko Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [3] Firefox 3.6.26 doesn't show anything either, just a mostly blank gray page. -Gary -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [5] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [6] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [7] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [10] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [11] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [12] Links: -- [1] http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [2] http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ [3] http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [4] mailto:aeitsch...@yahoo.de [5] http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [6] mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [7] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [8] http://www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com [9] mailto:grne...@gmail.com [10] http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [11] mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [12] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [13] http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB|+|amp|+|answer=1220892 [14] http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Getting_a_WebGL_Implementation -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page
BTW I also found this Shader Editor in a browser. http://www.kickjs.org/example/shader_editor/shader_editor.html [15] On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:15:56 +1100, Scott Hamilton wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:29:02 +1100, Scott Hamilton wrote: Sorry for my previous terse answer, but I was out and about, so using my phone while walking.. The link I gave below ( www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com ) is a very quick way to determine if your current browser supports WebGL, most modern browsers (except those by Microsoft) do support it with a specific version release. Also be aware that it requires the browser to be able to talk to your graphics card driver, Google Chrome for instance does not talk to AMD/ATI graphic drivers on Linux. http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GBanswer=1220892 [13] A list of browsers and versions can be found on the WebGL site http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Getting_a_WebGL_Implementation [14] S. www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com [8] Gary Neely wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: On a slightly related note, stumbled accross this: a HTML5 JavaScript library to render 3D models in .ac format using WebGL. Might be a nice addition to our download page... Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [1] Source: http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ [2] Hmmm... The latest version of Opera doesn't show me the models. Mozilla Firefox is able to do, but with render artifacts. I would rather see a search system, so people can search for their wanted criterias. Heiko Demo: http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [3] Firefox 3.6.26 doesn't show anything either, just a mostly blank gray page. -Gary -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [5] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [6] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [7] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [10] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [11] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [12] Links: -- [1] http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [2] http://code.google.com/p/hangar/ [3] http://inmensia.com/files/hangar/flight-gallery/index.html [4] mailto:aeitsch...@yahoo.de [5] http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [6] mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [7] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [8] http://www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com [9] mailto:grne...@gmail.com [10] http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ [11] mailto:Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net [12] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel [13] http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB|+|amp|+|answer=1220892 [14] http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Getting_a_WebGL_Implementation [15] http://www.kickjs.org/example/shader_editor/shader_editor.html -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Projection system question
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..hopefully, the guys will have enough self discipline to stay away from something this kinky until they have the old hag (FG-2.6) out the door, should be happening around the 17'th, I'm having my gear coming into my new workshop home on the 16'th and the 17'th. ...or maybe we could be spectacularly lucky in that you fall down a stair case and lose all abililty to communicate this nonsense electronically. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r] -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft ratings on the download page (was Re: Fair practice autorisations)
Am 18.02.2012 01:04, schrieb Heiko Schulz: I have created now a merge Request including the ratings of aircraft I have been involved, I hope it is not too late. It is :-( Torsten -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
