Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag 2011 (sneak preview)

2011-04-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> Yes, the booth was confirmed.
And this is a preview of what will be seen at the booth:
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11881

don't miss it!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag 2011

2011-04-28 Thread Martin Spott
Gijs de Rooy wrote:

> Do "virtual visitors" count? Hm, only if you'll have an internet connection 
> at the 
> booth of course...

We'll see. Primary focus is to serve the local visitors  ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag 2011

2011-04-28 Thread James Turner

On 28 Apr 2011, at 20:40, Martin Spott wrote:

> Does any of the non-German crowd plan to serve as booth staff or attend
> LinuxTag as a visitor ?

Unfortunately this year I have a work commitment, but hopefully next year!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag 2011

2011-04-28 Thread Gijs de Rooy

> Martin Spott wrote:
> 
> Does any of the non-German crowd plan to serve as booth staff or attend
> LinuxTag as a visitor ?

Do "virtual visitors" count? Hm, only if you'll have an internet connection at 
the 
booth of course...

Anyway, wish you all the best and lots of fun. From experience I can tell booths
like this are very nice to participate in, so anyone who is able to go there: 
do it!!
Even if it is just for a single day.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag 2011

2011-04-28 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote:

> Looks like we're going to have a booth this year again:
> 
>  http://www.linuxtag.org/2011/en.html
> 
> I'll post an update as soon as the booth is definitely confirmed.

I hope I did   not sure if I forgot to send it. In case of doubt:
Yes, the booth was confirmed.
Does any of the non-German crowd plan to serve as booth staff or attend
LinuxTag as a visitor ?

Cheers,
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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag 2011

2011-01-24 Thread Martin Spott
Looks like we're going to have a booth this year again:

  http://www.linuxtag.org/2011/en.html

I'll post an update as soon as the booth is definitely confirmed.
Generally I'd say: If you were planning to visit Berlin anyway, this is
the perfect occasion for killing two birds with just one stone.

Cheers,
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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Spott
Hi,
just wanted to let you know that this year's application for a booth on
LinuxTag [1] has been approved today.
Cheers,
Martin.
[1]: http://www.linuxtag.org/2010/en.html
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make

2006-03-19 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Curt,

"Curtis L. Olson" wrote:

> I've added a very short entry in our events section on the FG web site.  
> Feel free to expand on that a little bit if you like and send me the 
> results.  Or if you are happy with the current text we can just leave it 
> alone.

Thank you for adding the notice. I know, my response is a bit late -
but I thought: Better late than never  :-)

I've been digging through lots of entries on my personal TODO for days
now and once I got back to the LinuxTag publicity task I'll send an
update to you. We expect our boot layout being presented to us this
monday - this will tell us wihch sort of display we will be able to
arrange.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-13 Thread David Megginson
On 13/03/06, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh, they have a nice portofolio of sim-related controls and
> instruments, if only the price tag   I wonder what a _real_ set of
> Cessna pedaly would cost me if I build an appropriate frame on my own,

That won't help you much -- the pedals themselves wouldn't give a
realistic feel without a cable system to the rudder (which would have
to have wind forces pushing it back to centre) and the bungee-sprung
steerable nosewheel.  If you're still interested, try Wentworth or one
of the other aircraft wrecking yards.


All the best,


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-13 Thread Martin Spott
Paul Surgeon wrote:

> If you want decent rudder pedals then you may want to look at the Flight Link 
> Jet Rudder Control Module from 
> http://www.aviationsimulation.co.uk/acatalog/_Pedals.html

Oh, they have a nice portofolio of sim-related controls and
instruments, if only the price tag   I wonder what a _real_ set of
Cessna pedaly would cost me if I build an appropriate frame on my own,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-08 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Freitag, den 03.03.2006, 17:45 + schrieb Martin Spott:
> Detlef Faber wrote:
> 
> > I would like to do some scenery work, but as I don't live in
Wiesbaden I
> > might do some generic models of rhine bridges or Highways. Also I
like
> > to put some AI ships on the rhine. Finally, what do you think about
a
> > Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery?
> 
> Oh, that would be a great addition. Be warned, though, that 'nice'
> Ju-52 might be a real challenge - not to say a huge pile of work  :-)
> If you want to paint one with a funny look, then you could take that
> one:
> 
>   http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0895974&WxsIERv=PNFN%20352N-3%
20%28Whaxref%20Wh-52%29&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Wh-Nve&QtODMg=Zbapuratynqonpu%20%
28-%20Qhffryqbes%20Rkcerff%29%20%28ZTY%20%2F%20RQYA%
29&ERDLTkt=Treznal&ktODMp=Whyl%2017%2C%202005&BP=1&WNEb25u=Gbovnf%20Ebfr
%20-%20Unzohet%20ErggbcF&xsIERvdWdsY=UO-UBL&MgTUQtODMgKE=Gnxvat%20bss%
20sebz%20ehajnl%2031%20sbe%20nabgure%20fvtugfrrvat%20syvtug.%20Jrnevat%
20uncvznt.pbz%20p%2Ff.%20Jnf%20ohvyg%20va%20Fcnva%20ol%
20PNFN.&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=490&NEb25uZWxs=2005-08-08%
> 2018%3A39%
3A16&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=96&static=yes&width=1024&height=695&sok=JURER%
20%20%28nveyvar%20%3D%20%27WH-NVE%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%
20QRFP&photo_nr=13&prev_id=0919554&next_id=0882674
> 
> But I would'nt call that "nice"   This is the one that is based at
> Moenchengladbach during the summer,
> 
>   Martin.

Here are some (early) screenshots:

http://sol2500.net/flightgear/ju-52-1.jpg

http://sol2500.net/flightgear/ju-52-2.jpg

http://sol2500.net/flightgear/ju-52-3.jpg

I could use some flight data for the fdm. Especially flight reports by
people who flew this bird are very welcome.

Thanks in advance


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-07 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Dienstag, den 07.03.2006, 11:05 +0100 schrieb Robicd:
> > I#ve reviewed the google Sattelite Images and found some amazing
> > details. First I wanted to do some rather generic bridges, but some
> > images are very detailed (at least for rhine bridges), so I will do some
> > more "types" (Railroad, Highway, etc). 
> > Sorry, no screenshots yet.
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > D. Faber
> 
> I suggest you take a look at: www.wiesbaden.de > Stadtplan > 1024*768 Start
> In the popup window choose:  Karten > Luftbilder.
> 
> It's a very detailed aerial pictures collection of Wiesbaden city, much 
> more detailed then Google Map in the same region.
> 
> Roberto
> 
> 
Thanks for the Link, that fills the gap north of Mainz Finthen.

Greetings

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-07 Thread Robicd

I#ve reviewed the google Sattelite Images and found some amazing
details. First I wanted to do some rather generic bridges, but some
images are very detailed (at least for rhine bridges), so I will do some
more "types" (Railroad, Highway, etc). 
Sorry, no screenshots yet.


Greetings

D. Faber


I suggest you take a look at: www.wiesbaden.de > Stadtplan > 1024*768 Start
In the popup window choose:  Karten > Luftbilder.

It's a very detailed aerial pictures collection of Wiesbaden city, much 
more detailed then Google Map in the same region.


Roberto


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-07 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Montag, den 06.03.2006, 23:00 +0100 schrieb Robicd:
> Hi Detlef,
> 
> > I would like to do some scenery work, but as I don't live in Wiesbaden I
> > might do some generic models of rhine bridges or Highways. Also I like
> > to put some AI ships on the rhine. Finally, what do you think about a
> > Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery?
> > 
> > I know there is some scenery object development for the "Rhein-Main"
> > Area on the  german flightgear forum at http://www.flight-gear.de. 
> 
> How are things going with the scenery? Did you already modelled some of 
> those bridges?
> I am populating the city center with roughly modelled buildings, using 
> aerial pictures as reference, trying to get something similar to 
> reality. It's a pity there's no automated process, but with enough time 
> I will get something acceptable in the next few days.
> You can look at some screenshots of the undergoing work in 
> flight-gear.de forum (section Allgemeine Diskussionen), maybe we can 
> start putting things together and see how they look.
> 
>Roberto
> 
Hello Roberto,

I#ve reviewed the google Sattelite Images and found some amazing
details. First I wanted to do some rather generic bridges, but some
images are very detailed (at least for rhine bridges), so I will do some
more "types" (Railroad, Highway, etc). 
Sorry, no screenshots yet.

Greetings

D. Faber
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-06 Thread Robicd

Hi Detlef,


I would like to do some scenery work, but as I don't live in Wiesbaden I
might do some generic models of rhine bridges or Highways. Also I like
to put some AI ships on the rhine. Finally, what do you think about a
Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery?

I know there is some scenery object development for the "Rhein-Main"
Area on the  german flightgear forum at http://www.flight-gear.de. 


How are things going with the scenery? Did you already modelled some of 
those bridges?
I am populating the city center with roughly modelled buildings, using 
aerial pictures as reference, trying to get something similar to 
reality. It's a pity there's no automated process, but with enough time 
I will get something acceptable in the next few days.
You can look at some screenshots of the undergoing work in 
flight-gear.de forum (section Allgemeine Diskussionen), maybe we can 
start putting things together and see how they look.


  Roberto


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Friday 03 March 2006 11:44, Ralf Gerlich wrote:
> That is EDDF, Frankfurt/Main Intl airport.
>
> However, Frankfurt/Main may be interesting nonetheless regarding scenery
> objects. As I know Ingrid ;-), she'll target more than "just" Wiesbaden
> and therefore we'll probably also do Frankfurt (or at least part of
> that, as time permits).
>
> I know there has been some discussion going on on the German Flightgear
> Forum at http://flight-gear.de/ regarding objects in the Frankfurt/Main
> area, but I currently don't know how far they got and whether these
> objects are already in Jon's DB.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf

Did you say Frankfurt? :)

Julien is working on a program called svg2ac.  The other day, we did an 
experiment generating the Frankfurt airport out of an FAA's airport diagram 
using this program.

http://flamebunny.homelinux.net/pics/EDDF.jpg

As you can see, there are still some bugs that need to be ironed out, and 
Julien could use some help in this area.  But once everything works properly, 
buildings' size and placement would be accurate down to the meter.

This should cut down your work considerably, I would imagine. ;)

Ampere


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-05 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Friday 03 March 2006 22:53, David Megginson wrote:
> On 03/03/06, Matthias Boerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never
> > > used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other
> > > people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found
> > > there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but
> > > in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces
> > > to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a
> > > recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the
> > > controls of a real aircraft ?
> >
> > if we aren't able to get any hardware for flying we can use my pedals and
> > my joystick (Simped-F16/USB and ThrustMaster Hotas Cougar/USB).
>
> I had the CH USB yoke and pedals, but ended up donating both to our
> local charity store about a year ago.  They took up a lot of room,
> were a pain to set up, and didn't make the aircraft any easier to
> control.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> David


If you want decent rudder pedals then you may want to look at the Flight Link 
Jet Rudder Control Module from 
http://www.aviationsimulation.co.uk/acatalog/_Pedals.html

It costs over €2000 but they're made to Boeing specs and evidently work really 
well. They can also be mechanically linked which is useful for cockpit 
builders.

Paul


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 23:25:21 +0100, Thomas wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Am Freitag 03 März 2006 21:55 schrieb Martin Spott:
> > Jon Stockill wrote:
> > > I think there have been objects added for that area, but the
> > > screenshots I've seen seem to indicate that a lot more are
> > > available. The power station data for Germany was added this
> > > morning, so that'll give a few hundred more objects when it's
> > > exported tonight. Just a generic model for now, but since these
> > > things are often used as reporting points
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > To my experience power stations are most useful when you fly over
> > the clouds and don't want to bother with radio navigation. Simply
> > follow the cloud-'towers' that break through the 'regular' cloud
> > layers and you're done  :-)
> 
> Yep, we're just calling them visual VOR, though visual NDB might be
> more  appropiate... Nice for cross bearings if you only have 1 VOR
> receiver.
> 
> BTW would it be possible to somehow wrap the 3D clouds code in a model
> animation, so that it could be used for  smoke/steam plumes from
> cooling towers?

..if you're thinking "check for vapor pressure, dew point" etc, 
some of this code could be used to draw contrails, too.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-04 Thread Jon Stockill

Martin Spott wrote:


To my experience power stations are most useful when you fly over the
clouds and don't want to bother with radio navigation. Simply follow
the cloud-'towers' that break through the 'regular' cloud layers and
you're done  :-)


OK, so we need to add cloud to the cooling towers :-) Should be easy 
enough to use something similar to the windsock xml to make them stream 
downwind, just need a decent cloud model.


Jon


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Friday 03 March 2006 17:28, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> Let me just say that hanging out in a booth is a *lot* of fun.  You get
> to spend the entire day talking about FlightGear and flight simulation
> and aviation ... what could be better?
Well, looking forward to that!

   Greetings

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Durk Talsma
On Friday 03 March 2006 08:40, Martin Spott wrote:
> Martin Spott wrote:
> > It's pretty likely that we're going to have a booth at the Linux-Tag
> > exhibition in Wiesbaden on May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to present the
> > local area to the visitors it would be nice to have an online-map
> > showing Wiesbaden and its entourage.
>
> Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on
> the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my
> mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and
> that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So
> here's my "feature request" - others might follow  :-)
>
Unfortunately, I will be staying in Kingston, Ont, Canada from mid April until 
mid June. Otherwise I would probably have joined in. LinuxTag 2001 was so 
great, I'd loved to go back again sometime. 

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Freitag 03 März 2006 21:55 schrieb Martin Spott:
> Jon Stockill wrote:
> > I think there have been objects added for that area, but the screenshots
> > I've seen seem to indicate that a lot more are available. The power
> > station data for Germany was added this morning, so that'll give a few
> > hundred more objects when it's exported tonight. Just a generic model
> > for now, but since these things are often used as reporting points
>
> [...]
>
> To my experience power stations are most useful when you fly over the
> clouds and don't want to bother with radio navigation. Simply follow
> the cloud-'towers' that break through the 'regular' cloud layers and
> you're done  :-)

Yep, we're just calling them visual VOR, though visual NDB might be more 
appropiate... Nice for cross bearings if you only have 1 VOR receiver.

BTW would it be possible to somehow wrap the 3D clouds code in a model 
animation, so that it could be used for  smoke/steam plumes from cooling 
towers?

Thomas


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Stockill wrote:

> I think there have been objects added for that area, but the screenshots 
> I've seen seem to indicate that a lot more are available. The power 
> station data for Germany was added this morning, so that'll give a few 
> hundred more objects when it's exported tonight. Just a generic model 
> for now, but since these things are often used as reporting points
[...]

To my experience power stations are most useful when you fly over the
clouds and don't want to bother with radio navigation. Simply follow
the cloud-'towers' that break through the 'regular' cloud layers and
you're done  :-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread David Megginson
On 03/03/06, Matthias Boerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never
> > used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other
> > people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found
> > there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but
> > in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces
> > to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a
> > recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the
> > controls of a real aircraft ?
>
> if we aren't able to get any hardware for flying we can use my pedals and my
> joystick (Simped-F16/USB and ThrustMaster Hotas Cougar/USB).

I had the CH USB yoke and pedals, but ended up donating both to our
local charity store about a year ago.  They took up a lot of room,
were a pain to set up, and didn't make the aircraft any easier to
control.


All the best,


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Matthias Boerner
Hi Martin,

-->snip
> Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never
> used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other
> people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found
> there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but
> in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces
> to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a
> recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the
> controls of a real aircraft ?

if we aren't able to get any hardware for flying we can use my pedals and my 
joystick (Simped-F16/USB and ThrustMaster Hotas Cougar/USB).

Greetings

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Jon Stockill

Ralf Gerlich wrote:

I know there has been some discussion going on on the German Flightgear 
Forum at http://flight-gear.de/ regarding objects in the Frankfurt/Main 
area, but I currently don't know how far they got and whether these 
objects are already in Jon's DB.


I think there have been objects added for that area, but the screenshots 
I've seen seem to indicate that a lot more are available. The power 
station data for Germany was added this morning, so that'll give a few 
hundred more objects when it's exported tonight. Just a generic model 
for now, but since these things are often used as reporting points if 
there are any that people want to replace with more specific models I'm 
happy to accept them :-)


Jon


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
"Roberto Inzerillo" wrote:

> There's also ETOU airport at high resolution (is that civil or military?).

ET?? is always European military,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Detlef Faber wrote:

> I would like to do some scenery work, but as I don't live in Wiesbaden I
> might do some generic models of rhine bridges or Highways. Also I like
> to put some AI ships on the rhine. Finally, what do you think about a
> Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery?

Oh, that would be a great addition. Be warned, though, that 'nice'
Ju-52 might be a real challenge - not to say a huge pile of work  :-)
If you want to paint one with a funny look, then you could take that
one:

  
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0895974&WxsIERv=PNFN%20352N-3%20%28Whaxref%20Wh-52%29&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Wh-Nve&QtODMg=Zbapuratynqonpu%20%28-%20Qhffryqbes%20Rkcerff%29%20%28ZTY%20%2F%20RQYA%29&ERDLTkt=Treznal&ktODMp=Whyl%2017%2C%202005&BP=1&WNEb25u=Gbovnf%20Ebfr%20-%20Unzohet%20ErggbcF&xsIERvdWdsY=UO-UBL&MgTUQtODMgKE=Gnxvat%20bss%20sebz%20ehajnl%2031%20sbe%20nabgure%20fvtugfrrvat%20syvtug.%20Jrnevat%20uncvznt.pbz%20p%2Ff.%20Jnf%20ohvyg%20va%20Fcnva%20ol%20PNFN.&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=490&NEb25uZWxs=2005-08-08%
2018%3A39%3A16&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=96&static=yes&width=1024&height=695&sok=JURER%20%20%28nveyvar%20%3D%20%27WH-NVE%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=13&prev_id=0919554&next_id=0882674

But I would'nt call that "nice"   This is the one that is based at
Moenchengladbach during the summer,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Georg Vollnhals

Roberto Inzerillo schrieb:
maps.google.com has detailed satellite imagery for portions of 
Wiesbaden.  That might help at least with positioning objects and seeing 
their top-down footprint.


Curt.


I already explored google maps, Wiesbaden is not detailed at all :-(
I don't know what you mean with that. The area around Wiesbaden is very low
quality (compared to the Frankfurt area e.g.). You don't even distinguish
the building's footprint.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=germany&ll=50.078405,8.236742&spn=0.029689,0.096817&t=h

Are we looking the same maps.google.com ?

   Roberto


Hi Roberto,
please contact me off-list, might be there is a solution for top-down 
pics and messurement.

Regards
Georg EDDW

BTW: just got a telephone call, I have to work for 1 hour or two, but 
will answer this (late?) evening!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
> Curtis L. Olson schrieb:
> > I'm not familiar with the area so I don't know where Wiesbaden stops and
> > surrounding towns start.  I'm sure you are correct in everything you 
> > say.  I just noticed that there is detailed imagery near by that 
> > includes a detailed image of the airport.  Perhaps that is another city 
> > or town though.
> 
> That is EDDF, Frankfurt/Main Intl airport.

There's also ETOU airport at high resolution (is that civil or military?).
That is where google high resolution maps end, the Wiesbaden town maps are
almost useless :-(
 
Anyone has a high resolution map of the area around the Rhein Main Hallen?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Ralf Gerlich

Curtis L. Olson schrieb:
I'm not familiar with the area so I don't know where Wiesbaden stops and 
surrounding towns start.  I'm sure you are correct in everything you 
say.  I just noticed that there is detailed imagery near by that 
includes a detailed image of the airport.  Perhaps that is another city 
or town though.


That is EDDF, Frankfurt/Main Intl airport.

However, Frankfurt/Main may be interesting nonetheless regarding scenery 
objects. As I know Ingrid ;-), she'll target more than "just" Wiesbaden 
and therefore we'll probably also do Frankfurt (or at least part of 
that, as time permits).


I know there has been some discussion going on on the German Flightgear 
Forum at http://flight-gear.de/ regarding objects in the Frankfurt/Main 
area, but I currently don't know how far they got and whether these 
objects are already in Jon's DB.


Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Roberto Inzerillo wrote:

maps.google.com has detailed satellite imagery for portions of 
Wiesbaden.  That might help at least with positioning objects and seeing 
their top-down footprint.


Curt.
   



I already explored google maps, Wiesbaden is not detailed at all :-(
I don't know what you mean with that. The area around Wiesbaden is very low
quality (compared to the Frankfurt area e.g.). You don't even distinguish
the building's footprint.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=germany&ll=50.078405,8.236742&spn=0.029689,0.096817&t=h

Are we looking the same maps.google.com ?
 



I'm not familiar with the area so I don't know where Wiesbaden stops and 
surrounding towns start.  I'm sure you are correct in everything you 
say.  I just noticed that there is detailed imagery near by that 
includes a detailed image of the airport.  Perhaps that is another city 
or town though.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Martin Spott wrote:


Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on
the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my
mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and
that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So
here's my "feature request" - others might follow  :-)

The LinuxTag-show will take place at the Rhein-Main-Hallen in Wiesbaden

 http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/aktuelles.html
 http://www.rhein-main-hallen.de/
 



Martin,

I've added a very short entry in our events section on the FG web site.  
Feel free to expand on that a little bit if you like and send me the 
results.  Or if you are happy with the current text we can just leave it 
alone.



There's another request: Is anybody on this list who has experience in
createin live-CD's like Knoppix ? It would be nice to have a FlightGear
live-CD to give away - or at least to have a CD image on out FTP
mirrors that we can point at.

Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never
used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other
people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found
there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but
in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces
to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a
recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the
controls of a real aircraft ?
 



I don't know of anything inexpensive except for the CH products yoke and 
pedals.  I can say that it's possible to get the correct feel of the 
pedals and yoke (within FAA Level 3 FTD standards) using only springs.  
It's just a matter of adjusting the spring tension until you get within 
tolerence.


http://www.atcflightsim makes some hardware with a really nice feel 
especially for light single engine planes, but I imagine the cost is a 
little out of the range of an typical individual since they sell whole 
simulator systems, not just pieces.  PFC also makes more realistic 
hardware, but as far as I know there is no FG interface.  At one time 
(several years ago) I offered to build one for them, but they didn't 
care to talk to me and weren't interested in FG.  Now I've lost personal 
interest in supporting PFC hardware, but it's fine if someone else wants 
to build the interface.



And the last one for today: Is anyobody on this list whom we didn't
already contact, who would like to support us in running the booth and
who at least is able to speak som German words ? The more people we
have at the booth the easier the 'job' will get.
 



Let me just say that hanging out in a booth is a *lot* of fun.  You get 
to spend the entire day talking about FlightGear and flight simulation 
and aviation ... what could be better?


Regards,

Curt.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
> maps.google.com has detailed satellite imagery for portions of 
> Wiesbaden.  That might help at least with positioning objects and seeing 
> their top-down footprint.
> 
> Curt.

I already explored google maps, Wiesbaden is not detailed at all :-(
I don't know what you mean with that. The area around Wiesbaden is very low
quality (compared to the Frankfurt area e.g.). You don't even distinguish
the building's footprint.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=germany&ll=50.078405,8.236742&spn=0.029689,0.096817&t=h

Are we looking the same maps.google.com ?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Detlef Faber wrote:


Finally, what do you think about a Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery?
 



A Ju-52 in any livery would be an awsome addition.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Robicd wrote:

I started posting the Wiesbaden Neroturm Tempel to fgfsdb.stockill.org 
maintainers.


I'd like to have more pictures and dimensions of the relevant 
buildings in order to build something realistic at all. I'll do some 
more 3d stuff but that needs more data which I still can't find. Any 
help?



maps.google.com has detailed satellite imagery for portions of 
Wiesbaden.  That might help at least with positioning objects and seeing 
their top-down footprint.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Robicd

We already triggered Ralf and Ingrid to try to prepare detailed scenery
for the show so that the guests of our booth could fly around over the
local entourage. Now as I realize that much progress has been made
regarding the Scenery Objects Database and that there are lots of
skilled designers out there I'd like to ask kindly if those who have
fun to create new scenery models would consider creating some buildings
that reside in the environment of Wiesbaden. There definitely _are_
lots of significant buildings there so having a few of then to show on
the show would be terribly nice.
Please post your intentions on this list in order to avoid duplicate
effort on certain buildings.



I would like to do some scenery work, but as I don't live in Wiesbaden I
might do some generic models of rhine bridges or Highways. Also I like
to put some AI ships on the rhine. Finally, what do you think about a
Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery?


I started posting the Wiesbaden Neroturm Tempel to fgfsdb.stockill.org 
maintainers.


I'd like to have more pictures and dimensions of the relevant buildings 
in order to build something realistic at all. I'll do some more 3d stuff 
but that needs more data which I still can't find. Any help?


 Roberto


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Freitag, den 03.03.2006, 07:40 + schrieb Martin Spott: 
> Martin Spott wrote:
> 
> > It's pretty likely that we're going to have a booth at the Linux-Tag
> > exhibition in Wiesbaden on May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to present the
> > local area to the visitors it would be nice to have an online-map
> > showing Wiesbaden and its entourage.
> 
> Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on
> the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my
> mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and
> that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So
> here's my "feature request" - others might follow  :-)
> 
> The LinuxTag-show will take place at the Rhein-Main-Hallen in Wiesbaden
> 
>   http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/aktuelles.html
>   http://www.rhein-main-hallen.de/
> 
> We already triggered Ralf and Ingrid to try to prepare detailed scenery
> for the show so that the guests of our booth could fly around over the
> local entourage. Now as I realize that much progress has been made
> regarding the Scenery Objects Database and that there are lots of
> skilled designers out there I'd like to ask kindly if those who have
> fun to create new scenery models would consider creating some buildings
> that reside in the environment of Wiesbaden. There definitely _are_
> lots of significant buildings there so having a few of then to show on
> the show would be terribly nice.
> Please post your intentions on this list in order to avoid duplicate
> effort on certain buildings.
> 
I would like to do some scenery work, but as I don't live in Wiesbaden I
might do some generic models of rhine bridges or Highways. Also I like
to put some AI ships on the rhine. Finally, what do you think about a
Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery?

I know there is some scenery object development for the "Rhein-Main"
Area on the  german flightgear forum at http://www.flight-gear.de. 

> There's another request: Is anybody on this list who has experience in
> createin live-CD's like Knoppix ? It would be nice to have a FlightGear
> live-CD to give away - or at least to have a CD image on out FTP
> mirrors that we can point at.
> 
> Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never
> used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other
> people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found
> there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but
> in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces
> to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a
> recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the
> controls of a real aircraft ?
> 
> And the last one for today: Is anyobody on this list whom we didn't
> already contact, who would like to support us in running the booth and
> who at least is able to speak som German words ? The more people we
> have at the booth the easier the 'job' will get.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Martin.



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote:

> Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on
> the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my
> mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and
> that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So
> here's my "feature request" - others might follow  :-)

Another one: It would be terrific if we'd experience a crash-free (in
the sense of a software crash  :-)  FlightGear simulator during the
show. Maybe would be a good idea to couple this event with an official
Flightgear release as the goals are very similar: The software should
run stable, there should be a deadline that can't be pushed back
arbitrarily and there should be some public attention 

Martin.
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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-02 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote:

> It's pretty likely that we're going to have a booth at the Linux-Tag
> exhibition in Wiesbaden on May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to present the
> local area to the visitors it would be nice to have an online-map
> showing Wiesbaden and its entourage.

Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on
the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my
mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and
that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So
here's my "feature request" - others might follow  :-)

The LinuxTag-show will take place at the Rhein-Main-Hallen in Wiesbaden

  http://www.linuxtag.org/2006/en/home/aktuelles.html
  http://www.rhein-main-hallen.de/

We already triggered Ralf and Ingrid to try to prepare detailed scenery
for the show so that the guests of our booth could fly around over the
local entourage. Now as I realize that much progress has been made
regarding the Scenery Objects Database and that there are lots of
skilled designers out there I'd like to ask kindly if those who have
fun to create new scenery models would consider creating some buildings
that reside in the environment of Wiesbaden. There definitely _are_
lots of significant buildings there so having a few of then to show on
the show would be terribly nice.
Please post your intentions on this list in order to avoid duplicate
effort on certain buildings.

There's another request: Is anybody on this list who has experience in
createin live-CD's like Knoppix ? It would be nice to have a FlightGear
live-CD to give away - or at least to have a CD image on out FTP
mirrors that we can point at.

Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never
used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other
people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found
there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard - but
in a real aircraft (Cessna, Piper) you don't need strong initial forces
to move the pedals out of the center position. Now: Does anyone have a
recommendation for pedals and a yoke that he knows resemble the
controls of a real aircraft ?

And the last one for today: Is anyobody on this list whom we didn't
already contact, who would like to support us in running the booth and
who at least is able to speak som German words ? The more people we
have at the booth the easier the 'job' will get.

Thanks,
Martin.
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