AW: keep is not auto but context is

2009-08-25 Thread Georg Datterl
Hi Andreas, 

Nope, doesn't bother me that much, since it makes no difference.

Regards,
 
Georg Datterl
 
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On 24 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

 What does this message mean?

It's a warning message, indicating that the current keep-context is set to 
auto, but the keep-property specified on the FO for which layout/breaking is 
performed, has a different value.

I guess the message could probably be set to a lower level (DEBUG) if it 
bothers you...

Regards

Andreas

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AW: Display of fractions

2009-08-25 Thread Georg Datterl
Hi Andreas, 

You are right. Both pdfs are created from the same fo file, but the one which 
doesn't work as expected is reformatted by Xmlspy first. And there's no way as 
far as I can see, to keep the inlines in one line. Well, doesn't matter. I was 
hoping it would be a clue to improve the blank-block algorithm, but no luck. 
Thanks for your help, now I can concentrate on the next problem.

Regards,
 
Georg Datterl
 
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Gesendet: Montag, 24. August 2009 18:13
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Betreff: Re: Display of fractions

On 24 Aug 2009, at 13:33, Georg Datterl wrote:

Hi Georg

 In my fo file I have a text like
 fo:inline font-family=arial bold font-size=4pt line- height=8pt 
 baseline-shift=2pt3/fo:inline
 fo:inline font-family=arial bold font-size=6pt line- 
 height=8pt∕/fo:inline fo:inline font-family=arial bold 
 font-size=4pt line- height=8pt4/fo:inline

 The second character is Unicode 2215. When I generate the PDF through 
 the batch file from subversion, this sequence looks like 3 / 4, 
 whereas when I generate the PDF through my application, it is pulled 
 together to a bit more than one character width and looks like a true 
 fraction. See attached screenshot. Can anybody tell me, which part of 
 fop is responsible for this difference and why the batch file does not 
 trigger this part?

My best guess would be a difference in white-space in the source FO.  
If you serialize it to disk first, depending on the value of the 'indent' 
attribute on xsl:output, the XSLT processor may add white- space in between the 
fo:inlines. When you feed XML+XSLT to FOP in your application, the fo:inlines 
are most likely not separated by white- space (a compliant XSLT processor 
should ignore the 'indent' attribute in that case), hence why you get the 
intended result there.

Note that there is, AFAIK, no combination of related properties in XSL- FO that 
would completely suppress the linefeeds between the fo:inlines. There will 
always at least remain a space, which could be a ZWSP if linefeed-treatment is 
set to treat-as-zero-width-space.
The only fail-safe approach is always to make sure that there is no white-space 
in the FO source that you do not intend to see in the eventual output.


HTH!

Andreas

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Re: keep is not auto but context is

2009-08-25 Thread Vincent Hennebert
Hi,

Andreas Delmelle wrote:
 On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:58, Andreas Delmelle wrote:
 
 On 24 Aug 2009, at 15:00, Georg Datterl wrote:

 What does this message mean?

 It's a warning message, indicating that the current keep-context is
 set to auto, but the keep-property specified on the FO for which
 layout/breaking is performed, has a different value.
 
 Note: AFAICT, this message mainly originates from keeps on
 table-elements for which they are not completely implemented yet.
 fo:table-cells are an example where support for keeps is lacking, but
 since it does work for fo:table-row, and fo:table-cell inherits the
 value from its ancestors...

Keeps do /not/ apply to fo:table-cell:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl11/#fo_table-cell

Keeps are fully implemented on all supported table elements to which
they apply, that is fo:table and fo:table-row (the fo:table-and-caption
and fo:table-caption elements are not supported at all).

Keep-together is an inherited property, so the descendant elements of
fo:table-cell to which that property applies will behave accordingly.
But the code related to table-cell has nothing special to do.

So whatever that warning means, it is not related to tables.


 At any rate, it has no noticeable effect on the output. The warning
 appears for some testcases as well, but would disappear if keeps on
 table-cells would be properly implemented.


Vincent

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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread TomWilcox

Hi Guys,

Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 

I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each of the
different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression
dimension?), etc. 

It would be really good to have a definitive description of the meaning and
function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I have been
searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that
completely satisfies this requirement.

Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough documentation
of the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an
explanation of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a given
block from an IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda? and
bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).

I am very grateful for any assistance.

Thanks in advance,
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AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread Georg Datterl
Hi Tom,

bpd is the HEIGHT of the area. prod-id is the reference attribute id. Those are 
the ones I use extensively.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 
Georg Datterl
 
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Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling


Hi Guys,

Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 

I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each of the 
different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression dimension?), 
etc. 

It would be really good to have a definitive description of the meaning and 
function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I have been 
searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that completely 
satisfies this requirement.

Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough documentation of 
the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an explanation 
of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a given block from an 
IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda? and
bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).

I am very grateful for any assistance.

Thanks in advance,
Tom
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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread Jeremias Maerki
There's no formal documentation of the area tree XML format to date. It
is something very very few people need to use and the whole thing grew
organically over time, so documentation wasn't a top priority. A
contribution in this direction would be highly welcome. I'm happy to
fill in any blanks if such a documentation is started. I don't have time
to write the whole thing myself in the short term.

bpd = block-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
   (= height for lr-tb script)
bpda = allocated bpd = content bpd + spaces + borders + padding

ipd = inline-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
   (= width for lr-tb script)
ipda = allocated ipd = content ipd  + spaces + borders + padding

Units are millipoints (1000ths of a point) as used in most of FOP (most
notably the layout engine).

Please note that our area tree is relatively close to the conceptual
area tree (with its traits) described in the XSL specification. If you
know a bit of the specification, the area tree XML is much easier to
read.

If you look into our layout engine test suite
(test/layoutengine/standard-testcases), you'll find a lot of examples of
what is expected in the area tree for various situations.

HTH

On 25.08.2009 16:26:29 TomWilcox wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 
 
 I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each of the
 different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression
 dimension?), etc. 
 
 It would be really good to have a definitive description of the meaning and
 function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I have been
 searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that
 completely satisfies this requirement.
 
 Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough documentation
 of the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an
 explanation of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a given
 block from an IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda? and
 bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).
 
 I am very grateful for any assistance.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Tom
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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread TomWilcox

Hi Jeremias and Georg,

Thanks very much. That's really helpful and at least good to know that no
proper documentation exists. 

I have taken the liberty of starting a wiki to share this information whilst
I attempt to accumulate more info about the IF tree. If anyone would like to
contribute please do. It would be great to produce something of use to
anyone else with similar needs.

I have added the information that you have both provided me to the wiki page
(and cited you both as contributors) please let me know if this is not OK
and feel free to edit.

Thanks,
Tom



Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
 
 There's no formal documentation of the area tree XML format to date. It
 is something very very few people need to use and the whole thing grew
 organically over time, so documentation wasn't a top priority. A
 contribution in this direction would be highly welcome. I'm happy to
 fill in any blanks if such a documentation is started. I don't have time
 to write the whole thing myself in the short term.
 
 bpd = block-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
(= height for lr-tb script)
 bpda = allocated bpd = content bpd + spaces + borders + padding
 
 ipd = inline-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
(= width for lr-tb script)
 ipda = allocated ipd = content ipd  + spaces + borders + padding
 
 Units are millipoints (1000ths of a point) as used in most of FOP (most
 notably the layout engine).
 
 Please note that our area tree is relatively close to the conceptual
 area tree (with its traits) described in the XSL specification. If you
 know a bit of the specification, the area tree XML is much easier to
 read.
 
 If you look into our layout engine test suite
 (test/layoutengine/standard-testcases), you'll find a lot of examples of
 what is expected in the area tree for various situations.
 
 HTH
 
 On 25.08.2009 16:26:29 TomWilcox wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 
 
 I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each of
 the
 different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression
 dimension?), etc. 
 
 It would be really good to have a definitive description of the meaning
 and
 function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I have
 been
 searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that
 completely satisfies this requirement.
 
 Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough
 documentation
 of the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an
 explanation of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a
 given
 block from an IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda? and
 bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).
 
 I am very grateful for any assistance.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Tom
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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread TomWilcox

Hi Jeremias and Georg,

Thanks very much. That's really helpful and at least good to know that no
proper documentation exists. 

I have taken the liberty of starting a wiki to share this information whilst
I attempt to accumulate more info about the IF tree. If anyone would like to
contribute please do. It would be great to produce something of use to
anyone else with similar needs.

I have added the information that you have both provided me to the wiki page
(and cited you both as contributors) please let me know if this is not OK
and feel free to edit.

http://fop-if-tree.wikispaces.com/

Thanks,
Tom



Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
 
 There's no formal documentation of the area tree XML format to date. It
 is something very very few people need to use and the whole thing grew
 organically over time, so documentation wasn't a top priority. A
 contribution in this direction would be highly welcome. I'm happy to
 fill in any blanks if such a documentation is started. I don't have time
 to write the whole thing myself in the short term.
 
 bpd = block-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
(= height for lr-tb script)
 bpda = allocated bpd = content bpd + spaces + borders + padding
 
 ipd = inline-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
(= width for lr-tb script)
 ipda = allocated ipd = content ipd  + spaces + borders + padding
 
 Units are millipoints (1000ths of a point) as used in most of FOP (most
 notably the layout engine).
 
 Please note that our area tree is relatively close to the conceptual
 area tree (with its traits) described in the XSL specification. If you
 know a bit of the specification, the area tree XML is much easier to
 read.
 
 If you look into our layout engine test suite
 (test/layoutengine/standard-testcases), you'll find a lot of examples of
 what is expected in the area tree for various situations.
 
 HTH
 
 On 25.08.2009 16:26:29 TomWilcox wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 
 
 I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each of
 the
 different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression
 dimension?), etc. 
 
 It would be really good to have a definitive description of the meaning
 and
 function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I have
 been
 searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that
 completely satisfies this requirement.
 
 Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough
 documentation
 of the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an
 explanation of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a
 given
 block from an IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda? and
 bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).
 
 I am very grateful for any assistance.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Tom
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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Tom, that's great, but why don't you just use our main Wiki?
http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/

Another request: Please call this area tree XML rather than intermediate
format. Yes, we called it that in the past but we have two intermediate
formats now, so it's necessary to keep the two apart.

On 25.08.2009 17:43:16 TomWilcox wrote:
 
 Hi Jeremias and Georg,
 
 Thanks very much. That's really helpful and at least good to know that no
 proper documentation exists. 
 
 I have taken the liberty of starting a wiki to share this information whilst
 I attempt to accumulate more info about the IF tree. If anyone would like to
 contribute please do. It would be great to produce something of use to
 anyone else with similar needs.
 
 I have added the information that you have both provided me to the wiki page
 (and cited you both as contributors) please let me know if this is not OK
 and feel free to edit.
 
 http://fop-if-tree.wikispaces.com/
 
 Thanks,
 Tom
 
 
 
 Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
  
  There's no formal documentation of the area tree XML format to date. It
  is something very very few people need to use and the whole thing grew
  organically over time, so documentation wasn't a top priority. A
  contribution in this direction would be highly welcome. I'm happy to
  fill in any blanks if such a documentation is started. I don't have time
  to write the whole thing myself in the short term.
  
  bpd = block-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
 (= height for lr-tb script)
  bpda = allocated bpd = content bpd + spaces + borders + padding
  
  ipd = inline-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
 (= width for lr-tb script)
  ipda = allocated ipd = content ipd  + spaces + borders + padding
  
  Units are millipoints (1000ths of a point) as used in most of FOP (most
  notably the layout engine).
  
  Please note that our area tree is relatively close to the conceptual
  area tree (with its traits) described in the XSL specification. If you
  know a bit of the specification, the area tree XML is much easier to
  read.
  
  If you look into our layout engine test suite
  (test/layoutengine/standard-testcases), you'll find a lot of examples of
  what is expected in the area tree for various situations.
  
  HTH
  
  On 25.08.2009 16:26:29 TomWilcox wrote:
  
  Hi Guys,
  
  Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 
  
  I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each of
  the
  different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression
  dimension?), etc. 
  
  It would be really good to have a definitive description of the meaning
  and
  function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I have
  been
  searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that
  completely satisfies this requirement.
  
  Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough
  documentation
  of the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an
  explanation of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a
  given
  block from an IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda? and
  bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).
  
  I am very grateful for any assistance.
  
  Thanks in advance,
  Tom
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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread TomWilcox

OK Can do..




Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
 
 Tom, that's great, but why don't you just use our main Wiki?
 http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/
 
 Another request: Please call this area tree XML rather than intermediate
 format. Yes, we called it that in the past but we have two intermediate
 formats now, so it's necessary to keep the two apart.
 
 On 25.08.2009 17:43:16 TomWilcox wrote:
 
 Hi Jeremias and Georg,
 
 Thanks very much. That's really helpful and at least good to know that no
 proper documentation exists. 
 
 I have taken the liberty of starting a wiki to share this information
 whilst
 I attempt to accumulate more info about the IF tree. If anyone would like
 to
 contribute please do. It would be great to produce something of use to
 anyone else with similar needs.
 
 I have added the information that you have both provided me to the wiki
 page
 (and cited you both as contributors) please let me know if this is not OK
 and feel free to edit.
 
 http://fop-if-tree.wikispaces.com/
 
 Thanks,
 Tom
 
 
 
 Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
  
  There's no formal documentation of the area tree XML format to date. It
  is something very very few people need to use and the whole thing grew
  organically over time, so documentation wasn't a top priority. A
  contribution in this direction would be highly welcome. I'm happy to
  fill in any blanks if such a documentation is started. I don't have
 time
  to write the whole thing myself in the short term.
  
  bpd = block-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
 (= height for lr-tb script)
  bpda = allocated bpd = content bpd + spaces + borders + padding
  
  ipd = inline-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
 (= width for lr-tb script)
  ipda = allocated ipd = content ipd  + spaces + borders + padding
  
  Units are millipoints (1000ths of a point) as used in most of FOP (most
  notably the layout engine).
  
  Please note that our area tree is relatively close to the conceptual
  area tree (with its traits) described in the XSL specification. If you
  know a bit of the specification, the area tree XML is much easier to
  read.
  
  If you look into our layout engine test suite
  (test/layoutengine/standard-testcases), you'll find a lot of examples
 of
  what is expected in the area tree for various situations.
  
  HTH
  
  On 25.08.2009 16:26:29 TomWilcox wrote:
  
  Hi Guys,
  
  Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 
  
  I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each
 of
  the
  different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression
  dimension?), etc. 
  
  It would be really good to have a definitive description of the
 meaning
  and
  function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I
 have
  been
  searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that
  completely satisfies this requirement.
  
  Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough
  documentation
  of the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an
  explanation of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a
  given
  block from an IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda?
 and
  bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).
  
  I am very grateful for any assistance.
  
  Thanks in advance,
  Tom
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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Area Tree Handling

2009-08-25 Thread TomWilcox

Alright Jeremias I have created a page for the AT XML Documentation on the
FOP wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/AreaTreeXMLDocumentation

I have taken the liberty of adding a link to it on the main page to
encourage awareness..

Thanks for your help.

Tom




Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
 
 Tom, that's great, but why don't you just use our main Wiki?
 http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/
 
 Another request: Please call this area tree XML rather than intermediate
 format. Yes, we called it that in the past but we have two intermediate
 formats now, so it's necessary to keep the two apart.
 
 On 25.08.2009 17:43:16 TomWilcox wrote:
 
 Hi Jeremias and Georg,
 
 Thanks very much. That's really helpful and at least good to know that no
 proper documentation exists. 
 
 I have taken the liberty of starting a wiki to share this information
 whilst
 I attempt to accumulate more info about the IF tree. If anyone would like
 to
 contribute please do. It would be great to produce something of use to
 anyone else with similar needs.
 
 I have added the information that you have both provided me to the wiki
 page
 (and cited you both as contributors) please let me know if this is not OK
 and feel free to edit.
 
 http://fop-if-tree.wikispaces.com/
 
 Thanks,
 Tom
 
 
 
 Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote:
  
  There's no formal documentation of the area tree XML format to date. It
  is something very very few people need to use and the whole thing grew
  organically over time, so documentation wasn't a top priority. A
  contribution in this direction would be highly welcome. I'm happy to
  fill in any blanks if such a documentation is started. I don't have
 time
  to write the whole thing myself in the short term.
  
  bpd = block-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
 (= height for lr-tb script)
  bpda = allocated bpd = content bpd + spaces + borders + padding
  
  ipd = inline-progression-dimension of the content rectangle of the area
 (= width for lr-tb script)
  ipda = allocated ipd = content ipd  + spaces + borders + padding
  
  Units are millipoints (1000ths of a point) as used in most of FOP (most
  notably the layout engine).
  
  Please note that our area tree is relatively close to the conceptual
  area tree (with its traits) described in the XSL specification. If you
  know a bit of the specification, the area tree XML is much easier to
  read.
  
  If you look into our layout engine test suite
  (test/layoutengine/standard-testcases), you'll find a lot of examples
 of
  what is expected in the area tree for various situations.
  
  HTH
  
  On 25.08.2009 16:26:29 TomWilcox wrote:
  
  Hi Guys,
  
  Sorry to return your attention to this aging thread! 
  
  I am knee deep in IF and I have a been attempting to divine what each
 of
  the
  different node attributes represent such as bpd (block progression
  dimension?), etc. 
  
  It would be really good to have a definitive description of the
 meaning
  and
  function of each of the attribute (and nodes) in an IF document. I
 have
  been
  searching diligently however I have failed to find any document that
  completely satisfies this requirement.
  
  Would be possible for you provide me with a link to a thorough
  documentation
  of the IF format or, if not, perhaps you might be able to provide an
  explanation of the attributes important for reading the dimension of a
  given
  block from an IF document (I think position is bpd, ipd, .. but ipda?
 and
  bpda?) and what are the units (millipoints?).
  
  I am very grateful for any assistance.
  
  Thanks in advance,
  Tom
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Re: keep is not auto but context is

2009-08-25 Thread Andreas Delmelle

On 25 Aug 2009, at 12:22, Vincent Hennebert wrote:



Keeps do /not/ apply to fo:table-cell:
http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl11/#fo_table-cell
snip /
So whatever that warning means, it is not related to tables.


OK, so I guess it's just a coincidence that the warning appears only  
in table-related tests... Will look into it --sometime ;-)


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Fwd: Love Apache? Give Back with a MyApache Shoutout!

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Issue with table border in afp when reference orientation is mentioned for a fo:block-container

2009-08-25 Thread Tecra

Hello Everybody,

Can any one guide me how to fix this issue. when i use table border for a
table in fo. It displays fine when using it normally but in afp when you try
to rotate the table say 90 degrees the border-color is applying for the
whole cell and i could'nt see anything.

Did anyone faced this kind of problem? 

Please let me know if you have any solution how to fix this.

Thanks,
Bharat.
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