Re: fop not handling svn rotated text on linux
We're beating each other up. I've moved forward to 1.0 for this problem. I can't seem to get my logger setup properly. I have these in my original log4j.properties file log4j.logger.org.apache.fop=ERROR log4j.logger.org.apache.xmlgraphics=ERROR I've changed them both to DEBUG, but only the xmlgraphics gets any noisier? On 07/07/2011 12:55 PM, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > On 07 Jul 2011, at 20:01, Rob Sargent wrote: > > Hi Rob > >> First off, thanks for your persistence in this matter. > No problem. > >> I do not see the 'DEBUB - FontInfo ... replacing ...' line (nor the >> others you mention) but this is likely a symptom of the setting of my >> log level. Let me try to address that first. > Or... Oh boy, how could I miss that?! I had to go back a step and look at the > very first words of the initial post. You said you were using 0.95, and > font-substitution was not yet implemented then. > > Apologies for the confusion if that is the reason it is missing from the log. > > In that case, the only resort may indeed be to register explicit triplets per > renderer, mapping the Helvetica family to the appropriate TTF files. Should > be possible with 0.95, I believe, since it is actually required for PDF/A > which was already in that release. > > The key then remains to find out _exactly_ which font is selected on your > system to substitute Helvetica. As I hinted, it should be one with a narrower > 'J', which explains the visual effect. > > > Regards > > Andreas > --- > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: fop not handling svn rotated text on linux
On 07 Jul 2011, at 20:01, Rob Sargent wrote: Hi Rob > First off, thanks for your persistence in this matter. No problem. > I do not see the 'DEBUB - FontInfo ... replacing ...' line (nor the > others you mention) but this is likely a symptom of the setting of my > log level. Let me try to address that first. Or... Oh boy, how could I miss that?! I had to go back a step and look at the very first words of the initial post. You said you were using 0.95, and font-substitution was not yet implemented then. Apologies for the confusion if that is the reason it is missing from the log. In that case, the only resort may indeed be to register explicit triplets per renderer, mapping the Helvetica family to the appropriate TTF files. Should be possible with 0.95, I believe, since it is actually required for PDF/A which was already in that release. The key then remains to find out _exactly_ which font is selected on your system to substitute Helvetica. As I hinted, it should be one with a narrower 'J', which explains the visual effect. Regards Andreas --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: fop not handling svn rotated text on linux
Andreas, First off, thanks for your persistence in this matter. I do not see the 'DEBUB - FontInfo ... replacing ...' line (nor the others you mention) but this is likely a symptom of the setting of my log level. Let me try to address that first. I'm perhaps erroneously confident in my fop set since I am getting other locally defined fonts in other parts of our system. rjs On 07/07/2011 11:45 AM, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > On 07 Jul 2011, at 19:07, Rob Sargent wrote: > > Hi Rob > >> My mistake. A rash assumption that the example was simply glossing over the >> renderer specific stuff. (Seemed reasonable to me that one might want >> different fonts in different renderers) >> >> I now have the following (partial) config. file and am still not getting a >> clean "Joint". > > > OK, that looks good. > >> and I have confirmed that the font files are in my distribution. >> >> The only message I get from the FOP run is: >> [Fop100Stage] [Print Preview Thread] [2011-07-07 10:58:27,161] DEBUG - >> Looking for hyph jar: /fop/fop100/fop/lib/fop-hyph.jar!/hyph/ >> >> [FOP] [Print Preview Thread] [2011-07-07 10:58:27,161] DEBUG - >> target-resolution set to: 72.0dpi (px2mm=0.3528) >> >> where the first message confirms for me that I'm getting the correct fop >> version. > Provided that this is the config file that is used, you should then see, a > bit further down, something like > > ... > DEBUG - FontInfo - Helvetica,normal,400: Replacing Helvetica (priority=0) by > FreeSans (priority=0) > ... > > Do you see a reference like that? If yes, do you also see the "FreeSans" font > being registered a bit higher up? If not, that could mean either of: > - a different config is actually used at runtime > - the FreeSans font failed to load properly > - the FreeSans font is still not the one that Java AWT falls back on for > Helvetica, so the metrics still don't match > > As for the latter, the key is that via the config you _can_ make FOP follow > suit, but you really need to make sure that it _is_ the FreeSans font that is > used by Batik. > Does that font have a narrower 'J' glyph than standard Helvetica? It doesn't > seem so, from what I can tell... > > > Regards > > Andreas > --- > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: fop not handling svn rotated text on linux
On 07 Jul 2011, at 19:07, Rob Sargent wrote: Hi Rob > My mistake. A rash assumption that the example was simply glossing over the > renderer specific stuff. (Seemed reasonable to me that one might want > different fonts in different renderers) > > I now have the following (partial) config. file and am still not getting a > clean "Joint". OK, that looks good. > and I have confirmed that the font files are in my distribution. > > The only message I get from the FOP run is: > [Fop100Stage] [Print Preview Thread] [2011-07-07 10:58:27,161] DEBUG - > Looking for hyph jar: /fop/fop100/fop/lib/fop-hyph.jar!/hyph/ > > [FOP] [Print Preview Thread] [2011-07-07 10:58:27,161] DEBUG - > target-resolution set to: 72.0dpi (px2mm=0.3528) > > where the first message confirms for me that I'm getting the correct fop > version. Provided that this is the config file that is used, you should then see, a bit further down, something like ... DEBUG - FontInfo - Helvetica,normal,400: Replacing Helvetica (priority=0) by FreeSans (priority=0) ... Do you see a reference like that? If yes, do you also see the "FreeSans" font being registered a bit higher up? If not, that could mean either of: - a different config is actually used at runtime - the FreeSans font failed to load properly - the FreeSans font is still not the one that Java AWT falls back on for Helvetica, so the metrics still don't match As for the latter, the key is that via the config you _can_ make FOP follow suit, but you really need to make sure that it _is_ the FreeSans font that is used by Batik. Does that font have a narrower 'J' glyph than standard Helvetica? It doesn't seem so, from what I can tell... Regards Andreas --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: fop not handling svn rotated text on linux
My mistake. A rash assumption that the example was simply glossing over the renderer specific stuff. (Seemed reasonable to me that one might want different fonts in different renderers) I now have the following (partial) config. file and am still not getting a clean "Joint". . . flate and I have confirmed that the font files are in my distribution. The only message I get from the FOP run is: [Fop100Stage] [Print Preview Thread] [2011-07-07 10:58:27,161] DEBUG - Looking for hyph jar: /fop/fop100/fop/lib/fop-hyph.jar!/hyph/ [FOP] [Print Preview Thread] [2011-07-07 10:58:27,161] DEBUG - target-resolution set to: 72.0dpi (px2mm=0.3528) where the first message confirms for me that I'm getting the correct fop version. Sorry to be so obtuse on this but I just can't seem to make this behave nicely. On 07/07/2011 09:37 AM, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > On 07 Jul 2011, at 16:36, Rob Sargent wrote: > > Hi Rob > > >> Unfortunately I've had no luck with a substitution block in my fop >> config file _comme ca_: >> >> >> >> >> >>flate >> >> >> >> > Sorry if I did not make that clearer, but this is the wrong place. The > substitutions block is applies to all renderers and should go into a fonts > element that is a direct child of the root of the config file. See also the > example on the page (link sent earlier). > > > HTH! > > Andreas > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org >
pdftops eps font issue
I'm creating a pdf with Apache FOP in Linux then I need to convert the pdf it into an eps. I'm trying lot of ways, the only one that seems works is the pdftops. But, when I convert it into Linux in command line pdftops file.pdf -eps file.eps This command creates me the eps but when I try to open it in Adobe Illustrator in Windows XP It returns me the error EAAFD+HelveticaNeueLTStd-MdCnO_99-Identify-H; Font not found on the system; missing font has been substituted. But 1: the fonts han not been substituted 2: the eps do not show words inside it is all blank instead of the images I'm sure that in Windows XP I have all the fonts becouse if I convert the pdf to an eps inside the Adobe Illustrator all works fine and Adobe Illustrator do not show me the fonts issue. Can you help me? What I'm doing wrong? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/pdftops-eps-font-issue-tp32014501p32014501.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: fop not handling svn rotated text on linux
On 07 Jul 2011, at 16:36, Rob Sargent wrote: Hi Rob > Unfortunately I've had no luck with a substitution block in my fop > config file _comme ca_: > > > > > >flate > > > > Sorry if I did not make that clearer, but this is the wrong place. The substitutions block is applies to all renderers and should go into a fonts element that is a direct child of the root of the config file. See also the example on the page (link sent earlier). HTH! Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: fop not handling svn rotated text on linux
I have to drop this for a bit: We've just release new software and we all know how much fun that is... Unfortunately I've had no luck with a substitution block in my fop config file _comme ca_: flate where my svg file calls for Helvetica and I have placed the FreeSans*.ttf and corresponding xml files (self generated locally using org.apache.fop.fonts.apps.TTFReader) in my listed fonts and in the jar. I'll try to pick this up again when thing settle down here, rjs On 07/04/2011 04:44 PM, Rob Sargent wrote: > > > Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: >> On 01 Jul 2011, at 18:20, Rob Sargent wrote: >> >> Hi Rob >> >> >> >>> I'm coming to the conclusion that to guarantee all platforms use the >>> same font I must include it in the distribution of the client. As I've >>> said, we're already including non-standard fonts (e.g. Optima), but my >>> naive assumption that, since it's part and parcel of PDF, simply naming >>> Helvetica was enough is clearly wrong. >>> >> >> Given the fact that (a substitute for) Helvetica may not be available >> (or just is slightly different) on the client... It is not entirely >> true that it's "part and parcel" of PDF. The PDF Specification states >> only that viewer applications can assume the Base14 fonts to always >> be available, so as not to force said viewers to include them in the >> application package. >> Not necessarily naive, but you're just bitten by the fact that, at >> the end of the day, there simply is no such thing as true >> platform-independency, especially where it concerns interoperability >> between two basically separate Java apps. Some things depend on the >> implementation of the Java runtime and the actual configuration of >> the OS it runs on. >> >> Assuming that you know which font is actually selected by the JVM/OS, >> then you could try creating a substitution mapping in FOP's config, >> like: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > This give me some hope, thanks. >> see: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.0/fonts.html#substitution >> >> That will force FOP to use the metrics for that font, rather than the >> default Base14 Helvetica (also for your FO, so there will be >> consistency, if that is what you are looking for). Incidentally, >> trying to use literal "SansSerif" in SVG triggered the same issue on >> OS X. The reason is that, for the Apple JVM "SansSerif" is an alias >> for "Lucida Grande". >> I can confirm that I see change when adding a mapping such as above, >> however, the appropriate font-file cannot be parsed by FOP currently... >> Still, you might be able to resolve it this way on your end. >> >> >>> Now can I just use the truetype >>> arial which _is_ on my box (but does not rectify the current situation) >>> and would presumably be what the pc users are getting. Or am I better >>> off getting a commercial truetype Helvetica? >>> >> >> That depends on what you want to do with it. Keep in mind that buying >> the Helvetica font would only grant you personal use. It comes >> pre-installed on most common systems, but that license does not >> permit the user-developers to just include it in their own projects. >> That is very likely precisely the reason why it is left out of Linux, >> as a matter of principle. >> What when you happen to run into a colleague that has the same issue? >> He/she should then have to buy it as well. If the vendor gets wind of >> you redistributing the font in your own software, or just copying it >> to multiple clients within your organization, he may not like it, and >> force you to pay more. There is a reason FOP can only redistribute >> the *metrics* for the Base14 fonts, not the fonts themselves. >> Since you're already including other fonts, in case you have not done >> so yet, be sure to check for those as well whether or not you are >> permitted to include them. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Andreas >> --- >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
