Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I am sure this is just me doing something really dumb, but I have noticed it 
quite a few times. My files in my booked publications OCCASIONALLY change 
their order. They usually move one or two places. The files are not problem 
files.

Is the Save book option doing its job properly, or should I save all open 
files? How can I firm up the order.

The first indication is that the changed pagination warning comes up when 
updating the indexes. When I ignore this and subsequently save and exit, I 
get the same pagination warnings when I reopen.

I am using the latest FM 7.2 with the p157 updates on an IBM PC XP with all 
updates SE.

Robert C.-H. Shell


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Re: Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread FeiMin_Lorente
Hi Rob:

I've had the same problem but it's because when I open a file by 
double-clicking on it, I accidentally move the mouse and drag it below the 
following file. It doesn't take more than a little movement sometimes. 
It's not clear to me whether the same thing is happening to you; are they 
only shifting when you save the book?

I have the same version of FrameMaker and the same operating system as 
you.

Fei Min

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INDEX for large MIL-SPEC manuals

2008-03-04 Thread Harold Winberg
Hello Framers

 

I have been taxed to become the INDEX Guru for large military
maintenance manuals.

 

The manuals are for armored MRAP vehicles and contain remove, install,
inspect and have a lot of graphics.

 

The manuals are based MIL-STD-40051-2.

 

I will research the MIL STD, DoD and logistics resources.

 

I would really appreciate any suggestions, ideas or examples about these
kinds of indexes.

 

Is there a super plug-in? I have heard of IXgen.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Les Winberg

 

 

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RE: INDEX for large MIL-SPEC manuals

2008-03-04 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
Harold,
I would strongly recommend IXgen for creating and maintaining your
index.
We have used it here for a number of years and are very happy with it.

Regards,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.. USA

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Subject: INDEX for large MIL-SPEC manuals

Hello Framers

 

I have been taxed to become the INDEX Guru for large military
maintenance manuals.
The manuals are for armored MRAP vehicles and contain remove, install,
inspect and have a lot of graphics.

The manuals are based MIL-STD-40051-2.

I will research the MIL STD, DoD and logistics resources.

I would really appreciate any suggestions, ideas or examples about these
kinds of indexes.

Is there a super plug-in? I have heard of IXgen.

Thanks in advance.
Les Winberg

 
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Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi -

Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner message in the  
Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.

Pat Christenson
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RE: Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Pat Christenson wrote: 
 
 Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner 
 message in the Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.

Do you mean these lines? 

TableCleaner 1.7 Version loaded.
  Tools for cleaning up and formatting tables.
For more information, choose Help  TableCleaner Help or contact
  Carmen Publishing at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.frameexpert.com;

I can't imagine there would be. I can't imagine why you want to, either.
Is this your only FM plugin? At startup, I get a couple of dozen lines
written to the Console (about a quarter of them from FrameScript),
reporting the loading of various plugins. What's the harm? :-) 

Richard


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Para size in struct doc overriding char size

2008-03-04 Thread Hedley Finger

All:

I am using the DITA-FMx plugin for FrameMaker with EDDs derived from 
the DITA DTDs/schemas.

The p element has a number of context-based format rules that 
specify various para formats dependent on context.  When the context 
is not specified in the format rules, it simply defaults to the Body 
format, set to 11pt Gentium Basic.

There are a number of elements that apply a char format that 
overrides the para format of the element in which they are embedded, 
e.g. when codeph is embedded in mixed content in p, the 
prog.codeph char format is supposed to override the Body para 
format.  Which it does, almost.  Except that prog.codeph is set to 
9.5 pt Lucida Sans Unicode.  The font Lucida Sans Unicode overrides 
the Gentium Basic font but the size of 9.5 pt does NOT override the size 11 pt.

So codeph within p appears at 11 pt Lucida Sans Unicode, NOT 9.5 
pt as required.  It's dead ugly, I can tell you.

The format rules for codeph simply specify the char format; there 
are no format change rules.  In the context in which the p is 
located, there are no format change rules, it simply defaults to 
Body.  So why is the char format size of 9.5 pt not being applied?

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Re: Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi Richard -

Yes, those are the lines I mean.

I have a client who wants to suppress them because that's the only  
plug-in they use and they don't want people to get in the habit of  
automatically dismissing or ignoring console messages.

Pat

On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Combs, Richard wrote:

 Pat Christenson wrote:

 Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner
 message in the Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.

 Do you mean these lines?

 TableCleaner 1.7 Version loaded.
   Tools for cleaning up and formatting tables.
 For more information, choose Help  TableCleaner Help or contact
   Carmen Publishing at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.frameexpert.com;

 I can't imagine there would be. I can't imagine why you want to,  
 either.
 Is this your only FM plugin? At startup, I get a couple of dozen lines
 written to the Console (about a quarter of them from FrameScript),
 reporting the loading of various plugins. What's the harm? :-)

 Richard


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Re: Suppress TableCleaner message in Console? - SOLVED

2008-03-04 Thread Pat Christenson
Rick Quatro (the maker of Table Cleaner) has contacted me with the  
instructions.

Pat
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Re: Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Stuart Rogers
Combs, Richard wrote:
 Pat Christenson wrote: 
  
 Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner 
 message in the Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.
 
 Do you mean these lines? 
 
 TableCleaner 1.7 Version loaded.
   Tools for cleaning up and formatting tables.
 For more information, choose Help  TableCleaner Help or contact
   Carmen Publishing at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.frameexpert.com;
 
 I can't imagine there would be. I can't imagine why you want to, either.
 Is this your only FM plugin? At startup, I get a couple of dozen lines
 written to the Console (about a quarter of them from FrameScript),
 reporting the loading of various plugins. What's the harm? :-) 
 

Probably the main harm is that it brings the console to the front, when 
you'd rather have the main window active.

The setprint plug-in, free from Sundorne http://tinyurl.com/3dof3m
not only sets your default printer within FM differently from your 
Windows default printer (e.g., to the Adobe PDF instance), it also puts 
the console window in the background.  Adding this plug-in might solve 
the issue, even if the setprint function isn't used.

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RE: Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Stuart Rogers wrote: 

 Probably the main harm is that it brings the console to the 
 front, when you'd rather have the main window active.
 
 The setprint plug-in, free from Sundorne 
 http://tinyurl.com/3dof3m not only sets your default printer 
 within FM differently from your Windows default printer 
 (e.g., to the Adobe PDF instance), it also puts the console 
 window in the background.  Adding this plug-in might solve 
 the issue, even if the setprint function isn't used.

Hmm, the Console doesn't come to the front for me. Of course, I'm still
using FM 6. Maybe giving the Console window focus is an enhancement in
newer versions? Or maybe one of my many plugins does what the setprint
plugin does? 

(BTW, thanks for the reminder about that -- I meant to add it to my
collection, but forgot.) 

Richard 


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Re: Framers Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3

2008-03-04 Thread meg miranda
Mollye,

Check your character styles. And triple check the x-ref styles in both docs.

Not exactly the same issue but i did have some character style mismatch one 
time which caused my x-refs to format badly.

Outside of that I'd be happy to look at the files to help you fix it. ([EMAIL 
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Paul,

My results are different/vary (ugh)...
- When I double-click and select Update, the x-refs completely disappear.
- When I double-click, go to Settings and select Retain Source's
Formatting, the x-refs reappear.
- Then, when I double-click, select Update, the x-refs persist.

I need a bullet-proof way to update the insets globally with formatting
from the container doc.

Thanks for the thoughts though!

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Re: Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Rob

I was building a heap of files into a large book today, and saw some of the 
files go out of order in the book. Mostly I'd have just assumed I'd carelessly 
dragged them, but your email prompted me to look a bit more closely.

FM7.0, fully patched, XP SP 2.

I found that I can reliably make a file move within today's book by renaming 
another file in the book, from the book window. If I rename something and end 
the renaming by pressing the Enter key, all is well. But if I end the renaming 
by clicking on another filename in the book, the file I clicked on moves within 
the book, at the end of FM's rename and save process. The file I renamed stays 
in place. Weird. And very annoying - my instinct is to end the renaming by 
clicking somewhere.

Even more annoying, I tried it on a 4-file book and it didn't happen. So it's 
reproducable within my 54-file book, but not within the shorter one.  I'm still 
calling it a bug.

Cheers, Rebecca


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Hi Rob:

I've had the same problem but it's because when I open a file by 
double-clicking on it, I accidentally move the mouse and drag it below the 
following file. It doesn't take more than a little movement sometimes. 
It's not clear to me whether the same thing is happening to you; are they 
only shifting when you save the book?

I have the same version of FrameMaker and the same operating system as 
you.

Fei Min

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Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I am sure this is just me doing something really dumb, but I have noticed it 
quite a few times. My files in my booked publications OCCASIONALLY change 
their order. They usually move one or two places. The files are not problem 
files.

Is the "Save book" option doing its job properly, or should I save all open 
files? How can I firm up the order.

The first indication is that the "changed pagination" warning comes up when 
updating the indexes. When I ignore this and subsequently save and exit, I 
get the same pagination warnings when I reopen.

I am using the latest FM 7.2 with the p157 updates on an IBM PC XP with all 
updates SE.

Robert C.-H. Shell




PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue

2008-03-04 Thread Richard Doll
Why is the color within ".pdf" files containing ".eps" objects totally 
ravaged by the Windows RGB GDI upon "Import>File".
Upon "Print" for output, black and grayscale images yield some % of yellow 
and Pantone SPOT is no longer accurately definable by any pre-press software 
"PDF to printing-plate system".

Adobe does own the copyrights to all the applications involved with this 
issue.
Can you divine a wholly complete solution within FrameMaker other than "Tech 
Note" ID 324220 
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=324220 which in a 
name is a "kluge"

What could induce the creators of the software that provides us livelihood 
and compensation, to have this seemingly small issue resolved?
So . . . it isn't a small issue . . .  Adobe isn't a small corporation 
either.
Adobe has denied access to CMYK GDI OS hardware/applications while denying 
RGB GDI OS hardware/applications to correctly interpret color for printing.

My customers are depending on color to help market their products.
What path do you suggest that I take to enable them in reaching their goals.

Adobe is depending on their customers to sell their products.
Come-on Adobe guys and gals . . . suck it up and make FrameMaker colorful 
and happy!

I am a Windows XP user of  MSWord,Excel,VisBasic,etc,
AdobeFrameMaker,InDesign,PShop,Illust AcroPro,etc,
My thanks to Grafikhuset Publi PDF and Ghostscript. for 6 years of enableing 
the solution of  all the color issues
except for this one of  IMPORTING PDF INTO FrameMaker.

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 




cross references in text insets

2008-03-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Mollye Barrett wrote:

> My results are different/vary (ugh)...
> - When I double-click and select Update, the x-refs 
> completely disappear.
> - When I double-click, go to Settings and select Retain 
> Source's Formatting, the x-refs reappear.
> - Then, when I double-click, select Update, the x-refs persist.

When you say "the x-refs completely disappear," do you mean the visual
cues (blue color and underline, or whatever) are gone? Maybe the
container document is missing the character tag that applies that
formatting, or maybe the char tag exists, but is defined wrong. Or maybe
the x-ref definition in the container document doesn't include that char
tag. For instance, if the char tag is named Xref, maybe in the text
inset source doc, the x-ref format is defined as "<$paranum>," and
in the container it's defined simply as "<$paranum>," or as
"<$paranum>" (to FM, Xref and xref are different char tags).

If both the x-ref formats and the char formats are the same in the text
inset source and destination, then there should be no difference between
Retain Source's Formatting and Reformat Using Current Document's
Formats. (You didn't accidentally select Reformat as Plain Text, did
you?)

One more thing: Be aware that even after you get the x-refs working
right in FM, they won't be "live" hyperlinks in PDF -- a most annoying
bug. The workaround is cumbersome, but can be scripted: just before
creating the PDF, save all files in the book. Then convert all text
insets to text, create the PDF, and close all files without saving.

HTH!
Richard


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PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue

2008-03-04 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Hi Richard,

I'd like to see:

(1) the PDF you try to deal with in FrameMaker

(2) a simple FrameMaker document that imports the PDF

(3) The physical output PDF document you have

(4) a precise description of what you expect to have as output

Please send it off-list to me as a ZIP archive.

I'll then study what goes on and report it here.

All the best
Jacob


> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Richard Doll [mailto:sgmlindy at tds.net] 
> Sendt: 4. marts 2008 17:08
> Til: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: strictlybirds at yahoo.com; Dov Isaacs; Jacob Sch?ffer
> Emne: PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue
> 
> 
> Why is the color within ".pdf" files containing ".eps" 
> objects totally 
> ravaged by the Windows RGB GDI upon "Import>File".
> Upon "Print" for output, black and grayscale images yield 
> some % of yellow 
> and Pantone SPOT is no longer accurately definable by any 
> pre-press software 
> "PDF to printing-plate system".
> 
> Adobe does own the copyrights to all the applications 
> involved with this 
> issue.
> Can you divine a wholly complete solution within FrameMaker 
> other than "Tech 
> Note" ID 324220 
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=324220
>  which in a 
> name is a "kluge"
> 
> What could induce the creators of the software that provides 
> us livelihood 
> and compensation, to have this seemingly small issue 
> resolved? So . . . it isn't a small issue . . .  Adobe isn't 
> a small corporation 
> either.
> Adobe has denied access to CMYK GDI OS hardware/applications 
> while denying 
> RGB GDI OS hardware/applications to correctly interpret color 
> for printing.
> 
> My customers are depending on color to help market their 
> products. What path do you suggest that I take to enable them 
> in reaching their goals.
> 
> Adobe is depending on their customers to sell their products. 
> Come-on Adobe guys and gals . . . suck it up and make 
> FrameMaker colorful 
> and happy!
> 
> I am a Windows XP user of  MSWord,Excel,VisBasic,etc, 
> AdobeFrameMaker,InDesign,PShop,Illust AcroPro,etc, My thanks 
> to Grafikhuset Publi PDF and Ghostscript. for 6 years of enableing 
> the solution of  all the color issues
> except for this one of  IMPORTING PDF INTO FrameMaker.
> 
> best to all,
> 
> dick doll
> 317.539.4857
> sgmlindy at tds.net 
> 
> 
> 


Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread feimin_lore...@amis.com
Hi Rob:

I've had the same problem but it's because when I open a file by 
double-clicking on it, I accidentally move the mouse and drag it below the 
following file. It doesn't take more than a little movement sometimes. 
It's not clear to me whether the same thing is happening to you; are they 
only shifting when you save the book?

I have the same version of FrameMaker and the same operating system as 
you.

Fei Min

Fei Min Lorente
Senior Technical Communicator
AMI Semiconductor Canada Company
Tel: +1.519.884.9696 ext.2297
Fax: +1.519.884.0228
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INDEX for large MIL-SPEC manuals

2008-03-04 Thread Harold Winberg
Hello Framers



I have been taxed to become the INDEX Guru for large military
maintenance manuals.



The manuals are for armored MRAP vehicles and contain remove, install,
inspect and have a lot of graphics.



The manuals are based MIL-STD-40051-2.



I will research the MIL STD, DoD and logistics resources.



I would really appreciate any suggestions, ideas or examples about these
kinds of indexes.



Is there a super plug-in? I have heard of IXgen.



Thanks in advance.



Les Winberg







INDEX for large MIL-SPEC manuals

2008-03-04 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
Harold,
I would strongly recommend IXgen for creating and maintaining your
index.
We have used it here for a number of years and are very happy with it.

Regards,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.. USA

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Winberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:08 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: INDEX for large MIL-SPEC manuals

Hello Framers



I have been taxed to become the INDEX Guru for large military
maintenance manuals.
The manuals are for armored MRAP vehicles and contain remove, install,
inspect and have a lot of graphics.

The manuals are based MIL-STD-40051-2.

I will research the MIL STD, DoD and logistics resources.

I would really appreciate any suggestions, ideas or examples about these
kinds of indexes.

Is there a super plug-in? I have heard of IXgen.

Thanks in advance.
Les Winberg




Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi -

Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner message in the  
Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.

Pat Christenson


Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Pat Christenson wrote: 

> Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner 
> message in the Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.

Do you mean these lines? 

"TableCleaner 1.7 Version loaded.
  Tools for cleaning up and formatting tables.
For more information, choose Help > TableCleaner Help or contact
  Carmen Publishing at rick at frameexpert.com
http://www.frameexpert.com;

I can't imagine there would be. I can't imagine why you want to, either.
Is this your only FM plugin? At startup, I get a couple of dozen lines
written to the Console (about a quarter of them from FrameScript),
reporting the loading of various plugins. What's the harm? :-) 

Richard


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Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi Richard -

Yes, those are the lines I mean.

I have a client who wants to suppress them because that's the only  
plug-in they use and they don't want people to get in the habit of  
automatically dismissing or ignoring console messages.

Pat

On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Combs, Richard wrote:

> Pat Christenson wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner
>> message in the Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.
>
> Do you mean these lines?
>
> "TableCleaner 1.7 Version loaded.
>   Tools for cleaning up and formatting tables.
> For more information, choose Help > TableCleaner Help or contact
>   Carmen Publishing at rick at frameexpert.com
> http://www.frameexpert.com;
>
> I can't imagine there would be. I can't imagine why you want to,  
> either.
> Is this your only FM plugin? At startup, I get a couple of dozen lines
> written to the Console (about a quarter of them from FrameScript),
> reporting the loading of various plugins. What's the harm? :-)
>
> Richard
>
>
> --
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
>
>



Suppress TableCleaner message in Console? - SOLVED

2008-03-04 Thread Pat Christenson
Rick Quatro (the maker of Table Cleaner) has contacted me with the  
instructions.

Pat


Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Stuart Rogers
Combs, Richard wrote:
> Pat Christenson wrote: 
>  
>> Does anyone know of a way to suppress the TableCleaner 
>> message in the Console when you first launch FrameMaker? Thanks.
> 
> Do you mean these lines? 
> 
> "TableCleaner 1.7 Version loaded.
>   Tools for cleaning up and formatting tables.
> For more information, choose Help > TableCleaner Help or contact
>   Carmen Publishing at rick at frameexpert.com
> http://www.frameexpert.com;
> 
> I can't imagine there would be. I can't imagine why you want to, either.
> Is this your only FM plugin? At startup, I get a couple of dozen lines
> written to the Console (about a quarter of them from FrameScript),
> reporting the loading of various plugins. What's the harm? :-) 
> 

Probably the main harm is that it brings the console to the front, when 
you'd rather have the main window active.

The setprint plug-in, free from Sundorne http://tinyurl.com/3dof3m
not only sets your default printer within FM differently from your 
Windows default printer (e.g., to the Adobe PDF instance), it also puts 
the console window in the background.  Adding this plug-in might solve 
the issue, even if the setprint function isn't used.

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development time."

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Suppress TableCleaner message in Console?

2008-03-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Stuart Rogers wrote: 

> Probably the main harm is that it brings the console to the 
> front, when you'd rather have the main window active.
> 
> The setprint plug-in, free from Sundorne 
> http://tinyurl.com/3dof3m not only sets your default printer 
> within FM differently from your Windows default printer 
> (e.g., to the Adobe PDF instance), it also puts the console 
> window in the background.  Adding this plug-in might solve 
> the issue, even if the setprint function isn't used.

Hmm, the Console doesn't come to the front for me. Of course, I'm still
using FM 6. Maybe giving the Console window focus is an "enhancement" in
newer versions? Or maybe one of my many plugins does what the setprint
plugin does? 

(BTW, thanks for the reminder about that -- I meant to add it to my
collection, but forgot.) 

Richard 


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Framers Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3

2008-03-04 Thread meg miranda
Mollye,

Check your character styles. And triple check the x-ref styles in both docs.

Not exactly the same issue but i did have some character style mismatch one 
time which caused my x-refs to format badly.

Outside of that I'd be happy to look at the files to help you fix it. 
(megmiranda at yahoo.com)

-meg


- Original Message 

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:39:10 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mollye Barrett" 
Subject: Re: cross references in text insets
To: "Paul Wilbraham" 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <38968.67.52.221.170.1204569550.squirrel at www.itobin.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Paul,

My results are different/vary (ugh)...
- When I double-click and select Update, the x-refs completely disappear.
- When I double-click, go to Settings and select Retain Source's
Formatting, the x-refs reappear.
- Then, when I double-click, select Update, the x-refs persist.

I need a bullet-proof way to update the insets globally with formatting
from the container doc.

Thanks for the thoughts though!

Mollye



  

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