RE: Help wth hyperlinks_Please

[Shlomo Perets]

Susan,

You wrote:

Reminder:  FM7  and Acrobat Distiller 5.0  on Vista Enterprise

Option 2 worked great.  But I have a question.
In that setup page there is this note  (partial excerpt):
If you always regenerate PDF after adding new links, turn this setting 
OFF. This is the recommended setting.

I regenerate the FM file to do updates and to get ready to make a new 
PDF,,, but I'm not regenerating a PDF file.

Could you please explain this for me?

I'm afraid you have to try and and approach the original author for an 
explanation of the recommendation present in the dialog box...

The more named destinations you have in a PDF, the larger the file size is. 
This setting was introduced in FM6 to help reduce the PDF file size.

When Create Named Destinations for All Pgfs is turned off , some 
cross-references and hypertext links may be non-functional in the PDF.

I much prefer a PDF where all links work as expected, even if its file size 
is larger by 20-25%.

If the file size is critical, I would recommend other ways to reduce the 
file size (including that portion related to named destinations, but not 
through FrameMaker).

Unfortunately, there is no lack of PDFs authored in FM demonstrating the 
outcome of having this option turned off, including PDFs from Adobe -- see 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0605 (109 bad links in Adobe FrameMaker 
7.2 Structure Application Developer's Guide).



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Re: OFF-TOPIC POST Digital Voice Recorders

[Lynn Durell]

Hi Gillian,

You can get a voice recorder attachment for your iPod if you have one, 
they're cheaper and smaller?

Regards,
Lynn




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I am looking to purchase a USB Digital Voice Recorder for interviewing
SME's. So I just need good voice quality for mono voice, long battery
life, long recording time and ease of transfer to my computer. What have
been your experiences with them? Any recommendations? TIA 

 

Thank you,

 

 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

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RE: Mif2Go graphics question

[Martha Lee]

Hi Jeremy et al,

I do want to use the original graphics; as you said, generating them results
in poorer quality. The wrap path and the CopyGraphicsFrom directory are not
the same; they have the same name, but are in different locations. The wrap
path is C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus. The CopyGraphics
directory is on the C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus. But if I change the
wrap directory to some other name, it doesn't solve my problem.

Changing the StripGraphPath to Yes still doesn't get my graphics into the
wrap directory. This is driving me nuts. Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

Martha

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:44 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Martha Lee
Subject: Re: Mif2Go graphics question


On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:36:49 -0400, Martha Lee
martha@coventor.com wrote:

I'm using Mif2Go to generate OmniHelp. I'm trying to copy my referenced
graphics into the distribution directory. My mif2htm.ini has these
settings:

[FDK]
WriteEquations=Yes
WriteAllGraphics=No

[Automation]
WrapAndShip=Yes
WrapPath=.\MEMSplus
ShipPath=.\MEMSplus
CopyGraphicsFrom=C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus
GraphCopyFiles= *.gif *.png

[Graphics]
UseGraphicPreviews=No
StripGraphPath=No
UseOriginalGraphicNames=Yes


The graphics are not written to the wrap directory so all the graphics are
missing from the final htm output. Any suggestions?

This setup says that you really have the .gif and .png graphics already in
existence, and they are located at C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus.
Is that correct?  That's not the *same* MEMSplus dir you are referencing
as the wrap and ship dirs, is it?  I can't tell because you didn't say
where you were running this from.  It shouldn't be, or you'd be saying
to copy them to themselves, which does nothing (and is in fact ignored,
we check for that).

Also, it's better to have the wrap and ship dirs separate.  For
OmniHelp, you typically run an ArchiveCommand to .zip the results
in wrap, and then we move that zip to ship.  Many projects can
share the same ship; it makes distribution much easier if they do.

If you actually want graphics generated (which is poorer quality, if
you already have them available), as David thinks, you'd need to set
[Graphics]UseGraphicPreviews=Yes.

Also, if you use StripGraphPath=No, and don't set a GraphPath, you
are saying to preserve the original paths from the Frame files.
Those are unlikely to work.  If you are putting the graphics in
the same dir as the HTML, you definitely want StripGraphPath=Yes.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  jer...@omsys.com  http://www.omsys.com/

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Re: OFF-TOPIC POST Digital Voice Recorders

[Art Campbell]

I've had an Olympus D2 for several years and it works great. It is a
USB device, so it's easy to move files back and forth either with
Windows or the Olympus software. Also has an external jack so you can
add a better stereo mic if you want to record music, or a shotgun mic
for picking up a distant speaker.

Before you buy, you may want to do a search for voice recognition
software packages. My Olympus was bundled by a vendor with Dragon
Naturally Speaking, and the combo has both worked very well and was
available at a discount.

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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 I am looking to purchase a USB Digital Voice Recorder for interviewing
 SME's. So I just need good voice quality for mono voice, long battery
 life, long recording time and ease of transfer to my computer. What have
 been your experiences with them? Any recommendations? TIA



 Thank you,





 Gillian Flato

 Technical Writer (Software)

 nanometrics

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Re: Mif2Go graphics question

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:58:00 -0400, Martha Lee martha@coventor.com 
wrote:

I do want to use the original graphics; as you said, generating them results
in poorer quality. The wrap path and the CopyGraphicsFrom directory are not
the same; they have the same name, but are in different locations. The wrap
path is C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus. The CopyGraphics
directory is on the C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus. But if I change the
wrap directory to some other name, it doesn't solve my problem.

No, I wouldn't expect it to, since they are different actual locations.

Changing the StripGraphPath to Yes still doesn't get my graphics into the
wrap directory. 

That was so that the HTML files could see them if they were there.  If
the original path were preserved, they would be looking elsewhere.

This is driving me nuts. Any other suggestions?

The next thing I'd do to diagnose is open a Command Prompt window,
enter the commands we use by hand, and see if any problem appears:

cd C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus
copy /Y C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.jpg
copy /Y C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.gif

See if the files are really copied this time.  If not, the path
is wrong.  But I suspect they will be copied.  When we do the 
copy, we add one more part, the destination path, to each copy:

  C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus

Why would that be a problem?  Because + has a meaning to the
copy command, and will make the whole line mean something else.
That is why you should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use any characters
in a file or path name other than letters and digits...

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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RE: Remote Desktop and FrameMaker

[Catherine Woods]

I was using FrameMaker with remote desktop today. It was fine as far as I
could tell.

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Cc: Dressner, Elizabeth
Subject: Remote Desktop and FrameMaker

Hi--

Does anyone know if FrameMaker works with Remote Desktop? I have this set up
and I find that several files I work with blow up. I do not have this
problem on other configurations, that is, not using Remote Desktop. I am on
FrameMaker 7.2.

Any help is appreciated!

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Help wth hyperlinks_Please

[Shlomo Perets]

Susan,

You wrote:

>Reminder:  FM7  and Acrobat Distiller 5.0  on Vista Enterprise
>
>Option 2 worked great.  But I have a question.
>In that setup page there is this note  (partial excerpt):
>If you always regenerate PDF after adding new links, turn this setting 
>OFF. This is the recommended setting.
>
>I regenerate the FM file to do updates and to get ready to make a new 
>PDF,,, but I'm not regenerating a PDF file.
>
>Could you please explain this for me?

I'm afraid you have to try and and approach the original author for an 
explanation of the recommendation present in the dialog box...

The more named destinations you have in a PDF, the larger the file size is. 
This setting was introduced in FM6 to help reduce the PDF file size.

When "Create Named Destinations for All Pgfs" is turned off , some 
cross-references and hypertext links may be non-functional in the PDF.

I much prefer a PDF where all links work as expected, even if its file size 
is larger by 20-25%.

If the file size is critical, I would recommend other ways to reduce the 
file size (including that portion related to named destinations, but not 
through FrameMaker).

Unfortunately, there is no lack of PDFs authored in FM demonstrating the 
outcome of having this option turned off, including PDFs from Adobe -- see 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0605 (109 bad links in Adobe FrameMaker 
7.2 "Structure Application Developer's Guide").



Shlomo Perets

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OFF-TOPIC POST Digital Voice Recorders

[Lynn Durell]

Hi Gillian,

You can get a voice recorder attachment for your iPod if you have one, 
they're cheaper and smaller?

Regards,
Lynn




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Subject
OFF-TOPIC POST Digital Voice Recorders






I am looking to purchase a USB Digital Voice Recorder for interviewing
SME's. So I just need good voice quality for mono voice, long battery
life, long recording time and ease of transfer to my computer. What have
been your experiences with them? Any recommendations? TIA 



Thank you,





Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

*408.545.6316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics.com  



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Mif2Go graphics question

[Martha Lee]

Hi Jeremy et al,

I do want to use the original graphics; as you said, generating them results
in poorer quality. The wrap path and the CopyGraphicsFrom directory are not
the same; they have the same name, but are in different locations. The wrap
path is C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus. The CopyGraphics
directory is on the C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus. But if I change the
wrap directory to some other name, it doesn't solve my problem.

Changing the StripGraphPath to Yes still doesn't get my graphics into the
wrap directory. This is driving me nuts. Any other suggestions?

Thanks.

Martha

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:44 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Martha Lee
Subject: Re: Mif2Go graphics question


On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:36:49 -0400, "Martha Lee"
 wrote:

>I'm using Mif2Go to generate OmniHelp. I'm trying to copy my referenced
>graphics into the distribution directory. My mif2htm.ini has these
settings:
>
>[FDK]
>WriteEquations=Yes
>WriteAllGraphics=No
>
>[Automation]
>WrapAndShip=Yes
>WrapPath=.\MEMSplus
>ShipPath=.\MEMSplus
>CopyGraphicsFrom=C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus
>GraphCopyFiles= *.gif *.png
>
>[Graphics]
>UseGraphicPreviews=No
>StripGraphPath=No
>UseOriginalGraphicNames=Yes
>
>
>The graphics are not written to the wrap directory so all the graphics are
>missing from the final htm output. Any suggestions?

This setup says that you really have the .gif and .png graphics already in
existence, and they are located at C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus.
Is that correct?  That's not the *same* MEMSplus dir you are referencing
as the wrap and ship dirs, is it?  I can't tell because you didn't say
where you were running this from.  It shouldn't be, or you'd be saying
to copy them to themselves, which does nothing (and is in fact ignored,
we check for that).

Also, it's better to have the wrap and ship dirs separate.  For
OmniHelp, you typically run an ArchiveCommand to .zip the results
in wrap, and then we move that zip to ship.  Many projects can
share the same ship; it makes distribution much easier if they do.

If you actually want graphics generated (which is poorer quality, if
you already have them available), as David thinks, you'd need to set
[Graphics]UseGraphicPreviews=Yes.

Also, if you use StripGraphPath=No, and don't set a GraphPath, you
are saying to preserve the original paths from the Frame files.
Those are unlikely to work.  If you are putting the graphics in
the same dir as the HTML, you definitely want StripGraphPath=Yes.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

OFF-TOPIC POST Digital Voice Recorders

[Art Campbell]

I've had an Olympus D2 for several years and it works great. It is a
USB device, so it's easy to move files back and forth either with
Windows or the Olympus software. Also has an external jack so you can
add a better stereo mic if you want to record music, or a shotgun mic
for picking up a distant speaker.

Before you buy, you may want to do a search for voice recognition
software packages. My Olympus was bundled by a vendor with Dragon
Naturally Speaking, and the combo has both worked very well and was
available at a discount.

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Flato, Gillian  
wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a USB Digital Voice Recorder for interviewing
> SME's. So I just need good voice quality for mono voice, long battery
> life, long recording time and ease of transfer to my computer. What have
> been your experiences with them? Any recommendations? TIA
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
>
>
> Gillian Flato
>
> Technical Writer (Software)
>
> nanometrics
>
> 1550 Buckeye Dr.
>
> Milpitas, CA. 95035
>
> *408.545.6316
>
> 7 ?408.232.5911
>
> * gflato at nanometrics.com 
>
>
>
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Mif2Go graphics question

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:58:00 -0400, "Martha Lee"  
wrote:

>I do want to use the original graphics; as you said, generating them results
>in poorer quality. The wrap path and the CopyGraphicsFrom directory are not
>the same; they have the same name, but are in different locations. The wrap
>path is C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus. The CopyGraphics
>directory is on the C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus. But if I change the
>wrap directory to some other name, it doesn't solve my problem.

No, I wouldn't expect it to, since they are different actual locations.

>Changing the StripGraphPath to Yes still doesn't get my graphics into the
>wrap directory. 

That was so that the HTML files could see them if they were there.  If
the original path were preserved, they would be looking elsewhere.

>This is driving me nuts. Any other suggestions?

The next thing I'd do to diagnose is open a Command Prompt window,
enter the commands we use by hand, and see if any problem appears:

cd C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus
copy /Y "C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.jpg"
copy /Y "C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMSplus\*.gif"

See if the files are really copied this time.  If not, the path
is wrong.  But I suspect they will be copied.  When we do the 
copy, we add one more part, the destination path, to each copy:

  C:\rep\documentation\trunk\MEMS+OmniHelp\MEMSplus

Why would that be a problem?  Because "+" has a meaning to the
copy command, and will make the whole line mean something else.
That is why you should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use any characters
in a file or path name other than letters and digits...

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Remote Desktop and FrameMaker

[Catherine Woods]

I was using FrameMaker with remote desktop today. It was fine as far as I
could tell.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Brabson, Michelle
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:28 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Dressner, Elizabeth
Subject: Remote Desktop and FrameMaker

Hi--

Does anyone know if FrameMaker works with Remote Desktop? I have this set up
and I find that several files I work with blow up. I do not have this
problem on other configurations, that is, not using Remote Desktop. I am on
FrameMaker 7.2.

Any help is appreciated!

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can a chapter in a book be set to conditional?

[Ragnar Hanas]

I have produced 2 books from one using conditional text for UK and US
spelling and metric units and those parts of the text that are different.
The forewords are different, and here whole pages are conditional. If you
have the appendix in a different file, you could just make that whole text
conditional, and in the book where the appendix is not needed, you would
just be adding an extra blank page when all the conditional text is hidden
(or insert a conditional picture on this page if you don't want it blank). I
much prefer to have only one book, since most of the updates are needed in
both language versions.
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital
Sweden

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ulrike Forsberg
(UFO)
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:29 AM
To: Fred Ridder; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: can a chapter in a book be set to conditional?

My objection to building two books is the risk of producing a wrong
manual because I forgot that I had an extra book for one of the manuals
(you all know that things can get rather hectic close to a deadline).
What I have done until now for the 3 products is that I changed the
variables and the conditional text settings to produce the specific
manual. The cover pages are added to the pdf file, they are done in a
different program, so no advantage here for working with three books.
Two books for 3 manuals will be the solution, and I have to note down in
my procedure that there is a separate book for one of the three manuals.




Thanks for all the feedback, have a nice day everybody,

Ulrike





From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:37 PM
To: Ulrike Forsberg (UFO); framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: can a chapter in a book be set to conditional?



What is your objection to building two books? That's the way FrameMaker
is designed to work. If it weren't for the ability to build different
books from differing collections of chapters is the primary reason for
the extra comlication of the chapter/book paradigm.

-Fred Ridder


> Subject: can a chapter in a book be set to conditional?
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:54:16 +0200
> From: ufo at thrane.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Hi Framers,
> I have a book file with a number of chapters and appendices. I use the
> same book file for 3 manuals, which I control with 3 conditional text
> tags.
> One of the appendices is only used in 2 of the manuals. Can I make
this
> appendix conditional? 
> My fallback solution is to make a separate book for this manual. I'd
> prefer though to have a single book. 
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Ulrike Forsberg
> Technical writer
> 
> E ufo at thrane.com
> T +45 39 55 8213
> 
> Thrane & Thrane A/S - Lundtoftegaardsvej 93 D
> DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, Denmark - www.thrane.com
> T +45 39 55 88 00 - F +45 39 55 88 88

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