Character style that won't stick

[Thomas Scalise]

Esteemed colleagues,

I am running unstructured Frame10 (10.0.2.914) on Windows 7.

I have a character style called CrossRef that applies a font (Verdana), size, 
and color (Blue) to a crossref link. However, it won't stick. When I recompile 
the book, the character style reverts to the Default Font (Times New Roman) but 
keeps the size and the color.

This one baffles me. Can anyone help me understand what's going on? Thanks.

Tom

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RE: Character style that won't stick

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tom,

 

How are you applying the character format to the cross reference? You are
making it part of the cross reference format building blocks? Thanks.

 

Rick

 

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Carmen Publishing Inc.

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Esteemed colleagues,

 

I am running unstructured Frame10 (10.0.2.914) on Windows 7.

 

I have a character style called CrossRef that applies a font (Verdana),
size, and color (Blue) to a crossref link. However, it won't stick. When I
recompile the book, the character style reverts to the Default Font (Times
New Roman) but keeps the size and the color. 

 

This one baffles me. Can anyone help me understand what's going on? Thanks.

 

Tom

 

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Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

[Lin Sims]

Hi folks,

As some of you may remember, a number of years ago I created a list of
FrameMaker plugins and utilities that I shared with the framers' lists
because, at the time, there wasn't a single place to find that
information. Jeremy Griffith and Shlomo Perets were kind enough to
make that list available on their websites, and I think it's still
there.

The last update I made was about 3 years ago, so it's pretty out of date.

Is there interest in my making another update? There are web sites out
there now (Leximation, for example, and failing that, Google) that
have a reasonably complete listing of plugins, so I'm not certain
there's a real need; however, if enough people ARE interested I'll
update it and ask Jeremy and Shlomo if they'd be willing to host the
update again, or I can just send it on request.

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Formatting in EDD

[Kristy Nolan]

Hi guys!

Frame 10, structured question. I am trying to clean up our EDD and can't figure 
out how to designate some formatting. I have elements for Note, Caution, and 
Warning. Most of the formatting is fine (e.g., font, size, weight). However, 
the direction I have is single underline Caution and double underline 
Warning. Not the whole paragraph, just the term. I know how to do this if I 
go the style sheet route where I designate everything there.

I tried creating character formats in the EDD - one for single and one for 
double underlines, but not working. May not even be on the right track there.

Thoughts?

Thanks!
Kristy


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Single file used in two BOOKs, Xref between the BOOKs

[David Artman]

Hi, again, all; especially Rick! I'll try to be brief

FM8, could go to FM9, but NOT FM10. Unstructured. Mixed Win7/WinXP
environment.

I'm making a pair of pubs: a Checklist (CHKL) pub which needs to xref to
an Implementation (IMPL) pub that shows all details of a given step in
the Checklist... if there are any! Not every step in the CHKL/IMPL has
substeps! So don't say LOP. LOP won't cut it, for usability
requirements. ;)

Example:
CHKL

2.5 ...
2.6 Get the foo out of the box.
2.7 Insert the foo into the bar. (Details)
2.8 ...

IMPL

2.5 ...
2.6 Get the foo out of the box.
2.7 Insert the foo into the bar.
 2.7.1 Hold the foo.
 2.7.2 Carefully approach the bar.
 2.7.3 Insert the foo through the opening in the bar.
   [picture of bar opening with approaching foo]
2.8 ...

SO, initial plan is as follows:
* Single-file sourcing (for the sake of example; this will actually be
done to several hundred small files which are modules of a very
complex, multi-variable-dependent process)

* When PDFing the IMPL: The substeps (e.g., 2.3.1) are made visible by a
condition (Show IMPLonly); and the Details xref links are hidden (Hide
CHKLonly).

* When PDFing the CHKL: The substeps are hidden (Hide IMPLonly); and the
Details xref links are made visible (Show CHKLonly).

And the theory is that, when a Details link is clicked in the Checklist,
it jumps to the Implementation pub, which shows all of the substeps but
NOT the Details link.

(I'm sure you are already anticipating the failure mode)
First attempt: Of course, the Details links self-link to the Checklist
itself, at the same step, NOT to the Implementation pub's step with all
the substeps. Leading to...

MY QUESTION:
---
Is there any way to force FrameMaker to consider the BOOK file AND the
Document file, when making an xref to a marker in the Document? At the
least, can I force it to explicitly reference the Document file name as
the xref source file, rather than Current?

Looking at MIF, the Details xrefs all read:
XRefSrcFile `' [link to self]

As a workaround, they could read:
XRefSrcFile `c\Module101.fm' [link to explicit file name]

...That way, I can do all the work in the Implementation (all conditions
visible), then just Ctrl+drag to make copies, which get the - Copy
suffix added to the file name, use those Copy files in the Checklist
BOOK, and VOILA! The xrefs point at the file names without - Copy in
them, thus pointing to the full substeps spelled out in the
Implementation, NOT self-referencing inside the Checklist.

But ideally, they would read (something like):
XRefSrcFile `c\CHKL.bookc\Module101.fm' [link to explicit BOOK
and file name]

...This way, I'd just need a separate BOOK file, with the SAME Document
files--FM will go look for the xrefs in ONLY a CHKL.BOOK-wrapped
Document file, even though the xref target is in the Document file
itself.

I am currently resigning myself to the workaround, by saving the files
to MIF and running a script across them to replace:
XRefSrcFile `'
...with:
XRefSrcFile `c\current_file_name.fm'

So that the MIFs can be used to build the Checklist BOOK, and they will
all aim at the Implementation pub.

But that's SUCKY, if you'll pardon my French. The save-to-MIF-and-script
process after each file update should be fast enough (assuming I can
write one to walk across all MIF files in the folder in which the script
resides, storing the current file name in a variable, to rewrite the
XrefSrcFile attributes). But, really, it's repetitive grind work, and
computers are supposed to be really good at that sort of stuff, they
tell me!

So... HOW? What should I do differently? Where's the setting in FM8 or
FM9 that says, Hey, link to this EXACT BOOK and Document file, not
'Current'?

Thanks a million, y'all;
David Artman

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Re: Survey about the impact of cloud technology on knowledge workers

[Robert Lauriston]

There seem to be some false assumptions in there. Cloud technology
often has nothing to do with mobile devices. Lots of people use Rally
and Salesforce just as they would desktop applications.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Doris Pavlichek dpavlic...@opnet.com wrote:
 Hi all -

 Please take a few minutes to participate in this survey about the impact of
 cloud technology on knowledge workers (including technical communicators).
 This is for a graduate project for Mercer University. We can offer nothing
 more than a good feeling that you helped some poor graduate students and my
 thanks! :-)  The info is below
 

 As graduate students in the Masters of Technical Communication Management at
 Mercer University, we are conducting a survey to explore how technology has
 changed our environment, work, and leisure.

 To participate in this survey, go to http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/6TP9TDV.
 Because your participation is voluntary, we appreciate your contribution to
 this research.

 Please send any questions you may have to leonard...@mercer.edu.
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Re: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...

[Robert Lauriston]

I've spent much of the past year trying to figure out a similar
transition. Short answer, the tools aren't mature enough for a $20K
budget. Long answer:

Confluence 4.x and MindTouch Core are the two wikis I've found that
seem workable.

Migrating large amounts of existing FrameMaker content to either is
problematic. Here's my most recent status report on my lack of success
in bulk migration from FrameMaker to Confluence (my status with
MindTouch is almost exactly the same):
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Confluence+4+further+discussion?focusedCommentId=294486511#comment-294486511

Version control is the other huge sticking point. Except for a few
unusable prototypes, I have found no wiki with document-level version
control a la branching in Subversion or Perforce. The Confluence docs
team just makes a static copy of the current release for the next
release. I'd really prefer to have a dynamic system where unchanged
pages were shared across multiple versions of a document and branched
as necessary.

status tagging (e.g. draft/final): can be easily accomplished with
native features

read-only access: native feature, but note license terms (MindTouch
allows unlicensed read-only community users to post comments and
rate pages, Confluence does not)

delivery as PDF: Confluence, if the native feature doesn't cut it you
can use K15t Scroll (which also sells an ePub utility); MindTouch Core
(which is itself free) uses Prince, which is excellent but not cheap.


AutoDesk has a hybrid system that does more or less everything you're
talking about and more, but they spent a lot of money on it. The DITA
XML source is stored in SDL Trisoft, which handles versioning and
topic reuse. The tech writers author in XMetal. They use various tools
to generate standard online help formats and PDFs. Those portions of
the system were in place before they added the wiki.

MindTouch built them a connector that populates the MindTouch TCS wiki
from Trisoft. They also have a connector that can pull
user-contributed content back into Trisoft from MindTouch, though that
requires some cleanup. The wiki can generate PDFs on the fly.

http://wikihelp.autodesk.com

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:02 PM, rebecca officer
rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz wrote:
 Hi everyone

 Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user
 manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional
 text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a
 year, delivered online.

 And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal
 feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual.

 I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same
 source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work
 collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time
 updates.

 I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g.
 draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at
 it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks.

 The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay
 with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we
 have to.

 As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM
 licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site
 licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a
 happy ending there.

 I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer
 or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K.

 So ...

 Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker -- Wiki?

 Should I be looking at XML?

 Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this?
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Re: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...

[Robert Lauriston]

So far as I have been able to tell, the switch from wiki markup to
XHTML source in Confluence 4 broke all the tools for getting content
in and out, and I'm not aware of any work going on to remedy that.

Confluence 4 has a MS Word import feature, but it has some showstopper
bugs: the TOC is scrambled, cross-references are not converted, and
numbered lists (SEQ fields) are converted to plain text. I reported
those bugs over six months ago, Atlassian has no current plans to fix
them (they remain unassigned in Jira).

https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/OFFCONN-53
https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/OFFCONN-54
https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/OFFCONN-56

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Roger Shuttleworth
rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com wrote:
 ... a plugin for Confluence wiki (DITA2Confluence) that will publish a
 ditamap and all its referenced content to wiki pages. But it is only a
 one-way transfer; you can't capture changes made on the wiki back to your
 FrameMaker source. And in the meantime Confluence 4 has switched from using
 wiki markup to using XHTML, so the plugin may not work with the current
 version of Confluence. (I'm sure there is work going on to remedy that.). ...
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RE: FrameMaker graphic file support

[Beverly Robinson]

Hi Roger,

Is this what you need?

http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/supported-file-formats-framemaker-10.html

Beverly

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Re: Unstructured to Structured: why do it manually ?

[Jang F.M. Graat]

Lisa,

I am just wondering: what are the exact circumstances why you could not use 
conversion tables? 

I have just finished a huge conversion project where manual work (except for 
the manual correction of details in the structured outcome) was simply NOT an 
option due to the sheer volume of the documentation. So I had to solve ALL 
problems that got in the way of automatic conversion. I wonder which problems 
might still exist that I did not encounter. I am preparing a series of blogs on 
this topic plus a presentation at tcworld in Wiesbaden this fall, so I have a 
keen interest in anything that seems impossible to automate in this domain.

Cheers

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 Subject: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph 
 formats
 
 Hello All,
 
 FM10 - We are converting an unstructured Frame file to Structured. Due to 
 unfortunate circumstances, we are not able to use a conversion table (sigh).
 
 The issue is that during the hand tagging of this file, we have to wrap the 
 text in the element tags in para tags to match the schema.  When we wrap the 
 text, we lose the paragraph's formatting properties. Everything turns to 
 body and we have to reapply the format.
 
 We are able to manipulate the EDD somewhat but can't stray from the 
 structure. We've looked at Read\Write rules but they don't appear to help in 
 this case. We've also looked at using the TextFormatRules, 
 ElementPgfFormatTag options but we have more than one paragraph style that 
 goes to an individual element.
 
 Does anyone have any other ideas?
 
 BTW, everything works great when a new document is created using the 
 template, EDD, etc.
 
 Thank you in advance!
 
 Sincerely,
 Lisa Freeman
 Publication Support Analyst
 
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RE: Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

[Lisa Freeman]

Hi Lin,

I'm definitely interested in updated plug-ins. I'm still using ones that I got 
with the Frame training I did with Shlomo many moons ago.

Lisa

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Subject: Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

Hi folks,

As some of you may remember, a number of years ago I created a list of
FrameMaker plugins and utilities that I shared with the framers' lists
because, at the time, there wasn't a single place to find that
information. Jeremy Griffith and Shlomo Perets were kind enough to
make that list available on their websites, and I think it's still
there.

The last update I made was about 3 years ago, so it's pretty out of date.

Is there interest in my making another update? There are web sites out
there now (Leximation, for example, and failing that, Google) that
have a reasonably complete listing of plugins, so I'm not certain
there's a real need; however, if enough people ARE interested I'll
update it and ask Jeremy and Shlomo if they'd be willing to host the
update again, or I can just send it on request.

-- 
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RE: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August

[Coe, David E]

I thought Lynda.com's FrameMaker 10 Essentials an excellent beginner/basic 
class in unstructured authoring and getting the user familiar with the 
interface; I thought it was well paced and has good exercise files to follow 
along hands-on. It is not for structured authoring, like DITA.

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Subject: RE: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August

Lynda.com has an introductory FrameMaker class. It is fairly new so I think it 
uses FrameMaker 10. Their classes are top-quality and very inexpensive. I have 
been a member on and off for years.

Rick Quatro
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We just hired a new writer, but she has no FrameMaker experience.  I will be 
too busy to train her.
I am looking for a good FrameMaker Basics sort of class in the Boston area in 
August.
Any suggestions? Reviews?
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Re: Survey about the impact of cloud technology on knowledge workers

[Doris Pavlichek]

Hi Robert -

The reason there are some questions about mobile apps, smartphones, and 
tablets within the survey is that we are studying all aspects of cloud 
and mobile computing within a single, unified survey for our entire 
capstone course. Some folks are focusing on handheld devices, some are 
focusing on cloud-based data, and Heidi and I are focusing on 
cloud-based applications (like Salesforce).


Hope that helps to clarify why certain questions came up during the survey.

D

On 7/5/2012 1:29 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

There seem to be some false assumptions in there. Cloud technology
often has nothing to do with mobile devices. Lots of people use Rally
and Salesforce just as they would desktop applications.

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Hi all -

Please take a few minutes to participate in this survey about the impact of
cloud technology on knowledge workers (including technical communicators).
This is for a graduate project for Mercer University. We can offer nothing
more than a good feeling that you helped some poor graduate students and my
thanks! :-)  The info is below


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Re: Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote:

As some of you may remember, a number of years ago I created a list of
FrameMaker plugins and utilities that I shared with the framers' lists
because, at the time, there wasn't a single place to find that
information. Jeremy Griffith and Shlomo Perets were kind enough to
make that list available on their websites, and I think it's still
there.

The last update I made was about 3 years ago, so it's pretty out of date.

Is there interest in my making another update? There are web sites out
there now (Leximation, for example, and failing that, Google) that
have a reasonably complete listing of plugins, so I'm not certain
there's a real need; however, if enough people ARE interested I'll
update it and ask Jeremy and Shlomo if they'd be willing to host the
update again, or I can just send it on request.

Hi, Lin!  We created a new Web site for Mif2Go 
as of May 1, and your list is posted on the
Forums there under framemaker Plugins.  To see
and post on the Forums, people must create an 
account on the site; it's free, and we won't
email you.  We didn't require that at first,
but the spambots quickly taught us our lesson,
as hundreds of announcements for, ah, ph ar ma
items, appeared within a few hours.  ;-)

It's still on the old site too, at:
  http://www.omsys.com/resources/fm_utilities_all_v3.1.pdf
but that site will go away entirely soon.

We'd be delighted, of course, to host an update.
Also, if you want, you can create a blog on the 
new (Drupal) site; blog entries are publically 
readable, but only site members can comment.

Thanks for your good work!

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Character style that won't stick

[Thomas Scalise]

Esteemed colleagues,

I am running unstructured Frame10 (10.0.2.914) on Windows 7.

I have a character style called CrossRef that applies a font (Verdana), size, 
and color (Blue) to a crossref link. However, it won't stick. When I recompile 
the book, the character style reverts to the Default Font (Times New Roman) but 
keeps the size and the color.

This one baffles me. Can anyone help me understand what's going on? Thanks.

Tom

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Character style that won't stick

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tom,



How are you applying the character format to the cross reference? You are
making it part of the cross reference format building blocks? Thanks.



Rick



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Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

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Esteemed colleagues,



I am running unstructured Frame10 (10.0.2.914) on Windows 7.



I have a character style called CrossRef that applies a font (Verdana),
size, and color (Blue) to a crossref link. However, it won't stick. When I
recompile the book, the character style reverts to the Default Font (Times
New Roman) but keeps the size and the color. 



This one baffles me. Can anyone help me understand what's going on? Thanks.



Tom



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Cross Match Technologies, Inc.

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Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410

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Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

[Lin Sims]

Hi folks,

As some of you may remember, a number of years ago I created a list of
FrameMaker plugins and utilities that I shared with the framers' lists
because, at the time, there wasn't a single place to find that
information. Jeremy Griffith and Shlomo Perets were kind enough to
make that list available on their websites, and I think it's still
there.

The last update I made was about 3 years ago, so it's pretty out of date.

Is there interest in my making another update? There are web sites out
there now (Leximation, for example, and failing that, Google) that
have a reasonably complete listing of plugins, so I'm not certain
there's a real need; however, if enough people ARE interested I'll
update it and ask Jeremy and Shlomo if they'd be willing to host the
update again, or I can just send it on request.

-- 
Lin Sims

Formatting in EDD

[Kristy Nolan]

Hi guys!

Frame 10, structured question. I am trying to clean up our EDD and can't figure 
out how to designate some formatting. I have elements for Note, Caution, and 
Warning. Most of the formatting is fine (e.g., font, size, weight). However, 
the direction I have is single underline "Caution" and double underline 
"Warning." Not the whole paragraph, just the term. I know how to do this if I 
go the style sheet route where I designate everything there.

I tried creating character formats in the EDD - one for single and one for 
double underlines, but not working. May not even be on the right track there.

Thoughts?

Thanks!
Kristy


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Single file used in two BOOKs, Xref between the BOOKs

[David Artman]

Hi, again, all; especially Rick! I'll try to be brief

FM8, could go to FM9, but NOT FM10. Unstructured. Mixed Win7/WinXP
environment.

I'm making a pair of pubs: a Checklist (CHKL) pub which needs to xref to
an Implementation (IMPL) pub that shows all details of a given step in
the Checklist... if there are any! Not every step in the CHKL/IMPL has
substeps! So don't say "LOP". LOP won't cut it, for usability
requirements. ;)

Example:
CHKL

2.5 ...
2.6 Get the foo out of the box.
2.7 Insert the foo into the bar. (Details)
2.8 ...

IMPL

2.5 ...
2.6 Get the foo out of the box.
2.7 Insert the foo into the bar.
 2.7.1 Hold the foo.
 2.7.2 Carefully approach the bar.
 2.7.3 Insert the foo through the opening in the bar.
   [picture of bar opening with approaching foo]
2.8 ...

SO, initial plan is as follows:
* Single-file sourcing (for the sake of example; this will actually be
done to several hundred small files which are "modules" of a very
complex, multi-variable-dependent process)

* When PDFing the IMPL: The substeps (e.g., 2.3.1) are made visible by a
condition (Show IMPLonly); and the "Details" xref links are hidden (Hide
CHKLonly).

* When PDFing the CHKL: The substeps are hidden (Hide IMPLonly); and the
"Details" xref links are made visible (Show CHKLonly).

And the theory is that, when a Details link is clicked in the Checklist,
it jumps to the Implementation pub, which shows all of the substeps but
NOT the Details link.

(I'm sure you are already anticipating the failure mode)
First attempt: Of course, the Details links self-link to the Checklist
itself, at the same step, NOT to the Implementation pub's step with all
the substeps. Leading to...

MY QUESTION:
---
Is there any way to force FrameMaker to consider the BOOK file AND the
Document file, when making an xref to a marker in the Document? At the
least, can I force it to explicitly reference the Document file name as
the xref source file, rather than "Current"?

Looking at MIF, the Details xrefs all read:
 [link to self]

As a workaround, they could read:
Module101.fm'> [link to explicit file name]

...That way, I can do all the work in the Implementation (all conditions
visible), then just Ctrl+drag to make copies, which get the "- Copy"
suffix added to the file name, use those Copy files in the Checklist
BOOK, and VOILA! The xrefs point at the file names without "- Copy" in
them, thus pointing to the full substeps spelled out in the
Implementation, NOT self-referencing inside the Checklist.

But ideally, they would read (something like):
CHKL.bookModule101.fm'> [link to explicit BOOK
and file name]

...This way, I'd just need a separate BOOK file, with the SAME Document
files--FM will go look for the xrefs in ONLY a CHKL.BOOK-wrapped
Document file, even though the xref target is in the Document file
itself.

I am currently resigning myself to the workaround, by saving the files
to MIF and running a script across them to replace:

...with:
.fm'>

So that the MIFs can be used to build the Checklist BOOK, and they will
all "aim" at the Implementation pub.

But that's SUCKY, if you'll pardon my French. The save-to-MIF-and-script
process after each file update should be fast enough (assuming I can
write one to walk across all MIF files in the folder in which the script
resides, storing the current file name in a variable, to rewrite the
XrefSrcFile attributes). But, really, it's repetitive grind work, and
computers are supposed to be really good at that sort of stuff, they
tell me!

So... HOW? What should I do differently? Where's the setting in FM8 or
FM9 that says, "Hey, link to this EXACT BOOK and Document file, not
'Current'"?

Thanks a million, y'all;
David Artman

Survey about the impact of cloud technology on knowledge workers

[Robert Lauriston]

There seem to be some false assumptions in there. Cloud technology
often has nothing to do with mobile devices. Lots of people use Rally
and Salesforce just as they would desktop applications.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Doris Pavlichek  
wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> Please take a few minutes to participate in this survey about the impact of
> cloud technology on knowledge workers (including technical communicators).
> This is for a graduate project for Mercer University. We can offer nothing
> more than a good feeling that you helped some poor graduate students and my
> thanks! :-)  The info is below
> 
>
> As graduate students in the Masters of Technical Communication Management at
> Mercer University, we are conducting a survey to explore how technology has
> changed our environment, work, and leisure.
>
> To participate in this survey, go to http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/6TP9TDV.
> Because your participation is voluntary, we appreciate your contribution to
> this research.
>
> Please send any questions you may have to leonard_hi at mercer.edu.

Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...

[Robert Lauriston]

I've spent much of the past year trying to figure out a similar
transition. Short answer, the tools aren't mature enough for a $20K
budget. Long answer:

Confluence 4.x and MindTouch Core are the two wikis I've found that
seem workable.

Migrating large amounts of existing FrameMaker content to either is
problematic. Here's my most recent status report on my lack of success
in bulk migration from FrameMaker to Confluence (my status with
MindTouch is almost exactly the same):
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Confluence+4+further+discussion?focusedCommentId=294486511#comment-294486511

Version control is the other huge sticking point. Except for a few
unusable prototypes, I have found no wiki with document-level version
control a la branching in Subversion or Perforce. The Confluence docs
team just makes a static copy of the current release for the next
release. I'd really prefer to have a dynamic system where unchanged
pages were shared across multiple versions of a document and branched
as necessary.

"status tagging (e.g.> draft/final)": can be easily accomplished with
native features

read-only access: native feature, but note license terms (MindTouch
allows unlicensed read-only "community" users to post comments and
rate pages, Confluence does not)

delivery as PDF: Confluence, if the native feature doesn't cut it you
can use K15t Scroll (which also sells an ePub utility); MindTouch Core
(which is itself free) uses Prince, which is excellent but not cheap.


AutoDesk has a hybrid system that does more or less everything you're
talking about and more, but they spent a lot of money on it. The DITA
XML source is stored in SDL Trisoft, which handles versioning and
topic reuse. The tech writers author in XMetal. They use various tools
to generate standard online help formats and PDFs. Those portions of
the system were in place before they added the wiki.

MindTouch built them a connector that populates the MindTouch TCS wiki
from Trisoft. They also have a connector that can pull
user-contributed content back into Trisoft from MindTouch, though that
requires some cleanup. The wiki can generate PDFs on the fly.

http://wikihelp.autodesk.com

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:02 PM, rebecca officer
 wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user
> manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional
> text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a
> year, delivered online.
>
> And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal
> feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual.
>
> I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same
> source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work
> collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time
> updates.
>
> I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g.
> draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at
> it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks.
>
> The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay
> with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we
> have to.
>
> As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM
> licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site
> licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a
> happy ending there.
>
> I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer
> or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K.
>
> So ...
>
> Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker <--> Wiki?
>
> Should I be looking at XML?
>
> Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this?

Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...

[Robert Lauriston]

So far as I have been able to tell, the switch from wiki markup to
XHTML source in Confluence 4 broke all the tools for getting content
in and out, and I'm not aware of any work going on to remedy that.

Confluence 4 has a MS Word import feature, but it has some showstopper
bugs: the TOC is scrambled, cross-references are not converted, and
numbered lists (SEQ fields) are converted to plain text. I reported
those bugs over six months ago, Atlassian has no current plans to fix
them (they remain unassigned in Jira).

https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/OFFCONN-53
https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/OFFCONN-54
https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/OFFCONN-56

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Roger Shuttleworth
 wrote:
> ... a plugin for Confluence wiki (DITA2Confluence) that will publish a
> ditamap and all its referenced content to wiki pages. But it is only a
> one-way transfer; you can't capture changes made on the wiki back to your
> FrameMaker source. And in the meantime Confluence 4 has switched from using
> wiki markup to using XHTML, so the plugin may not work with the current
> version of Confluence. (I'm sure there is work going on to remedy that.). ...

FrameMaker graphic file support

[Beverly Robinson]

Hi Roger,

Is this what you need?

http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/supported-file-formats-framemaker-10.html

Beverly

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Unstructured to Structured: why do it manually ?

[Jang F.M. Graat]

Lisa,

I am just wondering: what are the exact circumstances why you could not use 
conversion tables? 

I have just finished a huge conversion project where manual work (except for 
the manual correction of details in the structured outcome) was simply NOT an 
option due to the sheer volume of the documentation. So I had to solve ALL 
problems that got in the way of automatic conversion. I wonder which problems 
might still exist that I did not encounter. I am preparing a series of blogs on 
this topic plus a presentation at tcworld in Wiesbaden this fall, so I have a 
keen interest in anything that seems impossible to automate in this domain.

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> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Freeman
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 1:24 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Unstructured to Structured: Question about retaining paragraph 
> formats
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> FM10 - We are converting an unstructured Frame file to Structured. Due to 
> unfortunate circumstances, we are not able to use a conversion table (sigh).
> 
> The issue is that during the hand tagging of this file, we have to wrap the 
> text in the element tags in para tags to match the schema.  When we wrap the 
> text, we lose the paragraph's formatting properties. Everything turns to 
> "body" and we have to reapply the format.
> 
> We are able to manipulate the EDD somewhat but can't stray from the 
> structure. We've looked at Read\Write rules but they don't appear to help in 
> this case. We've also looked at using the "TextFormatRules, 
> ElementPgfFormatTag" options but we have more than one paragraph style that 
> goes to an individual element.
> 
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> 
> BTW, everything works great when a new document is created using the 
> template, EDD, etc.
> 
> Thank you in advance!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Lisa Freeman
> Publication Support Analyst
> 
> E-mail: lfreeman at oneil.com

Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

[Lisa Freeman]

Hi Lin,

I'm definitely interested in updated plug-ins. I'm still using ones that I got 
with the Frame training I did with Shlomo many moons ago.

Lisa

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Sent: 07 05, 2012 3:25 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

Hi folks,

As some of you may remember, a number of years ago I created a list of
FrameMaker plugins and utilities that I shared with the framers' lists
because, at the time, there wasn't a single place to find that
information. Jeremy Griffith and Shlomo Perets were kind enough to
make that list available on their websites, and I think it's still
there.

The last update I made was about 3 years ago, so it's pretty out of date.

Is there interest in my making another update? There are web sites out
there now (Leximation, for example, and failing that, Google) that
have a reasonably complete listing of plugins, so I'm not certain
there's a real need; however, if enough people ARE interested I'll
update it and ask Jeremy and Shlomo if they'd be willing to host the
update again, or I can just send it on request.

-- 
Lin Sims
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FM10 Training in Boston or online in August

[Coe, David E]

I thought Lynda.com's FrameMaker 10 Essentials an excellent beginner/basic 
class in unstructured authoring and getting the user familiar with the 
interface; I thought it was well paced and has good exercise files to follow 
along hands-on. It is not for structured authoring, like DITA.

David Coe




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Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 10:38 AM
To: 'John Sgammato'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August

Lynda.com has an introductory FrameMaker class. It is fairly new so I think it 
uses FrameMaker 10. Their classes are top-quality and very inexpensive. I have 
been a member on and off for years.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
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Subject: FM10 Training in Boston or online in August

We just hired a new writer, but she has no FrameMaker experience.  I will be 
too busy to train her.
I am looking for a good FrameMaker Basics sort of class in the Boston area in 
August.
Any suggestions? Reviews?
Feel free to reply here or to me directly at jsgammato at 
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Survey about the impact of cloud technology on knowledge workers

[Doris Pavlichek]

Hi Robert -

The reason there are some questions about mobile apps, smartphones, and 
tablets within the survey is that we are studying all aspects of cloud 
and mobile computing within a single, unified survey for our entire 
capstone course. Some folks are focusing on handheld devices, some are 
focusing on cloud-based data, and Heidi and I are focusing on 
cloud-based applications (like Salesforce).

Hope that helps to clarify why certain questions came up during the survey.

D

On 7/5/2012 1:29 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> There seem to be some false assumptions in there. Cloud technology
> often has nothing to do with mobile devices. Lots of people use Rally
> and Salesforce just as they would desktop applications.
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Doris Pavlichek  
> wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> Please take a few minutes to participate in this survey about the impact of
>> cloud technology on knowledge workers (including technical communicators).
>> This is for a graduate project for Mercer University. We can offer nothing
>> more than a good feeling that you helped some poor graduate students and my
>> thanks! :-)  The info is below
>> 
>>
>> As graduate students in the Masters of Technical Communication Management at
>> Mercer University, we are conducting a survey to explore how technology has
>> changed our environment, work, and leisure.
>>
>> To participate in this survey, go to http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/6TP9TDV.
>> Because your participation is voluntary, we appreciate your contribution to
>> this research.
>>
>> Please send any questions you may have to leonard_hi at mercer.edu.


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Is there interest in an update to the List of Plugins?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:25:25 -0400, Lin Sims  wrote:

>As some of you may remember, a number of years ago I created a list of
>FrameMaker plugins and utilities that I shared with the framers' lists
>because, at the time, there wasn't a single place to find that
>information. Jeremy Griffith and Shlomo Perets were kind enough to
>make that list available on their websites, and I think it's still
>there.
>
>The last update I made was about 3 years ago, so it's pretty out of date.
>
>Is there interest in my making another update? There are web sites out
>there now (Leximation, for example, and failing that, Google) that
>have a reasonably complete listing of plugins, so I'm not certain
>there's a real need; however, if enough people ARE interested I'll
>update it and ask Jeremy and Shlomo if they'd be willing to host the
>update again, or I can just send it on request.

Hi, Lin!  We created a new Web site for Mif2Go 
as of May 1, and your list is posted on the
Forums there under framemaker Plugins.  To see
and post on the Forums, people must create an 
account on the site; it's free, and we won't
email you.  We didn't require that at first,
but the spambots quickly taught us our lesson,
as hundreds of announcements for, ah, ph ar ma
items, appeared within a few hours.  ;-)

It's still on the old site too, at:
  http://www.omsys.com/resources/fm_utilities_all_v3.1.pdf
but that site will go away entirely soon.

We'd be delighted, of course, to host an update.
Also, if you want, you can create a blog on the 
new (Drupal) site; blog entries are publically 
readable, but only site members can comment.

Thanks for your good work!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/