questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Heiko Haida]

Hi Cheryl, 

as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you
should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at
least. 

FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings
for characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries
(EDD) or numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) -
may have to be updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you
convert FM 7.2-files. 

FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still
work. 

As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following
parts/files: 

structured application definition file = structapps.fm
read/write-rules file
DTD and entity definitions
EDD
Template(s) with imported EDD 

In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary
files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.
First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest
version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the
application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the
structure-view window), without the header.
All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11. 

If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will
also be helpful for FM 11. 

Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure
application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion
on "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest
versions of these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long
time ago...). 

The FM 11 online help is here: 
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.html


You can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here:
http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.php 

Good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

dwyercl2 at verizon.net: 

> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, 
> I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created 
> structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back 
> several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the 
> XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
> 
> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I 
> did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or 
> so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there 
> a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD 
> (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
> blurbs on it says it will do? 
> 
> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome! 
> 
> Thanks!
> Cheryl Dwyer 
> 
> Lead Tech Writer
> Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
> McLean, VA

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Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Cheryl, 

as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you
should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at
least. 

FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings
for characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries
(EDD) or numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) -
may have to be updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you
convert FM 7.2-files. 

FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still
work. 

As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following
parts/files: 

structured application definition file = structapps.fm
read/write-rules file
DTD and entity definitions
EDD
Template(s) with imported EDD 

In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary
files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.
First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest
version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the
application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the
structure-view window), without the header.
All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11. 

If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will
also be helpful for FM 11. 

Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure
application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion
on "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest
versions of these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long
time ago...). 

The FM 11 online help is here: 
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.html


You can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here:
http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.php 

Good luck - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

dwyer...@verizon.net: 

> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, 
> I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created 
> structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back 
> several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the 
> XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
> 
> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I 
> did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or 
> so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there 
> a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD 
> (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
> blurbs on it says it will do? 
> 
> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome! 
> 
> Thanks!
> Cheryl Dwyer 
> 
> Lead Tech Writer
> Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
> McLean, VA
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Re: Insert image as H/F variable - script

[Robert Lauriston]

I was using FrameMaker 10 when the script stopped working. I haven't used 11.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp  wrote:
> Is that still true for the latest FM versions? I have some extend scripts
> running without issues.
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[Mike Wickham]

You might also want to check out the very helpful video on using the 
news (as of FM9) user interface:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/

On 10/24/2013 11:52 AM, dwyercl2 at verizon.net wrote:
>
> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 
> forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time.
>
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[Mike Wickham]

You might also want to check out the very helpful video on using the 
news (as of FM9) user interface:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/

On 10/24/2013 11:52 AM, dwyer...@verizon.net wrote:


Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 
forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time.



Mike Wickham
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[Matt Sullivan]

It sounds like you're changing structure models (some XML model before, and now to DITA)If that's the case, you'll need to convert the current content to DITA, likely using XSLT, and likely using Scott P, Rick Q, or another expert.
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:04 PM, dwyer...@verizon.net wrote:Thanks, Tino--I appreciate the 'refresher course' on Structured FM, as it was 2007 when I created all the old XML files for FM7.2. I'll be downloading and reading manuals for a bit before I jump in feet first now! I looked at a sample DITA EDD in FM11 and compared it to my old EDD--the names were slightly different (Chapter vs ChapterElement, for example) and I couldn't remember whether I made mine up way-back-when or if those were designated. So, I'll be reading up on everything, as I said!Thanks again for your kind explanations!Cheryl On 10/24/13, Heiko Haida wrote: Hi Cheryl,as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at least. FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings for characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries (EDD) or numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) - may have to be updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you convert FM 7.2-files.FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still work.As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following parts/files:structured application definition file = structapps.fmread/write-rules fileDTD and entity definitionsEDDTemplate(s) with imported EDDIn your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the header.All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11.If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will also be helpful for FM 11.Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion on "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest versions of these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long time ago...).The FM 11 online help is here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.htmlYou can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here: http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.phpGood luck -Tino H. Haida, Berlin dwyer...@verizon.net:Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!Thanks!Cheryl DwyerLead Tech WriterIndustrial Medium Software, Inc.McLean, VA
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[Matt Sullivan]

It sounds like you're changing structure models (some XML model before, and now 
to DITA)

If that's the case, you'll need to convert the current content to DITA, likely 
using XSLT, and likely using Scott P, Rick Q, or another expert.

-Matt

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P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:04 PM, dwyercl2 at verizon.net wrote:

> Thanks, Tino--I appreciate the 'refresher course' on Structured FM, as it was 
> 2007 when I created all the old XML files for FM7.2. I'll be downloading and 
> reading manuals for a bit before I jump in feet first now! I looked at a 
> sample DITA EDD in FM11 and compared it to my old EDD--the names were 
> slightly different (Chapter vs ChapterElement, for example) and I couldn't 
> remember whether I made mine up way-back-when or if those were designated. 
> So, I'll be reading up on everything, as I said!
> 
> Thanks again for your kind explanations!
> Cheryl
>  
> On 10/24/13, Heiko Haida wrote:
>  
> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you 
> should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at least.
> 
> FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings for 
> characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries (EDD) or 
> numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) - may have to be 
> updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you convert FM 7.2-files.
> 
> FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still work.
> 
> As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following 
> parts/files:
> 
> structured application definition file = structapps.fm
> read/write-rules file
> DTD and entity definitions
> EDD
> Template(s) with imported EDD
> 
> In your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All 
> files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.
> First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. 
> Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries 
> of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the 
> header.
> All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11.
> 
> If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will also be 
> helpful for FM 11.
> 
> Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure 
> application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion on 
> "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest versions of 
> these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long time ago...).
> 
> The FM 11 online help is here: 
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.html
> 
> You can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here: 
> http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.php
> 
> Good luck -
> 
> Tino H. Haida, Berlin
> 
>  
> dwyercl2 at verizon.net:
> 
>> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 
>> forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had 
>> created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them 
>> to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I 
>> never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
>> 
>> 
>> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work 
>> I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete 
>> or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is 
>> there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page 
>> EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
>> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
>> blurbs on it says it will do?
>> 
>> 
>> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
>> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Cheryl Dwyer
>> 
>> Lead Tech Writer
>> Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
>> McLean, VA
>> 
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Re: Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[dwyercl2]

Thanks, Tino--I appreciate the 'refresher course' on Structured FM, as it was 2007 when I created all the old XML files for FM7.2. I'll be downloading and reading manuals for a bit before I jump in feet first now! I looked at a sample DITA EDD in FM11 and compared it to my old EDD--the names were slightly different (Chapter vs ChapterElement, for example) and I couldn't remember whether I made mine up way-back-when or if those were designated. So, I'll be reading up on everything, as I said!Thanks again for your kind explanations!Cheryl On 10/24/13, Heiko Haida wrote: Hi Cheryl,as Matt and Scott have already mentioned, there are differences, but you should be able to work with your old files and get some result, at least. FrameMaker works with Unicode characters since FM 8. Some older settings for characters - iso characters in the r/w rules, prefix/suffix entries (EDD) or numbering formats/reference definitions (in the templates) - may have to be updated or modified. You have to be aware of that if you convert FM 7.2-files.FM 11 now supports XSLT 2. Of course, XSLT 1-templates should still work.As you know, the structured environment consists mainly of the following parts/files:structured application definition file = structapps.fmread/write-rules fileDTD and entity definitionsEDDTemplate(s) with imported EDDIn your structapps.fm, you define the file paths for all necessary files. All files except the DTD itself are genuine FrameMaker files.First, you should make sure that the structapps.fm is of the newest version. Create a new structapps.fm with FM 11 and copy (only) the application entries of the old FM 7.2-file into it (via the structure-view window), without the header.All other files should at least be opened and saved with FM 11.If you can get some How-to-instructions for FM 8 or FM 9, these will also be helpful for FM 11.Manuals are available from the Adobe Website. Look for "FM structure application developer guide" and "reference". We just had a discussion on "frameusers" about this and it seems, that in fact the newest versions of these manuals were released with FM 9 (which is pretty long time ago...).The FM 11 online help is here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f73d53-8000.htmlYou can get infos on some commercial sites for free too, eg. here: http://wiki.scriptorium.com./tiki-index.phpGood luck -Tino H. Haida, Berlin dwyer...@verizon.net:Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!Thanks!Cheryl DwyerLead Tech WriterIndustrial Medium Software, Inc.McLean, VA
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Insert image as H/F variable - script

[Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp]

Is that still true for the latest FM versions? I have some extend scripts 
running without issues.


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel


Op 23 okt. 2013, om 18:03 heeft Robert Lauriston  het 
volgende geschreven:

> ExtendScript is buggy, unsupported, and only partially documented.

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Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Cheryl...

In general, your FM7.2 structure app should basically work with FM11 .. 
what is happening to make you think it's not?


...scott


On 10/24/13 9:52 AM, dwyer...@verizon.net wrote:


Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 
forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had 
created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them 
to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" 
and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out.


Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the 
work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty 
much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help 
back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able 
to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that 
way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 
do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?



Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is 
there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions 
are welcome!



Thanks!
Cheryl Dwyer

Lead Tech Writer
Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
McLean, VA





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[Scott Prentice]

Hi Cheryl...

In general, your FM7.2 structure app should basically work with FM11 .. 
what is happening to make you think it's not?

...scott


On 10/24/13 9:52 AM, dwyercl2 at verizon.net wrote:
>
> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 
> forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had 
> created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them 
> to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" 
> and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out.
>
> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the 
> work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty 
> much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help 
> back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able 
> to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that 
> way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 
> do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?
>
>
> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is 
> there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions 
> are welcome!
>
>
> Thanks!
> Cheryl Dwyer
>
> Lead Tech Writer
> Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
> McLean, VA
>
>
>

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Re: questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Cheryl, You'll need to validate your EDD (shouldn't be too tough) and recreate a StructApp for Fm11 based upon what you had for Fm7.Again, shouldn't be too tough to recreate your environment. Fm11 includes a StructApp designer, and other details for the improvements to Fm11 (about 50% of the upgrade is related to structure) are in the FrameMaker 11 Reviewer's Guide. Here's a link to the Reviewer's Guide: http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/fm11rg
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, dwyer...@verizon.net wrote:Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!Thanks!Cheryl Dwyer___


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questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Cheryl, 

You'll need to validate your EDD (shouldn't be too tough) and recreate a 
StructApp for Fm11 based upon what you had for Fm7.

Again, shouldn't be too tough to recreate your environment. Fm11 includes a 
StructApp designer, and other details for the improvements to Fm11 (about 50% 
of the upgrade is related to structure) are in the FrameMaker 11 Reviewer's 
Guide. 

Here's a link to the Reviewer's Guide: http://mattrsullivan.com/2013/10/fm11rg

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, dwyercl2 at verizon.net wrote:

> Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, 
> I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created 
> structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back 
> several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the 
> XSLT stylesheets worked out. 
> 
> 
> Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I 
> did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or 
> so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there 
> a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD 
> (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just 
> start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing 
> blurbs on it says it will do?
> 
> 
> Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a 
> FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> Cheryl Dwyer
> 

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questions re Structured FM7.2 to FM11

[dwyercl2]

Background: My company recently purchased FM11 and after using FM7.2 forever, I'm now learning my way around FM11 one-day-at-a-time. I had created structured FM7.2 files and was working on round-tripping them to-XML-and-back several years ago, when we were "overtaken by events" and I never did get the XSLT stylesheets worked out. Present: In opening my old FM7.2 structured files, I'm finding all the work I did on creating EDDs and other special files for XML pretty much obsolete or so it seems. (The structure dev guide was a huge help back then...) Is there a magic bullet or two that I can use to be able to re-use the 34-page EDD (lots of thought and work put into that way-back-when), or should I just start over from scratch and let FM11 do the heavy lifting that the marketing blurbs on it says it will do?Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Advice? Books I should get? Is there a FM11 structure dev guide available? Any help or suggestions are welcome!Thanks!Cheryl DwyerLead Tech WriterIndustrial Medium Software, Inc.McLean, VA
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Insert image as H/F variable - script

[Robert Lauriston]

I was using FrameMaker 10 when the script stopped working. I haven't used 11.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp  wrote:
> Is that still true for the latest FM versions? I have some extend scripts
> running without issues.

Insert image as H/F variable - script

[Rick Quatro]

While Robert is essentially correct, I have written dozens of scripts for
clients that are working fine. I agree that FrameScript is a much better
scripting environment for FrameMaker.



FrameMaker's ExtendScript support is typical of other new features added to
FrameMaker: they add features but rarely improve on them. They have to have
"new" to justify the next new version. Contrast this with InDesign that
continually improves existing features in addition to adding new features.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017 **NEW**

rick at frameexpert.com







From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wim Hooghwinkel -
idtp
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:21 AM
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Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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Is that still true for the latest FM versions? I have some extend scripts
running without issues.



Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel





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ExtendScript is buggy, unsupported, and only partially documented.



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RE: Insert image as H/F variable - script

[Rick Quatro]

While Robert is essentially correct, I have written dozens of scripts for
clients that are working fine. I agree that FrameScript is a much better
scripting environment for FrameMaker.

 

FrameMaker's ExtendScript support is typical of other new features added to
FrameMaker: they add features but rarely improve on them. They have to have
"new" to justify the next new version. Contrast this with InDesign that
continually improves existing features in addition to adding new features.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017 **NEW**

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wim Hooghwinkel -
idtp
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:21 AM
To: Robert Lauriston
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Insert image as H/F variable - script 

 

Is that still true for the latest FM versions? I have some extend scripts
running without issues.

 

Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel

 

 

Op 23 okt. 2013, om 18:03 heeft Robert Lauriston  het
volgende geschreven:





ExtendScript is buggy, unsupported, and only partially documented.

 

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Re: Insert image as H/F variable - script

[Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp]

Is that still true for the latest FM versions? I have some extend scripts 
running without issues.


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel


Op 23 okt. 2013, om 18:03 heeft Robert Lauriston  het 
volgende geschreven:

> ExtendScript is buggy, unsupported, and only partially documented.

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Paragraph tag selection - F9 + keyboard

[Heiko Haida]

Hi Tim, 

you should always work with the fully patched version! 

Patches are available for download on the Adobe website: 

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http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows
[1] 

You have to apply all patches successively: first 9p230, then 9p237,
then 9p250, then 9p255 -- ok? 

Best regards - 

Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Tim Pann: 

> I'm running Frame 9 on each of two Windows 7 laptops, which I'll call 
> computer A and computer B. 
> 
> Computer A is running version 9.0p196. (A while back it was fully updated but 
> my hard drive crashed and I had to start over.) 
> 
> Computer B is running version 9.0p255. 
> 
> My problem is that on computer A I am not able to select a paragraph tag by 
> hitting F9 and then typing the first few characters of the tag name. For 
> example, I have the following: 
> 
> b1Body1 
> 
> bu1Bullet1 
> 
> Naturally if I hit F9 then "b" it activate b1Body1. On computer B, if I enter 
> "bu" then I get to bu1Bullet1. On computer A, typing "bu" does not move me 
> from b1Body1 to bu1Bullet1. I have to use the down arrow key. 
> 
> I suspect this has to do with my version. 
> 
> So my QUICK question is, can someone help me understand what version to 
> update to from 9.0p196 to get to 255? And how to get that? 
> 
> For a full explanation of why I'm asking this question, read on. It will 
> probably give you a headache. Thank you in advance. J 
> 
> - Tim 
> 
> Continuing, the second problem I have is that I cannot download an update on 
> computer A. Upon asking Frame to look for updates, I get the following 
> message: "The update server is not responding, which means it might be 
> offline at the moment, or the Internet or firewall settings may be incorrect. 
> Please try again later." (It works fine on computer B.) 
> 
> This error occurs on my work network and at home. 
> 
> Through some logic (I don't remember actually), several weeks ago I managed 
> to download the FrameMaker_9_0_4_win.exe update. (I didn't get it on computer 
> B because computer B tells me there is no update to p255.) Anyway, when I try 
> to install this upgrade on computer A it tells me that this update is for the 
> version p250 build. Then it quits. 
> 
> I find that taking a screen shot of this email and turning it upside down 
> makes it more readable. 
> 
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Persistent ghosting images

[Robert CH Shell]

Dear Karen:

Is it possible that the graphics are residing in an obscure master page
perhaps off screen? A careless paste might have put them there. The image
may be blank.  Ditto for the reference pages. I presume the ghost images are
referenced. Were they originally in anchored frames? Searching for same in
these places might work. Perhaps these hints are very obvious. Printing the
page reveals nothing, I suppose.

Rob Shell



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