Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker * Save as HTML * Open HTML in browser * Open a new DITA topic in Maker * Select the chapter and copy from the browser * Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cud From: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart Paste. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 4:51 AM To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker * Save as HTML * Open HTML in browser * Open a new DITA topic in Maker * Select the chapter and copy from the browser * Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cud _ From: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud
If Google Ngrams is to be believed, it was first coined around 1824: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=wordmongeryear_start=1800year_end=2000 Original Message From: Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk Date: Tue, May 20, 2014 2:05 pm Ps. Word Mongers - hmm, nice name. I've been called a Word Carver. I hope it was a compliment! I thought I'd invented the term 'wordmonger' (in 1995, during a bout of more than usually furious concentration), as in 'one who sells words', but years later I discovered that the word already existed, and meant 'a writer who uses words for show or without particular regard for meaning'. Sigh. Such is life. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Keep index visible for Framemaker Help v12 online?
Is there any way to keep the index visible when wandering through the Adobe website? I see those little left/right arrows but the following subjects don't make any sense to me; I'd rather click through a table-like index. It takes a lot of time to click to the top of the breadcrumbs to start the index again. Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: [Job ad] Software technical writer required for UN agency in Switzerland
Hi Pascale, As you're looking for a Tech Writer with Flare and prior FM experience, may I suggest you post your job ad to the MadCap Flare forums, and LinkedIn Flare User group: http://forums.madcapsoftware.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=gid=86373 Both are very active, and you're sure to expand your pool of candidates! Thanks, Jose Sermeno Product Evangelist MadCap Software Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:13:34 + From: STEPHENSON pascale pascale.stephen...@upu.int To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Job ad] Software technical writer required for UN agency in Switzerland Message-ID: 9a9e89a513f3b1488de35fc640b303e4461fb...@tex02.upu.ch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The PTC (Postal Technology Centre), a software unit within the UPU (Universal Postal Union), is looking for a Software Technical Writer with at least two years' technical writing experience. Location: Bern, Switzerland Type: 3 year contract, renewable The duties of the position are as follows: *Writes and updates all end-user documentation as assigned, such as online help for PTCapplications and installation guides, using the appropriate software for the task *Ensures quality of documentation by adhering to departmental standards and by using established methods and techniques for writing user documentation *Works closely with managers, software developers and technical account managers to gather essential information *Creates and designs training materials, including multimedia content, using the appropriate software for the task *Ensures quality of materials by adhering to departmental standards and by using established methods and standards designed to facilitate adult learning *Performs quality checking on various documentation projects, such as verifying links in online help The organization may be able to help with relocation. For more information and how to apply, please see: https://erecruit.upu.int/public/hrd-cl-vac-view.asp?jobinfo_uid_c=29133vaclng=en ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format?
Tino's description is quite accurate. What this implies is that providing MIFs can be cheaper, since all the DTP stuff is taken on after the translation. Doing the DTP yourself can be quite instructive in instituting best practices for documents that will undergo translation. There are many of these, like using numeric callouts in figures with an associated table that describes each item (so that that text can vary in length without going outside the anchored frame or covering part of the graphic). Note that your numeric callouts will have to change if your table numbering system changes the look of the numbers themselves. While doing DTP for a translation company, I got pinged by the customer because a cross-reference referred to the wrong page. This was due to the target being two paragraphs under a heading rather than in the heading itself. In the original document that was on the same page as the heading, so no problem, but in the translation the longer text brought out this error in the source. (And of course, the DTP person should not be moving Cross-Ref markers around; the assumption is that they are in the correct place.) The amount of time spent on quality checks that eventually found source file problems was not insignificant. That is costly to one or both of the companies involved. Another best practice is not aligning the bottoms of text boxes in graphics at the edge of the anchored frame. This makes it extremely difficult to see that that text has overflowed since the overflow line at the bottom of the text box will be hidden by the presence of the edge of the anchored frame. Craig Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:04:21 +0200 From: i...@heiko-haida.de To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format? Hi Stephen, well, I have been working for translation companies for more than 15 years (DTP). There are two ways to handle this: a) mif files are supplied for translation, mif files are returned (no dtp involved). This is best if you can handle all dtp yourself. It is necessary to know which mif version (which FM version) is used, that is most important. b) Frame files are supplied and a dtp step is involved for preparation. In this case, it is preferable to have all details about the layout and design rules communicated. Fonts should be supplied, graphics should be supplied (they might also contain text btw). If you want to get the translations back fully layouted (or get PDFs ready to publish), you should make sure that your source files are accurate in the way the layouts are set and formats and typography are used, so that no one has to guess what was originally intended. As you can see, b) may need a lot of communication, preparation and data transfer in both directions. It may of course be useful, but it only makes sense if there is a certain (recurring) amount of text to be translated, or if languages are involved where you can not provide the proper typesetting yourself. Regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
No doubt you're right, Rick. I'm in the If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail mode. I think Smart Paste is a great feature. Also, I think you can use it with zero thought in this case... All the gestures are menu commands already in the products. Worse, DITA is probably overkill -- OTOH, DITA might be a good format. Look at the Project Gutenberg DITA versions of classic texts. Here is a very quick way to convert a book to DITA without thinking about it much at all. For a one-off, this might be easy enough to do. I'm also thinking Smart Paste is a good way to get Word = HTML = Structured Maker. I think there's more promise in that use case. From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com To: 'Chris Despopoulos' despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; 'Theresa de Valence' t...@bstw.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 7:18 AM Subject: RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart Paste. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 4:51 AM To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker * Save as HTML * Open HTML in browser * Open a new DITA topic in Maker * Select the chapter and copy from the browser * Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cud From:Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Keep index visible for Framemaker Help v12 online?
On 2014-May-22 11:55 AM, Theresa de Valence wrote: Is there any way to keep the index visible when wandering through the Adobe website? I see those little left/right arrows but the following subjects don't make any sense to me; I'd rather click through a table-like index. It takes a lot of time to click to the top of the breadcrumbs to start the index again. I don't have FM 12 or use its Help, but I would suggest opening a browser tab with the index and then using whatever command your browser provides to open subsequent links in new tabs or new windows. When you've read a topic and want to return to the index, just close the topic tab/window. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
