Publish fails in Frame 12
Seems adobe.com is not frequented by Adobe tech support staff, or at least very often. Where does one go to find answers about Adobe products? I’ll recap my issues: Frame 12.0.3 document, my Fm book began with Frame Standard Template for User Guide. Looks fine in pdf. In Publish pod, am trying to generate an epub. When I first published my fm book to epub, the “publish” process worked correctly and I could read the log report. The epub was not correct however. So, understanding a bit more, I started a new Settings file and I have mapped: HeadingBook to h1 (Heading 1) HeadingVolume to h2 (Heading 2) Heading0 to h3 (Heading 3) Heading1 to h3 (Heading 3) Heading2 to h4 (Heading 4) Heading3 to h5 (Heading 5) all the Heading...TOC files to h6 (Heading 6) and BodyBegin to p.BodyLevel1 BodyContent to p.BodyLevel2 In ALL of the Style Mappings of paratags, NONE of the other tickboxes has been selected (e.g. Exclude from output, Pagination, Autonumber, etc.). Note that I have several fm paratags mapped to one HTML tag. No other paragraph tags or character tags in the fm document has been mapped. Although the process gives me the option to View Output, the output is not correct and I'm still getting MIF: C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Temp\TPUBTMP\FileName_A01.mif (5239): Value of Separation out of range (10) (this error is for the whole book) If I publish only one fm file I get MIF: C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Temp\TPUBTMP\FileName_.mif (5707): Value of Separation out of range (10) One more thought: Niels Grundtvig Nielsen suggested the problem might have to do with colour definitions and he discussed his directly modifying the MIF file which solved *his* problem. I've no idea *how* to modify the MIF file, so I’d rather not go there. BUT the Frame Standard Templates use a colour definition called “CorporateColor_Primary”, so please consider this amongst the issues. Suggestions? Thanks in advance, Theresa -- === Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com === ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Publish fails in Frame 12
At 09:33 -0500 2/10/14, Theresa de Valence wrote: Niels Grundtvig Nielsen suggested the problem might have to do with colour definitions and he discussed his directly modifying the MIF file which solved *his* problem. I've no idea *how* to modify the MIF file, so I'd rather not go there. I can't help with your specific problem, but as to the above, editing MIF can often be a productive, if last, resort. You need a good text editor, preferably one which does syntax coloring. I use TextWrangler, which is free, but is also I think Mac-only. TextWrangler is a cut-down version of BBedit, which is the premier language-sensitive editor for Mac OS. I'm sure there are equivalents for Windows. As for understanding the MIF, see the MIF language document that should have come with your FrameMaker distribution. This used to be called the 'MIF Reference Online Manual', but I've not checked to see if it still is. MIF is a text-only language that looks a bit like XML, so easy to search and edit, if a bit verbose. Save as MIF, but keep the .fm file. That way you still have the source document if it all goes a bit pear-shaped (which FrameMaker will tell you when it re-parses the MIF when asked to open the edited file). -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
On 2014-Oct-01 7:01 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: Stuart, I haven't had need to work with text insets, but I'm wondering if you can shorten your procedure by inserting the non-breaking space into the autonumber format for the InsetAnchor paragraph format, and setting its position to End of paragraph. It seems like that would automatically add it where you want. Have you tried it? I have. It did not work. The n-b space character appeared at the right margin, while the pilcrow remained at the left margin. When I placed the cursor ahead of the pilcrow and inserted the text inset, there was no character between it and the pilcrow. Updating the inset triggered the formatting bug. Thanks for the suggestion, though! s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
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Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs ... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
Some popular ones: EditPad EditPlus NotePad++ NoteTab Some of those may be free only for non-commercial use. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
Anything you like. John X Posada AML Syst Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC RC Systems Control Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY ___ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal cellphone - 732-259-2874 Mobile Company Blackberry - 224-600-0570 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com ___ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! | | From: | | --| |Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com | --| | | To:| | --| |framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com | --| | | Date: | | --| |10/02/2014 03:20 PM | --| | | Subject: | | --| |What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files? | --| | | Sent by: | | --| |framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com | --| Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.x.posada%40us.hsbc.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and
Re: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
Only real choice is Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/) On Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:27 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Some popular ones: EditPad EditPlus NotePad++ NoteTab Some of those may be free only for non-commercial use. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
NotePad++ is GNU Licensed and absolutely free. It saves in a bunch of different formats; very handy. - Original Message - From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com To: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com, framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 3:27:19 PM Subject: Re: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files? Some popular ones: EditPad EditPlus NotePad++ NoteTab Some of those may be free only for non-commercial use. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jackdel...@comcast.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jackdeland%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
At 12:23 -0700 2/10/14, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. Main reason AFAIK is what happens to the text holding a table anchor when FrameMaker moves the table to the next page: some of the para holding the anchor is dragged there too, leaving excess white space at the foot of the preceding page. There are many ways around this, but most of them become easier to manage if the table anchor lives in its own para. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
Notepad++ (http://www.notepad-plus-plus.org/) is my text editor of choice. If you're into trying exciting, fresh, new things, Atom (https://atom.io/) is the cool new thing from the creators of GitHub. I haven't played with it much though. Adam -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de Valence Sent: October-02-14 3:18 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files? Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as adam.holl...@solacesystems.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/adam.hollett%40solacesystems.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs ... It gives you greater control over spacing and positioning, without having to override the preceding paragraph's tag settings. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
Notepad++ is probably the best of the free/OSS editors; however, I don't know if it supports syntax highlighting for MIF. This may not matter to you, but it does make life easier when editing files. If you can spare a few dollars, TextPad is a good editor and does have syntax highlighting for MIF (and many, many other languages and formats). http://www.textpad.com/add-ons/synh2m.html Regards Keith -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Adam Hollett Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 3:36 PM To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files? Notepad++ (http://www.notepad-plus-plus.org/) is my text editor of choice. If you're into trying exciting, fresh, new things, Atom (https://atom.io/) is the cool new thing from the creators of GitHub. I haven't played with it much though. Adam NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files?
Notepad++ does not have syntax highlighting for MIF. It's hard to find user-created syntax highlighting for Notepad++ unless it's a very popular syntax. I don't imagine anyone has defined MIF in their spare time. I forgot to mention Subline Text (http://www.sublimetext.com/), a very popular editor which has a trial version that I believe can be used indefinitely. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keith Soltys Sent: October-02-14 3:55 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files? Notepad++ is probably the best of the free/OSS editors; however, I don't know if it supports syntax highlighting for MIF. This may not matter to you, but it does make life easier when editing files. If you can spare a few dollars, TextPad is a good editor and does have syntax highlighting for MIF (and many, many other languages and formats). http://www.textpad.com/add-ons/synh2m.html Regards Keith -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Adam Hollett Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 3:36 PM To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: What free Windows text editor should I use to look at MIF files? Notepad++ (http://www.notepad-plus-plus.org/) is my text editor of choice. If you're into trying exciting, fresh, new things, Atom (https://atom.io/) is the cool new thing from the creators of GitHub. I haven't played with it much though. Adam NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as adam.holl...@solacesystems.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/adam.hollett%40solacesystems.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stuart Rogerssrog...@phoenix-geophysics.com srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs ... It gives you greater control over spacing and positioning, without having to override the preceding paragraph's tag settings. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What are the steps to accessing a file
Hi, guys...I'm having discussion with my service support people over what I deem to be poor network access speed of FM files. I'm trying to define what FM does when it accesses a series of files from the perspective of disk and network read/writes, for something such as search and replace. It would be in the form similar to the following, for unstructured: Access file on disk Download to application. Apply file lock and write locked file to disk Write duplicate of file on disk as backup Perform examination in file and make changes necessary Write file to disk Delete lock file. I'm sure I don't have this exactly right...anyone know better? John X Posada AML Syst Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC RC Systems Control Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY ___ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal cellphone - 732-259-2874 Mobile Company Blackberry - 224-600-0570 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com ___ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What are the steps to accessing a file
If you're talking about doing a find and replace across a .book with none of the .fm files open, my impression is that it iterates through the files as follows: - create .lck file - read file into memory - make changes - write to disk - delete .lck file I think that's one of those FM features that is so old that it should be avoided. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:35 PM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote: Hi, guys...I'm having discussion with my service support people over what I deem to be poor network access speed of FM files. I'm trying to define what FM does when it accesses a series of files from the perspective of disk and network read/writes, for something such as search and replace. It would be in the form similar to the following, for unstructured: Access file on disk Download to application. Apply file lock and write locked file to disk Write duplicate of file on disk as backup Perform examination in file and make changes necessary Write file to disk Delete lock file. I'm sure I don't have this exactly right...anyone know better? John X Posada AML Syst Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC RC Systems Control Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY ___ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal cellphone - 732-259-2874 Mobile Company Blackberry - 224-600-0570 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com ___ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a single-source environment, headings are more flexible. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
Not a bad idea, but this is the corporate style. We're also not single-sourcing. (We were moving to that, but then the company got acquired and the techcomm department was decentralized. But that's a whole other story.) Even if it were my call, I'm not sure I'd go that way. If the table splits across a page, you lose the title. And these tables can go on for a couple of pages, depending on the content.. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a single-source environment, headings are more flexible. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
If the heading is in the header or footer, you don't lose the title. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: Not a bad idea, but this is the corporate style. We're also not single-sourcing. (We were moving to that, but then the company got acquired and the techcomm department was decentralized. But that's a whole other story.) Even if it were my call, I'm not sure I'd go that way. If the table splits across a page, you lose the title. And these tables can go on for a couple of pages, depending on the content.. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a single-source environment, headings are more flexible. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
