RE: . PDF query
Dennis, You're not the first person to report this problem. I doubt you're doing anything wrong, it's just FrameMaker being buggy. I'd encourage you to report it at Adobe's bug report page https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:31:14 + From: Denis Daly d.d...@icpnewtech.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: PDF query Message-ID: e2684a3ed8374ac79e0450223f494...@am3pr01mb0646.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, My name is Denis Daly. I have recently started using FrameMaker. I have had an odd issue today. I saved an individual chapter as a PDF and about 40% of the images were not present. They are available in the 'Graphics' folder. I resaved and the same thing happened. I then saved a third time but selected RGB instead of CYMK; all images were present. I am using FM 12 with the recent update installed. Can anyone explain this behaviour, please? *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF query
Indeed - A pity none of these experts ever manage to get their expert opinion manifested in the FrameMaker user guide / online help, though! David Message: 5 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:31:08 -0500 From: Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: PDF query Message-ID: 5441d0ec.60...@mikewickham.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Actually, Frame print to PDF was the gold standard. Save as PDF was so buggy that all experts recommended against using it. Mike Wickham On 10/17/2014 4:46 PM, Lin Sims wrote: Frame to PDF used to be the gold standard for PDF production. :( *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: . PDF query
Thanks to everyone who replied. I appreciate all your comments. I will report the issue to Adobe as recommended by David Davis. I have just saved the Book as a PDF (RGB selected) and all the images and text appear to be present. We will eventually wish to send to a print company though. I hope Adobe are able to fix this bug. In the meantime I will investigate the .ai issue and see if that is causing my problem. Thanks again, Denis -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Davis, David Sent: 20 October 2014 08:56 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: . PDF query Dennis, You're not the first person to report this problem. I doubt you're doing anything wrong, it's just FrameMaker being buggy. I'd encourage you to report it at Adobe's bug report page https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:31:14 + From: Denis Daly d.d...@icpnewtech.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: PDF query Message-ID: e2684a3ed8374ac79e0450223f494...@am3pr01mb0646.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, My name is Denis Daly. I have recently started using FrameMaker. I have had an odd issue today. I saved an individual chapter as a PDF and about 40% of the images were not present. They are available in the 'Graphics' folder. I resaved and the same thing happened. I then saved a third time but selected RGB instead of CYMK; all images were present. I am using FM 12 with the recent update installed. Can anyone explain this behaviour, please? *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as d.d...@icpnewtech.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/d.daly%40icpnewtech.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query
Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the screen, who knows? It's be close but depends on the color correctness of the particular monitor. Craig Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 03:07:58 +0200 whatever the theoretical and technical differences of RGB and CMYK colours are: The FrameMaker RGB output of CMYK-colours is not even close to how the CMYK output looks like. I am (still) using FM 10, btw. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query
Well, Craig, thats easy to explain: When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will not change its screen representation if I switch from CMYK definition to RGB definition. That is not a miracle or a question of who knows (these programs use HSB definitions, and obviously the conversion works very well). With FrameMaker, on the other hand, a CMYK colour will not look right neither on screen nor in the resulting PDF. And only with the CMYK print option activated that has been implemented successfully with FM 10, this colour information will be transfered to the PDF correctly. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Craig Ede: Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the screen, who knows? It's be close but depends on the color correctness of the particular monitor. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: . PDF query
Since I started seriously learning FrameMaker (7.0) I have always been advised against using SaveAs PDF but instead print to file using whatever the name has been each version of the Adobe PostScript printer engine. Takes af few more clicks but saves a lot of trouble. Still do it several versions higher. Regards, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Davis, David david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote: Dennis, You're not the first person to report this problem. I doubt you're doing anything wrong, it's just FrameMaker being buggy. I'd encourage you to report it at Adobe's bug report page https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:31:14 + From: Denis Daly d.d...@icpnewtech.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: PDF query Message-ID: e2684a3ed8374ac79e0450223f494...@am3pr01mb0646.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, My name is Denis Daly. I have recently started using FrameMaker. I have had an odd issue today. I saved an individual chapter as a PDF and about 40% of the images were not present. They are available in the 'Graphics' folder. I resaved and the same thing happened. I then saved a third time but selected RGB instead of CYMK; all images were present. I am using FM 12 with the recent update installed. Can anyone explain this behaviour, please? *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: . PDF query
On 10/20/2014 3:33 AM, Denis Daly wrote: We will eventually wish to send to a print company though. I hope Adobe are able to fix this bug. Here are a few tips if you plan to send to a print company: 1. Use EPS or PDF graphics. FrameMaker normally passes everything through the Windows GDI, which converts CMYK graphics back to RGB. EPS and PDF graphics are passed around the GDI, unchanged. 2. In maker.ini, set GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK=None. This gives the best match of screen and PDF colors. 3. In Distiller, check the color management settings of your PDF Preset (.joboptions file). For Settings Edit Adobe PDF Settings Color Tab Color Management Policies, do not set Tag Everything for Color Management. This can cause text to print as four colors instead of black only. Hope that helps. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: . PDF query
My recollection may be faulty, but I seem to recall Dov Isaacs saying the issues with Save As PDF had been fixed a while ago. Now if they can just fix the broken Esc keyboard shortcuts. Lin On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.com wrote: Since I started seriously learning FrameMaker (7.0) I have always been advised against using SaveAs PDF but instead print to file using whatever the name has been each version of the Adobe PostScript printer engine. Takes af few more clicks but saves a lot of trouble. Still do it several versions higher. Regards, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Davis, David david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote: Dennis, You're not the first person to report this problem. I doubt you're doing anything wrong, it's just FrameMaker being buggy. I'd encourage you to report it at Adobe's bug report page https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:31:14 + From: Denis Daly d.d...@icpnewtech.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: PDF query Message-ID: e2684a3ed8374ac79e0450223f494...@am3pr01mb0646.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, My name is Denis Daly. I have recently started using FrameMaker. I have had an odd issue today. I saved an individual chapter as a PDF and about 40% of the images were not present. They are available in the 'Graphics' folder. I resaved and the same thing happened. I then saved a third time but selected RGB instead of CYMK; all images were present. I am using FM 12 with the recent update installed. Can anyone explain this behaviour, please? *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: . PDF query
A recurring problem is that Dov Isaacs says something, and it’s repeated like a mantra by everyone for the next 15 years even when subsequent changes may have made that particular advice obsolete… But then we also have situation when Dov tells that the advice *is* still relevant, but for some reason it still hasn’t made it into the actual FrameMaker help files. I’m undecided as to which scenario is to more annoying ☺ From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 October 2014 15:59 To: Böðvar Björgvinsson Cc: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: . PDF query My recollection may be faulty, but I seem to recall Dov Isaacs saying the issues with Save As PDF had been fixed a while ago. Now if they can just fix the broken Esc keyboard shortcuts. Lin On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.commailto:bod...@gmail.com wrote: Since I started seriously learning FrameMaker (7.0) I have always been advised against using SaveAs PDF but instead print to file using whatever the name has been each version of the Adobe PostScript printer engine. Takes af few more clicks but saves a lot of trouble. Still do it several versions higher. Regards, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query
It’s definitely NOT easy to explain this. Color conversions are COMPLEX. Anyway, RGB - CMYK conversion is lossy, and CMYK - RGB is also lossy. What is the point of the RGB switch afterall? Why not just pass through what’s input and remove this switch? Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer _ Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Paradis Allé 22, Ramløse DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Mobile: +45 2021 1958 Phone: +45 4848 0096 Email: mailto:j...@grafikhuset.dk j...@grafikhuset.dk Web: http://design.grafikhuset.dk/ http://design.grafikhuset.dk From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Heiko Haida Sent: 20. oktober 2014 16:22 To: Craig Ede Cc: framers Subject: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query Well, Craig, thats easy to explain: When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will not change its screen representation if I switch from CMYK definition to RGB definition. That is not a miracle or a question of who knows (these programs use HSB definitions, and obviously the conversion works very well). With FrameMaker, on the other hand, a CMYK colour will not look right neither on screen nor in the resulting PDF. And only with the CMYK print option activated that has been implemented successfully with FM 10, this colour information will be transfered to the PDF correctly. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Craig Ede: Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the screen, who knows? It's be close but depends on the color correctness of the particular monitor. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query
Hi Jacob, my point here is: The CMYK option in FM is not something like a fancy gadget (that is how I understood what Craig said earlier), but essential for a correct colour representation in certain constellations. Here is an example, I enclose a screenshot: 2 rectangular objects are visible, with colours defined as CMYK = 100/70/0/0 and 100/0/20/20. To the left, that is the (correct) representation in Illustrator. To the right, thats what it looks like in FrameMaker (obviously not correct). In the middle that is the PDF output with the CMYK option not activated (which is the standard - and only possible - behaviour of all older FM version up to FM 10). With the CMYK option activated on the other hand, the PDF output would in fact look exactly like in Illustrator. And if this PDF is converted afterwards to RGB via Acrobat preflight, the colours would still be perfect on screen. If you know a better or easier way or working settings for FM or Acrobat, please tell me. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Jacob Schäffer: It's definitely NOT easy to explain this. Color conversions are COMPLEX. Anyway, RGB - CMYK conversion is lossy, and CMYK - RGB is also lossy. What is the point of the RGB switch afterall? Why not just pass through what's input and remove this switch? Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer - Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Paradis Allé 22, Ramløse DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Mobile: +45 2021 1958 Phone: +45 4848 0096 Email: j...@grafikhuset.dk Web: http://design.grafikhuset.dk [1] FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Heiko Haida SENT: 20. oktober 2014 16:22 TO: Craig Ede CC: framers SUBJECT: RE: CMYK vs RGB RE: PDF query Well, Craig, thats easy to explain: When I use Illustrator or Indesign, a colour will not change its screen representation if I switch from CMYK definition to RGB definition. That is not a miracle or a question of who knows (these programs use HSB definitions, and obviously the conversion works very well). With FrameMaker, on the other hand, a CMYK colour will not look right neither on screen nor in the resulting PDF. And only with the CMYK print option activated that has been implemented successfully with FM 10, this colour information will be transfered to the PDF correctly. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Craig Ede: Given the theoretical differences I'm not sure why you would expect RGB output of CMYK colors to be close to what CMYK color should looks like. Think of it this way, if you choose a Pantone color as a spot color, you'd expect it to print exactly like as that Pantone color to paper. But to the screen, who knows? It's be close but depends on the color correctness of the particular monitor. Craig Links: -- [1] http://design.grafikhuset.dk/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: . PDF query
The reason this hasn't been fixed is that it's a Microsoft OS problem, not a FrameMaker problem. It's been made better, but Microsoft is still the culprit. Under the Apple OS, this was a non-problem because there was no translation from CMYK to RGB. They were separate attributes. On Oct 20, 2014, at 10:16, Davis, David david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote: A recurring problem is that Dov Isaacs says something, and it’s repeated like a mantra by everyone for the next 15 years even when subsequent changes may have made that particular advice obsolete… But then we also have situation when Dov tells that the advice *is* still relevant, but for some reason it still hasn’t made it into the actual FrameMaker help files. I’m undecided as to which scenario is to more annoying J From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 October 2014 15:59 To: Böðvar Björgvinsson Cc: Davis, David; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: . PDF query My recollection may be faulty, but I seem to recall Dov Isaacs saying the issues with Save As PDF had been fixed a while ago. Now if they can just fix the broken Esc keyboard shortcuts. Lin On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.com wrote: Since I started seriously learning FrameMaker (7.0) I have always been advised against using SaveAs PDF but instead print to file using whatever the name has been each version of the Adobe PostScript printer engine. Takes af few more clicks but saves a lot of trouble. Still do it several versions higher. Regards, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
wrapping DITA steps in tables
Hi everyone When we publish PDFs from our DITA source files, we want to put our tasks in tables. I think that means we want to change the steps element into a 2-column table, such that every step becomes a row. Text from the cmd element would go into the first column, and text from the info element would go into the second column. Is it possible to do this through the EDD (or the read/write rules)? Or is there a plug-in that'd do it? I've poked at the EDD syntax but I couldn't see anything likely. If not, we'll do it through a script, but I wanted to check with people here before going down that path. We're publishing through DITA-FMx, in case that makes a difference. Thanks very much Rebecca ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
