Merge Multiple Doc Styles
Karen, Rick makes a good point that a complete template should include more than just paragraph tags and mentioned Character and Table formats. I went thru this about 1.5 years ago and found inconsistencies in the following areas: - Conditional Text tags - Variable and Running Header/Footer definitions - Master Page layouts - Reference page contents - Color definitions - Cross Ref formats - Text Options - Footnotes - HTML setup (only if saving as HTML) As a rough rule of thumb, your template should include everything that is selectable from the Import Formats pop-up menu. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 Hi Karen, Here is how I would approach the problem. Find the component the book that is the most solid as far as styles. Make a copy of this and call it your "template." Delete all of the paragraph format formats in this document that still need work, leaving only the solid formats. For each of your other components, identify a one or more styles that you know that are in good shape. Think in terms of categories; for example, maybe you spent a lot of time getting your list styles in place in a particular document. Make a temporary copy of this document and delete all paragraph formats except the list styles. Now import these paragraph formats into your template and discard the temporary document. You do not necessarily have to do this in one sitting; you can do it over time as you work on your book. What you are doing is building up your template by adding solid formats to it. Since the paragraph catalog only contains your good formats, you can at any time import the paragraph formats from this document into all of the other components in the book. Once your template's paragraph catalog has the same number of formats as the book's components, then it should be pretty complete. You can do this process with your template's other categories of styles, like character and table formats. To round out the template, you could make this into a style guide for your book. When you want to modify or add formats in your book, do it in the style guide (template) first, and then import the formats into your book's components. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. rick at frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 Hello Frame Gurus, I'm rather new to the list so please bear with me. I have a book containing 12 files. Over time (starting before I ever worked with these files), each file's paragraph style sheet has been modified so that now the book's styles are a sea of inconsistency. Using Paragraph Tools I can reduce the mess to what's actually in use and eliminate what I don't need. I still need to re-name/spec what remains more consistently. To get one file's formats into another, I know I could import paragraph formats to individual files. But I would have to re-create all the formats in one document first (even though they already exist, spread throughout several documents). Will this give the same result as if a single merged style sheet had been applied to all files in the book? Is there another (more effective/efficient/reliable) way? Anticipating your wisdom Karen
Unexpected message when saving book file after changing conditional view
I'm getting an unexpected message when working on FM books that uses conditional tags. The message is listed below. The filename reported in the message (chiaTp_cover.fm in the example below) is always the first file in the book, all other files are saved without a message. "File C:\Documents and Settings\schween\Desktop\chiaTp\Sections\chiaTp_cover.fm has changed on the disk since you last opened or saved it. Someone else has probably modified the file. Do you want to save it anyway?" The message is generated as follows: 1. Open the book file. 2. Open all files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Open All Files in Book). 3. In the book window, select all files in the book, then change the conditional view (using View -> Show/Hide Conditional Text). 4. I then save all the files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Save All Files in Book) and get the message for only the first file in the book. 5. I click OK in the message window. A GIF image on the cover master page turns into a gray box, everything else seems fine. I put the GIF in an anchored frame, that solved the gray image problem. But I still get the message every time I change the conditional view and save the files. Other things I tried: - moving different files to the top of the book, the message always points to the first file in the book. - changing the conditional view on just the first file in the book (from the file window) and saving the file, I don't get the message. - created a new book (using File -> New -> Book) with two new chapter files (using File -> New -> Document -> Portrait) that include two new conditional tags, still get the message. - reinstalled FM, still get the message. - tried creating a new book with new chapter files on two co-worker's desktops, still get the message. Has anyone else seen this message? Is it something I should be concerned about? I'm running Frame 8.0p277 with Windows XP SP2 and also have Acrobat Professional 7 installed. The files are all on my local hard drive. Thanks in advance for any insight. ------ Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801
Great Leap
Murray, We upgraded in April 08 and use unstructured FM only. Had a few initial problems with FM8 crashing (once a day). New patches seems to have taken care of that, I don't even remember my last crash. Just make sure you get all the patches. The FM8 User Guide tells you to round trip to mif if opening files older than FM7. I did this as a precautionary. Couple of additional changes/improvements: * Vista and Office 2007 compatible (FM6 was Office 2000 I believe) Much better Word filter. * Ability to lock master page usage to paragraph tags (great for locking wide tables to landscape pages) * Option to display a Tab bar (similar to a Tab bar in a web browser) * Can embed 3D flash * While the Undo History is an improvement over the single Undo in FM6, I was a little disappointed that actions such as saving a file clear the Undo history. As Dave mentioned, you get a warning that can be turned off. * My mouse scroll wheel didn't work in FM6, but works in FM8. Bottom line, we're very happy with the upgrade. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 From: Dave Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Great Leap To: Murray Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Murray We also upgraded from FM6 to FM8 (on Win XP and 2000). I don't remember encountering any problems. I tested FM8 for our Tech Pubs group, and I made the following notes about what I noticed was different: * The Page Up and Page Down keys move the file up or down by one screen, not by one page. If you don't like this you can use the customui.cfg file to change it. * The Print PDF Setup dialog has more options. * Document Info (for a PDF file) is no longer set from the Print PDF Setup dialog. To enter Document Info in FM8: o from an open file select File File Info o from a book select the file(s) and select File File info, or right click on the selected file(s) and select File Info. * When selecting a font from the drop-down list in Paragraph Designer Default Font Family, you get a pop-up showing the font name in that font. * The file names in the book window are in a smaller font, or else they just look smaller because they're not bold anymore. * The page background in an open file now picks up the Window background colour from your Windows colour scheme. * The tool bar icons are slightly different. * If you get sick of the Undo history will be lost warning popping up every time you close and save a file, you can turn it off in File Preferences General. I don't think you will have any problems, but you should probably do some testing first. Cheers Dave Murray Moore wrote, on 2/12/2008 7:53 a.m.: I have an opportunity to leap several versions and upgrade from FM 6 to FM 8. My manager wants to know Do you see any issues migrating to 8 - it is seamless? All our old files are compatible? Any gotchas about which to beware? /\/\ Murray ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Great Leap
Murray, We upgraded in April 08 and use unstructured FM only. Had a few initial problems with FM8 crashing (once a day). New patches seems to have taken care of that, I don't even remember my last crash. Just make sure you get all the patches. The FM8 User Guide tells you to round trip to mif if opening files older than FM7. I did this as a precautionary. Couple of additional changes/improvements: * Vista and Office 2007 compatible (FM6 was Office 2000 I believe) Much better Word filter. * Ability to lock master page usage to paragraph tags (great for locking wide tables to landscape pages) * Option to display a Tab bar (similar to a Tab bar in a web browser) * Can embed 3D flash * While the Undo History is an improvement over the single Undo in FM6, I was a little disappointed that actions such as saving a file clear the Undo history. As Dave mentioned, you get a warning that can be turned off. * My mouse scroll wheel didn't work in FM6, but works in FM8. Bottom line, we're very happy with the upgrade. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 From: Dave Reynolds <dave.reyno...@tait.co.nz> Subject: Re: Great Leap To: Murray Moore Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <4934431E.1060203 at tait.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Murray We also upgraded from FM6 to FM8 (on Win XP and 2000). I don't remember encountering any problems. I tested FM8 for our Tech Pubs group, and I made the following notes about what I noticed was different: * The Page Up and Page Down keys move the file up or down by one screen, not by one page. If you don't like this you can use the customui.cfg file to change it. * The Print > PDF Setup dialog has more options. * "Document Info" (for a PDF file) is no longer set from the Print > PDF Setup dialog. To enter Document Info in FM8: o from an open file select File > File Info o from a book select the file(s) and select File > File info, or right click on the selected file(s) and select File Info. * When selecting a font from the drop-down list in Paragraph Designer > Default Font > Family, you get a pop-up showing the font name in that font. * The file names in the book window are in a smaller font, or else they just look smaller because they're not bold anymore. * The page background in an open file now picks up the "Window" background colour from your Windows colour scheme. * The tool bar icons are slightly different. * If you get sick of the "Undo history will be lost" warning popping up every time you close and save a file, you can turn it off in File > Preferences > General. I don't think you will have any problems, but you should probably do some testing first. Cheers Dave Murray Moore wrote, on 2/12/2008 7:53 a.m.: > I have an opportunity to leap several versions and upgrade from FM 6 to FM 8. > > My manager wants to know "Do you see any issues migrating to 8 - it is > seamless? All our old files are compatible?" > > Any gotchas about which to beware? > > /\/\ > Murray
character tags affecting PDF bookmarks
I have an FM book with the normal TOC, LOT, LOF auto-generated files. I save the book as PDF. In the Bookmarks pane of the resulting PDF file, each line in the TOC, LOT, and LOF are active PDF hyperlinks and work as expected with one exception. If my Headings (used in TOC), TableTitle (LOT), or FigureTitle (LOF) paragraph tags in my source FM files have a character tag applied to it, only part of line in the PDF file remains an active hyperlink. It seems like the hyperlink works from the start of the line, only up to where the character tag is applied. For example, suppose I have a TableTitle tag with the text Configuration Options. The entry in the auto-generated LOT would be: Table 1: Configuration Options . . . . . 2 With no character tag applied to this line, the entire line is an active hyperlink in the PDF file. If I apply a red character tag to the entire line in the source FM file, Table 1: remains an active hyperlink and is colored black, Configuration Options . . 2 is red and is no longer an active hyperlink in the PDF file. (I assume Table 1: still works since it is uses autonumbering.) If I apply a red character tag to just the word Options, Table 1: Configuration is black and an active hyperlink, Options . . 2 is red and not a hyperlink. If I generate a PDF file of just the chapter file (rather than a book-level PDF), applying a character tag to the TableTitle has no effect on the PDF bookmark (color or what works as a hyperlink). Can anyone explain this behavior? Why do character tags affect the PDF bookmarks only when the PDF is generated from the .book file, and not when I generate a PDF from the single file. I don't see anything in the PDF Options for controlling this I'm running FM8.0p277 on Windows XP. Thanks in advance for any input. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
character tags affecting PDF bookmarks
I have an FM book with the normal TOC, LOT, LOF auto-generated files. I save the book as PDF. In the Bookmarks pane of the resulting PDF file, each line in the TOC, LOT, and LOF are active PDF hyperlinks and work as expected with one exception. If my Headings (used in TOC), TableTitle (LOT), or FigureTitle (LOF) paragraph tags in my source FM files have a character tag applied to it, only part of line in the PDF file remains an active hyperlink. It seems like the hyperlink works from the start of the line, only up to where the character tag is applied. For example, suppose I have a TableTitle tag with the text "Configuration Options." The entry in the auto-generated LOT would be: Table 1: Configuration Options . . . . . 2 With no character tag applied to this line, the entire line is an active hyperlink in the PDF file. If I apply a "red" character tag to the entire line in the source FM file, "Table 1: " remains an active hyperlink and is colored black, "Configuration Options . . 2" is red and is no longer an active hyperlink in the PDF file. (I assume "Table 1:" still works since it is uses autonumbering.) If I apply a "red" character tag to just the word Options, "Table 1: Configuration" is black and an active hyperlink, "Options . . 2" is red and not a hyperlink. If I generate a PDF file of just the chapter file (rather than a book-level PDF), applying a character tag to the TableTitle has no effect on the PDF bookmark (color or what works as a hyperlink). Can anyone explain this behavior? Why do character tags affect the PDF bookmarks only when the PDF is generated from the .book file, and not when I generate a PDF from the single file. I don't see anything in the PDF Options for controlling this I'm running FM8.0p277 on Windows XP. Thanks in advance for any input. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801
re: Getting into Condition
John, If I understand your production cycle correctly, there may be an easier way than moving files around and tweaking your .book structure. I do something similar where I generate 2 books (call them A and B) from a set of common chapter files. I use a combination of two .book files (including corresponding separate TOC, LOF, LOT files) and conditional text to extract what I want for each book. This method minimizes duplicate files (e.g. two Introduction files) and minimizes what needs to be tagged as conditional. A given chapter file may contain context for: - only book A - only book B - both A and B Each .book file determines which chapter files are used in that book. Files that contain only A-specific content are included only the A.book file. Files that contain only B specific content are only in the B.book file. Files that contain content for both books are included in both .book files. Conditional text is only required in the files that are used in both books A and B. Content that is specific for only one book is must be marked with the appropriate conditional tag. This includes using conditional tags on my master pages for the book title. Content that is common to both books does not have to be tagged. When I want to update/print book A, I select all files in the A.book window, show A-conditional text, and hide all B-conditional text. Flip the conditional settings when building book B. If I did not use the two .book files, I would have a lot more conditional tagging to do. It really saves a ton of work. I have not tried this with four books, but I assume it works. I also don't use Structured Frame, so I can't comment on that. HTH -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 John wrote: FrameMaker 8 unstructured After years and years of working with FrameMaker, I am finally venturing into (for me) uncharted territory: the wild world of conditional text. I am not completely sure I understand what I am getting into, so I hope for some advice from this august body. I produce three types of deliverables from a single source, and am adding a fourth deliverable: Printed, OnlineDoc, OnlineHelp, and now Training. So far I have managed it all without conditions. The Training materials will have some content that is not in the others, so conditional text seems the way to go. My normal routine is to finish the writing phase and then to movine into production of each deliverable one at a time, moving the source files into a series of output folders for each deliverable. I go to Online Doc folder and generate the color PDF. Then I go to Print Doc folder and generate the hi-res B/W PDF. Then I go to Online Help, change the book structure around a bit, and generate help with Mif2Go. Now I am adding a fourth output, Training Materials, which will be PDF workbooks with another different book structure. Does it make sense to have four conditions (listed above), each of which is shown throughout the writing phase of the project, and then shown/hidden as I produce each of the deliverables? I hope to move into Structured FrameMaker soon - am I making that project more complex by introducing conditions now? A Lucky Strike! Extra question: the trainer wants x-refs to books in the printed doc set. I know how to keep live x-refs within the training materials, but I really can't imagine a way to keep good references to external books. John Sgammato Principal Technical Writer Imprivata, Inc. [v] (781) 674-2441 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Getting into Condition
John, If I understand your production cycle correctly, there may be an easier way than moving files around and tweaking your .book structure. I do something similar where I generate 2 books (call them A and B) from a set of common chapter files. I use a combination of two .book files (including corresponding separate TOC, LOF, LOT files) and conditional text to extract what I want for each book. This method minimizes duplicate files (e.g. two Introduction files) and minimizes what needs to be tagged as conditional. A given chapter file may contain context for: - only book A - only book B - both A and B Each .book file determines which chapter files are used in that book. Files that contain only A-specific content are included only the A.book file. Files that contain only B specific content are only in the B.book file. Files that contain content for both books are included in both .book files. Conditional text is only required in the files that are used in both books A and B. Content that is specific for only one book is must be marked with the appropriate conditional tag. This includes using conditional tags on my master pages for the book title. Content that is common to both books does not have to be tagged. When I want to update/print book A, I select all files in the A.book window, show A-conditional text, and hide all B-conditional text. Flip the conditional settings when building book B. If I did not use the two .book files, I would have a lot more conditional tagging to do. It really saves a ton of work. I have not tried this with four books, but I assume it works. I also don't use Structured Frame, so I can't comment on that. HTH -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 John wrote: After years and years of working with FrameMaker, I am finally venturing into (for me) uncharted territory: the wild world of conditional text. I am not completely sure I understand what I am getting into, so I hope for some advice from this august body. I produce three types of deliverables from a single source, and am adding a fourth deliverable: Printed, OnlineDoc, OnlineHelp, and now Training. So far I have managed it all without conditions. The Training materials will have some content that is not in the others, so conditional text seems the way to go. My normal routine is to finish the writing phase and then to movine into production of each deliverable one at a time, moving the source files into a series of output folders for each deliverable. I go to Online Doc folder and generate the color PDF. Then I go to Print Doc folder and generate the hi-res B/W PDF. Then I go to Online Help, change the book structure around a bit, and generate help with Mif2Go. Now I am adding a fourth output, Training Materials, which will be PDF workbooks with another different book structure. Does it make sense to have four conditions (listed above), each of which is shown throughout the writing phase of the project, and then shown/hidden as I produce each of the deliverables? I hope to move into Structured FrameMaker soon - am I making that project more complex by introducing conditions now? A Lucky Strike! Extra question: the trainer wants x-refs to books in the printed doc set. I know how to keep live x-refs within the training materials, but I really can't imagine a way to keep good references to external books. John Sgammato Principal Technical Writer Imprivata, Inc. [v] (781) 674-2441
Missing font error messages when Saving as PDF
When I use the File - Save as PDF option, I may or may not get font substitution messages in the Frame Console, depending on what printer I have selected. I understand (I think) that FM uses your default printer fonts, rather than your system fonts. But I don't understand the following scenario. I've noticed it on my working files, and it is duplicated on a new file. I open a new portrait document and type anything (just the letter A). I have a network printer (call it NP) selected as my default. I do a File - Save as PDF and I get the following message. This occurs on all 3 of the different models of network printers I tried. The Times Font is not available. Times New Roman will be used in this session. I change my printer to Adobe PDF, do the File - Save as PDF, and I don't get the error message. This would imply to me that: - The file uses the Times font - Adobe PDF includes the Times font, but NP does not. I tried finding the Times font in the file using the following methods and can't find any occurrences. - Using Find, searching for Charter Format : Times (everything else as is). I searched the Body, Master, and Reference pages. - I converted the file to MIF and searched the MIF for any occurrences of the Times font. Couple other notes: - I don't get any font substitution messages when opening the file, regardless of the selected printer. - My preferences are set to Remember missing fonts. - Using FM 8.0p277 and XP Pro with SP2. So my question is, what is causes the Times font message? Does the file actually contain something that uses the Times font? If so, how do I find it? Is there some interaction with the selected printer fonts and using the Save as PDF that I don't understand? Is there a PDF setting that I can apply to get rid of this message? Thanks, any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Missing font error messages when Saving as PDF
When I use the File -> Save as PDF option, I may or may not get font substitution messages in the Frame Console, depending on what printer I have selected. I understand (I think) that FM uses your default printer fonts, rather than your system fonts. But I don't understand the following scenario. I've noticed it on my working files, and it is duplicated on a new file. I open a new portrait document and type anything (just the letter "A"). I have a network printer (call it NP) selected as my default. I do a File -> Save as PDF and I get the following message. This occurs on all 3 of the different models of network printers I tried. The "Times" Font is not available. "Times New Roman" will be used in this session. I change my printer to Adobe PDF, do the File -> Save as PDF, and I don't get the error message. This would imply to me that: - The file uses the Times font - Adobe PDF includes the Times font, but NP does not. I tried finding the Times font in the file using the following methods and can't find any occurrences. - Using Find, searching for Charter Format : Times (everything else "as is"). I searched the Body, Master, and Reference pages. - I converted the file to MIF and searched the MIF for any occurrences of the Times font. Couple other notes: - I don't get any font substitution messages when opening the file, regardless of the selected printer. - My preferences are set to "Remember missing fonts." - Using FM 8.0p277 and XP Pro with SP2. So my question is, what is causes the Times font message? Does the file actually contain something that uses the Times font? If so, how do I find it? Is there some interaction with the selected printer fonts and using the Save as PDF that I don't understand? Is there a PDF setting that I can apply to get rid of this message? Thanks, any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc.
Cannot Be Undone message every time I save!
Hi Marianne, I use FM8, not 7.2 like you have. With FM8, you can control this under the File -> Preferences -> General settings. You have the option to: Turn them off, Show once for every history clearing command, or Always. Sounds like you have this set to Always. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801
Problem with embedded Excel table
I'm having a problem when embedding Excel tables into FM8. In looking at the archives, a similar post was made on this on May 27, without a solution. I do a File - Import - Object - MS Office Excel Worksheet (with the Create New box checked) to embed a spreadsheet. On screen, the spreadsheet looks fine. When I print the file (even with a blank spreadsheet), the worksheet prints as a solid black box. Also, if I convert to PDF, the embedded spreadsheet turns into a solid black box in the PDF file. I expanded the anchor frame that holds the embedded spreadsheet and shaded it. This confirmed that only the spreadsheet is colored black. I can successfully embedded a Word, PPT, and Visio file without this problem. I tried this with Frame 6 and get the same problem only with Excel tables. I poked around in Excel and don't see anything in the menus that would cause this. I can shade cells in Excel, and on screen, the FM file reflects the shaded cells. But when I print, the whole spreadsheet is solid black. I'm running FM8 version 8.0p277 with Windows XP SP2 and Office 2007. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Problem with embedded Excel table
I'm having a problem when embedding Excel tables into FM8. In looking at the archives, a similar post was made on this on May 27, without a solution. I do a File -> Import -> Object -> MS Office Excel Worksheet (with the Create New box checked) to embed a spreadsheet. On screen, the spreadsheet looks fine. When I print the file (even with a blank spreadsheet), the worksheet prints as a solid black box. Also, if I convert to PDF, the embedded spreadsheet turns into a solid black box in the PDF file. I expanded the anchor frame that holds the embedded spreadsheet and shaded it. This confirmed that only the spreadsheet is colored black. I can successfully embedded a Word, PPT, and Visio file without this problem. I tried this with Frame 6 and get the same problem only with Excel tables. I poked around in Excel and don't see anything in the menus that would cause this. I can shade cells in Excel, and on screen, the FM file reflects the shaded cells. But when I print, the whole spreadsheet is solid black. I'm running FM8 version 8.0p277 with Windows XP SP2 and Office 2007. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ------ Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801
Import Formats - Document Properties List
Hi, I'm looking for a complete list of what gets imported when doing a File - Import - Formats - Document Properties. I'm running FM8 Windows. I looked at the FM8 User Guide, but I don't believe the list provided on page 417 is complete. For example, information set under File - File Info gets imported, but is not listed in the User Guide. Thanks in advance, -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Import Formats - Document Properties List
Hi, I'm looking for a complete list of what gets imported when doing a File -> Import -> Formats -> Document Properties. I'm running FM8 Windows. I looked at the FM8 User Guide, but I don't believe the list provided on page 417 is complete. For example, information set under File -> File Info gets imported, but is not listed in the User Guide. Thanks in advance, -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801
Upgrade to Frame 8
Hi Joyce, I've also experienced this feature and have come across a repeatable pattern of failure. Can others try this and report back whether it fails for them also? I'm experiencing problems with dropped characters in text lines. Also, I've noticed the history doesn't seem to log all changes made to text lines. The problem can be duplicated as follows: 1. Open a new portrait blank document and add an anchored frame. (recorded in history) 2. Add a text line inside the anchored frame from the Tools Palette. In the text line, type 1234 (recorded in history). 3. Save the file. (history cleared) 4. Click the cursor after the 4 in the text line and hit a carriage return to create a new text line. (not recorded in history) 5. In the new text line, type 1234567890(not recorded in history) 6. Save the file. 7. Refresh the screen (cntl l) and the second text line now reads 12346890 (dropped the 5 and 7). Printing the file in steps 5 and 6 also show the 5 and 7 are missing. 8. Add a new text line inside the anchored frame from the Tools Palette. In the text line, type 12345 (recorded in history). 9. Save the file. (history cleared) 10. Click the cursor after the 5 in the text line from step 8 and hit a carriage return to create a new text line. (not recorded in history) 11. In the new text line, type 1234567890(not recorded in history) 12. Save the file. 13. Refresh the screen and the second text line now reads 12345790 (dropped the 6 and 8). I get this to fail every time running the trial version 8.0p273 on two different XP SP2 systems. Joyce wrote: All - I have noticed both the issues reported by John, and have another to add. When I use the text tool to add a callout inside an anchored frame - as I've done for years with previous versions of FrameMaker - the text changes. That is, random letters disappear. I've seen it happen several times, even after saving. But if I place the callout inside a text frame (inside the anchored frame), it's OK. Has anyone else experienced this feature? Joyce -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Hi Joyce, I've also experienced this "feature" and have come across a repeatable pattern of failure. Can others try this and report back whether it fails for them also? I'm experiencing problems with dropped characters in text lines. Also, I've noticed the history doesn't seem to log all changes made to text lines. The problem can be duplicated as follows: 1. Open a new portrait blank document and add an anchored frame. (recorded in history) 2. Add a text line inside the anchored frame from the Tools Palette. In the text line, type "1234" (recorded in history). 3. Save the file. (history cleared) 4. Click the cursor after the "4" in the text line and hit a carriage return to create a new text line. (not recorded in history) 5. In the new text line, type "1234567890"(not recorded in history) 6. Save the file. 7. Refresh the screen (cntl l) and the second text line now reads "12346890" (dropped the 5 and 7). Printing the file in steps 5 and 6 also show the 5 and 7 are missing. 8. Add a new text line inside the anchored frame from the Tools Palette. In the text line, type "12345" (recorded in history). 9. Save the file. (history cleared) 10. Click the cursor after the "5" in the text line from step 8 and hit a carriage return to create a new text line. (not recorded in history) 11. In the new text line, type "1234567890"(not recorded in history) 12. Save the file. 13. Refresh the screen and the second text line now reads "12345790" (dropped the 6 and 8). I get this to fail every time running the trial version 8.0p273 on two different XP SP2 systems. Joyce wrote: All - I have noticed both the issues reported by John, and have another to add. When I use the text tool to add a callout inside an anchored frame - as I've done for years with previous versions of FrameMaker - the text changes. That is, random letters disappear. I've seen it happen several times, even after saving. But if I place the callout inside a text frame (inside the anchored frame), it's OK. Has anyone else experienced this "feature"? Joyce -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801
