Re: [Framers] FrameScript 7
Thanks for the vigilance and intervention, Carol. The post was inappropriate on multiple levels. Mollye Barrett On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 3:32 PM FrameUsers Admin wrote: > Framers, > > I wanted to apologize to the members of this Listserv for yesterday's > email containing profanity. The listserv member who wrote the email > has been censured and put on moderated status with the promise that > if it happens again, he will be unsubscribed. Our Framers Listserv > has, for years, maintained a tone of civility, even when members > disagree with each other. His language was offensive and in violation > of the List Rules (http://www.frameusers.com/community/). > > I appreciate everyone's help to prevent this thread from going any > further. It is certainly permissible to discuss pros and cons of > products that we use as adjuncts to Framemaker. It is not acceptable > to flame, profane, or attack any list member. If you have any > questions or further comments, please email me or Rick Quatro off-list. > > Now, back to our regularly scheduled, civil, and helpful Framers Listserv. > > Carol Elkins > Listserv Moderator > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: How to force capital letters in a generated Index?
I would edit the markers...especially if there are foreign languages! -- Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mol...@clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.comwrote: You're best to edit the markers and not rely on a quick fix via formatting. I don't know if it's available for or compatible with FM 11 but IXGen is ideal for your needs. http://www.fsatools.com/ If you can't use or purchase IXGen, you're best to use a generated index or list of markers to produce a file with cross references to each marker, then Ctrl+click to edit each one. On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Studio Smalbro stu...@smalbro.dk wrote: I am generating an Index in FrameMaker 11, but the index words have been inserted in the markers with a mix of capital letters and small letters. It's a big index and I would like to be able to force all words to have the first character as a capital letter. Can I somehow tweak the paragraph style into doing this or is there any other kind of FrameMaker magic which will do the trick? regards Bjørn Smalbro __**_ You are currently subscribed to framers as techcommd...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe@lists.**frameusers.comframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/**mailman/options/framers/** techcommdood%40gmail.comhttp://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Bill Swallow Writing and Content Strategy Consultant http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mol...@clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How to force capital letters in a generated Index?
I would edit the markers...especially if there are foreign languages! -- Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mollye at clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Bill Swallow wrote: > You're best to edit the markers and not rely on a quick fix via formatting. > > I don't know if it's available for or compatible with FM 11 but IXGen is > ideal for your needs. http://www.fsatools.com/ > > If you can't use or purchase IXGen, you're best to use a generated index > or list of markers to produce a file with cross references to each marker, > then Ctrl+click to edit each one. > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Studio Smalbro wrote: > >> I am generating an Index in FrameMaker 11, but the index words have been >> inserted in the markers with a mix of capital letters and small letters. >> It's a big index and I would like to be able to force all words to have the >> first character as a capital letter. Can I somehow tweak the paragraph >> style into doing this or is there any other kind of FrameMaker magic which >> will do the trick? >> >> regards >> Bj?rn Smalbro >> __**_ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.**frameusers.com> lists.frameusers.com> >> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/**mailman/options/framers/** >> techcommdood%40gmail.com<http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com> >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > > > -- > Bill Swallow > Writing and Content Strategy Consultant > http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20121218/1039c26c/attachment.html>
Re: Template for four-page brochure?
Hi Nancy, First thing, I would mock-up a dummy of the front and back layout of the piece. Determine things like margins, color,/bleeds, crop/trim, paper stock, tumble, etc. After that, call the printer. Talk specs with them and find out what they need to print. Do they prefer a PDF and how do they need it generated? What file format and resolution? Some printers will do the imposition; you provide a standard size and they will arrange for print. If you create the layout yourself, consider how the front and back will align (left, right and center). Frame can handle most print requirements but plan carefully for color challenges. The printer is your friend! Mollye -- Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mol...@clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: In 20+ years of using FrameMaker, I've never had to do this before. I need to create a template for a four-page Quick Start Card that will print on a piece of 11 x 17 paper that will be folded once to produce four pages. I don't know how this is done. Do I: --Create four regular 8.5 x 11 pages and select print options so pages 4 and 1 will print on one side of the 11 x 17 page, and sides 2 and 3 will print on the other side? --Create a template with an 11 x 17 page size with the four text flows already established? (Is it possible Adobe provides such a template? I looked, but did not find one in the Templates folder.) Any tips gratefully received. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mol...@clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Template for four-page brochure?
Hi Nancy, First thing, I would mock-up a dummy of the front and back layout of the piece. Determine things like margins, color,/bleeds, crop/trim, paper stock, tumble, etc. After that, call the printer. Talk specs with them and find out what they need to print. Do they prefer a PDF and how do they need it generated? What file format and resolution? Some printers will do the imposition; you provide a standard size and they will arrange for print. If you create the layout yourself, consider how the front and back will align (left, right and center). Frame can handle most print requirements but plan carefully for color challenges. The printer is your friend! Mollye -- Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mollye at clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Nancy Allison wrote: > In 20+ years of using FrameMaker, I've never had to do this before. > > I need to create a template for a four-page Quick Start Card that will > print on a piece of 11 x 17 paper that will be folded once to produce four > pages. > > I don't know how this is done. Do I: > > --Create four regular 8.5 x 11" pages and select print options so pages 4 > and 1 will print on one side of the 11 x 17" page, and sides 2 and 3 will > print on the other side? > > --Create a template with an 11 x 17" page size with the four text flows > already established? (Is it possible Adobe provides such a template? I > looked, but did not find one in the Templates folder.) > > Any tips gratefully received. > > --Nancy > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120806/7204ec47/attachment.html>
Re: Translation question
Hi Laura, If using translation memory, I would keep the languages separate since each memory is language specific. And, while French and English use the same character set, other languages require entirely different character sets and fonts to render those characters. You don't mention the outputs. If PDF, It is easy to combine books after rendering the PDF. Just my experience... Best, Mollye -- Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mol...@clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Laura Fergusson l.fergus...@codestuff.netwrote: Hi all ** ** I’m starting to work on revamping user guides from another division in our company. ** ** One of the guides is currently in Word(!), in French, and I’m about to move it to FrameMaker and translate it into English at the same time. ** ** I have a question: Is there a case for just having ONE book file for this guide, which contains files which have both French and English in them (hidden or displayed by conditional text)? I can’t decide if this is a good idea or not, or if I should instead have two completely separate books for the English and French guides. ** ** This will not be a one-off, btw, all guides for this division need both French and English versions. None of them seem horribly long or overly complicated. ** ** ** ** It may be that I should definitely maintain two separate versions – but I’m just not sure. ** ** Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. ** ** Laura ** ** ** ** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mol...@clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Translation question
Hi Laura, If using translation memory, I would keep the languages separate since each memory is language specific. And, while French and English use the same character set, other languages require entirely different character sets and fonts to render those characters. You don't mention the outputs. If PDF, It is easy to combine books after rendering the PDF. Just my experience... Best, Mollye -- Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mollye at clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Laura Fergusson wrote: > Hi all > > ** ** > > I?m starting to work on revamping user guides from another division in our > company. > > ** ** > > One of the guides is currently in Word(!), in French, and I?m about to > move it to FrameMaker and translate it into English at the same time. > > ** ** > > I have a question: Is there a case for just having ONE book file for this > guide, which contains files which have both French and English in them > (hidden or displayed by conditional text)? > > I can?t decide if this is a good idea or not, or if I should instead have > two completely separate books for the English and French guides. > > ** ** > > This will not be a one-off, btw, all guides for this division need both > French and English versions. > > None of them seem horribly long or overly complicated. ** ** > > ** ** > > It may be that I should definitely maintain two separate versions ? but > I?m just not sure. > > ** ** > > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. > > ** ** > > Laura > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120726/f7db2906/attachment.html>
Re: Translating English to Portuguese
Wim, sage advice on all fronts! I learned a long time ago to know what translators need to do their job and focus on creating and preparing content for that phase of the development; they are a part of my content development team. When working with Frame files, I deliver mif files with all the images and fonts. The translators massage these files to work with their translation tools. Talk with your translators and they'll tell you about their conversions, tools and processes. If I ask them to deliver a PDF of the final product, they save the files as as fm and do the DTP. (I recommend this approach; translation firms provide invaluable quality checks for every language. They catch even the small things the inexperienced eye might miss--characters, hyphens, wraps, keep-together and more.) If I deliver XML files, I must be sure to deliver everything the translator needs to work with those XML files. And while automated publishing is my preferred method, the first few cycles must be closely monitored. The smallest publishing wrinkle can cause unexpected errors! Doing my part of the work well is no small accomplishment. Building a team that works with translation well is a bonus. I work to my strength and enable others to work to theirs. Like writing, translation is not mechanical. It is all about the content! Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mol...@clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Scary responsibility in job ad
OK, can we agree that if we didn't want the responsibility we would not apply for the job? If we did want the responsibility, how would we meet the challenge? I worked with a group of 50 engineers and 8 automotive technicians. I was tasked with improving the content provided by engineers. This required establishing relationships and and processes. To be sure, some engineers were more willing than others. I created standards, provided examples and worked with people one-on-one. The automotive technicians all became technical writers with their own area of automotive speciality.Years later, they are all employed as technicians who write for auto manufacturers. Some engineers improved greatly, some not at all. My performance reviews always included a recognition of the improvements or how I would handle the challenge. I was responsible for tracking individual improvements and shared the progress with my supervisor. He developed a role for me as the documentation approver. I could reject poor content if I made solid recommendations for improvement. This position was one of the best I've ever had and I learned a ton. Did every engineer become a stellar technical writer? No. Did most improve their writing? Yes. Did the overall technical documentation improve? Based on usability scores and user feedback, absolutely. Call me Silly, but it would have been my loss if I had dismissed the position because I thought it was hopeless. We make our won choices. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mol...@clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote: What I object to is putting the burden and responsibility on the tech writer, rather than where it belongs...on the engineer. I've worked with very few engineers who wanted to improve their communication skills or who even cared. Richard, in your case, you were asked by people who were motivated to learn, and that's great; however, your experiences do not reflect mine. Most engineers I've worked with just want to do what they are told to do; they don't want to discuss it or describe it. IMHO, this requirement is setting the tech writer up for failure. Just because the company wants the engineers to communicate more effectively, it doesn't mean that the engineers want to, are motivated to, or would willingly cooperate with such coaching. Nadine -- *From:* Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com *To:* Writer generic...@yahoo.ca; framers framers@lists.frameusers.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2011 6:52:17 PM *Subject:* RE: Scary responsibility in job ad Writer wrote: A local company listed this as one of the responsibilities in a job ad for a technical writer: coach engineers to improve their writing skills It makes me laugh and cringe in equal measures. I'm really surprised at the overwhelmingly negative reaction to this ad. Coaching engineers is cited as just one of the responsibilities; without seeing what the others are, I have no opinion of the ad as a whole, but this specific responsibility certainly doesn't make me laugh, cringe, fear for my future, or get defensive about my profession. I'm asked (yes, often by engineers) language/grammar/writing questions fairly frequently, and in the past when things weren't so busy, I did the occasional short presentation on some language/writing issue at the end of a team meeting. These were well received, and I often got follow-up questions. The engineers I know are intelligent people who understand the value of communicating clearly. They want to improve their writing skills in order to communicate more effectively with each other, managers, and other departments (sales, support, etc.), as well as with me. IMHO, sharing what I know with people who see the value of learning it makes me more valuable. And it's rewarding for me, not cringe-inducing. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richard.co...@polycom.com 303-223-5111 -- rgco...@gmail.com 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mol...@clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail
Re: Scary responsibility in job ad
Milan, I have not written about this experience but I certainly will. I held the position for about five years and left the company more than 15 years ago. Given my background at the time, it seemed ordinary...like all tech writer were surely doing the same things. Let me add that I documented and learned to operate engine analyzers, brake testers, gas analyzers, emissions testing programs, torque testers, every kind of power tool, every kind of hand tool, battery starting and charging systems, dynamometers and many other speciality tools. I also learned to work with CAD systems and became a passable illustrator. We were all focused on making great products and my contribution was improving support materials. I respected the engineers and technicians for their knowledge and they most always demonstrated the same respect for my area of expertise. I had a super manager, was paid well and learned something new everyday. Degrees aside, I come from a working-class background and value the work of every individual. Mollye -- Mollye Barrett | ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mol...@clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett 2011/10/7 Milan Davidović milan.li...@gmail.com Have you written on this one in more detail anywhere (e.g. blog, newsletter)? Or do you know of a more extensive account on something similar by someone else? -- Milan Davidović http://twitter.com/altmilan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://ca.linkedin.com/in/milandavidovic On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Mollye Barrett mol...@clearpath.cc wrote: OK, can we agree that if we didn't want the responsibility we would not apply for the job? If we did want the responsibility, how would we meet the challenge? I worked with a group of 50 engineers and 8 automotive technicians. I was tasked with improving the content provided by engineers. This required establishing relationships and and processes. To be sure, some engineers were more willing than others. I created standards, provided examples and worked with people one-on-one. The automotive technicians all became technical writers with their own area of automotive speciality.Years later, they are all employed as technicians who write for auto manufacturers. Some engineers improved greatly, some not at all. My performance reviews always included a recognition of the improvements or how I would handle the challenge. I was responsible for tracking individual improvements and shared the progress with my supervisor. He developed a role for me as the documentation approver. I could reject poor content if I made solid recommendations for improvement. This position was one of the best I've ever had and I learned a ton. Did every engineer become a stellar technical writer? No. Did most improve their writing? Yes. Did the overall technical documentation improve? Based on usability scores and user feedback, absolutely. Call me Silly, but it would have been my loss if I had dismissed the position because I thought it was hopeless. We make our won choices. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 | mol...@clearpath.cc | www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett | http://www.twitter.com/mollye Skype: mollyebarrett On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote: What I object to is putting the burden and responsibility on the tech writer, rather than where it belongs...on the engineer. I've worked with very few engineers who wanted to improve their communication skills or who even cared. Richard, in your case, you were asked by people who were motivated to learn, and that's great; however, your experiences do not reflect mine. Most engineers I've worked with just want to do what they are told to do; they don't want to discuss it or describe it. IMHO, this requirement is setting the tech writer up for failure. Just because the company wants the engineers to communicate more effectively, it doesn't mean that the engineers want to, are motivated to, or would willingly cooperate with such coaching. Nadine From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com To: Writer generic...@yahoo.ca; framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 6:52:17 PM Subject: RE: Scary responsibility in job ad Writer wrote: A local company listed this as one of the responsibilities in a job ad for a technical writer: coach engineers to improve their writing skills It makes me laugh and cringe in equal measures. I'm really surprised at the overwhelmingly negative reaction to this ad. Coaching engineers is cited as just one of the responsibilities; without seeing what the others are, I have no opinion of the ad as a whole, but this specific responsibility certainly doesn't make me laugh, cringe, fear for my
Re: A Graphics Library...Why?
Hi Rick, I've used Extensis Portfolio for years. Also used the older version of ACSee and, while very good, it did not provide all the relational data needed. Several years ago, I worked with programmers at Ken Cook Company to develop a Graphics Tracker (http://www.kencook.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=88:graphics-trackercatid=25:the-project). The KCC product is especially useful for the equipment industry and a fine, hosted product. Right now, I'm developing an image gallery in a Confluence wiki. Some functionality is built-in but not enough! Best, Mollye On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Mollye, What program are you using to track your graphics? Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com Depends on functionality... I use a graphics tracker for file management with thumbnails for accurate identification and a format conversion generator for multiple formats. Powered by a database, each graphic has searchable metadata, automated file numbering and version control. This is especially important for layered graphics with standard base drawings. Also excellent for associating with assembly numbers and other where-used information. A graphics tracker is aabsolutely essential when working with equipment and engineering graphics. -- Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 (cell) www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett http://www.twitter.com/mollye On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote: Good evening fellow Framers and Frame Templars I've built a specification for a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) regarding building a Graphics Library (call it a database, tracker, whatever). One thing that gnaws at this old writer is the standard question: Why? I could use reasons such as: Traceability Locating Graphics Documentation Mapping It's just eluding me as to a rock-solid answer on this. Just reaching out to you all for some input or a resource I can tap. I have the procedure and policy and framework (no pun intended) in place but in doing this, I also know internal auditors will ask the pervasive question, Why? Have a safe and interesting evening. From Forest Hills, NY Eduardo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
A Graphics Library...Why?
Hi Rick, I've used Extensis Portfolio for years. Also used the older version of ACSee and, while very good, it did not provide all the relational data needed. Several years ago, I worked with programmers at Ken Cook Company to develop a Graphics Tracker (http://www.kencook.com/index.php?option=com_content=article=88:graphics-tracker=25:the-project). The KCC product is especially useful for the equipment industry and a fine, hosted product. Right now, I'm developing an image gallery in a Confluence wiki. Some functionality is built-in but not enough! Best, Mollye On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Mollye, > > What program are you using to track your graphics? Thanks. > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > rick at frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > Depends on functionality... I use a graphics tracker for file management > with thumbnails for accurate identification and a format conversion > generator for multiple formats. Powered by a database, each graphic has > searchable metadata, automated file numbering and version control. This is > especially important for layered graphics with standard base drawings. > Also excellent for associating with assembly numbers and other where-used > information. A graphics tracker is aabsolutely essential when working with > equipment and engineering graphics. > > -- > Mollye Barrett > ClearPath, LLC > 414-331-1378 (cell) > www.clearpath.cc > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett > http://www.twitter.com/mollye > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr. < > ecidade at zoominternet.net> wrote: > >> Good evening fellow Framers and Frame Templars >> >> I've built a specification for a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) >> regarding building a Graphics Library (call it a database, tracker, >> whatever). >> >> One thing that gnaws at this old writer is the standard question: ?Why? >> >> I could use reasons such as: >> Traceability >> Locating Graphics >> Documentation Mapping >> >> It's just eluding me as to a rock-solid answer on this. >> >> Just reaching out to you all for some input or a resource I can tap. ?I >> have >> the procedure and policy and framework (no pun intended) in place but in >> doing this, I also know internal auditors will ask the pervasive question, >> "Why?" >> >> Have a safe and interesting evening. >> >> From Forest Hills, NY >> >> Eduardo > > >
Re: A Graphics Library...Why?
Depends on functionality... I use a graphics tracker for file management with thumbnails for accurate identification and a format conversion generator for multiple formats. Powered by a database, each graphic has searchable metadata, automated file numbering and version control. This is especially important for layered graphics with standard base drawings. Also excellent for associating with assembly numbers and other where-used information. A graphics tracker is aabsolutely essential when working with equipment and engineering graphics. -- Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 (cell) www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett http://www.twitter.com/mollye On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr. ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote: Good evening fellow Framers and Frame Templars I've built a specification for a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) regarding building a Graphics Library (call it a database, tracker, whatever). One thing that gnaws at this old writer is the standard question: Why? I could use reasons such as: Traceability Locating Graphics Documentation Mapping It's just eluding me as to a rock-solid answer on this. Just reaching out to you all for some input or a resource I can tap. I have the procedure and policy and framework (no pun intended) in place but in doing this, I also know internal auditors will ask the pervasive question, Why? Have a safe and interesting evening. From Forest Hills, NY Eduardo I'm just another writer, still trapped within my truth; A hesitant prize fighter, still trapped within my youth. Dan Hill ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as mol...@clearpath.cc. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
A Graphics Library...Why?
Depends on functionality... I use a graphics tracker for file management with thumbnails for accurate identification and a format conversion generator for multiple formats. Powered by a database, each graphic has searchable metadata, automated file numbering and version control. This is especially important for layered graphics with standard base drawings. Also excellent for associating with assembly numbers and other where-used information. A graphics tracker is aabsolutely essential when working with equipment and engineering graphics. -- Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 (cell) www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett http://www.twitter.com/mollye On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr. < ecidade at zoominternet.net> wrote: > Good evening fellow Framers and Frame Templars > > I've built a specification for a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) > regarding building a Graphics Library (call it a database, tracker, > whatever). > > One thing that gnaws at this old writer is the standard question: Why? > > I could use reasons such as: > Traceability > Locating Graphics > Documentation Mapping > > It's just eluding me as to a rock-solid answer on this. > > Just reaching out to you all for some input or a resource I can tap. I > have > the procedure and policy and framework (no pun intended) in place but in > doing this, I also know internal auditors will ask the pervasive question, > "Why?" > > Have a safe and interesting evening. > > From Forest Hills, NY > > Eduardo > > > > "I'm just another writer, still trapped within my truth; > A hesitant prize fighter, still trapped within my youth." > Dan Hill > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
SVGs with Frame/DITA
Hi All, I'm working on a DITA/Frame project right now and am faced with a graphics challenge go figure. The client currently uses EPS illustrations with callouts and leader lines applied to the drawing in the Frame graphics box. Most are simple lettered callouts but there are also some illustrations with text that must be translated into 24 languages. So, sounds to me like a good application for SVGs. Can anyone speak to using SVGs with DITA and Frame? As always, your help is appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) http://www.clearpath.cc www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett http://www.twitter.com/mollye http://www.twitter.com/mollye speaking dates The RealWorld DITA Conference September 14-15 Raleigh, NC http://www.aboveandbeyondlearning.com/ditaconference.html http://www.aboveandbeyondlearning.com/ditaconference.html LavaCon October 25-27 New Orleans, Louisiana http://www.lavacon.org/ http://www.lavacon.org/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SVGs with Frame/DITA
Hi All, I'm working on a DITA/Frame project right now and am faced with a graphics challenge . The client currently uses EPS illustrations with callouts and leader lines applied to the drawing in the Frame graphics box. Most are simple lettered callouts but there are also some illustrations with text that must be translated into 24 languages. So, sounds to me like a good application for SVGs. Can anyone speak to using SVGs with DITA and Frame? As always, your help is appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) <http://www.clearpath.cc> www.clearpath.cc <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett <http://www.twitter.com/mollye> http://www.twitter.com/mollye speaking dates The RealWorld DITA Conference September 14-15 Raleigh, NC <http://www.aboveandbeyondlearning.com/ditaconference.html> http://www.aboveandbeyondlearning.com/ditaconference.html LavaCon October 25-27 New Orleans, Louisiana <http://www.lavacon.org/> http://www.lavacon.org/?
RE: Request Info on DocBook
I have used DocBook for many years. As a structure model, DocBook is robust and met all our needs for documenting heavy equipment in 24 languages. It is well developed and well supported. Given the development work is done up front, some people learn quickly while others struggle. On the development side, successful implementation requires a substantial understanding of XML. Then, there is the content modeling to determine the elements needed and the best use of attributes. Frame has it's own approach to handling DocBook, but it's quite workable. Everything is based on having a sound content strategy and development support. DocBook is not magic. Humans must configure the model for optimal results. I have avoided customizing DocBook as new releases provide fixes and useful enhancements. Some training is essential for writers to become efficient. Technology needs to provide real benefits for authors and not get in the way of their work. If your team is not willing to learn a new technology today, what would entice them to learn tomorrow? Keep me posted on your progress! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett http://www.twitter.com/mollye -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Garnier Garnier Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:05 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Request Info on DocBook Hello Listers, I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves a very deep learning curve. Is there any plug-in available to make things easier? I need to know this as some of the writers are not keen to learn XML and would rather click buttons that would take care of what they want to generate. The company will definitely not invest in training nor am I aware of any institute/entity in India that imparts training in DocBook. When I start exploring I will definitely join the DocBook user forum. Am writing to this list as I need some firsthand information about the tool. Any kind of related information is welcome. TIA B/R Garnier Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mol...@clearpath.cc. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Request Info on DocBook
I have used DocBook for many years. As a structure model, DocBook is robust and met all our needs for documenting heavy equipment in 24 languages. It is well developed and well supported. Given the development work is done up front, some people learn quickly while others struggle. On the development side, successful implementation requires a substantial understanding of XML. Then, there is the content modeling to determine the elements needed and the best use of attributes. Frame has it's own approach to handling DocBook, but it's quite workable. Everything is based on having a sound content strategy and development support. DocBook is not magic. Humans must configure the model for optimal results. I have avoided customizing DocBook as new releases provide fixes and useful enhancements. Some training is essential for writers to become efficient. Technology needs to provide real benefits for authors and not get in the way of their work. If your team is not willing to learn a new technology today, what would entice them to learn tomorrow? Keep me posted on your progress! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) www.clearpath.cc http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett http://www.twitter.com/mollye -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Garnier Garnier Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:05 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Request Info on DocBook Hello Listers, ? I am about to explore DocBook. I am sure some of the listers must be using it or have used it in the past. Could you please share your experience? Went through some of the details over the net and it seems a good tool to switch to but involves a very deep learning curve. Is there any plug-in available to make things easier? I need to know this as some of the writers are not keen to learn XML and would rather click buttons that would take care of what they want to generate. The company will definitely not invest in training nor am I aware of any institute/entity in India that imparts training in DocBook. ? When I start exploring I will definitely join the DocBook user forum. Am writing to this list as I need some firsthand information about the tool. ? Any kind of related information is welcome. ? TIA B/R Garnier ? Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TOC Trouble
Seems I've done something similar... I'd try renaming the generated file, adding a new generated TOC to the book and then import the format from the old file. You'll have to update the book file again after importing the format, but it would save hand-formatting. Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Donald W. Spencer Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:24 AM To: Framers (E-mail) Subject: TOC Trouble Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. But this file has now lost its "generated" status and is not recognized by Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file once again? I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to keep the first TOC working with the book? Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. ~ Don Spencer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: re-use 101
Joel, There are so many ways to meet your goals using FrameMaker... You asked for unstructured Frame and reuse so here's a take: When using unstructured Frame I've solved this problem using text insets and a simple spreadsheet for tracking where used information. I have a client that wanted to enhance their reuse strategy but were not ready to move their group to structure and XML. They had been using the copy/paste method for years and were unable to maintain books after release. So, I analyzed the usage across 3 product models and 15 books (content was: exactly the same, similar, different or not used). Based on the analysis, I created reusable topics (text insets) and imported them by reference into the specific section containers and then created serial number books. (Note, I handle graphics in the same way and often a text inset may reused with a model specific graphic. So, there's a bit of rewrite/reflow up front for optimal reuse.) Reuse analysis across 15 English books was very high: 70% for text (insets) and 55% for graphics. The books are large (10 sections, about 700 pages) and the client now happily builds at least 3 books (serial number specific) a week using this scheme. They also translate each complete book into at least one other language...sometimes two. So, tracking, managing and publishing those translations is a lot easier now too) The books are saved to PDF right now. The conversion table and EDD are complete so the next step is structure and then XML delivered to knowledge base on the web. Real trick to this is the analysis, a bullet-proof template (section/inset) with no overrides and maintaining the where used information. The rest is the simplest of FrameMaker features. Let me know if I've been clear enough with this! And when you're ready for a content management solution, I'll gladly make some recommendations:) Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:36 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: re-use 101 I am using Frame 8. I have a set of seven manuals that are close to 100 pages each. Many sections of these manuals are identical, some sections differ in detail in minor ways, and fewer sections differ in more substantial ways. Currently they are all Frame books with each chapter being its own file within the book. There is no re-use of anything at the moment. This is becoming increasingly burdensome to maintain, as a change to something that appears in all seven manuals requires me to make that change manually in all seven files. I would like to get to re-use, or single-sourcing, but I'm puzzled as to how to get there. Would the best strategy be: (a) To use conditional text and generate several versions; (b) To try and convert everything to XML and sew things together based on individual XML files; (c) Something else? I have zero XML knowledge, and whenever I read about it, my head hurts. I am willing to learn, but the benefit needs to be commensurate with the pain involved in learning. I'm looking for the simplest solution that allows for some common source material using my existing Frame configuration. Ideas are appreciated. Joel ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mol...@clearpath.cc. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
re-use 101
Joel, There are so many ways to meet your goals using FrameMaker... You asked for unstructured Frame and reuse so here's a take: When using unstructured Frame I've solved this problem using text insets and a simple spreadsheet for tracking "where used" information. I have a client that wanted to enhance their reuse strategy but were not ready to move their group to structure and XML. They had been using the copy/paste method for years and were unable to maintain books after release. So, I analyzed the usage across 3 product models and 15 books (content was: exactly the same, similar, different or not used). Based on the analysis, I created reusable topics (text insets) and imported them by reference into the specific section containers and then created serial number books. (Note, I handle graphics in the same way and often a text inset may reused with a model specific graphic. So, there's a bit of rewrite/reflow up front for optimal reuse.) Reuse analysis across 15 English books was very high: 70% for text (insets) and 55% for graphics. The books are large (10 sections, about 700 pages) and the client now happily builds at least 3 books (serial number specific) a week using this scheme. They also translate each complete book into at least one other language...sometimes two. So, tracking, managing and publishing those translations is a lot easier now too) The books are saved to PDF right now. The conversion table and EDD are complete so the next step is structure and then XML delivered to knowledge base on the web. Real trick to this is the analysis, a bullet-proof template (section/inset) with no overrides and maintaining the "where used" information. The rest is the simplest of FrameMaker features. Let me know if I've been clear enough with this! And when you're ready for a content management solution, I'll gladly make some recommendations:) Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:36 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: re-use 101 I am using Frame 8. I have a set of seven manuals that are close to 100 pages each. Many sections of these manuals are identical, some sections differ in detail in minor ways, and fewer sections differ in more substantial ways. Currently they are all Frame books with each chapter being its own file within the book. There is no re-use of anything at the moment. This is becoming increasingly burdensome to maintain, as a change to something that appears in all seven manuals requires me to make that change manually in all seven files. I would like to get to re-use, or single-sourcing, but I'm puzzled as to how to get there. Would the best strategy be: (a) To use conditional text and generate several versions; (b) To try and convert everything to XML and sew things together based on individual XML files; (c) Something else? I have zero XML knowledge, and whenever I read about it, my head hurts. I am willing to learn, but the benefit needs to be commensurate with the pain involved in learning. I'm looking for the simplest solution that allows for some common source material using my existing Frame configuration. Ideas are appreciated. Joel ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
system variable in Portuguese
Hi All, I've knocked around with this problem for an hour and can't recall how to resolve it... I use several system variables (month, shortmonth) in a Running H/F that need to automatically display with the translated value (February=Fevereiro). I tried setting the Language in the Paragraph Designer tags and that doesn't work. Changing the keyboard language doesn't seem to work either. Hints or outright answers are appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1] Communications Director Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org Links: -- [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: system variable in Portuguese
Got it. These are system variable. So, I needed to change the language of a character format I used in the foot. Now all is well and both month and shortmonth are pulled from the system by language! Thanks for the help... Quoting Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com: I think the strings in variables are always literal and not dynamic, unless they pick up some data from the operating system. Is your operating system is set to use the Portuguese language pack? If it is, or it has no affect, the easiest way to juggle them may be to create a template file for each target language, then import them into the working files as needed. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Mollye Barrett mol...@clearpath.cc wrote: Hi All, I've knocked around with this problem for an hour and can't recall how to resolve it... I use several system variables (month, shortmonth) in a Running H/F that need to automatically display with the translated value (February=Fevereiro). I tried setting the Language in the Paragraph Designer tags and that doesn't work. Changing the keyboard language doesn't seem to work either. Hints or outright answers are appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1[1]] Communications Director Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org Links: -- [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[2] ___ Links: -- [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1 [2] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
system variable in Portuguese
Hi All, I've knocked around with this problem for an hour and can't recall how to resolve it... I use several system variables (month, shortmonth) in a Running H/F?that need to automatically display with the "translated" value (February=Fevereiro). I tried setting the Language in the Paragraph Designer tags and that doesn't work. Changing the keyboard language doesn't seem to work either. Hints or outright answers are appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1] Communications Director Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org Links: -- [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett
system variable in Portuguese
Got it. These are system variable. So, I needed to change the language of a character format I used in the foot. Now all is well and both month and shortmonth are pulled from the system by language! Thanks for the help... Quoting Art Campbell : > I think the strings in variables are always literal and not dynamic, > unless they pick up some data from the operating system. > > Is your operating system is set to use the Portuguese language pack? > > If it is, or it has no affect, the easiest way to juggle them may be > to create a template file for each target language, then import them > into the working files as needed. > > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com > ? ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 > > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Mollye Barrett > wrote: >> >> >> ? ?Hi All, >> >> ? ?I've knocked around with this problem for an hour and can't recall >> how to resolve it... >> >> ? ?I use several system variables (month, shortmonth) in a Running >> H/F that need to automatically display with the "translated" value >> (February=Fevereiro). I tried setting the Language in the Paragraph >> Designer tags and that doesn't work. Changing the keyboard language >> doesn't seem to work either. >> >> ? ?Hints or outright answers are appreciated! >> >> ? ?Mollye Barrett >> ClearPath, LLC >> content management solutions >> www.clearpath.cc >> 414-331-1378 (cell) >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1[1]] >> >> Communications Director >> Content Management Professionals >> www.cmprofessionals.org >> >> Links: >> -- >> [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[2] >> >> ___ Links: -- [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1 [2] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett
automatically insert file name in attribute
I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it... I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of file names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for each of those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do this all by hand. Can anyone give me clue? Thanks, Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1] Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org Join the Pros! CM Pros Fall Summit: The Content Lifecycle December 2, 2008 Boston - The Westin Copley Place http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/[2] Links: -- [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett [2] http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
automatically insert file name in attribute
I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it... I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of file names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for each of those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do this all by hand. Can anyone make suggestions? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions http://www.clearpath.cc www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals http://www.cmprofessionals.org/ http://www.cmprofessionals.org www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
automatically insert file name in attribute
I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it... I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of file names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for each of those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do this all by hand. Can anyone give me clue? Thanks, Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett[1] Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org Join the Pros! CM Pros Fall Summit: The Content Lifecycle December 2, 2008 Boston - The Westin Copley Place <http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/[2] Links: -- [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett [2] http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/
automatically insert file name in attribute
I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it... I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of file names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for each of those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do this all by hand. Can anyone make suggestions? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions <http://www.clearpath.cc > www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals <http://www.cmprofessionals.org/> <http://www.cmprofessionals.org > www.cmprofessionals.org
conversion tables
Hi All, I have a large group of docs (100's of docs with 100's of pages) to convert from unstructured to structured Frame and need some examples for syntax in the table. I get about 50% of the way but need to start promoting and nesting. I must use a modification of XDocBook. Any samples/examples are appreciated! (Info with Frame is very limited.) Best, Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org Join the Pros! CM Pros Fall Summit: The Content Lifecycle December 2, 2008 Boston - The Westin Copley Place http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/[1] Links: -- [1] http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
conversion tables
Hi All, I have a large group of docs (100's of docs with 100's of pages) to convert from unstructured to structured Frame and need some examples for syntax in the table. I get about 50% of the way but need to start promoting and nesting. I must use a modification of XDocBook. Any samples/examples are appreciated! (Info with Frame is very limited.) Best, Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org Join the Pros! CM Pros Fall Summit: The Content Lifecycle December 2, 2008 Boston - The Westin Copley Place <http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/[1] Links: -- [1] http://summit.cmprofessionals.org/
Display date text insets changed in containter file
Hi All, My client has many unstructred Frame books (average page count 700 pages) with text insets and referenced graphics. They want to be able to do a couple of things that elude me... * Display change date on pages in a book where text insets have changed. * Generate a list of changes (not with track changes) so users viewing the final PDF will know what has changed in the newest version of the book. My sense is that this might be done with FrameScript but wonder if there is a plug-in or Frame function that I'm not aware of. All suggestions welcome and any help appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Display date text insets changed in containter file
Hi All, My client has many unstructred Frame books (average page count 700 pages)?with text insets and referenced graphics. They want to be able to do a couple of things that elude me... * Display change date on pages in a book where text insets have changed. * Generate a list of changes (not with track changes) so users viewing the final PDF will know what has changed in the newest version of the book. My sense is that this might be done with FrameScript but wonder if there is a plug-in or Frame function that I'm not aware of. All suggestions welcome and any help appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org
section/no section number TOC
Hi All, I'm working on a template and the user wants the option of NOT using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements. Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3) and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3) to generate without a section number? I'm sure there must be an way to accomplish my goals but the solution escapes me... As always, any help is appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: section/no section number TOC
Richard, I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination... Every book has multiple sections. The front matter and the TOC need to display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book to display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in the TOC without a section number. I don't want additional paragraph styles, just the ability to hide the section number. I, too, question the wisdom but this is a client request...not my idea. I'm trying conditional text right now but don't think it will work at the book level. Still scratching my head, Mollye Quoting Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mollye Barrett wrote: I'm working on a template and the user wants the option of NOT using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements. Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3) and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3) to generate without a section number? TOC entries are always generated from specific pgf tags, and all the TOC entries from a given pgf tag (like H-1) will look the same, as defined in the reference page TOC specification. So you need new heading pgf tags (e.g., H-1A, H-2A) -- not necessarily defined to look different or not have numbers (although I can't imagine why your user would want all headings numbered, but only some of the numbers to appear in the TOC), but just so you can define a different TOC spec for each of those pgfs. So on the TOC ref page, H-1TOC might look like this (\t is a tab): $paranum \t$paratext \t$pagenum But H-1ATOC might look like this: \t$paratext \t$pagenum Note that it doesn't matter whether H-1A has an autonumber or not -- in the TOC spec, you're telling FM not to display it even if it exists. All that said, I have to wonder about the wisdom of the whole idea... :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ** To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** with unsubscribe framers (no quotes) in the body. ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
section/no section number TOC
Hi All, I'm working on a template?and the user wants the option of NOT using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements. Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3) and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3) to generate without a section number? I'm sure there must be an way to accomplish my goals but the solution escapes me... As always, any help is appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org
section/no section number TOC
Richard,
I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination...
Every book has multiple sections.?The front matter and the TOC need
to display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book
to display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in
the TOC without a section number.?I don't want additional paragraph
styles, just the ability to "hide" the section number.
I, too, question the wisdom but this is a client request...not my
idea. I'm trying conditional text right now but don't think it will
work at the book level.
Still scratching my head,
Mollye
Quoting "Combs, Richard" :
> Mollye Barrett wrote:
>
>> ? ? I'm working on a template?and the user wants the option of NOT
>> using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created
>> master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements.
>> Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3)
>> and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with
>> chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3)
>> to generate without a section number?
>
> TOC entries are always generated from specific pgf tags, and all
> the? TOC entries from a given pgf tag (like H-1) will look the same,
> as? defined in the reference page TOC specification.
>
> So you need new heading pgf tags (e.g., H-1A, H-2A) -- not?
> necessarily defined to look different or not have numbers (although?
> I can't imagine why your user would want all headings numbered, but?
> only some of the numbers to appear in the TOC), but just so you can?
> define a different TOC spec for each of those pgfs.
>
> So on the TOC ref page, H-1TOC might look like this ("\t" is a tab):
>
> <$paranum> \t<$paratext> \t<$pagenum>
>
> But H-1ATOC might look like this:
>
> \t<$paratext> \t<$pagenum>
>
> Note that it doesn't matter whether H-1A has an autonumber or not
> --? in the TOC spec, you're telling FM not to display it even if it?
> exists.
>
> All that said, I have to wonder about the wisdom of the whole idea... :-}
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
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table heading on reference page
Hi All, I need to get a fairly complicated table heading on the reference page so that the heading automatically populates when the specific table is inserted on the body page. Can anyone refresh my foggy memory on this? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
table heading on reference page
Hi All, I need to get a fairly complicated table heading on the reference page so that the heading automatically populates when the specific table is inserted on the body page. Can anyone refresh my foggy memory on this? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org
TOC question
I have a about 300 files with the Title (chapter name and paragraph style) for each chapter on a master page. This works well for many reasons but I need to generate a TOC that contains the Title and can't pick it up from the mater page. Other that redesigning the master page so the Title appears on the Body page, is there a way to get the Title to generate in my TOC? It seems I've done this before with a marker but can't make it work now? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TOC question
I have a about 300 files with the Title (chapter name and paragraph style) for each chapter on a master page. This works well for many reasons but I need to generate a TOC that contains the Title and can't pick it up from the mater page. Other that redesigning the master page so the Title appears on the Body page, is there a way to get the Title to generate in my TOC? It seems I've done this before with a marker but can't make it work now? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org
different page sizes in book
Hi All, I'm sure this has been asked and answered but I'm on a short lead... I have a book that is 99% 8.5 x 11. However, there are also a few 17 x 11 (drawing foldouts) that go in to the book at the end of chapters. Right now, it appears that I have to choose one size when I render (PDF settings) and insert the 17 x 11 pages manually. My goal is to put all the files in one book and render the PDF to the two page sizes without manual intervention. Is this possible? If so, how? Any help, as always, is greatly appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: different page sizes in book
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll tweak the template and try Baruch's method. My sense, though, is that future users will freak when they see the page sizes! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
different page sizes in book
Hi All, I'm sure this has been asked and answered but I'm on a short lead... I have a book that is 99% 8.5 x 11. However, there are also a few 17 x 11 (drawing foldouts) that go in to the book at the end of chapters. Right now, it appears that I have to choose one size when I render (PDF settings) and insert the 17 x 11 pages manually. My goal is to put all the files in one book and render the PDF?to the?two page sizes without manual intervention. Is this possible? If so, how? Any help, as always, is greatly appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org
different page sizes in book
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll tweak the template and try Baruch's method. My sense, though, is that future users will freak when they see the page sizes! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell)
deleting reference pages
Hello Framers! I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11 incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove reference pages without opening and closing each file? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks,Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: deleting reference pages
Thanks Art...works like a charm. Just replaced the refence pages on the first 50 test files. I created a book of all the files and will finish the rest shortly! Smiling, MollyeQuoting Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You could use a utility plugin such as CleanImport to impose a new template (with the correct ref pages). And you can use it in a book, if you want to create a book or books to manage the files. And you could probably do it with a FrameScript too. Art On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Framers! I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11 incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove reference pages without opening and closing each file? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks,Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com[1] Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/[2] for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 Links: -- [1] http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] http://www.frameusers.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
deleting reference pages
Hello Framers! I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11 incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove reference pages without opening and closing each file? Any help will be appreciated! Thanks,Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org
deleting reference pages
Thanks Art...works like a charm. Just replaced the refence pages on the first 50 test files. I created a book of all the files and will finish the rest shortly! Smiling, MollyeQuoting Art Campbell : > You could use a utility plugin such as CleanImport to impose a new > template (with the correct ref pages). > And you can use it in a book, if you want to create a book or books to > manage the files. > > And you could probably do it with a FrameScript too. > > Art > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Mollye Barrett > wrote: >> >> >> ? ?Hello Framers! >> >> ? ?I have 1500+ unstructured Frame files and each contains 11 >> incorrect reference pages. Is there a way to expediently remove >> reference pages without opening and closing each file? >> >> ? ?Any help will be appreciated! >> >> ? ?Thanks,Mollye >> >> ? ?Mollye Barrett >> ClearPath, LLC >> content management solutions >> www.clearpath.cc >> 414-331-1378 (cell) >> >> Director, Marketing Communications >> Content Management Professionals >> www.cmprofessionals.org >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit? >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com[1] >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/[2] for more resources and info. >> > > > > -- > Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com > ? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? No disclaimers apply. > ? DoD 358 > Links: -- [1] http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell at gmail.com [2] http://www.frameusers.com/
Learning curve for FrameMaker
Though I don't know the release detail, Kay Whatley and Bernard Ashwanden (Bright Path Solutions) both have books coming out very soon. I believe they cover structured Frame in general and DITA specifics. I reviewed the gallies at the FrameMaker Chautauqua and they appear to be promising step-by-step books! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 > Of course, they should. But (tying this to another thread) if > FrameUsers.com ever came back, perhaps we could start a > list-members-only wiki. I mean, who better than us to start such a > thing? > > Mike McCallister > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene > Stephenson > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:30 PM > To: Mike Wickham; Lester C. Smalley; framers at frameusers.com; Steve > Rickaby > Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker > > Maybe the should outsource the manual to someone on this list. ;-) > > > Rene L. Stephenson > > > > > - Original Message > From: Mike Wickham > To: Lester C. Smalley ; framers at frameusers.com; > Steve Rickaby > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:00:10 PM > Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker > >> Lester omits to mention what will be known to many here - that the >> Frame >> 5 manual was the last to be >> produced by the tech authors at Frame Corp. I have a copy, and yes, it > >> is a lot better than the current offering (although I've not seen a >> FrameMaker 8 manual.) > > The FrameMaker 8 manual is worse, because there isn't on-- at least, no > hard copy is included or sold separately. Adobe does include a file on > the CD that you can print and bind yourself, but sheesh. It's over 1000 > pages and awkward to print and bind in an office. I'm thinking about > sending it off to a POD printer to get a printed/bound copy (split into > two volumes for convenience). > > Mike Wickham > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as Michael.McCallister at ge.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister% > 40ge.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
Fine tuning pagination
Linda, As you probably guessed by now, it's easier to add space than take it away without making a mess for the next revision. So I find it easier to go long, which may mean extra pages and more white space (the price of print). When tweaking styles, I always start with the larger text and work my way down to paras, notes and tables. Finally, I've used Quite Imposing for years (used to layout signatures with tumbled boxes on one big page-ugh!). Once the software is installed, the imposition takes (at most) a minute and you're done! Often, the printer will do the impositions. But having the program (around $300) means that I don't encounter possible platform/font issues when sending native files to the printer for imposition. It also lets me know, just about any time, where I am with the layout. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
tables
Hi All, I have several unstructured templates in about 150 files. There are lots of different table formats, though many of them are similar. What I need to do is to narrow the usage and remove the unused table formats. Is there a method in Frame 8 or a plugin that will help? Any help is appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
RE: delivering XML on the web
Hi Yves, Thanks! sounds cool and you've provided great details. The creation process sounds relatively easy. For sure, if I used DITA everything from this very large doc set would need rewriting... It's likely time to do a serious content cleaning so I'll do some projections on time and cost. Does each xhtml file truly stand-alone? When topics with prescribed relationships (rel table) change, do you have to recompile to maintain those relationships? Thanks again. You've provided perspective and that's what I need! Best! Mollye -Original Message- From: Yves Barbion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: delivering XML on the web Hi Mollye, I'm currently also working on a fun project: authoring structured content for a corporate website. I'm using the DITA information model and I'm writing DITA topics in FrameMaker with the DITA-FMx plug-in. This is how I do it: 1. We do a brainstorm and make a list of the topics which we want to have on the site. 2. We open this list in FrameMaker and save it as a regular, unstructured FrameMaker file. This list is resembles the traditional outline: the indents define the level of the topics and headings. 3. We use DITA-FMx to create a ditamap and stubs from this list. The stubs are topics which already have the correct title and some metadata. 4. Write standalone, information-typed topics, which means filling in the stubs. 5. We (re)arrange the topics in the ditamap, which will later become the sitemap. 6. In the ditamap, use a relationship table to add links to my topics (navigation). I use the DITA Open Toolkit to generate the following output: * xhtml. These are the files which I deliver to my web developer. * HTMLHelp, which I then convert to WebHelp. This gives me a pretty good idea of how my pages look in a web browser and how the navigation and linking works. Lessons learned? * Authoring, and (re)structuring web content has never been easier. Just take the ditamap and drag the topics around in the structure to the position where you want to have them. * The DITA-FMx plug-in is really the must-have tool if you want to author DITA content in FrameMaker. More information about DITA and DITA-FMx? * http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/ * http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=dita * http://dita.xml.org/ * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DITA Kind regards Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor Scripto bvba Asselsstraat 65 9031 Gent Belgium T: +32 494 12 01 89 F: +32 9 366 50 23 BTW (VAT) BE 0886.192.394 skype: yves.barbion Mollye Barrett wrote: Dear Framers, I'm working on a fun project (for an equipment manufacturer) using Frame to author structured files that may (for a time) be published to PDF as well as to XML. The XML files will be checked into a CMS and delivered to the web for dynamic publication based on metadata and/or search. Is anyone doing the same or something similar? I'm interested your production path details, information model, lessons learned and, very soon, navigation in the delivery environment. I look forward to and appreciate any replies. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
delivering XML on the web
Hi Yves, Thanks! sounds cool and you've provided great details. The creation process sounds relatively easy. For sure, if I used DITA everything from this very large doc set would need rewriting... It's likely time to do a serious content cleaning so I'll do some projections on time and cost. Does each xhtml file truly stand-alone? When topics with prescribed relationships (rel table) change, do you have to recompile to maintain those relationships? Thanks again. You've provided perspective and that's what I need! Best! Mollye -Original Message- From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:18 AM To: mollye at clearpath.cc Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: delivering XML on the web Hi Mollye, I'm currently also working on a fun project: authoring structured content for a corporate website. I'm using the DITA information model and I'm writing DITA topics in FrameMaker with the DITA-FMx plug-in. This is how I do it: 1. We do a brainstorm and make a list of the topics which we want to have on the site. 2. We open this list in FrameMaker and save it as a regular, unstructured FrameMaker file. This list is resembles the traditional outline: the indents define the level of the topics and headings. 3. We use DITA-FMx to create a ditamap and "stubs" from this list. The "stubs" are topics which already have the correct title and some metadata. 4. Write standalone, information-typed topics, which means filling in the stubs. 5. We (re)arrange the topics in the ditamap, which will later become the sitemap. 6. In the ditamap, use a "relationship table" to add links to my topics (navigation). I use the DITA Open Toolkit to generate the following output: * xhtml. These are the files which I deliver to my web developer. * HTMLHelp, which I then convert to WebHelp. This gives me a pretty good idea of how my "pages" look in a web browser and how the navigation and linking works. Lessons learned? * Authoring, and (re)structuring web content has never been easier. Just take the ditamap and drag the topics around in the structure to the position where you want to have them. * The DITA-FMx plug-in is really the must-have tool if you want to author DITA content in FrameMaker. More information about DITA and DITA-FMx? * http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/ * http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=dita * http://dita.xml.org/ * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DITA Kind regards Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor Scripto bvba Asselsstraat 65 9031 Gent Belgium T: +32 494 12 01 89 F: +32 9 366 50 23 BTW (VAT) BE 0886.192.394 skype: yves.barbion ________ Mollye Barrett wrote: Dear Framers, I'm working on a fun project (for an equipment manufacturer) using Frame to author structured files that may (for a time) be published to PDF as well as to XML. The XML files will be checked into a CMS and delivered to the web for dynamic publication based on metadata and/or search. Is anyone doing the same or something similar? I'm interested your production path details, information model, lessons learned and, very soon, navigation in the delivery environment. I look forward to and appreciate any replies. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barbion at gmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
delivering XML on the web
Dear Framers, I'm working on a fun project (for an equipment manufacturer) using Frame to author structured files that may (for a time) be published to PDF as well as to XML. The XML files will be checked into a CMS and delivered to the web for dynamic publication based on metadata and/or search. Is anyone doing the same or something similar? I'm interested your production path details, information model, lessons learned and, very soon, navigation in the delivery environment. I look forward to and appreciate any replies. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
delivering XML on the web
Dear Framers, I'm working on a fun project (for an equipment manufacturer) using Frame to author structured files that may (for a time) be published to PDF as well as to XML. The XML files will be checked into a CMS and delivered to the web for dynamic publication based on metadata and/or search. Is anyone doing the same or something similar? I'm interested your production path details, information model, lessons learned and, very soon, navigation in the delivery environment. I look forward to and appreciate any replies. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
control!
Hi All, I have many unstructured books and would like to do two things: 1- Contol the chapter name based on the chapter number Chapter 2 = Operation Chapter 3 = Lubrication Can I do this with a sort of map on the reference pages and control it at the book level or simply have the chapter name change based on numbering properties? 2- Control a book number in the footer on the book Thanks for all your help...past, present and future! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: control!
Art, No not quite, but that likely what I implied. What's needed is automation. I'm revamping these books so the styles change (too frequently) and importing format across many, many files can be messy. I'd like to control this so it's more automated and works from the book leve as much as possible. Mollye, What, exactly, do you mean by control? Do you mean set and prevent anyone from altering it, or On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have many unstructured books and would like to do two things: 1- Contol the chapter name based on the chapter number Chapter 2 = Operation Chapter 3 = Lubrication Can I do this with a sort of map on the reference pages and control it at the book level or simply have the chapter name change based on numbering properties? 2- Control a book number in the footer on the book Thanks for all your help...past, present and future! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: control!
Thanks Art, I'll give #2 a try tomorrow morning. Sounds like I have several scripting opportunities and will be pulling together all the pieces next week. Thanks again! Mollye Mollye, I think #2 is pretty easy -- I'd just create a BookNumber variable that lived in all of the book's component files. Pick one master file, insert the variable in the footer on the master page(s). Then set the contents of the variable in that master file, and Import Formats Variables and Page Layouts into all the component files. Number 1, though, I'd only try to play with if you're sure the chapter orders are not going to change. I think the only way you could do it automatically is with FrameScript... I'd keep that one looser, myself, and just have separate tags for ChapterNumber and ChapterTitle. Then type the actual chapter title in as text. And use $paratext variables or cross-references to propagate it. Art On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art, No not quite, but that likely what I implied. What's needed is automation. I'm revamping these books so the styles change (too frequently) and importing format across many, many files can be messy. I'd like to control this so it's more automated and works from the book leve as much as possible. Mollye, What, exactly, do you mean by control? Do you mean set and prevent anyone from altering it, or On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have many unstructured books and would like to do two things: 1- Contol the chapter name based on the chapter number Chapter 2 = Operation Chapter 3 = Lubrication Can I do this with a sort of map on the reference pages and control it at the book level or simply have the chapter name change based on numbering properties? 2- Control a book number in the footer on the book Thanks for all your help...past, present and future! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
control!
Hi All, I have many unstructured books and would like to do two things: 1- Contol the chapter name based on the chapter number Chapter 2 = Operation Chapter 3 = Lubrication Can I do this with a sort of map on the reference pages and control it at the book level or simply have the chapter name change based on numbering properties? 2- Control a book number in the footer on the book Thanks for all your help...past, present and future! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
control!
Art, No not quite, but that likely what I implied. What's needed is automation. I'm revamping these books so the styles change (too frequently) and importing format across many, many files can be messy. I'd like to control this so it's more automated and works from the book leve as much as possible. > Mollye, > What, exactly, do you mean by "control?" > Do you mean set and prevent anyone from altering it, or > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Mollye Barrett > wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have many unstructured books and would like to do two things: >> >> 1- Contol the chapter name based on the chapter number >> Chapter 2 = Operation >> Chapter 3 = Lubrication >> >> Can I do this with a sort of map on the reference pages and control it >> at >> the book level or simply have the chapter name change based on >> numbering >> properties? >> >> 2- Control a book number in the footer on the book >> >> Thanks for all your help...past, present and future! >> >> Mollye Barrett >> ClearPath, LLC >> 414-331-1378 >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > > > -- > Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
control!
Thanks Art, I'll give #2 a try tomorrow morning. Sounds like I have several scripting opportunities and will be pulling together all the pieces next week. Thanks again! Mollye > Mollye, > > I think #2 is pretty easy -- I'd just create a BookNumber variable > that lived in all of the book's component files. Pick one master file, > insert the variable in the footer on the master page(s). Then set the > contents of the variable in that master file, and Import > Formats > > Variables and Page Layouts into all the component files. > > Number 1, though, I'd only try to play with if you're sure the chapter > orders are not going to change. I think the only way you could do it > automatically is with FrameScript... > > I'd keep that one looser, myself, and just have separate tags for > ChapterNumber and ChapterTitle. > Then type the actual chapter title in as text. And use <$paratext> > variables or cross-references to propagate it. > > Art > > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Mollye Barrett > wrote: >> Art, >> No not quite, but that likely what I implied. What's needed is >> automation. >> I'm revamping these books so the styles change (too frequently) and >> importing format across many, many files can be messy. I'd like to >> control >> this so it's more automated and works from the book leve as much as >> possible. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Mollye, >> > What, exactly, do you mean by "control?" >> > Do you mean set and prevent anyone from altering it, or >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Mollye Barrett >> > wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I have many unstructured books and would like to do two things: >> >> >> >> 1- Contol the chapter name based on the chapter number >> >> Chapter 2 = Operation >> >> Chapter 3 = Lubrication >> >> >> >> Can I do this with a sort of map on the reference pages and control >> it >> >> at >> >> the book level or simply have the chapter name change based on >> >> numbering >> >> properties? >> >> >> >> 2- Control a book number in the footer on the book >> >> >> >> Thanks for all your help...past, present and future! >> >> >> >> Mollye Barrett >> >> ClearPath, LLC >> >> 414-331-1378 >> >> ___ >> >> >> >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. >> >> >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> >> or visit >> >> >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com >> > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 >> Vincent >> > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson >> > No disclaimers apply. >> > DoD 358 >> > >> >> >> Mollye Barrett >> ClearPath, LLC >> 414-331-1378 >> > > > > -- > Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
cross references in text insets
I'm going quietly mad this morning with a cross reference problem. There are internal cross references to figure numbers (Figure 5-2) paranum in a text insets and they shows up fine in the insets. When I import the insets into the container doc and update, the cross references disappear. The formats and variables are the same (re-imported to make sure) in the inset and container doc. It's probaby something simple but I can't see it... Can anyone help? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: cross references in text insets
Paul, My results are different/vary (ugh)... - When I double-click and select Update, the x-refs completely disappear. - When I double-click, go to Settings and select Retain Source's Formatting, the x-refs reappear. - Then, when I double-click, select Update, the x-refs persist. I need a bullet-proof way to update the insets globally with formatting from the container doc. Thanks for the thoughts though! Mollye Molleye If I update the inset, by double-clicking and choosing update now, I get the result you describe. If I Edit menu, update references and update all cross-refs and text insets (marked for automatic update), I get to see the cross-reference correctly. HTH --Paul Wilbraham Aztex +44 (0) 161 8618674 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
cross references in text insets
I'm going quietly mad this morning with a cross reference problem. There are internal cross references to figure numbers (Figure 5-2) in a text insets and they shows up fine in the insets. When I import the insets into the container doc and update, the cross references disappear. The formats and variables are the same (re-imported to make sure) in the inset and container doc. It's probaby something simple but I can't see it... Can anyone help? Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
cross references in text insets
Paul, My results are different/vary (ugh)... - When I double-click and select Update, the x-refs completely disappear. - When I double-click, go to Settings and select Retain Source's Formatting, the x-refs reappear. - Then, when I double-click, select Update, the x-refs persist. I need a bullet-proof way to update the insets globally with formatting from the container doc. Thanks for the thoughts though! Mollye > Molleye > > If I update the inset, by double-clicking and choosing update now, I get > the > result you describe. > If I Edit menu, update references and update all cross-refs and text > insets > (marked for automatic update), I get to see the cross-reference correctly. > > HTH > > --Paul Wilbraham > Aztex > +44 (0) 161 8618674 >
ANNOUNCEMENT: DITA and FrameMaker Training - Milwaukee
The Wisconsin STC Chapter is hosting the following training events featuring Bernard Aschwanden. Registration is open and we welcome out-of-towners! Details and registration are available at http://www.stc-wi.org. Workshop: Hands-on Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) Training Workshop Date: March 6, 2008 Time: 8:30AM, Registration - 9:00AM, Training Cost: $75 member, $125 nonmember (Members attending both full day workshops pay $150 for both) Location: Compuware, 700 W. Virginia St., Suite 500, Milwaukee, WI 53204 Meeting: XML and Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) in Action Date: March 6, 2008 Time: 5:30PM Networking, 6:00PM Dinner, 7:00PM Presentation Cost: $15 member, $20 nonmember, $10 student, $5 no meal Location: MSOE Alumni Partnership Center, 1120 North Broadway, Milwaukee, WI 53202 Workshop: FrameMaker Element Definition Document (EDD) Training Date: March 7, 2008 Time: 8:30AM Registration, 9:00AM Training Cost: $75 member, $125 nonmember (Members attending both full day workshops pay $150 for both) Location: Compuware, 700 W. Virginia St., Suite 500, Milwaukee, WI 53204 Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANNOUNCEMENT: DITA and FrameMaker Training - Milwaukee
The Wisconsin STC Chapter is hosting the following training events featuring Bernard Aschwanden. Registration is open and we welcome out-of-towners! Details and registration are available at http://www.stc-wi.org. Workshop: Hands-on Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) Training Workshop Date: March 6, 2008 Time: 8:30AM, Registration - 9:00AM, Training Cost: $75 member, $125 nonmember (Members attending both full day workshops pay $150 for both) Location: Compuware, 700 W. Virginia St., Suite 500, Milwaukee, WI 53204 Meeting: XML and Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) in Action Date: March 6, 2008 Time: 5:30PM Networking, 6:00PM Dinner, 7:00PM Presentation Cost: $15 member, $20 nonmember, $10 student, $5 no meal Location: MSOE Alumni Partnership Center, 1120 North Broadway, Milwaukee, WI 53202 Workshop: FrameMaker Element Definition Document (EDD) Training Date: March 7, 2008 Time: 8:30AM Registration, 9:00AM Training Cost: $75 member, $125 nonmember (Members attending both full day workshops pay $150 for both) Location: Compuware, 700 W. Virginia St., Suite 500, Milwaukee, WI 53204 Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell)
Using PNG graphics
Hi All, I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file and close-together lines each want to close. Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel format. Best, Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Using PNG graphics
Art, When printed directly from Frame or a pdf. I compared them the printed png file and the PageMaker pages where they are currently used. Mollye Mollye, Where are the lines looking bad? On screen, in the pdf, printed? Art On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Using PNG graphics
Hi All, I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file and close-together lines each want to close. Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel format. Best, Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
Using PNG graphics
Art, When printed directly from Frame or a pdf. I compared them the printed png file and the PageMaker pages where they are currently used. Mollye > Mollye, > Where are the lines looking bad? On screen, in the pdf, printed? > > Art > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mollye Barrett > wrote: Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
RE: style following inset
Thanks to all for sharing your solutions. The general consensus is that containing the spacing in the inset not only works but is expedient. I will implement and include with new user training. Again, thanks for all you kind responses. Mollye Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
style following inset
Thanks to all for sharing your solutions. The general consensus is that containing the spacing in the inset not only works but is expedient. I will implement and include with new user training. Again, thanks for all you kind responses. Mollye Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell)
style following inset
I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next empty paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too. I know this will go away when and if the documents are structured but that is not an option right now. Can anyone recommend best practices for handling unstructured insets and/or specifically how to resolve this unwelcome problem. I seem to recall a fix but I haven't been faced with this problem for a long time. Any help is truly appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: style following inset
Thanks all. You've jogged my memory with details and I'll give the fixes a try on this doc set. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: style following inset
I'm using FM 8. I'll try the override tool and see what happens. Thanks, Mollye We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the book for our output formats. Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message From: Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:03:32 AM Subject: style following inset I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next empty paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too. I know this will go away when and if the documents are structured but that is not an option right now. Can anyone recommend best practices for handling unstructured insets and/or specifically how to resolve this unwelcome problem. I seem to recall a fix but I haven't been faced with this problem for a long time. Any help is truly appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
style following inset
I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next empty paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too. I know this will go away when and if the documents are structured but that is not an option right now. Can anyone recommend best practices for handling unstructured insets and/or specifically how to resolve this unwelcome problem. I seem to recall a fix but I haven't been faced with this problem for a long time. Any help is truly appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
style following inset
Thanks all. You've jogged my memory with details and I'll give the fixes a try on this doc set. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
style following inset
I'm using FM 8. I'll try the override tool and see what happens. Thanks, Mollye > We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 > unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph > Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the book > for our output formats. > > Rene L. Stephenson > > > > > > > ----- Original Message > From: Mollye Barrett > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:03:32 AM > Subject: style following inset > > I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When > insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag > following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in > the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next > empty paragraph tag in the document becomes a number list too. > > I know this will go away when and if the documents are structured but that > is not an option right now. Can anyone recommend best practices for > handling unstructured insets and/or specifically how to resolve this > unwelcome problem. I seem to recall a fix but I haven't been faced with > this problem for a long time. > > Any help is truly appreciated! > > > Mollye Barrett > ClearPath, LLC > 414-331-1378 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
cleanup
In the past I used template mapper but can't seem to find it now. Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 > I have about a dozen books of various ages, authors, formatting, etc. > The tag catalogs are different from file-to-file, and from book-to-book. > I am in the process of fixing this. > > > > I want to make all Paragraph catalogs the same within all files. I know > the long ways to do this. Is there a bulk method? > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
repository
Hi All, I'm looking for your advice on the building a repository of Frame insets, docs, books and referenced graphics. Right now the content is unstructured but that will change in 6 weeks. For the sake of usability, I've used something like this in the past: Root - TechPubs -- graphics -- insets -- books It's been a while since I've done this and need your feedback on the simplest structure and what works for you. My client is also talking about when the repository has to be moved (ugh) I'm thinking if the new location traverses the root, we'd have to map the drives to reflect the current structure. Of course, this is happening at breakneck speed with input about what people would like minus experience. Your feedback is appreciated! Best, Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
repository
Hi All, I'm looking for your advice on the building a repository of Frame insets, docs, books and referenced graphics. Right now the content is unstructured but that will change in 6 weeks. For the sake of usability, I've used something like this in the past: Root - TechPubs -- graphics -- insets -- books It's been a while since I've done this and need your feedback on the simplest structure and what works for you. My client is also talking about "when" the repository has to be moved (ugh) I'm thinking if the new location traverses the root, we'd have to map the drives to reflect the current structure. Of course, this is happening at breakneck speed with input about what people would like minus experience. Your feedback is appreciated! Best, Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
SVG in 7.2
Hi Framers, We have a set XML files that started life as a Structured Frame documents with EPS graphics. Now, after converting to XML with SVG's, we need to round-trip the content back to Frame. It appears that the SVGs are rasterized when imported, some graphics scale unpredictably and there is some stray text (perhaps from an EPS layer). Has anyone else experienced the same issues and, if so, what was the resolution? Any help or direction is appreciated! Best, Mollye _ Mollye Barrett | Director, Content Management E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: (414) 847-1271 | Fax: (414) 466-0840 Ken Cook Co. | 9929 West Silver Spring Drive | Milwaukee, WI 53225 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SVG in 7.2
Hi Framers, We have a set XML files that started life as a Structured Frame documents with EPS graphics. Now, after converting to XML with SVG's, we need to round-trip the content back to Frame. It appears that the SVGs are rasterized when imported, some graphics scale unpredictably and there is some stray text (perhaps from an EPS layer). Has anyone else experienced the same issues and, if so, what was the resolution? Any help or direction is appreciated! Best, Mollye _ Mollye Barrett | Director, Content Management E-mail: mollyeb at kencook.com | Phone: (414) 847-1271 | Fax: (414) 466-0840 Ken Cook Co. | 9929 West Silver Spring Drive | Milwaukee, WI 53225
Structured Frame contractor/trainer in Japan
One of our Japanese clients needs a Structured Frame contractorsite in Japan. Is there anyone on Thanks, Mollye Director, Content Management Ken Cook Company 9929 West SilverMilwaukee , WI 53225 414-847-1271 (V) 414-331-1378
Structured Frame contractor/trainer in Japan
One of our Japanese clients needs a Structured Frame contractor = to work on site in Japan. Is there anyone on = the list? Let me = know! Thanks, Mollye = Barrett Director, Content Management Ken Cook Company 9929 West Silver = Spring Dr. Milwaukee , WI 53225 414-847-1271 (V) 414-331-1378 = (C) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Bleed tabs: structured Frame
I need to set-up bleed tabs that stagger by chapter. Anyone have a true and certain method that works? Any help would be appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378
Bleed tabs: structured Frame
I need to set-up bleed tabs that stagger by chapter. Anyone have a true and certain method that works? Any help would be appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Tri-XML in July
I'll be there and presenting! I've attend for several years and find it to be an excellent conference. Mollye Barrett Ken Cook Co. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+mollye=clearpath...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+mollye=clearpath.cc at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Posada Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:12 PM To: List, Framers Subject: Tri-XML in July Hi, guys...just wondering who else on the list is heading down to this conference the end of July? John Posada Senior Technical Writer "So long and thanks for all the fish." ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing a very large DocBook XML file kills FM 7.2
Great point Lynne, How do you recommend tweaking the DTD to avoid looking the xrefs. We're round-tripping and this is our biggest hurtle. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne A. Price Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:16 AM To: John Pitt; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Importing a very large DocBook XML file kills FM 7.2 At 12:48 AM 2/6/2006, John Pitt wrote: Q3 Is there anything I can do? We would prefer not to cut up the xml file as we want all chapters to talk to each other without spending long periods resolving broken xrefs. John, Forgot to add that FM does support importing XML documents with xrefs to other documents. Again, you'd have to tweak the DTD, but you wouldn't have to deal with unresolved xrefs. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Importing a very large DocBook XML file kills FM 7.2
Great point Lynne, How do you recommend tweaking the DTD to avoid looking the xrefs. We're round-tripping and this is our biggest hurtle. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+mollye=clearpath...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+mollye=clearpath.cc at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lynne A. Price Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:16 AM To: John Pitt; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Importing a very large DocBook XML file kills FM 7.2 At 12:48 AM 2/6/2006, John Pitt wrote: >Q3 Is there anything I can do? We would prefer not to cut up the xml >file >as we want all chapters to talk to each other without spending long >periods resolving broken xrefs. John, Forgot to add that FM does support importing XML documents with xrefs to other documents. Again, you'd have to tweak the DTD, but you wouldn't have to deal with unresolved xrefs. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
