RE: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-09 Thread Lea Galanter
Thanks for all the suggestions. It seems that I got the most responses
about Solid Converter. I really liked Solid Converter, although it
didn't bring over the bullets in bulleted lists. Otherwise, it was heads
and tails over converting PDFs using Adobe products.

I also checked out MIF2go (way too expensive at $295--my company would
never pay for it). 

I looked up Scansoft PDF Converter 6, but I didn't see an offer of a
trial version to test out (perhaps I missed it).

Then I tried ABBYY PDF Transformer 3.0 and was blown away. It brought
everything in the PDF over beautifully. And the basic product is only
$49.99 (digitally, $59.99 in a box). I'm sold. Now I just have to sell
my manager.

Thanks to Elizabeth Labine, who suggested ABBYY! Here's a link to the
Web site for this product: http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/PDFT.htm. 

Lea Galanter
Lead Technical Editor and Writer
Attenex, an F T I company 
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Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-09 Thread Lea Galanter
Thanks for all the suggestions. It seems that I got the most responses
about Solid Converter. I really liked Solid Converter, although it
didn't bring over the bullets in bulleted lists. Otherwise, it was heads
and tails over converting PDFs using Adobe products.

I also checked out MIF2go (way too expensive at $295--my company would
never pay for it). 

I looked up Scansoft PDF Converter 6, but I didn't see an offer of a
trial version to test out (perhaps I missed it).

Then I tried ABBYY PDF Transformer 3.0 and was blown away. It brought
everything in the PDF over beautifully. And the basic product is only
$49.99 (digitally, $59.99 in a box). I'm sold. Now I just have to sell
my manager.

Thanks to Elizabeth Labine, who suggested ABBYY! Here's a link to the
Web site for this product: http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/PDFT.htm. 

Lea Galanter
Lead Technical Editor and Writer
Attenex, an F T I company 
lgalanter at attenex.com
www.attenex.com
Phone: 206-689-4438 



RE: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Lea,

You do not need to convert to Word via PDF. Either export
directly from FrameMaker (is supposed to be improved in the
last versions) or use Mif2Go ($ 295, http://www.omsys.com).

Best regards

Winfried

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Lea Galanter
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:30 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Converting PDF to Word
 
 Hi Framers,
 
 I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to 
 Word docs. My
 department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other 
 departments
 want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
 Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF 
 as a Word
 doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
 useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
 system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)
 
 I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
 of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
 one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).
 
 Thanks!
 
 Lea Galanter
 Lead Technical Editor and Writer
 Attenex, an F T I company 
 lgalan...@attenex.com
 www.attenex.com
 Phone: 206-689-4438
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Re: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Art Campbell
MIF2go is the best of the several methods.
Cheap for all it does (Word conversion is just one of the many uses).
And there's a free eval available from omsys.com so you can try it
out.

Art

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfriedwr...@tycoint.com wrote:
 Hi Lea,

 You do not need to convert to Word via PDF. Either export
 directly from FrameMaker (is supposed to be improved in the
 last versions) or use Mif2Go ($ 295, http://www.omsys.com).

 Best regards

 Winfried

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 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
 Lea Galanter
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:30 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Converting PDF to Word

 Hi Framers,

 I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to
 Word docs. My
 department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other
 departments
 want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
 Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF
 as a Word
 doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
 useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
 system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)

 I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
 of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
 one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).

 Thanks!

 Lea Galanter
 Lead Technical Editor and Writer
 Attenex, an F T I company
 lgalan...@attenex.com
 www.attenex.com
 Phone: 206-689-4438
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RE: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Fred Ridder

As wilth any file format conversion process, you will always get the best 
results if you convert from the original source files rather than from some 
intermediate format. This is particularly true in the case of PDF, because PDF 
is a *lossy* file format. It is designed to produce the electronic equivalent 
of printed pages, and it does not retain much of the structural and 
organizational content that makes the source file editable rather than a simple 
page image. Tables and figures present an even greater challenge than text does 
because the conversion tool must infer a tremendous amount of structural 
information from a pattern of lines.

 

Having said all this, you'll get the best results by converting to RTF directly 
from the FrameMaker files. Frame's own Save As filter is OK, although under 
some circumstances (e.g. a large number of graphics) it may be so slow that 
you'll think the computer has crashed; overnight conversions are not unheard 
of. The best results usually come from the use of Mif2Go, which does an 
excellent job of creating a Word version that very closely resembles the 
FrameMaker original.

-Fred Ridder


 Subject: Converting PDF to Word
 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:29:39 -0700
 From: lgalan...@attenex.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Hi Framers,
 
 I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
 department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
 want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
 Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
 doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
 useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
 system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)
 
 I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
 of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
 one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).
 
 Thanks!
 
 Lea Galanter
 Lead Technical Editor and Writer
 Attenex, an F T I company 
 lgalan...@attenex.com
 www.attenex.com
 Phone: 206-689-4438 

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Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Ankur Srivastava
Hi Lea,

We have been using "Solid PDF tools" converter with great success and this
costs 5 cents less than 100 dollars:-)

regards
Ankur

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Lea Galanter  wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
> department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
> want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
> Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
> doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
> useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
> system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)
>
> I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
> of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
> one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lea Galanter
> Lead Technical Editor and Writer
> Attenex, an F T I company
> lgalanter at attenex.com
> www.attenex.com
> Phone: 206-689-4438
>
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Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Helen Borrie
At 01:53 PM 7/07/2009, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF->Word conversions ... works reasonably
>well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.

NitroPDF Professional does a perfect conversion - at least to {blush} Word 7, 
which is the youngest version of Word I have or ever will have.  I guess this 
answer is a bit off-topic in the Framemaker users' list. ;-) 

HB



Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Lea,

You do not need to convert to Word via PDF. Either export
directly from FrameMaker (is supposed to be improved in the
last versions) or use Mif2Go ($ 295, http://www.omsys.com).

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lea Galanter
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:30 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Converting PDF to Word
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to 
> Word docs. My
> department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other 
> departments
> want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
> Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF 
> as a Word
> doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
> useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
> system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)
> 
> I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
> of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
> one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Lea Galanter
> Lead Technical Editor and Writer
> Attenex, an F T I company 
> lgalanter at attenex.com
> www.attenex.com
> Phone: 206-689-4438


Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Art Campbell
MIF2go is the best of the several methods.
Cheap for all it does (Word conversion is just one of the many uses).
And there's a free eval available from omsys.com so you can try it
out.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:
> Hi Lea,
>
> You do not need to convert to Word via PDF. Either export
> directly from FrameMaker (is supposed to be improved in the
> last versions) or use Mif2Go ($ 295, http://www.omsys.com).
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
>> Lea Galanter
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:30 PM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Converting PDF to Word
>>
>> Hi Framers,
>>
>> I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to
>> Word docs. My
>> department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other
>> departments
>> want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
>> Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF
>> as a Word
>> doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
>> useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
>> system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)
>>
>> I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
>> of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
>> one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Lea Galanter
>> Lead Technical Editor and Writer
>> Attenex, an F T I company
>> lgalanter at attenex.com
>> www.attenex.com
>> Phone: 206-689-4438
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Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-07 Thread Fred Ridder

As wilth any file format conversion process, you will always get the best 
results if you convert from the original source files rather than from some 
intermediate format. This is particularly true in the case of PDF, because PDF 
is a *lossy* file format. It is designed to produce the electronic equivalent 
of printed pages, and it does not retain much of the structural and 
organizational content that makes the source file editable rather than a simple 
page image. Tables and figures present an even greater challenge than text does 
because the conversion tool must infer a tremendous amount of structural 
information from a pattern of lines.



Having said all this, you'll get the best results by converting to RTF directly 
from the FrameMaker files. Frame's own Save As filter is OK, although under 
some circumstances (e.g. a large number of graphics) it may be so slow that 
you'll think the computer has crashed; overnight conversions are not unheard 
of. The best results usually come from the use of Mif2Go, which does an 
excellent job of creating a Word version that very closely resembles the 
FrameMaker original.

-Fred Ridder


> Subject: Converting PDF to Word
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:29:39 -0700
> From: lgalanter at attenex.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
> department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
> want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
> Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
> doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
> useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
> system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)
> 
> I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
> of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
> one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Lea Galanter
> Lead Technical Editor and Writer
> Attenex, an F T I company 
> lgalanter at attenex.com
> www.attenex.com
> Phone: 206-689-4438 



Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-06 Thread Lea Galanter
Hi Framers,

I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)

I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).

Thanks!

Lea Galanter
Lead Technical Editor and Writer
Attenex, an F T I company 
lgalan...@attenex.com
www.attenex.com
Phone: 206-689-4438 

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RE: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-06 Thread Syed.Hosain
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF-Word conversions ... works reasonably
well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.

Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from FrameMaker
directly.

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Galanter
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:30 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Converting PDF to Word

Hi Framers,

I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)

I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).

Thanks!

Lea Galanter
Lead Technical Editor and Writer
Attenex, an F T I company 
lgalan...@attenex.com
www.attenex.com
Phone: 206-689-4438 

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RE: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-06 Thread Syed.Hosain
 Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from
FrameMaker directly.

Argh ... wrote should be write.

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Re: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-06 Thread Ankur Srivastava
Hi Lea,

We have been using Solid PDF tools converter with great success and this
costs 5 cents less than 100 dollars:-)

regards
Ankur

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Lea Galanter lgalan...@attenex.com wrote:

 Hi Framers,

 I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
 department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
 want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
 Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
 doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
 useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
 system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)

 I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
 of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
 one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).

 Thanks!

 Lea Galanter
 Lead Technical Editor and Writer
 Attenex, an F T I company
 lgalan...@attenex.com
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RE: Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-06 Thread Helen Borrie
At 01:53 PM 7/07/2009, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF-Word conversions ... works reasonably
well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.

NitroPDF Professional does a perfect conversion - at least to {blush} Word 7, 
which is the youngest version of Word I have or ever will have.  I guess this 
answer is a bit off-topic in the Framemaker users' list. ;-) 

HB

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Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-06 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF->Word conversions ... works reasonably
well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.

Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from FrameMaker
directly.

Z

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Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Converting PDF to Word

Hi Framers,

I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)

I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).

Thanks!

Lea Galanter
Lead Technical Editor and Writer
Attenex, an F T I company 
lgalanter at attenex.com
www.attenex.com
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Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-06 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from
FrameMaker directly.

Argh ... "wrote" should be "write".

Z


Converting PDF to Word

2009-07-01 Thread Lea Galanter
Hi Framers,

I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My
department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments
want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a
Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word
doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks --
useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management
system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.)

I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version
of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using
one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive).

Thanks!

Lea Galanter
Lead Technical Editor and Writer
Attenex, an F T I company 
lgalanter at attenex.com
www.attenex.com
Phone: 206-689-4438