Re: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Fred Wersan]

The lock/unlock approach to enabling PDF links in text insets is one way 
to go. But I note in your email that you are using Structured Frame. 
This means that you could use a free utility from West Street Consulting 
called InsetsPlus. With InsetsPlus, this problem goes away. I recommend 
it and all the other utilities for structured frame that they provide.


Fred

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Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Fred Wersan]

The lock/unlock approach to enabling PDF links in text insets is one way 
to go. But I note in your email that you are using Structured Frame. 
This means that you could use a free utility from West Street Consulting 
called InsetsPlus. With InsetsPlus, this problem goes away. I recommend 
it and all the other utilities for structured frame that they provide.

Fred

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RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to unlock the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Graham, Jasmine S
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,

 

Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 

 

I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

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RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Graham, Jasmine S]

Thanks to all who responded. My apologies for missing the previous thread in 
April with related information about this issue.

Thanks to Richard Combs for the manual workaround and to Rick for info about 
FrameScript options. I will consider these further if it turns out that the 
cross-references become absolutely necessary (at this time, they are nice to 
have but not show-stoppers). 

Happy Thursday! :-)

Jasmine Graham
Technical Writer, Research and Development 
Wireline Services
Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 
Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 
jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:21 AM
To: Graham, Jasmine S; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to unlock the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Graham, Jasmine S
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,

 

Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 

 

I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com

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RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Linda G. Gallagher]

I've used this script from for a couple of years now on several different
projects. It works great. 

Just an unsolicited testimonial from a satisfied customer.

~
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TechCom Plus, LLC
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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:21 AM
To: 'Graham, Jasmine S'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to unlock the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Graham, Jasmine S
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,

 

Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 

 

I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com

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RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

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Ditto!

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Gallagher
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:04 AM
To: 'Rick Quatro'; 'Graham, Jasmine S'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF


I've used this script from for a couple of years now on several different
projects. It works great. 

Just an unsolicited testimonial from a satisfied customer.

~
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TechCom Plus, LLC
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:21 AM
To: 'Graham, Jasmine S'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to unlock the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Graham, Jasmine S
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,

 

Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 

 

I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com

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Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to "unlock" the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Graham, Jasmine S
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ?
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

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Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Graham, Jasmine S]

Thanks to all who responded. My apologies for missing the previous thread in 
April with related information about this issue.

Thanks to Richard Combs for the manual workaround and to Rick for info about 
FrameScript options. I will consider these further if it turns out that the 
cross-references become absolutely necessary (at this time, they are nice to 
have but not show-stoppers). 

Happy Thursday! :-)

Jasmine Graham
Technical Writer, Research and Development 
Wireline Services
Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 
Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 
jasmine.graham at weatherford.com ? www.weatherford.com

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:21 AM
To: Graham, Jasmine S; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to "unlock" the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ?
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.graham at weatherford.com ? www.weatherford.com

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Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Linda G. Gallagher]

I've used this script from for a couple of years now on several different
projects. It works great. 

Just an unsolicited testimonial from a satisfied customer.

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com 
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:21 AM
To: 'Graham, Jasmine S'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to "unlock" the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ?
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Subject: RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hi Jasmine,

This is a known issue with FrameMaker/Acrobat. I have a FrameScript script
that allows you to "unlock" the text insets before creating the PDF, which
effectively solves the link problem in the resulting PDF. After you create
the PDF, the script relocks the text insets. (The ability to unlock and lock
text insets is not exposed in the FrameMaker interface.) The cost for the
script is $80. If you don't have FrameScript, I can sell you a FrameScript
license and the script for $200. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:35 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF.
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct).
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination
being referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ?
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Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Graham, Jasmine S]

Hello Framers,

 

Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets 
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text 
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF. 
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the 
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct). 
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination being 
referenced. 

 

I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any 
ideas?

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

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Re: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[David Spreadbury]

Jasmine,
Probably not the desired option, but you could try importing the text insets 
into the document instead of by reference.
 
There has been other activity here on this subject. You might want to search 
the archives and see what developed from those earlier queries.

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Graham, Jasmine S yassamin.gra...@weatherford.com wrote:


From: Graham, Jasmine S yassamin.gra...@weatherford.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 9:34 AM


Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets 
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text 
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF. 
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the 
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct). 
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination being 
referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any 
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ 
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RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Alison Craig]

There was a thread back in April that talked about this: Cross-references and 
text insets.

From that I learned that you can't do this manually, but, this solution was 
proffered:

 Hi,
 
 Just to let you know, I do have a FrameScript solution that makes the 
 cross-references work in the PDFs. If you are interested, please contact 
 me offlist. Thank you very much.

 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc.
 585-659-8267
 r...@frameexpert.com

 *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
Fax: (604) 279-8559
E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 
 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Graham, Jasmine S
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:35 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,

 

Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets 
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text 
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF. 
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the 
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct). 
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination being 
referenced. 

 

I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any 
ideas?

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ 
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RE: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Combs, Richard]

Graham, Jasmine S wrote:
 
 Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text
 insets into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within
 the text insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the
 book PDF. Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when
 updating the book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all
 numbering is correct). Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to
 jump to the destination being referenced.

This is a long-standing bug (I've only dealt with it in unstructured FM, but 
I'm sure it's the same problem). The workaround is this: 

1) Just before producing the PDF, open and save all files in the book. 

2) Flatten all text insets in the book (that is, convert them to text). 

3) Create the PDF. 

4) Close all the files _without saving_. 

Obviously, step 4 is critical, or you no longer have any text insets. And if 
you have lots of books with lots of files containing lots of text insets, this 
is very tedious and error-prone. It's also highly scriptable, and as Alison 
suggested, Rick Quatro (frameexpert.com) is the man to see. 


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Polycom, Inc.
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[Graham, Jasmine S]

Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets 
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text 
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF. 
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the 
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct). 
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination being 
referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any 
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

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Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[David Spreadbury]

Jasmine,
Probably not the desired option, but you could try importing the text insets 
into the document instead of by reference.
?
There has been other activity here on this subject. You might want to search 
the archives and see what developed from those earlier queries.

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Graham, Jasmine S  
wrote:


From: Graham, Jasmine S 
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 9:34 AM


Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets 
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text 
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF. 
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the 
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct). 
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination being 
referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any 
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.graham at weatherford.com ? www.weatherford.com

Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

[Alison Craig]

There was a thread back in April that talked about this: "Cross-references and 
text insets".

>From that I learned that you can't do this manually, but, this solution was 
>proffered:

> Hi,
> 
> Just to let you know, I do have a FrameScript solution that makes the 
> cross-references work in the PDFs. If you are interested, please contact 
> me offlist. Thank you very much.

> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-659-8267
> rick at frameexpert.com
>
> *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
Fax: (604) 279-8559
E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com



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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:35 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame X-REFs in Text Inset not Active in Book PDF

Hello Framers,



Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text insets 
into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within the text 
insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the book PDF. 
Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when updating the 
book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all numbering is correct). 
Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to jump to the destination being 
referenced. 



I tried looking at the PDF job options, but didn't see anything obvious. Any 
ideas?



Thanks in advance! 



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

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[Combs, Richard]

Graham, Jasmine S wrote:

> Structured Frame 8.0 (TCS1), XP, importing procedures written in text
> insets into multiple books. I found today that any cross-references within
> the text insets are not getting picked up as active cross-references in the
> book PDF. Any other normal X-REFs are working fine. No X-REF errors when
> updating the book in Frame. All X-REFs are updating correctly (all
> numbering is correct). Just can't click these x-ref links in the PDF to
> jump to the destination being referenced.

This is a long-standing bug (I've only dealt with it in unstructured FM, but 
I'm sure it's the same problem). The workaround is this: 

1) Just before producing the PDF, open and save all files in the book. 

2) "Flatten" all text insets in the book (that is, convert them to text). 

3) Create the PDF. 

4) Close all the files _without saving_. 

Obviously, step 4 is critical, or you no longer have any text insets. And if 
you have lots of books with lots of files containing lots of text insets, this 
is very tedious and error-prone. It's also highly scriptable, and as Alison 
suggested, Rick Quatro (frameexpert.com) is the man to see. 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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