Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Theresa de Valence]

I think it's a software problem. Either the software doesn't allow free 
posting to the list, or the software is too complicated for the 
moderator to change people into unmoderated status.


Just my two cents.

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Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Craig Ede]

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation of
this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but serious
users ought to be able to post their questions without long waits and to see
the answers posted by experienced users who are being moderated. [As a
long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of the flame-wars that
used to break out here every year and a half or so.]

 

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

 

Craig

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
To: FrameMaker Users List
Subject: FrameMaker graphics question

 

I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't
see my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and
that just doesn't work for me,




 

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Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Alan Litchfield]

You know, that is kind of why I do not post much anymore. Threads became 
quite confused as some posts were held back and answered earlier thread 
posts, which were themselves answered by others who posted later but 
were passed through sooner.


I think I would be a long-time framer too, by now.

True about those flame wars, but there is little evidence of them now. 
So either people are better behaved or the moderation is working.


Alan

On 4/06/14 1:52 AM, Craig Ede wrote:

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation
of this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but
serious users ought to be able to post their questions without long
waits and to see the answers posted by experienced users who are being
moderated. [As a long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of
the flame-wars that used to break out here every year and a half or so.]

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

Craig

*From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly
*Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
*To:* FrameMaker Users List
*Subject:* FrameMaker graphics question

I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I
don't see my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after
posting and that just doesn't work for me,




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RE: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Fred Ridder]

Craig asked who is the moderator of this list at this point, and I have to say 
that I don't know. I did visit the www.frameusers.com website, and that site 
appears to still be owned by Brad Anderson, who also used to be (and maybe 
still is...) the listowner of this list.  But I also noted that there is no 
content there that is newer than July 2011 (FrameMaker 10 still being referred 
to as new), so it appears that FrameMaker and frameusers.com are not very 
high on Brad's priority list these days. 

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:30:59 +1200
 From: a...@alphabyte.co.nz
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question
 
 You know, that is kind of why I do not post much anymore. Threads became 
 quite confused as some posts were held back and answered earlier thread 
 posts, which were themselves answered by others who posted later but 
 were passed through sooner.
 
 I think I would be a long-time framer too, by now.
 
 True about those flame wars, but there is little evidence of them now. 
 So either people are better behaved or the moderation is working.
 
 Alan
 
 On 4/06/14 1:52 AM, Craig Ede wrote:
  Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation
  of this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but
  serious users ought to be able to post their questions without long
  waits and to see the answers posted by experienced users who are being
  moderated. [As a long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of
  the flame-wars that used to break out here every year and a half or so.]
 
  Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
  without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?
 
  Craig
 
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  [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly
  *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
  *To:* FrameMaker Users List
  *Subject:* FrameMaker graphics question
 
  I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I
  don't see my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after
  posting and that just doesn't work for me,
 
 
 
 
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Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Johan Anglemark]

I emailed a question to the moderator about this a year ago or so but 
never even got a reply. I have instead stopped writing to the list.


-j

On 2014-06-03 15:52, Craig Ede wrote:

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation
of this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but
serious users ought to be able to post their questions without long
waits and to see the answers posted by experienced users who are being
moderated. [As a long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of
the flame-wars that used to break out here every year and a half or so.]

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

Craig

*From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly
*Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
*To:* FrameMaker Users List
*Subject:* FrameMaker graphics question

I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I
don't see my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after
posting and that just doesn't work for me,





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RE: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Harding, Dan]

I made a similar complaint about the over-moderation and delays as of late on 
this list, and the message was never posted to the list... as I expect this one 
to not be posted as well.

Manual approval for every single message to the list is an outdated method. For 
those people who need help resolving problems in a timely manner, having to 
wait until the next 24- or 48-hour moderation point comes up slows down 
communication and resolution in both directions.

On an open list, responses can be made and viewed as fast as the parties make 
them. With manual moderation, party A makes a request, it's actually made 
public up to 24 hours later. Even if someone responds with an answer, THAT 
response won't be seen by the originator (unless cc'd) until another 24 hours 
pass, thus slowing down each response cycle to as long as 48 hours.

This list was not always manually processed like it is now. What brought it on, 
and was it approved by the list membership or unilaterally decided upon by one 
or two parties? For that matter, as Craig asked, who is actually in charge of 
this list?

For the list to be effective, the communication needs to be in real time (or as 
close to real time as email allows).

-Dan

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:52 AM
To: 'Ken Poshedly'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation of 
this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but serious 
users ought to be able to post their questions without long waits and to see 
the answers posted by experienced users who are being moderated. [As a 
long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of the flame-wars that used 
to break out here every year and a half or so.]

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through without 
moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

Craig

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
To: FrameMaker Users List
Subject: FrameMaker graphics question

I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that 
just doesn't work for me,


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Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Ken Poshedly]

Just to let all know that I had e-mailed the list moderator either the same day 
or one day later (and that was what? a week ago or so?), and I still don't know 
why my posts are held back.

-- Ken in Atlanta



On Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:57 AM, Harding, Dan dhard...@illinois.edu 
wrote:
 



I made a similar complaint about the over-moderation and delays as of late on 
this list, and the message was never posted to the list… as I expect this one 
to not be posted as well.
 
Manual approval for every single message to the list is an outdated method. 
For those people who need help resolving problems in a timely manner, having 
to wait until the next 24- or 48-hour moderation point comes up slows down 
communication and resolution in both directions.
 
On an open list, responses can be made and viewed as fast as the parties make 
them. With manual moderation, party A makes a request, it’s actually made 
public up to 24 hours later. Even if someone responds with an answer, THAT 
response won’t be seen by the originator (unless cc’d) until another 24 hours 
pass, thus slowing down each response cycle to as long as 48 hours.
 
This list was not always manually processed like it is now. What brought it 
on, and was it approved by the list membership or unilaterally decided upon by 
one or two parties? For that matter, as Craig asked, who is actually in charge 
of this list?
 
For the list to be effective, the communication needs to be in real time (or 
as close to real time as email allows).
 
-Dan
 
From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:52 AM
To: 'Ken Poshedly'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question
 
Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation of 
this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but serious 
users ought to be able to post their questions without long waits and to see 
the answers posted by experienced users who are being moderated. [As a 
long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of the flame-wars that 
used to break out here every year and a half or so.]
 
Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through 
without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?
 
Craig
 
From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
To: FrameMaker Users List
Subject: FrameMaker graphics question
 
I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that 
just doesn't work for me,


 

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Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Theresa de Valence]

I USED to be unmoderated on this list but for some reason I got 
unlisted. About 10 years ago I wrote a pleading letter asking to be 
reinstated but I heard nothing . . .


and my posts show up days (and days) later.

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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Ken, 

in FM 12 you can define object formats which can be used along with the
import of graphics. (Maybe this is also possible in FM 11...). 

So, with activated option use object style, you would automatically
apply a pre-defined format to the graphic, lets say a 0.5pt line and
runaround options = zero. 

About the tables: 

You may use an anchored frame as before and first put a text frame
inside filling it 100% (width). This text frame could hold any table you
want. And btw: A table can have a title at the bottom, so there is no
need to have a second row. You could display the figure no. as redefined
table no., which would go along with the table format (and para format
used here) automatically. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Ken Poshedly: 

 I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
 my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that 
 just doesn't work for me,
 
 We produce operator and other manuals for a heavy equipment manufacturing 
 company using FrameMaker 11.0 on a Windows XP plaform.
 
 1. Is there a way to force a certain width line border around all imported 
 graphics as they are brought in?
 
 2. Is there a more elegant way to insert a sequential figure number than 
 how my company currently does it?
 
 Background for question 1:
 The procedure here for inserting images is to first insert a right-aligned 
 anchored frame 3.25 in. wide. That frame is set to Run into Paragraph and 
 as already stated, Right Aligned; it is anchored to its procedural text to 
 the left, so if its procedural text is deleted or moved, that anchored frame 
 goes with it. 
 
 I then import by reference an subject image inside that anchored frame, scale 
 it to 2.75 in. wide and then right-align it inside that anchored frame. (The 
 height of the subject image, of course, then dictates the height of the 
 anchored frame, but that's no problem.) That leaves a 0.50 inch margin 
 between the left side of the subject image and the left side of the anchored 
 frame.
 
 The reason for the anchored frame, by the way, is to artificially force the 
 procedural text for that subject graphic into a one-column format. Yes, I'm 
 one of the few who still believes that a true two-column format should be 
 used throughout a book (whether or not there are images on the right), but my 
 NOT tech writing or page layout-sophisticated supervisor believes all white 
 space on a page needs to be used. Thus, most pages wind up with a mix of 
 one-column and two-column layouts. (Those paragraphs not accompanied by a 
 graphic are full-page-width, while those paragraphs with a graphic are 
 artificially left-column-width. Pretty sloppy to my way of thinking.)
 
 Anyway . . . after importing, positioning and scaling the subject image as 
 described above, I left-click on it (the image, not the anchored frame) and 
 use the Graphics toolbox icons to select a solid black border that is 0.5 pt 
 in width because all images (referenced or embedded) import naked (with no 
 line border). 
 
 So CAN a line border with a predefined width be set so we don't have to do it 
 for every image? (Of course anchored frames with images that are used 
 repeatedly are simply copied and pasted wherever required and they retain 
 their size and border attributes.)
 
 Background for question 2:
 
 After the image is imported, positioned, sized and bordered, a small text 
 box is also placed inside the anchored frame but directly below the subject 
 image and left-aligned with its left border. The empty paragraph marker 
 within that little text box is then tagged section graphic counter; it is 
 set to then automatically display the word Fig. and the applicable chapter 
 and sequential figure number separated by a hyphen. For example, Fig. 1-2. 
 Surely you get the idea.
 
 That little text box is a problem because one has to eyeball its placement to 
 make sure it's not too close and not too far from its subject graphic and 
 that it is perfectly left-aligned with the left border of its subject 
 graphic. Then the subject graphic's runaround props must be set to Do not 
 runaround or else no graphic counter text appears inside the little text 
 box.What a damn pain in the . . .!
 
 Note that we do also use full-page-width images and in those cases, I simply 
 insert a two-row, single-column table, stretch it to full-page-width, import 
 and center the image into the top row (or cell), tag the empty paragraph 
 marker inside row 2 as section graphic counter and the result is as 
 described above (left-aligned text with Fig. 1-2 or whatever), but without 
 having to create another funky little text box.
 
 I toyed with creating a one-column, two-row, right-aligned table to use this 
 method for single-column-width graphics, but FrameMaker doesn't allow text to 
 the left of a table (at least that I know of). And Frame (or a least MY 
 version) doesn't allow placement of a table 

FrameMaker graphics question

[Ken Poshedly]

I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
my 
infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that just 
doesn't work for me,

We produce operator and other manuals for a heavy equipment manufacturing 
company using FrameMaker 11.0 on a Windows XP plaform.

1. Is there a way to force a certain width line border around all imported 
graphics as they are brought in?

2. Is there a more elegant way to insert a sequential figure number than how 
my company currently does it?

Background for question 1:
The
 procedure here for inserting images is to first insert a right-aligned 
anchored frame 3.25 in. wide. That frame is set to Run into Paragraph 
and as already stated, Right Aligned; it is anchored to its procedural
 text to the left, so if its procedural text is deleted or  moved, that 
anchored frame goes with it. 

I then import by reference an 
subject image inside that anchored frame, scale it to 2.75 in. wide and 
then right-align it inside that anchored frame. (The height of the 
subject image, of course, then dictates the height of the anchored 
frame, but that's no problem.) That leaves a 0.50 inch margin between 
the left side of the subject image and the left side of the anchored 
frame.

The reason for the anchored frame, by the way, is to 
artificially force the procedural text for that subject graphic into a 
one-column format. Yes, I'm one of the few who still believes that a 
true two-column format should be used throughout a book (whether or not 
there are images on the right), but my NOT tech writing or page 
layout-sophisticated supervisor believes all white space on a page needs
 to be used. Thus, most pages wind up with a mix of one-column and 
two-column layouts. (Those paragraphs not accompanied by a graphic are 
full-page-width, while those paragraphs with a graphic are artificially 
left-column-width. Pretty sloppy to my way of thinking.)

Anyway .
 . . after importing, positioning and scaling the subject image as 
described above, I left-click on it (the image, not the anchored frame) 
and use the Graphics toolbox icons to select a solid black border that 
is 0.5 pt in width because all images (referenced or embedded) import 
naked (with no line border). 

So CAN a line border with a 
predefined width be set so we don't have to do it for every image? (Of 
course anchored frames with images that are used repeatedly are simply 
copied and pasted wherever required and they retain their size and 
border attributes.)

Background for question 2:

After the 
image is imported, positioned, sized and bordered, a small text box is
 also placed inside the anchored frame but directly below the subject 
image and left-aligned with its left border. The empty paragraph marker 
within that little text box is then tagged section graphic counter; it
 is set to then automatically display the word Fig. and the applicable
 chapter and sequential figure number separated by a hyphen. For 
example, Fig. 1-2. Surely you get the idea.

That little text 
box is a problem because one has to eyeball its placement to make sure 
it's not too close and not too far from its subject graphic and that it 
is perfectly left-aligned with the left border of its subject graphic. 
Then the subject graphic's runaround props must be set to Do not 
runaround or else no graphic counter text appears inside the little 
text box.What a damn pain in the . . .!

Note that we do also use 
full-page-width images and in those cases, I simply insert a two-row, 
single-column table, stretch it to full-page-width, import and center 
the image into the top row (or cell), tag the empty paragraph marker 
inside row 2 as section graphic counter and the result is as described
 above (left-aligned text with Fig. 1-2 or whatever), but without 
having to create another funky little text box.

I toyed with 
creating a one-column, two-row, right-aligned table to use this method 
for single-column-width graphics, but FrameMaker doesn't allow text to 
the left of a table (at least that I know of). And Frame (or a least MY 
version) doesn't allow placement of a table inside an anchored frame. (I
 just tried it once more and it won't.)

So again I ask if  there a way to accomplish this whole extravaganza more 
simply?

Yep, it's Friday.

Ken in Atlanta
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FrameMaker graphics question

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
page, then write text on top of it.


I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
body page.


Any ideas?

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text 
in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?



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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

[Waltermeyer, Brenda L.]

Hi Shmuel,

Just a thought, when you inserted the graphic on the master page do you
select it the box to insert as background?





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On 8/11/11 9:41 AM, Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com wrote:

I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire
page, then write text on top of it.

I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the
body page.

Any ideas?

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text
in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?


-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson


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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:41 +0300 11/8/11, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire page, 
then write text on top of it.

I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the body page.

Any ideas?

Should work ok. Obvious question: is the body page you are looking at the one 
that uses the master page with the graphic? ;-)

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text in 
text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?

I'm not sure that there's a right way, but that's certainly a valid way to do 
it. It all depends on how you want the text to behave, flow/not flow, etc.

Just in case I've missed something, I've just done what you suggest and it 
works ok here. I used an all-black background on the master page and white text 
in the text frame on the body page.

The only problem you may encounter is in printing a page that contains 
edge-to-edge graphics, as many printers cannot print right to the edge of a 
page. PDFs should be fine though.

-- 
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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

[Mike Wickham]

Schmuel, you are on the right path, but it sounds like you clicked 
inside the text box on the master page before you imported the graphic. 
Click outside the text box before you import the graphic.


This is probably something you already know, but if this document is 
designed for printing press, don't forget to make the background graphic 
bleed. Make it slightly larger than the page size-- typically 1/8'' 
extra on all sides, then set the offset  top and left to -0.125 to 
center it. This allows for variance when the pages are cut, so that no 
white border appears in the final print.


Mike Wickham

On 8/11/2011 8:41 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
page, then write text on top of it.


I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
body page.


Any ideas?

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the 
text in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?





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Re: FrameMaker graphics question

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Thanks Mike. That was the problem. I inserted the graphic inside the 
text frame on the master page. When I inserted it outside the text frame 
it worked.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson


On 8/11/2011 5:14 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:
Schmuel, you are on the right path, but it sounds like you clicked 
inside the text box on the master page before you imported the 
graphic. Click outside the text box before you import the graphic.


This is probably something you already know, but if this document is 
designed for printing press, don't forget to make the background 
graphic bleed. Make it slightly larger than the page size-- 
typically 1/8'' extra on all sides, then set the offset  top and left 
to -0.125 to center it. This allows for variance when the pages are 
cut, so that no white border appears in the final print.


Mike Wickham

On 8/11/2011 8:41 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
page, then write text on top of it.


I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
body page.


Any ideas?

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the 
text in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?





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FrameMaker graphics question

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
page, then write text on top of it.

I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
body page.

Any ideas?

I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text 
in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?


-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

FrameMaker graphics question

[Waltermeyer, Brenda L.]

Hi Shmuel,

Just a thought, when you inserted the graphic on the master page do you
select it the box to insert as background?





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On 8/11/11 9:41 AM, "Shmuel Wolfson"  wrote:

>I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire
>page, then write text on top of it.
>
>I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the
>body page.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text
>in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?
>
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
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FrameMaker graphics question

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:41 +0300 11/8/11, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

>I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire page, 
>then write text on top of it.
>
>I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the body page.
>
>Any ideas?

Should work ok. Obvious question: is the body page you are looking at the one 
that uses the master page with the graphic? ;-)

>I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the text in 
>text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?

I'm not sure that there's a right way, but that's certainly a valid way to do 
it. It all depends on how you want the text to behave, flow/not flow, etc.

Just in case I've missed something, I've just done what you suggest and it 
works ok here. I used an all-black background on the master page and white text 
in the text frame on the body page.

The only problem you may encounter is in printing a page that contains 
edge-to-edge graphics, as many printers cannot print right to the edge of a 
page. PDFs should be fine though.

-- 
Steve

FrameMaker graphics question

[Mike Wickham]

Schmuel, you are on the right path, but it sounds like you clicked 
inside the text box on the master page before you imported the graphic. 
Click outside the text box before you import the graphic.

This is probably something you already know, but if this document is 
designed for printing press, don't forget to make the background graphic 
"bleed." Make it slightly larger than the page size-- typically 1/8'' 
extra on all sides, then set the offset  top and left to -0.125" to 
center it. This allows for variance when the pages are cut, so that no 
white border appears in the final print.

Mike Wickham

On 8/11/2011 8:41 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
> I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
> page, then write text on top of it.
>
> I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
> body page.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the 
> text in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?
>
>

FrameMaker graphics question

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Thanks Mike. That was the problem. I inserted the graphic inside the 
text frame on the master page. When I inserted it outside the text frame 
it worked.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson


On 8/11/2011 5:14 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:
> Schmuel, you are on the right path, but it sounds like you clicked 
> inside the text box on the master page before you imported the 
> graphic. Click outside the text box before you import the graphic.
>
> This is probably something you already know, but if this document is 
> designed for printing press, don't forget to make the background 
> graphic "bleed." Make it slightly larger than the page size-- 
> typically 1/8'' extra on all sides, then set the offset  top and left 
> to -0.125" to center it. This allows for variance when the pages are 
> cut, so that no white border appears in the final print.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
> On 8/11/2011 8:41 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>> I'd like to insert a graphic on the cover page that covers the entire 
>> page, then write text on top of it.
>>
>> I inserted the graphic on the master page, but I don't see it on the 
>> body page.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> I planned on inserting the large graphic on the master page and the 
>> text in text boxes on the body page. Is that the right way to do this?
>>
>>
>
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