Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Brenda Waltermeyer
Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2

I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my headings.

Example: 

? 1.1 Heading 1

Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my
references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the
paragraph tag. I can’t use the Character tag on the Numbering screen because
I use something else there for my headings. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. 

Thanks


Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748

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Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Here's a previously posted reply:


If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the
letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you
want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf
Dingbats.

You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet
if you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is
a MIF hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here
before.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Brenda Waltermeyer wrote:
 Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2

 I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my headings.

 Example: 

 ? 1.1 Heading 1

 Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my
 references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the
 paragraph tag. I can’t use the Character tag on the Numbering screen because
 I use something else there for my headings. Any help would be greatly
 appreciated. 

 Thanks

 
 Brenda L. Waltermeyer
 Lead Desktop Publisher
 The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
 National Security Technology Department
 Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
 Room 8-375
 Phone: (443) 778-8748

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RE: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Are you working in structured or unstructured files?  You don't say.

If structured, you can define a prefix in the EDD that appears before
the autonumber, for each heading element  (if you have level rules, you
may only have one to worry about).  Apply appropriate format rules to
this for the various heading elements.

If unstructured, to my knowledge you can't do this without defining a
new paragraph tag for the square bullet.  Apply the appropriate info in
the numbering properties (desired character as the numbering string, and
character format for dingbats).  Then, in the pagination properties set
it to run into the following paragraph and no punctuation - use a hard
space only.  (you probably also should make the basic property next
paragraph tag be some heading level tag).

You will have to insert a copy of this new paragraph (with no text
entered) before each heading that you wish to display the square bullet.

On Thursday, August 09, 2007 08:35 AM, Brenda Waltermeyer wrote:

| Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2
|
| I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my
headings.
|
| Example:
|
| ? 1.1 Heading 1
|
| Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my
| references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the
| paragraph tag. I can't use the Character tag on the Numbering screen
| because I use something else there for my headings. Any help would
| be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks
| 
| Brenda L. Waltermeyer
| Lead Desktop Publisher
| The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
| National Security Technology Department
| Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
| Room 8-375
| Phone: (443) 778-8748 

- Lester
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Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
One way of messing with this would be to add a run-in heading with
Dingbats before the other headings. Only allow for it when setting the
indents and tabulature of the headings.

Bodvar

On 8/9/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

 If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
 font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
 character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the
 letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you
 want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf
 Dingbats.

 Won't that set the autonumber in Dingbats too, producing rubbish?

 --
 Steve
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Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:48 -0400 9/8/07, Brenda Waltermeyer wrote:

That is exactly what it does (rubbish). I need it to be included in the
numbering string not as a character style. I already have a character style
called ZHeadNum in the Character Format under Numbering tab in the Paragraph
designer. I need to include it some where for my Heading numbers. Any
thoughts would be appreciated.

FrameMaker applies a character tag to the entire autonumber string, so I would 
guess that you could to try to find a symbol font that includes the digits 0..9 
in their expected ASCII positions. I have no idea whether such a font exists.

Lester and Bodvar have given you ingenious workarounds. I had a feeling someone 
would.

-- 
Steve
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Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Brenda Waltermeyer
Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2

I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my headings.

Example: 

? 1.1 Heading 1

Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my
references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the
paragraph tag. I can??t use the Character tag on the Numbering screen because
I use something else there for my headings. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. 

Thanks


Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748




Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Here's a previously posted reply:


If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the
letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you
want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf
Dingbats.

You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet
if you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is
a MIF hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here
before.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Brenda Waltermeyer wrote:
> Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2
>
> I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my headings.
>
> Example: 
>
> ? 1.1 Heading 1
>
> Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my
> references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the
> paragraph tag. I can??t use the Character tag on the Numbering screen because
> I use something else there for my headings. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated. 
>
> Thanks
>
> 
> Brenda L. Waltermeyer
> Lead Desktop Publisher
> The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
> National Security Technology Department
> Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
> Room 8-375
> Phone: (443) 778-8748
>
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Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

>If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
>font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
>character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the
>letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you
>want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf
>Dingbats.

Won't that set the autonumber in Dingbats too, producing rubbish?

-- 
Steve



Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Are you working in structured or unstructured files?  You don't say.

If structured, you can define a prefix in the EDD that appears before
the autonumber, for each heading element  (if you have level rules, you
may only have one to worry about).  Apply appropriate format rules to
this for the various heading elements.

If unstructured, to my knowledge you can't do this without defining a
new paragraph tag for the square bullet.  Apply the appropriate info in
the numbering properties (desired character as the numbering string, and
character format for dingbats).  Then, in the pagination properties set
it to run into the following paragraph and no punctuation - use a hard
space only.  (you probably also should make the basic property "next
paragraph" tag be some heading level tag).

You will have to insert a copy of this new paragraph (with no text
entered) before each heading that you wish to display the square bullet.

On Thursday, August 09, 2007 08:35 AM, Brenda Waltermeyer wrote:

| Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2
|
| I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my
headings.
|
| Example:
|
| ? 1.1 Heading 1
|
| Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my
| references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the
| paragraph tag. I can't use the Character tag on the Numbering screen
| because I use something else there for my headings. Any help would
| be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks
| 
| Brenda L. Waltermeyer
| Lead Desktop Publisher
| The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
| National Security Technology Department
| Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
| Room 8-375
| Phone: (443) 778-8748 

- Lester
---
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712  
Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com 
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Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
One way of messing with this would be to add a run-in heading with
Dingbats before the other headings. Only allow for it when setting the
indents and tabulature of the headings.

Bodvar

On 8/9/07, Steve Rickaby  wrote:
> At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>
> >If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
> >font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
> >character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the
> >letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you
> >want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf
> >Dingbats.
>
> Won't that set the autonumber in Dingbats too, producing rubbish?
>
> --
> Steve
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Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:48 -0400 9/8/07, Brenda Waltermeyer wrote:

>That is exactly what it does (rubbish). I need it to be included in the
>numbering string not as a character style. I already have a character style
>called ZHeadNum in the Character Format under Numbering tab in the Paragraph
>designer. I need to include it some where for my Heading numbers. Any
>thoughts would be appreciated.

FrameMaker applies a character tag to the entire autonumber string, so I would 
guess that you could to try to find a symbol font that includes the digits 0..9 
in their expected ASCII positions. I have no idea whether such a font exists.

Lester and Bodvar have given you ingenious workarounds. I had a feeling someone 
would.

-- 
Steve



Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Brenda Waltermeyer
Steve,

That is exactly what it does (rubbish). I need it to be included in the
numbering string not as a character style. I already have a character style
called ZHeadNum in the Character Format under Numbering tab in the Paragraph
designer. I need to include it some where for my Heading numbers. Any
thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
National Security Technology Department
Visual Information, Editorial, and Web Services, STB-4 Section
Room 8-375
Phone: (443) 778-8748


> From: Steve Rickaby 
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:37:04 +0100
> To: Shmuel Wolfson , Brenda Waltermeyer
> , framers 
> Subject: Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet
> 
> At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
> 
>> If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
>> font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
>> character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the
>> letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you
>> want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf
>> Dingbats.
> 
> Won't that set the autonumber in Dingbats too, producing rubbish?
> 
> -- 
> Steve