Re: Trouble with cross-references
Do the files contain text insets...do they precede the x-refs that give you trouble... When updating text insets, they delete any x-ref markers that are placed at the beginning of a paragraph (: My solution is to always create a r-ref marker for a paragraph before adding the text inset, moving the marker to elsewhere in the paragraph, and then adding the text inset. Then, all is well. Good luck. At 05:06 PM 14/02/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Framers, FrameMaker 7.p576 Windows XP Professional I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a new book, and added the files to the new book. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page numbers, and so forth. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sobrien%40innovmetric.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Stephen O'Brien Technical Writer / Rédacteur technique InnovMetric Software Inc. / InnovMetric Logiciels inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6 Tel.: (418) 688-2061 Fax: (418) 688-3001 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.innovmetric.com PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing (TM) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Trouble with cross-references
Do the files contain text insets...do they precede the x-refs that give you trouble... When updating text insets, they delete any x-ref markers that are placed at the beginning of a paragraph (: My solution is to always create a r-ref marker for a paragraph before adding the text inset, moving the marker to elsewhere in the paragraph, and then adding the text inset. Then, all is well. Good luck. At 05:06 PM 14/02/2007, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote: >Hi Framers, > >FrameMaker 7.p576 >Windows XP Professional > >I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, >for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved >cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references >that do not generate this message. > >Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- >reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it >with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. >Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The >next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved >again. > >I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from >the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a >new book, and added the files to the new book. > >Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references >are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page >numbers, and so forth. >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as sobrien at innovmetric.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sobrien%40innovmetric.com > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Stephen O'Brien Technical Writer / R?dacteur technique InnovMetric Software Inc. / InnovMetric Logiciels inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6 Tel.: (418) 688-2061 Fax: (418) 688-3001 E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com www.innovmetric.com PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing (TM)
Trouble with cross-references - RESOLVED
Thanks to all who offered suggestions for fixing my x-ref problem. Once I followed Richard's instructions for managing the unavailable fonts messages, the x-ref messages went away. Richard, I turned off Remember Missing Font Names, saved and closed everything, turned Remember... back on, and everything is fine. Again, many thanks! Pearl Rosenberg TeleHealth Services
Trouble with cross-references
Hi Framers, FrameMaker 7.p576 Windows XP Professional I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a new book, and added the files to the new book. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page numbers, and so forth. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Trouble with cross-references
Have you tried washing the chapters by saving as .mif files, reopening them, and saving as .fm? Art On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Framers, FrameMaker 7.p576 Windows XP Professional I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a new book, and added the files to the new book. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page numbers, and so forth. ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Trouble with cross-references
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. It's possible that the problem lies with the destination files, not the files containing the xrefs. To check or update an xref, FM must silently (in the background, without you noticing) open the file that the xref points to. If that file has a problem like a missing font or graphic, FM can't open the file silently, so it can't check the xref's destination (resolve it). Once you open the file, responding to the dialog about missing fonts or whatever, the xref is no longer unresolved. Try this: From the book file, hold down the Shift key and click File Open All Files in Book. If I'm on the right track, you'll be prompted about missing fonts or something before some of the files open. Once they're all open, a search for unresolved xrefs won't find any. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE: Trouble with cross-references
Richard, I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times and the files open and before I close them, I save them, but the next time I open them, I get the same messages. How could I have created the files with unavailable fonts? And more importantly, how do I fix this? This is particulary important bec I anticipate many updates to this manual and this iteration will be the basis for the next. Thanks in advance for your help. Pearl - Original Message - From: Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:38 pm Subject: RE: Trouble with cross-references To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@frameUsers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. It's possible that the problem lies with the destination files, not the files containing the xrefs. To check or update an xref, FM must silently (in the background, without you noticing) open the file that the xref points to. If that file has a problem like a missing font or graphic, FM can't open the file silently, so it can't check the xref's destination (resolve it).Once you open the file, responding to the dialog about missing fonts or whatever, the xref is no longer unresolved. Try this: From the book file, hold down the Shift key and click File Open All Files in Book. If I'm on the right track, you'll be prompted about missing fonts or something before some of the files open. Once they're all open, a search for unresolved xrefs won't find any. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times and the files open and before I close them, I save them, but the next time I open them, I get the same messages. If you're happy with the available fonts, do this get rid of the unavailable ones for good: 1) With all the files in your book closed, select File Preferences. In the dialog, uncheck Remember Missing Font Names and click Set. 2) Open all the files in your book. You'll get the unavailable fonts message one more time for each. Confirm that you want to replace the unavailable fonts. 3) Save all the files in your book and close them. 4) Open the files again. They should open without any unavailable fonts messages. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE: Trouble with cross-references
How could I have created the files with unavailable fonts? And more importantly, how do I fix this? This is particulary important bec I anticipate many updates to this manual and this iteration will be the basis for the next. Thanks in advance for your help. Pearl You probably didn't. However, you might have brought in other content that did. You might be using EPS and they include their own fonts. Change your setting for: File - Prefernces - General - Remember Missing Font Names John Posada Senior Technical Writer I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references
But after you're done clearing the missing font references, do return to FilePreferences and turn the remember Missing Fonts item back on because it is normally a good thing. This is particularly true if you ever work on files that originated someplace else (e.g. a client) and that will be returned after you work on them. If you have the Remember... option turned off, you may be returning files that use very different fonts than they did when you received them--not a nice thing to do to a client's files. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@frameUsers.com Subject: RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times and the files open and before I close them, I save them, but the next time I open them, I get the same messages. If you're happy with the available fonts, do this get rid of the unavailable ones for good: 1) With all the files in your book closed, select File Preferences. In the dialog, uncheck Remember Missing Font Names and click Set. 2) Open all the files in your book. You'll get the unavailable fonts message one more time for each. Confirm that you want to replace the unavailable fonts. 3) Save all the files in your book and close them. 4) Open the files again. They should open without any unavailable fonts messages. HTH! Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Trouble with cross-references
Hi Framers I encountered something that sounds very similar to this. I inherited a years-old project with multiple chapters that had undergone a number of revisions. Every time I attempted to generate a PDF of the entire Book the beast would die on me about 3/4 of the way through. It turns out that my villainous predecessors were in the habit of renaming the files at every revision to keep track of the versioning and the chapter order. (They appear to have never discovered the function of the Display Heading Text/Show Filename toggle in the Book view - a surprisingly common bit of ignorance among tyro Framers - so they didn't know how to tell if the chapters were in the desired order without hacking the filename to include some indication of the chapter number AND revision number.) Consequently there were legacy X-refs to headings in chapters that were still in the book, but which contained the old filename in their XRef definitions. I presume this happened because my predecessors didn't use the Rename File function in the book view, but probably renamed the files outside FM. I tried the flush-through-MIF routine which did not solve the problem since the legacy X-refs were still there. By chance during one of the failed PDF generation attempts I got a glimpse of the offending legacy file name, and was able to track the offending X-ref down in the MIF where I found that the XRefScrFile tag contained an ancient file name. As soon as I deleted that one single nasty XRef tag from the MIF everything worked happily from then on out. It would seem to be a doable task for some script-happy person to write a tool that would parse through a book's MIFs and delete all the Xref tags that contain out-of-date file names. (Obviously the user would have to supply a listing of legitimate current file names.) I'm a bit surprised that FM didn't handle some of this cleanup by itself, but these were SERIOUSLY abused documents so I can't fault the software. Hope this helps. Will White -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:06 PM To: framers@frameUsers.com Subject: Trouble with cross-references Hi Framers, FrameMaker 7.p576 Windows XP Professional I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a new book, and added the files to the new book. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page numbers, and so forth. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/wwhite%40onelambda.c om Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and attachments,if any, are the sole property of One Lambda, Inc. and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise prohibited by law from disclosure or re-disclosure. This information is intended solely for the individuals or entities to whom this e-mail or attachments are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are prohibited from using, copying, saving or disclosing this information to anyone else. Please destroy the message and any attachments immediately and notify the sender by return e-mail. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Trouble with cross-references
Hi Framers, FrameMaker 7.p576 Windows XP Professional I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a new book, and added the files to the new book. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page numbers, and so forth.
Trouble with cross-references
Have you tried "washing" the chapters by saving as .mif files, reopening them, and saving as .fm? Art On 2/14/07, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote: > Hi Framers, > > FrameMaker 7.p576 > Windows XP Professional > > I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, > for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved > cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references > that do not generate this message. > > Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- > reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it > with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. > Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The > next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved > again. > > I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from > the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a > new book, and added the files to the new book. > > Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references > are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page > numbers, and so forth. > ___ -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Trouble with cross-references
pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the
> chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that
> there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other
> chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message.
>
> Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references
> (every cross- reference in each of these chapters),
> double-click on each, replace it with the one in the
> cross-reference dialog box, and save the file.
> Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the
> book. The next time I open the book, the same
> cross-references are unresolved again.
It's possible that the problem lies with the destination files, not the
files containing the xrefs.
To check or update an xref, FM must "silently" (in the background,
without you noticing) open the file that the xref points to. If that
file has a problem like a missing font or graphic, FM can't open the
file silently, so it can't check the xref's destination ("resolve" it).
Once you open the file, responding to the dialog about missing fonts or
whatever, the xref is no longer unresolved.
Try this: From the book file, hold down the Shift key and click File >
Open All Files in Book. If I'm on the right track, you'll be prompted
about missing fonts or something before some of the files open. Once
they're all open, a search for unresolved xrefs won't find any.
HTH!
Richard
--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--
Trouble with cross-references
Richard,
I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, every one
displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable fonts and that
clicking OK will reformat the file with available fonts. I've click OK
for every file numerous times and the files open and before I close
them, I save them, but the next time I open them, I get the same
messages.
How could I have created the files with unavailable fonts? And more
importantly, how do I fix this? This is particulary important bec I
anticipate many updates to this manual and this iteration will be the
basis for the next.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl
- Original Message -
From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.co...@polycom.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:38 pm
Subject: RE: Trouble with cross-references
To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com, framers at frameUsers.com
> pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
>
> > I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the
> > chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that
> > there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other
> > chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message.
> >
> > Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references
> > (every cross- reference in each of these chapters),
> > double-click on each, replace it with the one in the
> > cross-reference dialog box, and save the file.
> > Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the
> > book. The next time I open the book, the same
> > cross-references are unresolved again.
>
> It's possible that the problem lies with the destination files,
> not the
> files containing the xrefs.
> To check or update an xref, FM must "silently" (in the background,
> without you noticing) open the file that the xref points to. If that
> file has a problem like a missing font or graphic, FM can't open the
> file silently, so it can't check the xref's destination ("resolve"
> it).Once you open the file, responding to the dialog about missing
> fonts or
> whatever, the xref is no longer unresolved.
>
> Try this: From the book file, hold down the Shift key and click
> File >
> Open All Files in Book. If I'm on the right track, you'll be prompted
> about missing fonts or something before some of the files open. Once
> they're all open, a search for unresolved xrefs won't find any.
>
> HTH!
> Richard
>
>
> --
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
>
>
Trouble with cross-references
Thanks, Art. I tried this. I converted the fm files to mif, converted the mif files to fm, and then cleaned up all the x-refs and saved the files. Unfortunately, when I opened the book again, the x-refs were ng. - Original Message - From: Art Campbell <art.campb...@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:24 pm Subject: Re: Trouble with cross-references To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" Cc: framers at frameusers.com > Have you tried "washing" the chapters by saving as .mif files, > reopening them, and saving as .fm? > > Art > > On 2/14/07, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote: > > Hi Framers, > > > > FrameMaker 7.p576 > > Windows XP Professional > > > > I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters > in it, > > for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved > > cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross- references > > that do not generate this message. > > > > Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every > cross- > > reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, > replace it > > with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. > > Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the > book. The > > next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved > > again. > > > > I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files > from> the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, > created a > > new book, and added the files to the new book. > > > > Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross- > references> are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, > chapters, page > > numbers, and so forth. > > ___ > > -- > Art Campbell > art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in > this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 >
Trouble with cross-references
pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote: > Richard, > I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, > every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable > fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with > available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times > and the files open and before I close them, I save them, but > the next time I open them, I get the same messages. If you're happy with the available fonts, do this get rid of the unavailable ones for good: 1) With all the files in your book closed, select File > Preferences. In the dialog, uncheck Remember Missing Font Names and click Set. 2) Open all the files in your book. You'll get the unavailable fonts message one more time for each. Confirm that you want to replace the unavailable fonts. 3) Save all the files in your book and close them. 4) Open the files again. They should open without any unavailable fonts messages. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Trouble with cross-references
> How could I have created the files with unavailable fonts? And more > importantly, how do I fix this? This is particulary important bec I > anticipate many updates to this manual and this iteration will be > the > basis for the next. > Thanks in advance for your help. > Pearl You probably didn't. However, you might have brought in other content that did. You might be using EPS and they include their own fonts. Change your setting for: File -> Prefernces -> General -> Remember Missing Font Names John Posada Senior Technical Writer "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is."
Trouble with cross-references
But after you're done clearing the missing font references, do return to File>Preferences and turn the remember Missing Fonts item back on because it is normally a good thing. This is particularly true if you ever work on files that originated someplace else (e.g. a client) and that will be returned after you work on them. If you have the "Remember..." option turned off, you may be returning files that use very different fonts than they did when you received them--not a nice thing to do to a client's files. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:37 PM To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com Cc: framers at frameUsers.com Subject: RE: RE: Trouble with cross-references pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote: > Richard, > I think this is on the right track. When I open the files, > every one displays a msg saying the file uses unavailable > fonts and that clicking OK will reformat the file with > available fonts. I've click OK for every file numerous times > and the files open and before I close them, I save them, but > the next time I open them, I get the same messages. If you're happy with the available fonts, do this get rid of the unavailable ones for good: 1) With all the files in your book closed, select File > Preferences. In the dialog, uncheck Remember Missing Font Names and click Set. 2) Open all the files in your book. You'll get the unavailable fonts message one more time for each. Confirm that you want to replace the unavailable fonts. 3) Save all the files in your book and close them. 4) Open the files again. They should open without any unavailable fonts messages. HTH! Richard
Trouble with cross-references
Hi Framers I encountered something that sounds very similar to this. I inherited a years-old project with multiple chapters that had undergone a number of revisions. Every time I attempted to generate a PDF of the entire Book the beast would die on me about 3/4 of the way through. It turns out that my villainous predecessors were in the habit of renaming the files at every revision to keep track of the versioning and the chapter order. (They appear to have never discovered the function of the Display Heading Text/Show Filename toggle in the Book view - a surprisingly common bit of ignorance among tyro Framers - so they didn't know how to tell if the chapters were in the desired order without hacking the filename to include some indication of the chapter number AND revision number.) Consequently there were legacy X-refs to headings in chapters that were still in the book, but which contained the old filename in their XRef definitions. I presume this happened because my predecessors didn't use the Rename File function in the book view, but probably renamed the files outside FM. I tried the flush-through-MIF routine which did not solve the problem since the legacy X-refs were still there. By chance during one of the failed PDF generation attempts I got a glimpse of the offending legacy file name, and was able to track the offending X-ref down in the MIF where I found that the tag contained an ancient file name. As soon as I deleted that one single nasty tag from the MIF everything worked happily from then on out. It would seem to be a doable task for some script-happy person to write a tool that would parse through a book's MIFs and delete all the tags that contain out-of-date file names. (Obviously the user would have to supply a listing of legitimate current file names.) I'm a bit surprised that FM didn't handle some of this cleanup by itself, but these were SERIOUSLY abused documents so I can't fault the software. Hope this helps. Will White -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+wwhite=onelambda@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+wwhite=onelambda.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:06 PM To: framers at frameUsers.com Subject: Trouble with cross-references Hi Framers, FrameMaker 7.p576 Windows XP Professional I have a book with 17 chapters. Every time I open the chapters in it, for six of the chapters I get a message that there are unresolved cross-references. There are six other chapters with cross-references that do not generate this message. Each time, I search for the unresolved cross-references (every cross- reference in each of these chapters), double-click on each, replace it with the one in the cross-reference dialog box, and save the file. Then I save all the files in the book and save and close the book. The next time I open the book, the same cross-references are unresolved again. I created this book from an earlier version by copying the files from the old directory to a new one. Then I opened FrameMaker, created a new book, and added the files to the new book. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? BTW, when the cross-references are unresolved, they correctly identify the heads, chapters, page numbers, and so forth. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as wwhite at onelambda.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/wwhite%40onelambda.c om Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and attachments,if any, are the sole property of One Lambda, Inc. and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise prohibited by law from disclosure or re-disclosure. This information is intended solely for the individuals or entities to whom this e-mail or attachments are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are prohibited from using, copying, saving or disclosing this information to anyone else. Please destroy the message and any attachments immediately and notify the sender by return e-mail. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses.
