character tags in cross reference text
Hi Caroline Thanks for that, but unfortunately - as Niels thought - it doesn't work in this situation. We have text like this: parameter1 option1 parameter2 parameter3 option3 where option1 and option3 need to be in italics. And the number of parameters and options varies. I have a nasty feeling I've seen other people post similar requests in the dim dark past and get no solutions, but thought I'd see if anyone's invented something clever. Cheers, Rebecca >>> "Caroline Tabach" 31/01/07 22:27 >>> I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as caroline at radcom.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.
character tags in cross reference text
Thanks Richard! I did the quick test (Courier -> Courier New) and it didn't preserve the italics but did preserve the different font in the xref. So the bits that I wanted to have Courier New italics were Courier New. That's a lot closer than I was before! So by the look of it, I need to find/make a version of Courier that has the italics as its "regular" form. That should be do-able. If anyone knows how off the top of their head, I'd appreciate the info. Otherwise, I'll go play. Cheers, Rebecca >>> "Combs, Richard" 1/02/07 10:21 >>> rebecca officer wrote: > I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a > cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged > text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? > > We document commands, and some of them have italics in part > of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step > instructions, the most reliable way to include the command > syntax is to use cross-references. > But the italics get lost. :-( I vaguely recall someone describing a (somewhat difficult) solution for this once, but don't have time to search for the post right now. IIRC, it was based on the fact that xrefs retain char formats that use a different font family. So, you need to create a copy of the font used with a new name -- I think you need Fontographer or equivalent because you have to change the internal name of the font. For instance, if you're using Courier for your commands, and applying the Variable char tag to italicize the variables, you create a new font, CourierCopy, and redefine the Variable char tag to be CourierCopy Italic. FM will retain this in your xrefs. As a quick test, try it with two similar-looking fonts, such as the PostScript font Courier and its TrueType cousin, Courier New -- if that works and looks OK, maybe you're done! :-) HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.
character tags in cross reference text - solved!
Got it!! For anyone else who wants to do the same, the solution was: 1. Close FM. 2. Back up maker.ini, then in the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of maker.ini, replace this line: Courier, Italic, *=Courier, Oblique, *, Regular with this line: Courier, Italic, *=CourierItalic, Oblique, *, Regular This makes FM call the italics Courier font "CourierItalic". 3. Open FM. Define the character tag to use CourierItalic instead of Courier. Thanks very much for your help, Richard. There's no way I'd have worked it out by myself. And once I had more of an idea what to google for, I found a post by Shlomo Perets that was very helpful too, so Shlomo, if you're reading this, thanks too. Cheers, Rebecca >>> "rebecca officer" 1/02/07 10:52 >>> Thanks Richard! I did the quick test (Courier -> Courier New) and it didn't preserve the italics but did preserve the different font in the xref. So the bits that I wanted to have Courier New italics were Courier New. That's a lot closer than I was before! So by the look of it, I need to find/make a version of Courier that has the italics as its "regular" form. That should be do-able. If anyone knows how off the top of their head, I'd appreciate the info. Otherwise, I'll go play. Cheers, Rebecca >>> "Combs, Richard" 1/02/07 10:21 >>> rebecca officer wrote: > I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a > cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged > text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? > > We document commands, and some of them have italics in part > of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step > instructions, the most reliable way to include the command > syntax is to use cross-references. > But the italics get lost. :-( I vaguely recall someone describing a (somewhat difficult) solution for this once, but don't have time to search for the post right now. IIRC, it was based on the fact that xrefs retain char formats that use a different font family. So, you need to create a copy of the font used with a new name -- I think you need Fontographer or equivalent because you have to change the internal name of the font. For instance, if you're using Courier for your commands, and applying the Variable char tag to italicize the variables, you create a new font, CourierCopy, and redefine the Variable char tag to be CourierCopy Italic. FM will retain this in your xrefs. As a quick test, try it with two similar-looking fonts, such as the PostScript font Courier and its TrueType cousin, Courier New -- if that works and looks OK, maybe you're done! :-) HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.
RE: character tags in cross reference text
I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: character tags in cross reference text
Hi, That isn't going to work - Rebeccas problem is that only part of the text-to-be-referenced is in italics. I'm not sure there is a solution to this... -Niels -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: 31. januar 2007 10:27 To: rebecca officer; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: character tags in cross reference text I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nfa%40maconomy.dk Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: character tags in cross reference text
Hi Caroline Thanks for that, but unfortunately - as Niels thought - it doesn't work in this situation. We have text like this: parameter1 option1 parameter2 parameter3 option3 where option1 and option3 need to be in italics. And the number of parameters and options varies. I have a nasty feeling I've seen other people post similar requests in the dim dark past and get no solutions, but thought I'd see if anyone's invented something clever. Cheers, Rebecca Caroline Tabach [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/01/07 22:27 I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: character tags in cross reference text
If the options are redundant/replicated two options I can think of are: 1: A variable for each option, as variables can contain formatting 2: An inset for each option. Or perhaps I'm missing a bit Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Senior Technical Writer Equis International - A Reuters Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180 Main Fax: (+1) 801.265.3999 URL: www.equis.com TZ: Mountain (GMT +7) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:45 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Caroline Tabach Subject: RE: character tags in cross reference text Hi Caroline Thanks for that, but unfortunately - as Niels thought - it doesn't work in this situation. We have text like this: parameter1 option1 parameter2 parameter3 option3 where option1 and option3 need to be in italics. And the number of parameters and options varies. I have a nasty feeling I've seen other people post similar requests in the dim dark past and get no solutions, but thought I'd see if anyone's invented something clever. Cheers, Rebecca Caroline Tabach [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/01/07 22:27 I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radcom.comwww.protocols.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: character tags in cross reference text
rebecca officer wrote: I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( I vaguely recall someone describing a (somewhat difficult) solution for this once, but don't have time to search for the post right now. IIRC, it was based on the fact that xrefs retain char formats that use a different font family. So, you need to create a copy of the font used with a new name -- I think you need Fontographer or equivalent because you have to change the internal name of the font. For instance, if you're using Courier for your commands, and applying the Variable char tag to italicize the variables, you create a new font, CourierCopy, and redefine the Variable char tag to be CourierCopy Italic. FM will retain this in your xrefs. As a quick test, try it with two similar-looking fonts, such as the PostScript font Courier and its TrueType cousin, Courier New -- if that works and looks OK, maybe you're done! :-) HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: character tags in cross reference text
Thanks Richard! I did the quick test (Courier - Courier New) and it didn't preserve the italics but did preserve the different font in the xref. So the bits that I wanted to have Courier New italics were Courier New. That's a lot closer than I was before! So by the look of it, I need to find/make a version of Courier that has the italics as its regular form. That should be do-able. If anyone knows how off the top of their head, I'd appreciate the info. Otherwise, I'll go play. Cheers, Rebecca Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/02/07 10:21 rebecca officer wrote: I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( I vaguely recall someone describing a (somewhat difficult) solution for this once, but don't have time to search for the post right now. IIRC, it was based on the fact that xrefs retain char formats that use a different font family. So, you need to create a copy of the font used with a new name -- I think you need Fontographer or equivalent because you have to change the internal name of the font. For instance, if you're using Courier for your commands, and applying the Variable char tag to italicize the variables, you create a new font, CourierCopy, and redefine the Variable char tag to be CourierCopy Italic. FM will retain this in your xrefs. As a quick test, try it with two similar-looking fonts, such as the PostScript font Courier and its TrueType cousin, Courier New -- if that works and looks OK, maybe you're done! :-) HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
character tags in cross reference text
Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.
character tags in cross reference text
I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline?Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer ??? Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email:?? caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+caroline=radcom.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as caroline at radcom.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
character tags in cross reference text
Hi, That isn't going to work - Rebeccas problem is that only part of the text-to-be-referenced is in italics. I'm not sure there is a solution to this... -Niels -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: 31. januar 2007 10:27 To: rebecca officer; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: character tags in cross reference text I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline?Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer ??? Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email:?? caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+caroline=radcom.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as caroline at radcom.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as NFA at maconomy.dk. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nfa%40maconomy.dk Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
character tags in cross reference text
If the options are redundant/replicated two options I can think of are: 1: A variable for each option, as variables can contain formatting 2: An inset for each option. Or perhaps I'm missing a bit Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Senior Technical Writer Equis International - A Reuters Company ghogarth at Equis.com / Grant.Hogarth at Reuters.com Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180 Main Fax: (+1) 801.265.3999 URL: www.equis.com TZ: Mountain (GMT +7) -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:45 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Caroline Tabach Subject: RE: character tags in cross reference text Hi Caroline Thanks for that, but unfortunately - as Niels thought - it doesn't work in this situation. We have text like this: parameter1 option1 parameter2 parameter3 option3 where option1 and option3 need to be in italics. And the number of parameters and options varies. I have a nasty feeling I've seen other people post similar requests in the dim dark past and get no solutions, but thought I'd see if anyone's invented something clever. Cheers, Rebecca >>> "Caroline Tabach" 31/01/07 22:27 >>> I think you would need to make a special cross reference style that you use just to create the cross references to the commands. Then define for that cross reference style that the characters should appear in italics (i.e. use for the cross reference the character tag that is used for the commands) Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.comwww.protocols.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:56 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: character tags in cross reference text Hi everyone I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? We document commands, and some of them have italics in part of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step instructions, the most reliable way to include the command syntax is to use cross-references. But the italics get lost. :-( Thanks! Rebecca
character tags in cross reference text
rebecca officer wrote: > I just wondered if anyone has a trick that lets you make a > cross-reference to something that includes character-tagged > text, and preserve the character tag in the cross-reference? > > We document commands, and some of them have italics in part > of the command syntax. In the associated step-by-step > instructions, the most reliable way to include the command > syntax is to use cross-references. > But the italics get lost. :-( I vaguely recall someone describing a (somewhat difficult) solution for this once, but don't have time to search for the post right now. IIRC, it was based on the fact that xrefs retain char formats that use a different font family. So, you need to create a copy of the font used with a new name -- I think you need Fontographer or equivalent because you have to change the internal name of the font. For instance, if you're using Courier for your commands, and applying the Variable char tag to italicize the variables, you create a new font, CourierCopy, and redefine the Variable char tag to be CourierCopy Italic. FM will retain this in your xrefs. As a quick test, try it with two similar-looking fonts, such as the PostScript font Courier and its TrueType cousin, Courier New -- if that works and looks OK, maybe you're done! :-) HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
character tags in cross reference text - solved!
rebecca officer wrote: > Got it!! > > For anyone else who wants to do the same, the solution was: > > 1. Close FM. > > 2. Back up maker.ini, then in the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] > section of maker.ini, replace this line: > Courier, Italic, *=Courier, Oblique, *, Regular with this line: > Courier, Italic, *=CourierItalic, Oblique, *, Regular > > This makes FM call the italics Courier font "CourierItalic". Well, that's both more clever and cheaper than buying Fontographer! :-) > 3. Open FM. Define the character tag to use CourierItalic > instead of Courier. > > Thanks very much for your help, Richard. There's no way I'd > have worked it out by myself. And once I had more of an idea > what to google for, I found a post by Shlomo Perets that was > very helpful too, so Shlomo, if you're reading this, thanks too. I'm glad my rather shaky memory provided enough hints to put you on the right track. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
