[Framers] Numbering conundrum
All, I hope that I can accurately describe the issue that I am encountering w/ an auto-numbered paragraph tag not being incremented properly. I have a book with some Front Matter files such as the Cover, the TOC, a Preface, and Copyright/Misc info. This book is the Admin Guide for a software application that has 5 separate components to it. In the current manual (the one that I have to overhaul), there are simply 5 separate chapters for each component, so each chapter is significantly large and unwieldy to navigate. I have to maintain a single manual still, but what I want to do is divide the book into five sections, one for each component, and then w/in each section, divide the currently lone component chapter into multiple chapters. So, something like this: All Front Matter files Section 1 Chapter 1 Chapter 2 Chapter 3 Section 2 Chapter 1 Chapter 2 Chapter 3 I am using Groups in my Framemaker book to visually indicate the different sections, where Group 1 is named Section 1, Group 2 is named Section 2, and so on. Each group contains the following files: A Section file Chapter 1 File Chapter 2 File Chapter 3 File In my Section file, I created two paragraph tags, which I imported into all my files in the book : SectionNumberBegin, with autonumbering set to S:Section
RE: numbering conundrum
Maybe Word's notoriously broken autonumbering is actually contagious! Maybe it's mutating like avian flu to jump species? It looks like I may have been more clever than I realized when I used a Word-to-FrameMaker conversion process that stripped all autonumber and bullet formatting from Word documents before importing the content into FrameMaker. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:36 PM To: Gillian Flato; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@frameusers.com Subject: RE: numbering conundrum I had a similar numbering problem yesterday with one file out of 18 in a book. (Must be the phase of the moon or something causing all these numbering problems at once, huh?) I'm using continued paragraph numbering in sub-chapter files. All of the files in one section of the book worked except one. No matter what I did, the first heading in that file stayed at 0.1 (heading text). It should have been 4.7 (heading text) Retagging did not work, nor did re-importing all of the formatting parameters into the file. Copying the text into a new doc also did not work.At that point, I assumed there was something hidden in the text that was causing the problem. The only solution I could find was to delete the first heading, manually reenter the text, and retag the heading. So, my question to the list is: What can cause a heading to become corrupt? I forgot to mention that these files are imported from Word. But remember, all of them worked except one. Thanks, Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
numbering conundrum
I had a similar numbering problem yesterday with one file out of 18 in a book. (Must be the phase of the moon or something causing all these numbering problems at once, huh?) I'm using continued paragraph numbering in sub-chapter files. All of the files in one section of the book worked except one. No matter what I did, the first heading in that file stayed at 0.1 (heading text). It should have been 4.7 (heading text) Retagging did not work, nor did re-importing all of the formatting parameters into the file. Copying the text into a new doc also did not work.At that point, I assumed there was something hidden in the text that was causing the problem. The only solution I could find was to delete the first heading, manually reenter the text, and retag the heading. So, my question to the list is: What can cause a heading to become corrupt? I forgot to mention that these files are imported from Word. But remember, all of them worked except one. Thanks, Diane -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:14 PM To: Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com; framers at frameusers.com; STC List Subject: RE: numbering conundrum I had this problem too. To solve it, I turned on all conditions and paragraph tags. I noticed that on the section that wasn't numbering correctly, there was a weird symbol. So I converted the heading to Body tag, saved the file, then re-applied the proper style. It fixed the problem. Thanks, Gillian Flato -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:23 PM To: framers at frameusers.com; STC List Subject: numbering conundrum I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section <$chapnum>\=<n+>\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 through 7-3 is working as expected. Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I swear I am working with Word numbering! thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___
numbering conundrum
Maybe Word's notoriously broken autonumbering is actually contagious! Maybe it's mutating like avian flu to jump species? It looks like I may have been more clever than I realized when I used a Word-to-FrameMaker conversion process that stripped all autonumber and bullet formatting from Word documents before importing the content into FrameMaker. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:36 PM To: Gillian Flato; Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com; framers at frameusers.com Subject: RE: numbering conundrum I had a similar numbering problem yesterday with one file out of 18 in a book. (Must be the phase of the moon or something causing all these numbering problems at once, huh?) I'm using continued paragraph numbering in sub-chapter files. All of the files in one section of the book worked except one. No matter what I did, the first heading in that file stayed at 0.1 (heading text). It should have been 4.7 (heading text) Retagging did not work, nor did re-importing all of the formatting parameters into the file. Copying the text into a new doc also did not work.At that point, I assumed there was something hidden in the text that was causing the problem. The only solution I could find was to delete the first heading, manually reenter the text, and retag the heading. So, my question to the list is: What can cause a heading to become corrupt? I forgot to mention that these files are imported from Word. But remember, all of them worked except one. Thanks, Diane
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert another one after the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have turned on all my conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before the incorrect 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other tags that are numbered with a series beginning with s. , If I insert a second SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. It's only after I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering starts. I am going nutso' with this. Do any SecID tags have overrides? I've had a similar problem once, and was able to solve it by reapplying the paragraph format. This is all in a single file? If multiple files are involved, check the Numbering properties in the bookfile. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the good Sec 7.3 and the bad Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I can't think of anything else to do. Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harro de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/2006 08:19 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@frameusers.com cc Subject RE: numbering conundrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert another one after the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have turned on all my conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before the incorrect 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other tags that are numbered with a series beginning with s. , If I insert a second SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. It's only after I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering starts. I am going nutso' with this. Do any SecID tags have overrides? I've had a similar problem once, and was able to solve it by reapplying the paragraph format. This is all in a single file? If multiple files are involved, check the Numbering properties in the bookfile. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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At 08:03 -0600 23/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert another one after the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have turned on all my conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before the incorrect 7.1 tag and none are present. If you want to send me a test file, I'll pick it over for you. Also, I don't have any other tags that are numbered with a series beginning with s. In your initial mail, you said that you were numbering on 'S'. 's' and 'S' are not the same numbering thread: numbering thread numbers are case-sensitive. (Maybe a slip of the finger, tho'). -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the good Sec 7.3 and the bad Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I can't think of anything else to do. One more suggestion: check your text flows. The numbering may restart because the text flows aren't connected, or because you're using two flows. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
numbering conundrum
Maybe you've got another tag using the S: series and that other tag resets the numbering, and a paragraph uses the other tag after section 7.3. To see if this is the problem, change the S: in your SecID to another letter that you're sure no other scheme uses. Cheers, Rebecca >>> 23/05/06 10:23:22 >>> I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section <$chapnum>\=\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 through 7-3 is working as expected. Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I swear I am working with Word numbering! thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rebecca.officer at alliedtelesyn.co.nz. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesyn.co.nz Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs.
numbering conundrum
Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert another one after the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have turned on all my conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before the incorrect 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other tags that are numbered with a series beginning with "s". , If I insert a second SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. It's only after I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering starts. I am going nutso' with this. Thanks! Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Fred Ridder" 05/22/2006 04:59 PM To Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com cc Subject RE: numbering conundrum What happens wne you insert another one after the second 7.1 (the incorrect one)? Do you get 7.2 or yet another 7.1? Make doubly, triply sure that the numbering formula used for the offending paragraph(s) uses the same series label--a capital S. Series labels are case- sentitive, and if you inadvertently start a new series (say a lower-case s instead of a capital) it will naturally and correctly start again at 7.1. -Fred Ridder >From: Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com >To: framers at frameusers.com, "STC List" >Subject: numbering conundrum >Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:23:22 -0600 > >I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. >It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section ><$chapnum>\=<n+>\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I >auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. >This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working >just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 >and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this >tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. >After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this >tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am >beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, >then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 >through 7-3 is working as expected. > >Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I >swear I am working with Word numbering! > >thanks, > >TVB > >Tammy Van Boening >Senior Technical Writer >Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. >303-328-4420 >tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > >Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert > another one after > the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have > turned on all my > conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before > the incorrect > 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other > tags that are > numbered with a series beginning with "s". , If I insert a second > SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. > It's only after > I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering > starts. I am going > nutso' with this. Do any SecID tags have overrides? I've had a similar problem once, and was able to solve it by reapplying the paragraph format. This is all in a single file? If multiple files are involved, check the Numbering properties in the bookfile. Harro de Jong
numbering conundrum
Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the "good" Sec 7.3 and the "bad" Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I can't think of anything else to do. Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Harro de Jong" Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/23/2006 08:19 AM To , cc Subject RE: numbering conundrum Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert > another one after > the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have > turned on all my > conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before > the incorrect > 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other > tags that are > numbered with a series beginning with "s". , If I insert a second > SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. > It's only after > I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering > starts. I am going > nutso' with this. Do any SecID tags have overrides? I've had a similar problem once, and was able to solve it by reapplying the paragraph format. This is all in a single file? If multiple files are involved, check the Numbering properties in the bookfile. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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At 08:03 -0600 23/5/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: >Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert another one after >the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have turned on all my >conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before the incorrect 7.1 >tag and none are present. If you want to send me a test file, I'll pick it over for you. >Also, I don't have any other tags that are numbered with a series beginning >with "s". In your initial mail, you said that you were numbering on 'S'. 's' and 'S' are not the same numbering thread: numbering thread numbers are case-sensitive. (Maybe a slip of the finger, tho'). -- Steve
numbering conundrum
Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the "good" Sec 7.3 and the "bad" Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I can't think of anything else to do. One more suggestion: check your text flows. The numbering may restart because the text flows aren't connected, or because you're using two flows. Harro de Jong
numbering conundrum
Harro, Steve, Lester, Darrel, Fred, Daniel, et. al, Thanks for all of the responses. The cut and paste method ultimately worked - a table seemed to be the offender, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why - I did not use any autonumbering in any of the table cells and I couldn't find any weird/buried tags in it - so, I deleted the table and recreated it from scratch and now I get Sec numbering reset as expected after the table. Like I said, there was no rhyme nor reason to it, but the solution worked. Again, thanks for all of the questions, input and offers to troubleshoot the doc. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com "Harro de Jong" Sent by: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/23/2006 08:32 AM To cc Subject RE: numbering conundrum Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the "good" Sec 7.3 and the "bad" Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I can't think of anything else to do. One more suggestion: check your text flows. The numbering may restart because the text flows aren't connected, or because you're using two flows. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Have you tried MIFfing the file and study the part there after 7.3? Maybe you could find something in there. But this is why I am in favor of nested numbering, like: <$volnum><$chapnum>< >< ><r+>, etc. (note the space between the brackets). Say you have a five level numbering, starting with the volume number, you can reset all counters at the volume level (the volume heading paragraph tag) -- except the chapter number: <$volnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>, that is if you expect any numbering (e.g. numbered lists) before the chapter number (highly unlikely). In the chapter heading you also reset the counters: <$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0> You would then for e.g. a first level list set the numbering to: <A+>< =0>< =0> (resetting the second and third level list counters) For the second level: < ><n+>< =0> (resetting the third level list counter) for the third level: < >< ><r+>. Now let's say that you want to change from your S: counter to this system. The order is not necessarily dependent on the level (unless you are using the full numbering system in the levels beneath the SecID), but I suggest that the SecID would be the first counter after the <$chapnum>. But want in to add it to the nested system without going to all the list numbering level tags. Then you just add the fourth counter and always leave the others empty when you use it. It could look like this in order to get the 7.1, 7.2, etc.: <$chapnum>< >< >< ><n+>. If this is a thrid level item, the only thing you would have to do in order to get this to renumber is to add the fourth counter to the volume and chapter level tags: <$volnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0> <$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>. Of course it woud be a better procedure to set it to a "proper" level and do the necessary changes in the other levels, but this would work. Clear as mud? Bodvar On 5/23/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Nope, no overrides (thanks for prompting me to check this) and it's all in > a single file. I have just back-tracked and cut out everything between the > "good" Sec 7.3 and the "bad" Sec 7.1, then inserted a Sec ID tag after > the good Sec 7.3 and voila, I get a Sec 7.4, so it's something in this > stretch of documentation, altho' for the life of me, I can't figure it > out. Anyway, in between the 7.3 and 7.4, I am pasting, one paragraph at a > time, the cut material and seeing when I get the 7.4 to flip back to 7.1 - > then I know which paragraph, for whatever reason, is causing me fits. I > can't think of anything else to do. > > Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Senior Technical Writer > Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. > 303-328-4420 > tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com > > > > "Harro de Jong" > Sent by: > framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=jeppesen.com at lists.frameusers.com > 05/23/2006 08:19 AM > > To > , > cc > > Subject > RE: numbering conundrum > > > > > > > Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > > > Good question - I forgot to mention this. When I insert > > another one after > > the second 7.1 (the incorrect one), I get a 7.2. I have > > turned on all my > > conditions and have looked for any special/weird tag before > > the incorrect > > 7.1 tag and none are present. Also, I don't have any other > > tags that are > > numbered with a series beginning with "s". , If I insert a second > > SecID after the correct 7.1 or 7.2, the numbering is just fine. > > It's only after > > I insert this secID tag after the 7.3 that renumbering > > starts. I am going > > nutso' with this. > > > Do any SecID tags have overrides? I've had a similar problem once, and > was able to solve it by reapplying the paragraph format. > > This is all in a single file? If multiple files are involved, check the > Numbering properties in the bookfile. > > Harro de Jong > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40jeppesen.com > > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
RE: numbering conundrum
I had this problem too. To solve it, I turned on all conditions and paragraph tags. I noticed that on the section that wasn't numbering correctly, there was a weird symbol. So I converted the heading to Body tag, saved the file, then re-applied the proper style. It fixed the problem. Thanks, Gillian Flato -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:23 PM To: framers@frameusers.com; STC List Subject: numbering conundrum I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section $chapnum\=n+\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 through 7-3 is working as expected. Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I swear I am working with Word numbering! thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
numbering conundrum
I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section <$chapnum>\=\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 through 7-3 is working as expected. Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I swear I am working with Word numbering! thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
numbering conundrum
I had this problem too. To solve it, I turned on all conditions and paragraph tags. I noticed that on the section that wasn't numbering correctly, there was a weird symbol. So I converted the heading to Body tag, saved the file, then re-applied the proper style. It fixed the problem. Thanks, Gillian Flato -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:23 PM To: framers at frameusers.com; STC List Subject: numbering conundrum I have created a tag named SecID to identify sections in my book chapters. It is set to autonumber according to the following format: S:Section <$chapnum>\=<n+>\sm. I have this tag set to start at the top of page and I auto-apply a Custom Master Page to the page that uses this Section ID. This page is named SectionDivider. For sections 1 through 3, it is working just beautifully - I get a page with Section 7-1, a page with section 7-2 and page with Section 7-3. Now, all of a sudden, when I go to apply this tag to a page, the numbering is being reset to 7-1 and it won't change. After counting beautifully to 7-3, all I get no matter where I apply this tag after Section 7-3 is Section 7-1. I don't get 7-4, 7-5, etc. and I am beyond stumped. If I had messed with the paragraph numbering to restart, then ALL the tags should be appearing as Section 7-1, but like I said, 7-1 through 7-3 is working as expected. Help - I am stumped and I don't know how to begin to troubleshoot this. I swear I am working with Word numbering! thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as gflato at nanometrics.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited.