RE: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-10 Thread menchin_elaine
After three calls to tech support, the issue is resolved.  The trial
version of Adobe FrameMaker 8 is not supported on Windows 2000. This is
noted in small print in the system requirements - my bad!  Although I
was misled by the first two tech support representatives I spoke with -
you certainly can run Frame 8 trial on the same system with Frame 7.

 

 

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 I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version
of 
 Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but
during the 
 install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have
one since 
 this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted
first 
 suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing
happened), 
 then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first
removing 
 Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our
documentation 
 work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's
conditional 
 text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring
true - do I 
 really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
 
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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-10 Thread menchin_ela...@emc.com
After three calls to tech support, the issue is resolved.  The trial
version of Adobe FrameMaker 8 is not supported on Windows 2000. This is
noted in small print in the system requirements - my bad!  Although I
was misled by the first two tech support representatives I spoke with -
you certainly can run Frame 8 trial on the same system with Frame 7.





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From: menchin_elaine at emc.com 

> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version
of 
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but
during the 
> install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have
one since 
> this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted
first 
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing
happened), 
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first
removing 
> Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our
documentation 
> work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's
conditional 
> text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring
true - do I 
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
> 
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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread menchin_elaine
I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?

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Re: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread d . mossfritch
I ran into the same problem (on two different computers) with the GoLive 9 
trial. I have also noted the same problem recently with a couple other Adobe 
applications. I suspect (yet cannot prove) the problem happens with Adobe's new 
serial number dialog box where you select to add a serial number or trial.

Best,

 Denise L. Moss-Fritch

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 I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of 
 Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but during the 
 install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have one since 
 this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted first 
 suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened), 
 then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing 
 Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our documentation 
 work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional 
 text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring true - do I 
 really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
 
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Re: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread Scott Prentice

You definitely don't need to uninstall FM7 to install the FM8 trial.

In the dialog that asks for the serial number *should* be an option to 
choose the 30 Day Trial which doesn't need a serial number. It's right 
below the serial number fields .. run it again and see if you missed it.


...scott



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?



  

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Re: problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread Peter Gold
I can't speak definitively to the problem with running in trial mode.

Regarding what's compatible - you can keep multiple _different_
releases of FM installed without conflicts. For example, FM 4, 5,
5.56, 6.x, and 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, and 8.0, are sufficiently different to
work independently. Each must be installed in its own directory, not
over existing installations, not even one with a very similar release
number (like 7.0 and 7.1.) You are bound by the license agreements'
requirements regarding discontinuing the use of releases you've
upgraded. Over the years, some of these requirements have changed.

In this light, the support tech may have given you bogus information.
To my knowledge, it's not been necessary to uninstall a existing
release to install a new and different one. However, if the technician
meant try uninstalling your current release before installing the
trial, then install your old release again, that's perhaps a possible
solution. Perhaps someone on this list has experience with this
strategy and can comment.

I'd suggest contacting tech support again, and insist on talking with
a supervisor, to determine exactly how to proceed. Insist on official
Adobe-verified advice for a solution, not it should work, or I
think so. If the supervisor can't answer for certain, insist on
speaking with the highest-level manager.

You may want to remind your contacts that it's in Adobe's best
interest to make the trial experience as smooth as possible.

I'm not sure what the possible consequences might be of uninstalling
the earlier 7.x release before installing the 8.0 trial, and
reinstalling the 7.x. Uninstalling leaves some user files in the
installation tree which shouldn't be problematic when reinstalling 7.x
to the same location.

However, installing 8.0 may prompt you to choose whether to install
Acrobat, and warn that it will uninstall existing Acrobat. If and when
you uninstall the trial, you may need to straighten out the Acrobat
installation. Be sure to ask the supervisor about effects on Acrobat
if you try uninstalling 7 before installing the 8 trial.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On 9/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
 Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
 install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
 this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
 suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
 then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
 Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
 work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
 text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
 really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?

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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread menchin_ela...@emc.com
I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?




problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread d.mossfri...@comcast.net
I ran into the same problem (on two different computers) with the GoLive 9 
trial. I have also noted the same problem recently with a couple other Adobe 
applications. I suspect (yet cannot prove) the problem happens with Adobe's new 
serial number dialog box where you select to add a serial number or trial.

Best,

 Denise L. Moss-Fritch

-- Original message -- 
From: menchin_ela...@emc.com 

> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of 
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website. It downloads fine but during the 
> install process I am asked for a serial number. I don't have one since 
> this is a trial version. The Adobe support person I contacted first 
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened), 
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing 
> Frame 7 from my system. This isn't an option; we do our documentation 
> work in Frame 7 here. I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional 
> text features to see if we want to upgrade. Does this ring true - do I 
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8? 
> 
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problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread Scott Prentice
You definitely don't need to uninstall FM7 to install the FM8 trial.

In the dialog that asks for the serial number *should* be an option to 
choose the "30 Day Trial" which doesn't need a serial number. It's right 
below the serial number fields .. run it again and see if you missed it.

...scott



menchin_elaine at emc.com wrote:
> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
> install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
> this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
> Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
> work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
> text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?
>
>
>
>   



problem install framemaker 8 trial version

2007-09-07 Thread Peter Gold
I can't speak definitively to the problem with running in trial mode.

Regarding what's compatible - you can keep multiple _different_
releases of FM installed without conflicts. For example, FM 4, 5,
5.56, 6.x, and 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, and 8.0, are sufficiently different to
work independently. Each must be installed in its own directory, not
over existing installations, not even one with a very similar release
number (like 7.0 and 7.1.) You are bound by the license agreements'
requirements regarding discontinuing the use of releases you've
upgraded. Over the years, some of these requirements have changed.

In this light, the support tech may have given you bogus information.
To my knowledge, it's not been necessary to uninstall a existing
release to install a new and different one. However, if the technician
meant "try uninstalling your current release before installing the
trial, then install your old release again," that's perhaps a possible
solution. Perhaps someone on this list has experience with this
strategy and can comment.

I'd suggest contacting tech support again, and insist on talking with
a supervisor, to determine exactly how to proceed. Insist on official
Adobe-verified advice for a solution, not "it should work," or "I
think so." If the supervisor can't answer for certain, insist on
speaking with the highest-level manager.

You may want to remind your contacts that it's in Adobe's best
interest to make the trial experience as smooth as possible.

I'm not sure what the possible consequences might be of uninstalling
the earlier 7.x release before installing the 8.0 trial, and
reinstalling the 7.x. Uninstalling leaves some user files in the
installation tree which shouldn't be problematic when reinstalling 7.x
to the same location.

However, installing 8.0 may prompt you to choose whether to install
Acrobat, and warn that it will uninstall existing Acrobat. If and when
you uninstall the trial, you may need to straighten out the Acrobat
installation. Be sure to ask the supervisor about effects on Acrobat
if you try uninstalling 7 before installing the 8 trial.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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KnowHow ProServices



On 9/7/07, menchin_elaine at emc.com  wrote:
> I'm attempting to download and install the free trial version of
> Framemaker 8 from the Adobe website.  It downloads fine but during the
> install process I am asked for a serial number.  I don't have one since
> this is a trial version.  The Adobe support person I contacted first
> suggested re-downloading the sw (didn't help, the same thing happened),
> then said that I cannot run the trial of Frame 8 without first removing
> Frame 7 from my system.  This isn't an option; we do our documentation
> work in Frame 7 here.  I just wanted to evaluate Frame 8's conditional
> text features to see if we want to upgrade.  Does this ring true - do I
> really need to remove Frame 7 to evaluate Frame 8?
>