Re: [Frameworks] Texts on sound design in animation

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Chris and Bernard,
I just wanted to add one reference to this topic. It concerns the initial
work of the American composer Tod Dockstader
<https://soundartarchive.net/ARTISTS-details.php?recordID=133>. He created
the sound design for animations as *Mr. Magoo* and *Gerald Mc Boing* at the
beginning of his career. I don't know if there's an article about it
though. I'd like to mention that John Stehura used his music (the theme
"Tango" <https://dockstader.bandcamp.com/track/quatermass-tango> from the
*Quatermass* LP) for the marvelous film *Cibernetik 5.3*.
Best,
Albert


On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 7:04 PM Bernard Roddy  wrote:

> Hi Christopher:
>
> Thank you for initiating this discussion topic. Albert Alcoz has provided
> a document that is available without download. I am looking past the
> introduction of Oskar Fischinger, where Rudolph Pfenninger's research is
> taken up: "Eschewing aesthetic discourse entirely, Pfenninger focused on
> the technological development of a new form of acoustic writing [. . . ]."
> This kind of essay is really part of a history of technology. The question,
> however, seems to ask how sound is being thought within contemporary
> practice. That's going to be a little trickier to come up with,
> particularly if you are searching in the spirit of Fischinger (in other
> words, not looking at cartoons). For me this kind of interest led me to
> sound poetics as one can sample at ubu.com, and to the artistic
> exploration of sound that even resists being identified with music.
> Particularly if you are attracted to the idea of scoring a soundtrack,
> Pierre Schaeffer's In Search of a Concrete Music is pretty cool. It's as if
> the whole approach to experiment in film now takes up the use of pots and
> pans in order to unfold a unique aural experience that is neither verbal
> nor musical.
>
> Of course "sound design' is already a term from a rather more mainstream
> current of academic to professional study.
>
> Bernie
>
> - - - - -
>
> *On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Chris G  <https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks>> wrote:
> *>>* 
> *>* Hi all,
> *>>* I am looking for titles of literature on sound design in animation 
> whether
> *>* they're articles, essays or books. It would be helpful if they were
> *>* accessible in the free world or usual academic libraries' digital
> *>* collections.
> *>>* Best,
> *>* Christopher*
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Re: [Frameworks] Texts on sound design in animation

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Chris,
Here are two recommendations:

1.
"Tones from out of Nowhere": Rudolph Pfenninger and the Archaeology of
Synethetic Sound by Thomas Y Levin:
https://www.academia.edu/24931236/_Tones_from_out_of_Nowhere_Rudolph_Pfenninger_and_the_Archaeology_of_Synethetic_Sound

2.
"Experimental Animation: An Illustrated Anthology" by Robert Russett and Cecile
Starr:
https://www.amazon.es/Experimental-Animation-Illustrated-Robert-Russett/dp/0442271956

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:43 PM Michael Betancourt <
hinterland.mov...@gmail.com> wrote:

> my book, "Synchronization and Title Sequences" addresses abstract
> animation.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Michael Betancourt, Ph.D
> https://michaelbetancourt.com
> cell 305.562.9192
> https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Betancourt/e/B01H3QILT0/
> Sent from my phone
>
> On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Chris G  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for titles of literature on sound design in animation whether
> they're articles, essays or books. It would be helpful if they were
> accessible in the free world or usual academic libraries' digital
> collections.
>
> Best,
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Re: [Frameworks] Making clear leader

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Nicole,

You just need some bleach to do it. Put the film in a bucket full of bleach
and you will see the results in a few seconds.

For example, Jennifer West used to do it for her films:
http://www.jweststudio.com/
Steven Woloshen has also done it often: https://scratchatopia.wordpress.com/

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[Frameworks] "There Is No Way". Soy Cámara. CCCB

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

A few months ago there were some emails in Frameworks concerning "the art
of walking". There were dozens of responses on films and videographic works.

With curator Alexandra Laudo we have done a 26-minute essay video that
analyzes some considerations of walking through artistic actions and
audiovisual works, some of them cited in this mailing list.

The video was produced for the project Soy Cámara by the CCCB of Barcelona. It
contains english subtitles. Here is the link:
https://www.cccb.org/en/multimedia/videos/there-is-no-way/234129



*Walking is a form of knowledge, a way of exploring the possibilities and
limits of the environment through the body. In the process of humanization,
bipedalism symbolically marked the birth of the human species and walking
has been an essential activity in the development and life of people ever
since. But urbanization and the privatization of natural space make it
difficult to walk freely, as do the imperatives of performance,
optimization and productivity. “There Is No Way” reviews some of the
anthropological, social and philosophical meanings of walking, and
highlights the resistance to this practice today. The visual narration
pieces together video and film references and, in particular, the visual
documentation of artworks that see the act of walking as an artistic
practice.*
All the best,
Albert

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Re: [Frameworks] Liberty!

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Around the theme of liberty here is a quite literal recommendation:
*Monuments in Love * (1992)


It is a huge art project by Antoni Miralda around the marriage of the
Statue of Liberty (New York) and Christopher Columbus monument (Barcelona).

The video was done by Jordi Torrent.

Best,
Albert


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 9:36 PM Ignacio Tamarit 
wrote:

> Hola Jodie!
>
> Freiheit (1966) by George Lucas
> Gamelan (1981) by Claudio Caldini
> Ere erera baleibu izik subua aruaren (1970) by José Antonio Sistiaga
> 21 - 87 (1964) by Arthur Lipsett
>
>
> El lun., 6 jul. 2020 a las 16:10, Bernard Roddy ()
> escribió:
>
>> John, I think you should make that clown with the plate in his forehead
>> into a profile cycle for Facebook. I have ever seen your work. The metal
>> bucket, the syringe, the fuse, all these things I have been inclined to
>> draw in a technical and realistic way, and limited to a single sheet, end
>> of story.
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM John Knecht  wrote:
>>
>>> Jodie,  Maybe my film "Free-Dumb-Rains" would work.  //
>>> johnknechtart.com/category/single-channel/page/2/
>>>
>>> John Knecht
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:34 AM Jodie  wrote:
>>>
 Hello Dear Frameworkers,

 I am writing on behalf of my class (Curating and Microcinema: Make Your
 Own Culture). The students are preparing a selection of films and videos
 centered around the theme of LIBERTY. We seek pieces that are related to
 LIBERTY in traditional and lyrical senses (from finding liberty to taking
 liberties to the concept of a free-moving camera). Any suggestions of works
 by others or yourself are most welcome.

 With a light beam,

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Re: [Frameworks] Films or videos with one person playing all the parts

[Albert Alcoz]

*Copy Shop* by Virgil Widrich?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0jeZabxSAg

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 8:17 PM jimmyschaus1 . 
wrote:

> New Bobby Conn music video for his song "Disaster" is in this style (and
> is quite the earworm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4mWuvQszCU
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:20 AM Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza <
> jorgelore...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think Miranda July has done some of that quite often.  Maybe the early
>> Joanie 4 Jackie stuff has that dynamic going on.
>>
>> --
>> *De:* FrameWorks  en nombre de
>> alena williams 
>> *Enviado:* miércoles, 24 de junio de 2020 10:48 p. m.
>> *Para:* Experimental Film Discussion List > >
>> *Asunto:* Re: [Frameworks] Films or videos with one person playing all
>> the parts
>>
>> these are my favorites:
>>
>> https://melhus.de/das-zauberglas-the-magic-glass/
>>
>> https://melhus.de/again-and-again/
>>
>> On 24. Jun 2020, at 01:15, kris  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> BJOERN MELHUS makes these films where he often uses an original score or
>> dialog and re enacts all the speaking roles.
>>
>> https://melhus.de
>>
>> https://melhus.de/im-not-the-enemy/
>>
>> best, kris
>>
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>> On 23.06.20 23:21, Joel Schlemowitz wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> A question relating to students creating videos with limited access to
>>
>> other people due to the COVID-19 situation. . . . Looking for examples
>>
>> of films or videos with one person playing all the parts.
>>
>>
>> There are video works by ASM Kobayashi and in Maya Deren in "Meshes of
>>
>> the Afternoon" there are multiple versions of the protagonist created
>>
>> through editing. But does anyone know of other interesting works where
>>
>> someone playing all the parts has a dialogue with "themselves," so to
>> speak?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>> ~~
>>
>> https://www.joelschlemowitz.com 
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental films on photography

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you all for this amazing list of films.

As we see this subject is huge because many filmmakers have used
photography or still images to create their films.

I didn't know Gary Beydler's film used a mirror. Never had a chance to see
it. Thank you Dicky and Mark for the explanation. At first, I also had in
mind *One Year Performance* by Tehching Hsie
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPLoLoPmzbI>, yes. But that's another
subject.

Yes, thanks for remembering the names of Takashi Ito and Toshio Matsumato
to all of you. I could discover those amazing films through this program at
the Cinema Project
<https://cinemaproject.org/archive/screenings/2013/spring/picture-in-picture>
.

Ignasi, Elena and Peter thank you for the lists. Arthur Lipsett, of course!
*Now!* I remember another film.

It's great to know that moment concerning *True Story* by Robert Frank.
Thanks Eric. In fact, the first idea was to ask just for photographs
destroyed in experimental films.

Some other titles came to my mind recently, after reading your mails:

– Dozens of works by Ken Jacobs where he uses stereoscopic photography
– Paolo Gioli's *L’assassino nudo* about Muybridge
– Thom Andersen's *Eadweard Muybridge, Zoopraxographer*
*–** Photographic Phantoms *by Ernie Gehr?
– *Now!* by Santiago Álvarez
*– Worst Case Scenario* by John Smith (this is another case, though)
– *The Sun is Always Setting Somewhere Else* by Lisa Oppenheim

All the best,
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[Frameworks] Experimental films on photography

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello all,

I was making a list of experimental film practices on photography and I was
wondering if you could suggest more titles.

At first I wanted to focus just on movies where photographs are deleted
(burned, destroyed) or denied but I only know *(nostalgia)* for Hollis
Frampton and the project *Found Monochromes* by David Batchelor (slides).
Does anyone know other films where the main purpose is the destruction or
the invisibility of photographs?

On the other hand I have started a list of films made from photographs.
There are dozens of films (some of them animations) where the object of
analysis are still images, from filmed Polaroids to appropriation of
advertising images from magazines or the accumulation of digital images
found on the internet:

*Transformation by Holding Time* by Paul de Nooijer
*Pasadena Freeway Stills* and *Hand Held Day* by Gary Beydler
*Production Stills* by Morgan Fisher
*Frank Film* by Frank Mouris
*Boy Meets Girl* by Eugènia Balcells
*Wall *by Takashi Ito
*Photodiary *by Takashi Ito
*Clandestine Porn Film* by Augustin Gimel
*DIES IRAE* by Jean Gabriel Périot
*The World as Will and Representation* de Roy Arden

Do others come to mind?

Thank you,
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Response Cinema Contact

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Margaret,

I don't know if there's a list out there but you can find a lot of
references in the Exhibition Guide issue of Incite!
<http://www.incite-online.net/issuefour.html> and the list of 50 labs
<http://www.filmlabs.org/index.php/labs/>. The majority of them make film
screenings.

Here in Barcelona we have this project named CRANC
<http://cranc-projeccions.blogspot.com/> where we show works by
international artists and experimental filmmakers.

Best,
Albert Alcoz


On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 5:08 PM Margaret Rorison <
margaret.b.rori...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Friends!
>
> I am helping a distributor with a list of contacts/microcinemas and I am
> wondering who the contact is for ERC now that Scott Stark has moved.
>
> Is there a comprehensive list of microcinemas anywhere on the internet?
>
> thank you!
> Meg
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Re: [Frameworks] Cameraless film in the university

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you very much Lindsay to share your personal experience teaching
cameraless film.

Scott, I think there are dozens of actual filmmakers working in these area.
I recommend you to investigate some of the names you can read here:

https://monoskop.org/images/d/dd/Schlicht_Esther_Hollein_Max_eds_Zelluloid_Camera_Less_Film_Film_ohne_Kamera.pdf

http://www.filmlabs.org/docs/recipes_for_disaster_hill.pdf

Best,
Albert

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 8:37 AM lindsay mcintyre 
wrote:

> At Emily Carr University of Art + Design I teach an Analogue Practices
> course as well as an Advanced Analogue course, both of which include
> extensive amounts of cameraless or handmade film. Students complete a 1-3
> minute Film Destroy Project and incorporate cameraless techniques into
> their own shot footage for a second longer assignment as well. It becomes a
> large part of their toolkit for this particular mode of media making (which
> is entirely non-commercial in focus, although there are films that include
> a great deal of cameraless techniques that have had commercial success). In
> a 12 or 13 week semester their first month is in cameraless. This gets them
> familiar with all the infrastructure and concepts - steenbecks, projectors,
> splicers, winders, optical sound, frames per second, animation, sprockets,
> etc - but also gets them source material for their next assignment -
> optical printing. It's a pretty popular course and students love working
> this way. It is also sometimes included in foundation courses (art).
>
> Lindsay
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:19 AM Scott Hammen 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve been following these posts hoping that there would, sooner or later,
>> be some mention of actual films.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps the “old masters” like Man Ray, Len Lye, and Brakhage don’t need
>> special mention, but, before closing the thread, it would be great to see
>> some recommendations of a few cameraless films worth trying to see.
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions ?
>>
>>
>> Scott Hammen
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 16:08, Ignacio Tamarit 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Albert!
>>>
>>> I do know that there was a class of cameraless animation at FUC
>>> (Fundación Universidad del Cine) for the people that study the animation
>>> degree, but I think that is over.  Also at FUC, at the Técnicas
>>> Audiovisuales subject, which is the one where students can have a insight
>>> in experimental cinema, there is a coverage of found footage and cameraless
>>> films. For two years I was invited to this classes to do a lecture on
>>> Cameraless cinema and project films on 16 mm.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Ignacio
>>>
>>> El jue., 13 feb. 2020 a las 11:00, Albert Alcoz ()
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for these positive answers.
>>>>
>>>> Today Frameworks has given me a joy.
>>>>
>>>> It's great to see cameraless film is an important issue in the
>>>> university.
>>>>
>>>> I will use all these thoughts for the academic paper.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Albert
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:56 AM Carolina Cappa <
>>>> carolinaca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hola Alberto,
>>>>>
>>>>> At the University of Buenos Aires we regularly include a 16 mm
>>>>> cameraless film workshop as part of the Audiovisual Technology biannual
>>>>> subject. We've been doing it since 2015 and in crowded classrooms as this
>>>>> university is public and free. I don't actually know if students finally
>>>>> get to use it in the audiovisual industry though I've seen some
>>>>> products using other animation techniques derived from this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saludos
>>>>> Carolina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El jue., 13 feb. 2020 a las 3:43, Ruth Hayes ()
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At The Evergreen State College we teach direct animation and
>>>>>> cameraless film in our foundation program and in some other classes
>>>>>> depending on the subject. As with others responding, I’ve found it a 
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> way to bring fine arts students in to animation and media production. 
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> Devon Damonte teaches a summer course here, Visual Music on 16mm and 35mm
>>>>>> Film that

Re: [Frameworks] Cameraless film in the university

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you very much for these positive answers.

Today Frameworks has given me a joy.

It's great to see cameraless film is an important issue in the university.

I will use all these thoughts for the academic paper.

Best,
Albert

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:56 AM Carolina Cappa 
wrote:

> Hola Alberto,
>
> At the University of Buenos Aires we regularly include a 16 mm cameraless
> film workshop as part of the Audiovisual Technology biannual subject. We've
> been doing it since 2015 and in crowded classrooms as this university is
> public and free. I don't actually know if students finally get to use it in
> the audiovisual industry though I've seen some products using other
> animation techniques derived from this.
>
> Saludos
> Carolina
>
>
> El jue., 13 feb. 2020 a las 3:43, Ruth Hayes ()
> escribió:
>
>> At The Evergreen State College we teach direct animation and cameraless
>> film in our foundation program and in some other classes depending on the
>> subject. As with others responding, I’ve found it a great way to bring fine
>> arts students in to animation and media production. Also, Devon Damonte
>> teaches a summer course here, Visual Music on 16mm and 35mm Film that
>> involves all sorts of cameraless techniques including making photograms and
>> hand-processing. Students appreciate the materiality of working with film
>> and photo processes, especially if all they’ve done before is digital. It’s
>> also a way to get them into thinking about forms beyond the narrative and
>> single channel presentation.
>>
>> Ruth
>>
>> http://www.randommotion.com-
>>
>> sites.evergreen.edu/ruthhayes/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 3:58 AM, Albert Alcoz  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does anyone know if cameraless film is a common subject at university?
>>
>> I am investigating the role of cameraless film in the studies of Fine
>> Arts and Media Studies.
>>
>> Most of cameraless film workshops are organized by art centers,
>> alternative spaces or private film schools but i wonder the role it has
>> within the university.
>>
>> Is it taught as a technique that can be applied in the audiovisual
>> industry (such as video clips, advertisements, fiction animated films,
>> etc.) or as a line to develop artistic projects or personal film
>> developments?
>>
>> Would be great to know personal experiences concerning teaching this
>> animation technique related to experimental cinema.
>>
>> Best,
>> Albert
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[Frameworks] Cameraless film in the university

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Does anyone know if cameraless film is a common subject at university?

I am investigating the role of cameraless film in the studies of Fine Arts
and Media Studies.

Most of cameraless film workshops are organized by art centers, alternative
spaces or private film schools but i wonder the role it has within the
university.

Is it taught as a technique that can be applied in the audiovisual industry
(such as video clips, advertisements, fiction animated films, etc.) or as a
line to develop artistic projects or personal film developments?

Would be great to know personal experiences concerning teaching this
animation technique related to experimental cinema.

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Re: [Frameworks] Super8 film in Taiwan and expanded cinema in East Asia

[Albert Alcoz]

Hi Esperanza,

Why don't you try to get in touch with the people who runs the EXiS film
festival in Seoul? https://ex-is.org/

I suppose you have already talked with Julian Ross about your research:
http://www.rossjulian.com/

Does Takashi Ito involved in the creation of expanded cinema practices?
http://www.imageforum.co.jp/ito/index.html

Best,
Albert

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:14 PM Esperanza Collado <
esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Steve. Tony Wu is a Taiwanese artist I presume. A quick search on
> the internet shows websites for a whale photographer, so I guess that's a
> different Tony Wu. Do you have the contact of Crystal Lipzin? Cheers
>
> El vie., 31 ene. 2020 a las 9:47, Stephen Anker ()
> escribió:
>
>> Contact Janis Crystal Lipzin, who might be in touch with Tony Wu.
>> Tony may no longer be active, but he made some very strong S-8mm films in
>> the '90s.
>> Steve Anker
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 4:34 AM Esperanza Collado <
>> esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Does any of you know were to find Super8 film in Taipei?
>>>
>>> I’m researching expanded cinema in Pacific Asia with a Fellowship, and
>>> I’d like to meet people involved in this lineage of practices as well as
>>> East Asian or East Asian based experimental filmmakers who are on
>>> Frameworks. From next week I’ll be based in Taiwan and traveling to Japan,
>>> South Korea and Hong Kong, also have plans to travel to Thailand and
>>> wherever this adventure leads me.
>>>
>>> I already have a few significant contacts, but I’ll be very happy to
>>> know/meet everyone involved :)
>>>
>>> All the best,
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Re: [Frameworks] Books on Handmade Films

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Tetsuya,

Here's another good reference, the catalogue of the *Zelluloid *exhibition
at the Schirn Kunsthalle in Frankfurt:
https://monoskop.org/images/d/dd/Schlicht_Esther_Hollein_Max_eds_Zelluloid_Camera_Less_Film_Film_ohne_Kamera.pdf


Best,
Albert

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:14 AM Gregory Zinman  wrote:

> Filmmaker Steven Woloshen’s books are also excellent for artists and
> students:
> https://scratchatopia.wordpress.com/
>
> https://re-voir.com/shop/en/steven-woloshen/990-scratch-crackle-pop-the-whole-grains-approach-to-making-films-without-a-camera.html
> https://scratchatopia.wordpress.com/recipes-for-reconstruction-my-1st-book/
>
> Best,
>
> Greg
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> *Making Images Move: Handmade Cinema and the Other Arts *(University of
> California Press, 2020)
> *We Are in Open Circuits: Writings by Nam June Paik* (The MIT Press, 2019)
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Anna Briggs  wrote:
>
> Dear Tetsuya,
>
> I recommend Helen Hill's 'Recipes for Disaster: A Handcrafted Film
> Cookbooklet'. Here is a pdf copy:
> http://www.filmlabs.org/docs/recipes_for_disaster_hill.pdf. You can watch
> some of her films on Vimeo at: https://vimeo.com/helenhill. 'Madame
> Winger Makes a Film' (https://vimeo.com/197137362) is wonderful.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Anna Briggs
> https://www.mipops.org/aboutus/
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> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 21:10, Maruyama Tetsuya 
> wrote:
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>> Dear all.
>>
>> I am planning a workshop on super 8 direct filmmaking in Port-au-Prince,
>> Haiti, and need some reference on books that talk about handmade films
>> without camera.
>> It doesn't have to be technical since I would like a broad range of ideas
>> and notes, and ideally they can be pdf, so I can share with the fellow
>> participants.
>>
>> I saw a post by Gregory Zinman on his new book, and became curious….
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Tetsuya Maruyama
>> Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
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Re: [Frameworks] meditative films?

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Kate, some videos of Joan Leandre, Toni Serra and Xavier Hurtado deal with
meditative ideas.
Here you can watch some of them:
https://www.retroyou.org/archive_2015-1994.html
https://vimeo.com/barzakh
http://www.desorg.org/autors/hurtado/

I also thought on videos like *Let Me ASMR You* by the Clint Enns. It is no
longer online, though.
http://www.visionaryfilm.net/2015/12/let-me-asmr-you-clint-enns.html

Best,
Albert



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> My gratitude to all of you who have responded to my query both on- and
> off-list.  I appreciate all the suggestions for works to check out -- lots
> of great stuff to look at and think about as I move forward with this
> workshop!
>
> And Dave, thank you for offering your critiques of my request and your
> suggestions for how I might approach my class differently.
>
> My best,
> Kate
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:29 PM kate lain  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Frameworkers.  I’m teaching a multi-part film/video-making workshop
>> for high schoolers.  We’re exploring rituals of care, different self-care
>> practices, calming techniques, etc., and the students will be making a
>> collaborative collage film/video related to all that.  I’d love to show
>> them some examples of moving image works for inspiration (or send them
>> links to things they can check out on their own).
>>
>> Do you have any recommendations for short films, videos, animations,
>> gifs, video art, etc. in the experimental/art vein that are that are
>> viewable online that might fit with this?  (I'm not looking for things like
>> straight documentaries on self-care or anything -- I'm thinking about works
>> that are more poetic, more in the arena of video art or experimental film.)
>>  Note that these students are brand new to experimental film, so I’m not
>> looking for particularly challenging works that could be frustrating to
>> them.  Instead, I’m looking for pieces that are slower, poetic, perhaps
>> repetitive, meditative that someone might be able to relax into.  A couple
>> of films that come to mind are Amy Halpern’s “Invocation” (except there's
>> no digital version, dang it, and I can only show digital at this school)
>> and James Whitney’s “Lapis”.  But I hope to find more works that, like
>> "Invocation," work with representational imagery—and works that, in
>> particular, use documentation/documentary-style moving images since the
>> students will recording visuals and audio at the school site where we’re
>> working (though we may do some basic animation as well).
>>
>> I’m particularly interested in works by artists of color and queer
>> artists, but I’m open to other suggestions as well.  Thank you in advance
>> for any recommendations!
>>
>> Best,
>> Kate Lain
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Re: [Frameworks] Original soundtrack recordings of Avant-Garde films

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ms.com>>"
> > mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 1:44 PM
> > To: "Experimental Film Discussion List  > <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>"
> > mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Original soundtrack recordings of
> > Avant-Garde films
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Many (of the amazing) soundtracks to Derek Jarman's films have been
> > released on various formats:
> >
> > Throbbing Gristle "In the Shadow of the
> > Sun":
> https://www.discogs.com/Throbbing-Gristle-In-The-Shadow-Of-The-Sun/master/10294
> >
> > Coil "The Angelic
> > Conversation":
> https://www.discogs.com/Coil-The-Angelic-Conversation/master/21410
> >
> > Simon Fisher Turner/Derek Jarman
> > "Blue": https://www.discogs.com/Derek-Jarman-Blue/master/21552we
> released on our experimental music label emitter micro two soundtracks for
> movies by film maker John Bock:
> >
> >
> > https://emittermicro.com/em-011-1/
> > https://emittermicro.com/em-011-2/
> >
> > what comes to my mind is that ECM released a godard "sound track" to the
> > movie Nouvelle Vague with the complete film sound (everything but the
> > image)
> >
> https://www.ecmrecords.com/catalogue/143038752245/nouvelle-vague-complete-soundtrack-jean-luc-godard
> >
> > best kris
> >
> >
> > Simon Fisher Turner
> > "Caravaggio":
> https://www.discogs.com/Simon-Fisher-Turner-Caravaggio-1610-Sound-Sketches-For-Michele-Of-The-Shadows/master/246163
> > (and several other Jarman/Turner soundtracks are released as well)
> >
> > Sub Rosa released a boxset of Luc Ferrari's soundtrack works not so
> > long ago (among others for Piotr Kamler's
> > "Chronopolis"):
> https://www.subrosa.net/en/catalogue/early-electronic-music/luc-ferrari-complete-music-for-films-1960-1984.html
> >
> > Peter Tscherkassky's "Outer Space" is featured on a Finnish
> > compilation:
> https://www.discogs.com/Various-Avantometric-Attachments-2002/release/75764
> >
> > Angus MacLise's soundtrack to "The Invasion of Thunderbolt
> > Pagoda":
> https://www.discogs.com/Angus-MacLise-The-Invasion-Of-Thunderbolt-Pagoda/release/440194
> >
> > And there is an Angus MacLise compilation featuring music from
> > "Chumlum" among
> > others: https://www.discogs.com/Angus-MacLise-Untitled/release/311090
> >
> > There was also a funny, unofficial archival release series of "Musique
> > Concrète Soundtracks to Experimental Short Films" some years back:
> >
> > https://www.discogs.com/label/13172-New-England-Electric-Music-Company
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Christian
> >
> >
> > Den ons. 4. dec. 2019 kl. 19.26 skrev Albert Alcoz
> > mailto:albertal...@gmail.com>>:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm researching soundtracks of Avant-Garde films that have been
> > published on Vinyl, cassette or CD. It is not easy to find many cases
> > because generally the soundtracks are not original.
> >
> > Does anyone know other cases besides those mentioned here?
> >
> > /Asparagus/ (1979) Suzan Pitt. Music: Richard Teitelbaum
> >
> http://sanitymuffin.bigcartel.com/product/asparagus-original-soundtrack-recording
> >
> > /L'Ange/ (1980) Patrick Bokanoski. Music: Michèle Bokanowski
> > https://tracelabel.bandcamp.com/album/lange
> >
> > /Decasia/ (2002) Bill Morrison. Music: Michael Gordon
> > https://michaelgordonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/decasia
> >
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[Frameworks] Original soundtrack recordings of Avant-Garde films

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

I'm researching soundtracks of Avant-Garde films that have been published
on Vinyl, cassette or CD. It is not easy to find many cases because
generally the soundtracks are not original.

Does anyone know other cases besides those mentioned here?

*Asparagus* (1979) Suzan Pitt. Music: Richard Teitelbaum
http://sanitymuffin.bigcartel.com/product/asparagus-original-soundtrack-recording

*L'Ange* (1980) Patrick Bokanoski. Music: Michèle Bokanowski
https://tracelabel.bandcamp.com/album/lange

*Decasia* (2002) Bill Morrison. Music: Michael Gordon
https://michaelgordonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/decasia

All the best,
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[Frameworks] Toni Serra (Abu Ali) (1960-2019)

[Albert Alcoz]

Sad to announce Toni Serra (Abu Ali) passed away on Thursday 21st of
November.
https://www.cccb.org/en/participants/file/toni-serra-abu-ali/6004
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about places with descriptive voice-over

[Albert Alcoz]

*The Black Tower
 *by John Smith
(a voice-over explaining an ironic tale about darkness)
*Slow Action * by Ben Rivers (a
voice-over about a dystopian science fiction point of view)
*Thames Film * (2013) by William Raban
(a voice-over about the river Thames from an historic perspective)

In fact it looks like the departure point (voice-over films that are a
response to specific places) is really wide.
Any documentary about a places or architecture would be useful. One example
*Reconversao*  by Thom Andersen about Eduardo
Souto Moura...

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 5:56 PM Heath Iverson 
wrote:

> Also John Gianvito's Profit Motive and the Whispering Wind.
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 11:53 AM Adam Hyman  wrote:
>
>> Perhaps Patrick Keillor’s films, “London”, “Robinson in Space” and
>> “Robinson in Ruins" would be of interest.  Not sure if they are concrete
>> enough for you, but definitely lots of voice over as responses to specific
>> places.
>>
>>
>> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of
>> Niurgun Bootur 
>> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" 
>> Date: Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 6:18 AM
>> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List "
>> 
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Films about places with descriptive voice-over
>>
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>
>> A friend of mine is working on a short film about the architectural
>> aspects of a neighborhood in Malagueira, Portugal and the gap between its
>> architect's utopian vision and the present reality. He would like to work
>> with a voice-over to describe something imaginary, like simple everyday
>> situations, all unseen and imagined, as if sensed and commented upon by the
>> architect himself.
>>
>> I would be grateful if you could you suggest voice-over films that are a
>> response to specific places or have a way of telling that describes a place
>> or a situation in concrete terms. For example, John Smith's *The Girl
>> Chewing Gum*.
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>> Niurgun
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Animation over live action

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello again Chris,

Sorry I think I missunderstood the concept "live action" as "live cinema".

Maybe Jeff Scher and Jeff Keen, for example, can be considered filmmakers
who mix animation with acting trough rotoscopy or other techniques.

https://vimeo.com/user623597

https://shop.bfi.org.uk/gazwrx-the-films-of-jeff-keen-dvd-bluray.html#.Xa2ibegzaM8


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:50 PM Albert Alcoz  wrote:

> Hello Chris,
>
> Some artists that mixes live action with animation are:
>
> ATZUR: https://atzur.info/
>
> Martha Colburn: https://marthacolburn.com/
>
> Jodie Mack: https://www.jodiemack.com/
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 5:00 AM Christopher Ball 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I made one:  It is on youtube:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRiGzHKpUaY
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VaM9hPGI_o
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:32 PM Chris Rodriguez <
>> rodriguezchris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone!
>>>
>>> I’m planning on making an experimental student film that mixes live
>>> action with animation and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
>>> that we could use as reference/ inspiration. Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Chris Rodriguez
>>> rodriguezchris...@gmail.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Animation over live action

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Chris,

Some artists that mixes live action with animation are:

ATZUR: https://atzur.info/

Martha Colburn: https://marthacolburn.com/

Jodie Mack: https://www.jodiemack.com/

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 5:00 AM Christopher Ball  wrote:

> Yes, I made one:  It is on youtube:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRiGzHKpUaY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VaM9hPGI_o
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:32 PM Chris Rodriguez <
> rodriguezchris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I’m planning on making an experimental student film that mixes live
>> action with animation and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
>> that we could use as reference/ inspiration. Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Chris Rodriguez
>> rodriguezchris...@gmail.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Filmmakers who use(d) visual scores or other forms of notation

[Albert Alcoz]

Dear Alix,

Concerning this field the major recommendation would be the PhD
dissertation written by Michelle Adrianna Puetz.
"Variable Area: Hearing and Seeing Sound in Structural Cinema, 1966–1978"
is the title of an awesome study you can find online as a pdf.

In 2018 the (S8) film festival organized an exhibition curated by Gloria
Vilches and Elena Duque named *El cine en papel *about this same idea.
There were drawing pieces and filmstrips by Lis Rhodes, Peter Kubelka, Rose
Lowder, etc..

Other names that comes to mind: Bill Brand, Ladislav Galeta, Heinz Emigholz.
I'm not sure about it but maybe some of the filmmakers behind the Workshop
of Film Form  were working with
visual scores too.

Albert

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> Dear Alix,
> I think there are many. Of course Paul Sharits, as can be seen in the
> documentary on him by François Miron.
> I have images from scores by Peter Kubelka, Peter Rose, Martin Arnold,
> Joost Rekveld and even myself.
> There are also scores made a posteriori for example, by Huckleberry Lain
> of Arnulf Rainer.
> - Pip Chodorov
>
>
> > On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:48 AM, Alix Blevins  wrote:
> > I'm working on a project and looking for references of filmmakers whose
> works employ visual scores and/or other graphic notation in making films
> (e.g. Kurt Kren, Rose Lowder).
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Re: [Frameworks] Research about "Essential Cinema" ? Anthology Film Archives

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you for your answers Pip, Joel and Mark.

I'll try to get the book *The Essential Cinema*, first published by the New
York University Press in 1975 and then by the Anthology Film Archives
around 1989.


Someone gave me the email of P. Adams Sitney so i will try to write him to
know the initial ideas behind the project Essential Cinema and the
procedures to establish and consolidate it.

Best,
Albert

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> When I did some research in the Brakhage papers at CU Boulder, I came
> across a bunch of documents pertaining to the Essential Cinema
> selection/committee process, which were fascinating.  Stan Brakhage was
> initially involved in the committee, but ended up leaving it, apparently.
> There were lists of films and spaces for people to vote for the film's
> inclusion, etc.  If you can get access to some of that material (maybe P.
> Adams still has them?) it would be well worth a look.
>
> Mark T
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:44 AM Joel Schlemowitz 
> wrote:
>
>> There is a book, titled "Essential Cinema" published by Anthology with
>> essays on some of the films in the collection. The introduction tells the
>> history of the project.
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[Frameworks] Research about "Essential Cinema" – Anthology Film Archives

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Frameworkers,

I'd like to write an article about the Essential Cinema of the Anthology
Film Archives and I have some questions that maybe some of you know.

Reading the information on the website (
http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/about/essential-cinema) looks like "the
project was never completed".
Someone know the ideas behind the completed Essential Cinema Repertory?
What ideas were there to select future new acquisitions?

Can you recommend some books, articles or videos about the Essential Cinema?
I suppose there are some documents released by the journal Film Culture but
i'm not sure about it.

Any ideas about this topic will be totally grateful.

Thank you,
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[Frameworks] New book on experimental cinema in Spanish

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello all,

The UOC publishing house has just released a book about avant-garde cinema
and experimental film in Spanish named *Radicales libres
<http://www.editorialuoc.cat/radicales-libres>*. It is a sort of
introduction to the subject with a prologue and 50 movie analysis, as with
all books in the collection. I wrote it considering a chronological order
so the book begins in 1921 with Walter Ruttmann (the series *Opus*) and
ends in 2012 with Tacita Dean (*FILM*). The publication is intended for
university students of who begin to discover this other cinema but it is
also designed to expand the bibliography of the international experimental
cinema in Spanish which, unfortunately, remains scarce. Thanks and sorry
for the autopromotional email.

"Transcurriendo en paralelo a las rupturas estéticas de las vanguardias
artísticas de principios del siglo XX, el cine experimental investiga el
potencial del medio cinematográfico a través de sus posibilidades formales
y su trasfondo crítico. Estas prácticas fílmicas interrogan las imágenes y
los sonidos tecnológicos vindicando un espíritu autodidacta, narraciones
atípicas, formulaciones abstractas y temporalidades inusitadas. Radicales
libres analiza cincuenta obras fundamentales que constatan el desarrollo de
la experimentación desde la década de los años 20 hasta la actualidad. De
la sinestesia de la música visual a la transgresión del surrealismo; del
vigor autobiográfico del cine lírico al reciclaje matérico del found
footage; del minimalismo del structural film a la irradiación del expanded
cinema; del discurso metafílmico del cine-ensayo a la pausa del documental
contemplativo y del elogio fotoquímico del celuloide al cine de artistas en
el cubo blanco. Libertad y radicalidad fundamentadas de modo cinemático."

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Re: [Frameworks] suggestions for experimental road movies and/or experimental films about automobility

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Bryan,

Here's another suggestion of an experimental road movie, in this case with
electronic music.
The White Room was created by the musical group The KLF in 1991:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG3A0jebU0A

"The White Room a road movie, about the KLF's search for the mystical White
Room that would enable them to be released from their contract with
Eternity."

Best,
Albert

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 9:13 PM Mani Mazinani 
wrote:

> Seated Figures (1988)
> Michael Snow
> 16mm colour 42 minutes
>
>
>
> I didn't see this on the previous lists...
>
> Best!,
> Mani
>
> On Tue., Jul. 23, 2019, 15:00 mary billyou  wrote:
>
>> also,
>> Martha Rosler has some super 8 films at EAI that were produced when she
>> was in San Diego (hence the car):
>>
>> Flowerfields
>> Secrets from the Street
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> mary
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 6:50 AM Bryan Konefsky  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all, I am in the process of building a program that looks at
>>> automobility and road movies from an experimental perspective... wondering
>>> if anyone has suggestions about artists' films that study this topic...
>>> Titles and links would be preferable and I am open to both historic and
>>> current works - if you have made something along these lines I would be
>>> happy to have the opportunity to view such films/videos as well.
>>>
>>> thanks everyone
>>> Bryan Konefsky
>>> president, Basement Films
>>> founder/director, Experiments in Cinema
>>>
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>>> that spark that kindled their souls. The rest, "the many, all too many" as
>>> Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can be bought
>>> with money, cheap glory, or social position.
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Re: [Frameworks] suggestions for experimental road movies and/or experimental films about automobility

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Some ideas:

*Kustom Kar Kommandos* (1965) by Kenneth Anger

*Harmonica* (1971) by Larry Gottheim

*Moment* (1972) by Bill Brand 
*Fresh Kill* (1972) by Gordon Matta-Clark

*Pasadena Freeway Stills* (1974) by Gary Beydler

*States of America
* (1975)
by Bette Gordon and James Benning

*Seeing in the Rain
* (1981)
by Chris Gallagher

*Hringurinn* (1985) by Fridrik Thor Fridriksson 
*Undivided Attention* (1987) by Chris Gallagher

*Mohave Cruising *(2000) by Lluis Escartín 
*Cinnamon* (2006) by Kevin Jerome Everson

*Make It new John* (2009) by Duncan Campbell

*Get Out of the Car* (2010) by Thom Andersen

*Dromosphäre* (2010)  by Thorsten Fleisch

*Chevelle * (2012) by Kevin Jerome
Everson 
*Death Songs & Car Bombs* (2013) Brendan & Jeremy Smith

*The Quiet Car* (2013) by Ernie Gehr 
*C-LR: Coorow-Latham Road for Those Who Don’t Have the Time *(2013) by
Blake Williams

*Small Roads* (2017) by James Benning



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> Hello all, I am in the process of building a program that looks at
> automobility and road movies from an experimental perspective... wondering
> if anyone has suggestions about artists' films that study this topic...
> Titles and links would be preferable and I am open to both historic and
> current works - if you have made something along these lines I would be
> happy to have the opportunity to view such films/videos as well.
>
> thanks everyone
> Bryan Konefsky
> president, Basement Films
> founder/director, Experiments in Cinema
>
> Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, for
> that spark that kindled their souls. The rest, "the many, all too many" as
> Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can be bought
> with money, cheap glory, or social position.
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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for references addressing/recalling insomnia

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Neus Miró curated an exhibition around this topic in 2013 at the Fundació
Joan Miró of Barcelona.
In fact *Insomnia *was the title she used. Hollis Frampton, Lis Rhodes and
Ben Rivers were some of the filmmakers included.
https://www.fmirobcn.org/es/exposiciones/4703/insomnia

Here's the link of the catalogue:
https://fmirobcn.org/miroshop/en/exhibition-catalogues/257-insomnia.html

Best,
Albert


On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 4:52 PM Jessica Arseneau 
wrote:

> Great! Thank you so much for the great tips!
> Looking forward to watch and read those.
>
> Best greetings,
>
> Jessica
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 5:35 AM Marc Couroux  wrote:
>
>> Sorry...it's called Nothing: A Portrait of Insomnia.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:33 PM Marc Couroux  wrote:
>>
>>> Read Blake Butler's INSOMNIA.
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 1:36 PM Jessica Arseneau 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Frameworkers,


 I am currently working on the theme of insomnia/chronic sleeplessness
 for a thesis, as well as for a forthcoming video and performance work. I
 would be curious and grateful to know if you can recall
 films/videos/contemporary art where there's something related to insomnia
 as a mental or cultural state (a scene, a spark triggering a plot, as a
 topic, etc.).

 Here is my current list:

 Ingmar Bergman, *Hour of the Wolf*
 Danillo Correale,

 *No More Sleep No MoreSofia Coppola, Lost in TranslationSean Ellis,
 Cash Back*
 Jim Jarmusch,
 *Only Lovers Left Alive*Iñigo Manglano-Ovalle

 *, Sonambulo II (Blue)Christopher Nolan, InsomniaMartin Scorsese, Taxis
 Driver*
 Andrei Tarkovsky, *Solaris *(because there is no distinction between
 day and night, and the quote by Dr. Snaut: "Mankind has lost the ability to
 sleep")
 Wim Wenders,

 * Paris, Texas*
 Exhibition *Insomnia *in art space Bonniers Konsthall (Katarina
 Löfström, *Downhill*, Carsten Höller, *Two Roaming Beds*, Rafaël
 Rozendaal’s *15 websites*, Kate Cooper’s animations)


 Many thanks!
 Best wishes,


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>>> xenaudial (b/c) 
>>> The Occulture 
>>> WKWYLF (vimeo) 
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental essay films and one other question

[Albert Alcoz]

Dear Péter,

We could say "experimental essay film" is a controversial label. It looks
like you want to avoid the documentary side of the film construction.
I'm not exposing it in the proper manner but maybe "essay film" could be
read from different points of views: orthodox and heterodox or conventional
and unusual.
The question would be: what differentiates an "experimental essay film" and
a "non experimental film essay"?
Interviews with talking heads, voice over, archive footage, chronological
segmentation, modes of production or distribution, budget?

Anyway, here are some names that could be related to that concept after
2000 until today:

Gustav Deutsch: *Film Ist 7-12 *(2002), *Film Ist a Girl & a Gun* (2009)
Thom Andersen: *Los Angeles Plays Itself* (2003), *The Thoughts That Once
We Had* (2015)
Jean-Luc Godard: *The Image Book* (2016)
Chris Marker: *Chats Perchés* (2004)
Harun Farocki: dozens of works.
Hito Steyerl: *How Not to Be Seen: A Fucking Didactic Educational .MOV File*
(2013)
Pip Chodorov: *Free Radicals* (2011)
(...)

Some other good references:
https://monoskop.org/Experimental_film
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/254037
http://www.othercinema.com/otherzine/2940-2/

Best,
Albert

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:18 AM Péter Lichter  wrote:

>
> Dear All,
>
> We have 2 quick questions for a longer essay on experimental cinema:
>
> 1. Bori's question: Can you recommend films or artists in the field of
> experimental essay film, after 2000 until today?
>
> 2. Péter's question: can you recommend books or articles on the
> institutional system of the contemporary experimental cinema? I know the
> books of Scott Macdonald and Malte Hagener on the institutions of
> classical/post-war avant-garde film, but I do not know anything about the
> contemporary situation.
>
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[Frameworks] "All the Dark Screens" (25 min. essay video. English subtitles)

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Some week ago I shared a video essay titled "All the Dark Screens"
<http://www.cccb.org/en/multimedia/videos/all-the-dark-screens/231229>.
Finally,
here it is with english subtitles:
http://www.cccb.org/en/multimedia/videos/all-the-dark-screens/231229

I think it can be quite attractive for the people of Frameworks because it
deals with *darkness* as a concept through dozens of filmic and
videographic fragments that, surely, you will recognize.

"In a society dominated by the power of screens and images, audiovisual
darkness can be a strategy of resistance. We tend to associate screens with
light, but darkness has been consubstantial with audiovisual creation since
the dawn of the cinema. *All the dark screen**s* presents a fragmentary
genealogy of the use and presence of opacity and the absence of image in
cinematographic and video creation, and reflects on the poetic and
political power of these forms of audiovisual iconoclasm, and on their
relation with our ways of seeing and not seeing."

Screenplay, direction and editing: Albert Alcoz and Alexandra Laudo
Voiceover: Alexandra Laudo
Languages: Spanish, English
Subtitles: Spanish, English
Duration: 25 min.

Hope you enjoy it.

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Re: [Frameworks] Thank you!

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello again,

There is a book named *Filmic Mapping* by scholar Fred Truniger with a
chapter named "The Pedestrian's Gaze".

Besides *München-Berlin Wanderung* by Oskar Fischinger he analyzes films
like *Hans im Glüeck* by Peter Liechti ("a road movie for
pedestrians") and *Lost
Book Found* by Jem Cohen.
https://www.peterliechti.ch/page.php?2,0,13,0
http://www.vdb.org/titles/lost-book-found

Albert

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:16 PM Scott MacDonald 
wrote:

> *Frameworkers!*
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> *Thanks to all who have brought my attention to films focused on walking.*
>
> *Much appreciated!*
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Re: [Frameworks] walking

[Albert Alcoz]

*Walkabout *(1971) Nicolas Roeg

This text by Hamish Fulton has some interesting film references:
https://frieze.com/article/life-film-hamish-fulton

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 7:32 AM Anderwald + Grond 
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> Oh, My Foot Hurts, 1990, and I’m Going, 1973,(https://vimeo.com/192276716),
> both by Józef Robakowski
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Re: [Frameworks] Labyrinths and Avant-Garde Cinema or Experimental Media

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you very much for all for the valuable information i have received
concerning labyrinths and experimental film.

I will check all those links with time in order to write an essay about the
ideas behind this connection.

All the best,
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On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:13 PM Daniel A. Swarthnas 
wrote:

> Claes Söderquist - Labyrinth (2013)
> Excerpt: https://vimeo.com/112068727
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 at 8:50 PM
> *From:* "Nicole Baker" 
> *To:* "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Labyrinths and Avant-Garde Cinema or
> Experimental Media
> Thanks! I'll check it out
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 3:48 PM Dinorah  wrote:
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>> Hello Nicole,
>>
>> The project blog is at elusivelandscape.blogspot.com and my website is
>> at solislandmediaworks.com. you can find press on the piece on the Press
>> page. thank you for your interest in my work.
>>
>> Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez
>> Multimedia Artist
>>
>> El abr. 28, 2019, a la(s) 6:34 p. m., Seth Pimlott <
>> seth.piml...@network.rca.ac.uk> escribió:
>>
>>
>> Slight tangent but William English’s recent film ‘it’s my own invention’
>> is a brilliant film about getting lost in a kind of labyrinth of the mind:
>>
>> https://lux.org.uk/work/its-my-own-invention
>>
>> :)
>>
>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 11:01, Albert Alcoz  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm doing a research about the presence of the labyrinth on films and
>>> videos
>>>
>>> I was wondering if someone can give me some references wether they are
>>> movies or books or articles or exhibitions.
>>>
>>> There are some really known works like the ending of *The Shinning*
>>> (1980) or *Labyrinth* (1986) but i'm more interested on artist
>>> practices.
>>>
>>> Right now i have managed to list this titles:
>>>
>>> *LABYRINTH* (1962) Jan Lenica
>>> *Electronic Labyrinth: THX 1138 4EB* (1967) George Lucas
>>> *In the Labyrinth* (1967) Colin Low, Roman Kroitor, Hugh O'Connor
>>> (project at Expo 67)
>>> *Reading of an Extract from Labyrinths by J.L. Borges* (1970) David
>>> Lamelas
>>> *Labyrinthe* (1979) Veronique Mori
>>> *Meikyu-tan* (1975) Terayama Shūji
>>> *Withershings* (1995) Gary Hill (installlation)
>>> *Labyrinth* (2012) Yves-Marie Mah
>>>
>>> Any suggestion will be welcomed.
>>>
>>> All the best,
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[Frameworks] Labyrinths and Avant-Garde Cinema or Experimental Media

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello all,

I'm doing a research about the presence of the labyrinth on films and videos

I was wondering if someone can give me some references wether they are
movies or books or articles or exhibitions.

There are some really known works like the ending of *The Shinning* (1980)
or *Labyrinth* (1986) but i'm more interested on artist practices.

Right now i have managed to list this titles:

*LABYRINTH* (1962) Jan Lenica
*Electronic Labyrinth: THX 1138 4EB* (1967) George Lucas
*In the Labyrinth* (1967) Colin Low, Roman Kroitor, Hugh O'Connor (project
at Expo 67)
*Reading of an Extract from Labyrinths by J.L. Borges* (1970) David Lamelas
*Labyrinthe* (1979) Veronique Mori
*Meikyu-tan* (1975) Terayama Shūji
*Withershings* (1995) Gary Hill (installlation)
*Labyrinth* (2012) Yves-Marie Mah

Any suggestion will be welcomed.

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Re: [Frameworks] Drone vision and violence in experimental film/video art

[Albert Alcoz]

*The Name is not the Thing named* by Deborah Stratman
http://www.pythagorasfilm.com/thename.html

*Anaconda Targets* by Dominc Angerame
https://lightcone.org/en/film-4284-anaconda-targets

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:57 AM Cinema Project 
wrote:

> Meridian by Calum Walter
>
>
> Berlinale description:
> *Meridian* follows the last unit in a fleet of autonomous machines sent
> to deliver an emergency vaccine. Through a robot’s agnostic eye, the film
> looks at how human dramas are inscribed onto the inanimate, searching for
> possible parallels between automation and purgatory, depression and
> malfunction.
> The film is inspired by a real event that occurred in Washington, D.C. on
> 17 July 2017, where an automated security robot from the company
> Knightscope was found floating in a fountain at the building it patrolled.
> It had plunged into the water while on a routine patrol, spurring
> speculation about whether the machine had chosen to end its life or if this
> was just a glitch in an otherwise reliable new technology. Perhaps more
> interesting than the fate of the machine was the desire to see its death
> within a human context.
>
> On Feb 24, 2019, at 19:08, Elena Duque  wrote:
>
> Samouni Road, by Stefano Savona, deals with an attack over Gaza with a
> drone footage recreation (and also with some very powerful animations).
>
> El sáb., 23 feb. 2019 20:57, Alex Lake 
> escribió:
>
>> Ross Meckfessel’s The Air of the Earth in Your Lungs has some pretty
>> interesting hobby-drone footage in it, def worth checking out.
>>
>> http://rossmeckfessel.com/Air%20of%20the%20Earth.html
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:33 AM Robert Harris 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Re: aerial surveillance, etc…
>>> Much of Harun Farocki’s work,   *War at a Distance; Images of the World
>>> and the Inscription of War*
>>> https://www.harunfarocki.de/films.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Hugo Martin Alexander Ljungbaeck <
>>> ljung...@uwm.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am currently working on a research project that I am hoping will
>>> result in a curated program and/or essay. I am looking for experimental
>>> film and video art work that engages with, counters, or tries to reimagine
>>> relationships between UAVs, military violence and vision, the war on
>>> terror, aerial surveillance, hobby-drones, etc.
>>>
>>> If you have any recommendations, please feel free to reply-all or
>>> respond off-list.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestions!
>>> Hugo
>>>
>>>
>>> Hugo Ljungbäck
>>> Undergraduate Research Fellow
>>> Department of English/Film Studies
>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Expanded cinema and experimental music

[Albert Alcoz]

Hi Esperanza,

Somehow, Holly Rogers and Michelle Puetz have written different articles
about this issues you mention:
https://goldsmiths.academia.edu/HollyRogers
http://michellepuetz.com/

Best,
Albert

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:35 PM Esperanza Collado <
esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fantastic, thank you John!
>
> El sáb., 23 feb. 2019 a las 12:29, John Sundholm ()
> escribió:
>
>> hi esperanza,
>>
>>
>> one possible name in order to expand the geography of names could be
>> petri kuljuntausta from finland. musician, has written a phd on the history
>> of finnish experimental music, runs a sound art gallery in helsinki and has
>> taken part in different expanded cinema events as a performer (with sami
>> van ingen, for example).
>>
>>
>> best,
>>
>>
>> john
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>> *Skickat:* den 23 februari 2019 11:45:34
>> *Till:* Experimental Film Discussion List
>> *Ämne:* Re: [Frameworks] Expanded cinema and experimental music
>>
>> Hi there and thank you for your recommendations. I hope more people come
>> out with ideas!
>>
>> Tetsuya: Érik is a terrific lecturer as well as a great writer-researcher
>> and artist whose work I totally admire, but I'm afraid experimental music
>> is not his subject. In fact, Érik is helping us find people too :-)
>>
>> Cindy: cheers, I attended the congress at the Tate and, as far as I know,
>> Steven Ball was the only one to approach the topic we're looking for
>> directly. If I'm forgetting any other relevant intervention, please let me
>> know! I have the book too, and I checked that closely in search for other
>> experts... Yes, of course, expanded cinema is a term coined in the US
>> (Vanderbeek, right?). You may like to know the French Lettrists already
>> used similar terms in the late forties and early fifties, as well as the
>> great Spanish "cinemist" José Val del Omar.
>>
>> Steve: sure, Sally is actually one of the first artists/curators I
>> suggested and even though Godart -who is also a friend of Sally- was
>> looking for academics and scholars, I insisted. Sally edited a book
>> recently on digital art and I think her work is shifting slightly towards
>> digital media. She is taking some holidays at the moment but I think she
>> has been contacted for this already. Thanks, I didn't know the Perpetual
>> Motion fanzine was still available for free download!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> El vie., 22 feb. 2019 a las 8:13, Steve Polta ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Dear Esperanza.
>>>
>>> I'm sure you know about her work as an artist and likely you also know
>>> that Sally Golding (Australia/UK) is an authority on this genre and knows
>>> the historical and contemporary work inside and out. Your friend can
>>> obviously contact her through her website—https://sallygolding.com/.
>>> San Francisco Cinematheque also published an essay by her which you (or
>>> your friend or anyone with internet access) can download for free here
>>> .
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Polta
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:18 AM Esperanza Collado <
>>> esperanzacolla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dear all,

 A colleague is considering organising a seminar on the subject of
 expanded cinema and experimental music. He is trying to find academics,
 scholars, writers and experts in the critical/historical field rather than
 artists to deliver lectures or talks as part of this seminar. Could you
 please recommend relevant names expert in this field *who are not
 American* (or are not based in America) please?

 I'm thinking of Steven Ball and (even though it may not be exactly
 their field of research) François Bovier/Adeena Mey, but who else is there
 beyond these? And if any of you think could fit here please let me know.


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Re: [Frameworks] avant-garde films about prostitution and pornography

[Albert Alcoz]

Here you can find some good information about this topic.

The *Xperimental Eros* compilation released by Other Cinema:
http://www.othercinemadvd.com/xe.html

Julia Ostertag and Peggy Ahwesh's films could be useful.

Best,
Albert

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:34 AM mstark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> naomi uman’s ‘Removed’
>
> On 10 Jan 2019, at 09:54, Dinorah  wrote:
>
> Hello Dorottya,
>
> I have a film that is made from hand-colored, hand-scratched porn dating
> from the 1930’s to the 1970’s, featuring Scopitone nudies, stag films &
> other genres of porn. Additionally the work has been mentioned in some
> academic writings I can also share with you. Write to me off list if
> interested.
>
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez
> Multimedia Artist
>
> On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:46 AM, Dorottya Szalay 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Frameworkers,
>
> I am looking for avant-garde films *made by women* that tackle the topic
> of prostitution (sex workers). Also searching for films that focus on
> pornography. Any suggestions?
>
> Thank you!
> Best,
> Dorottya
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello John,

Thank you very much for your suggestion. The other day  I watched The Black
Tower for second time and i felt it is exactly the sort if film i was
looking for.

That's for sure you don't remember but we met some years ago in Italy at
the Lucca Film festival and later we exchanged some words at the Punto de
Vista in Pamplona, the year you came with Dad's Stick.

I'm explaining this just to ask you if you have a transcription of the
voices over of the The Black Tower. The idea is to include some seconds for
a video essay for the Soy Cámara program of the B.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeHI7FwAuM=2s

If you don't have it i will try to translate some seconds in order to use
it to explain different ideas about darkness and cinema.

All the best,
Albert

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:13 AM John Smith  wrote:

> My film ‘The Black Tower’ (1985-87)
> http://johnsmithfilms.com/selected-works/the-black-tower/
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about the clock

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you for those new suggestions.

Roger Beebe, maybe what is happening nowadays is that those artists
interested on "that kind of rigid formal investigation", around the clock,
easy to link with structural film, have changed their mediums. This is
something Tyler Maxin has already noted. Instead of cinema or video they
use some other digital tools for their projects. I'm thinking this
realizing what's behind a piece like *Zero Noon* (2013) by Rafael
Lozano-Hammer: "a digital clock that shows the current time according to
eccentric metrics". (http://www.lozano-hemmer.com/zero_noon.php) or *The
Pirate Cinema* (2012-214) by Nicolas Maigret (
http://peripheriques.free.fr/blog/index.php?/works/2012-the-pirate-cinema-/)

Best,
Albert

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:01 AM Peter Snowdon  wrote:

> Boris Lehman, La chute des heures (1990). Nothing but clocks for 8
> minutes:-)
>
> Envoyé de mon iPad
>
> Le 27 oct. 2018 à 14:07, Albert Alcoz  a écrit :
>
> Hello frameworkers,
>
>
>
> I’m trying to write a short article in spanish about different notions of
> time concerning contemporary experimental film and video. Since the concept
> of “time related to cinema” is almost impossible to delimit I have decided
> to concentrate just about the clock.
>
>
>
> So, i’m searching films and videos where the clock is an important
> object/issue for the development of the piece. By now I have just found
> appropiation works as *60 Seconds* (2002) by Christoph Girardet and *The
> Clock* (2012) by Christian Marclay but i’m sure there are dozens.
>
>
>
> There’s a brilliant film by Chris Gallagher named *Time Being* (2009)
> that could also be useful to theorize some ideas but I need some more
> titles.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thank you all,
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Albert
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about the clock

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello again,

Thank you all for the answers. The winner is *Bleu Shut* (1971) by Robert
Nelson, with four different votes!

The suggestions will be really useful although i see it is rather difficult
to mention contemporary works. I have found some others created around the
seventies, like those filmed by Guy Sherwin: *Candle & Clock (London 1977)*
and *Clock & Train (Leaving Birmingham 1978). *

Best,
Albert

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:17 AM Daniel A. Swarthnas 
wrote:

> Hi Albert!
>
> I guess you have been thinking about Bleu Shut (1971) by Robert Nelson. In
> "classic" narrative cinema you will find many films of course,
> like Smultronstället/Wild Strawbarries (1957) by Ingmar Bergman and Victor
> Sjöströms Körkarlen(1921)
>
>
> Daniel A. Swarthnas
> Cinema Parenthèse
> swarth...@mail.com
> +46(0)705778603
>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 1:07 PM
> *From:* "Albert Alcoz" 
> *To:* "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Films about the clock
>
> Hello frameworkers,
>
>
>
> I’m trying to write a short article in spanish about different notions of
> time concerning contemporary experimental film and video. Since the concept
> of “time related to cinema” is almost impossible to delimit I have decided
> to concentrate just about the clock.
>
>
>
> So, i’m searching films and videos where the clock is an important
> object/issue for the development of the piece. By now I have just found
> appropiation works as *60 Seconds* (2002) by Christoph Girardet and *The
> Clock* (2012) by Christian Marclay but i’m sure there are dozens.
>
>
>
> There’s a brilliant film by Chris Gallagher named *Time Being* (2009)
> that could also be useful to theorize some ideas but I need some more
> titles.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Thank you all,
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Albert
>
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Re: [Frameworks] 'Grotesque' works

[Albert Alcoz]

Try to watch some of this actions documented by Kurt Kren, for example:
http://www.index-dvd.at/en/program/001/index.html

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 9:54 PM Ken Eisenstein  wrote:

>
> https://www.artforum.com/print/199307/paul-mccarthy-s-and-mike-kelley-s-heidi-33867
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 3:08 PM Max Wildenhaus 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>> First time sending an email out here, but I have appreciated everything I
>> have seen shared around in the past.
>>
>> I am currently researching and shooting for a project that I would
>> classify under the grotesque, and was looking for some works to watch to
>> see what all is out there.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all help that can be provided!
>>
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[Frameworks] Films about the clock

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello frameworkers,



I’m trying to write a short article in spanish about different notions of
time concerning contemporary experimental film and video. Since the concept
of “time related to cinema” is almost impossible to delimit I have decided
to concentrate just about the clock.



So, i’m searching films and videos where the clock is an important
object/issue for the development of the piece. By now I have just found
appropiation works as *60 Seconds* (2002) by Christoph Girardet and *The
Clock* (2012) by Christian Marclay but i’m sure there are dozens.



There’s a brilliant film by Chris Gallagher named *Time Being* (2009) that
could also be useful to theorize some ideas but I need some more titles.



Any suggestions?



Thank you all,



Best,

Albert

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Re: [Frameworks] articles, books, reflections on filmmaking cooperatives?

[Albert Alcoz]

Mitbegründer der Hamburger Filmmacher Cooperative
http://www.kino-im-sprengel.de/download/Programmheft_Hamburg.pdf

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:48 PM Albert Alcoz  wrote:

> The Workshop of the Film Form (1970-1977). Early Film Work From Poland
> (DVD+booklet)
> https://www.eai.org/titles/the-workshop-of-the-film-form-1970-1977
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Ben Ogrodnik 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to gather a list of articles, books, and reflections on
>> filmmaking cooperatives & film workshops in their heyday, c. 1960-1980s.
>>
>> Some recent examples of this would be *Shoot Shoot Shoot: The First
>> Decade of the London Film-Makers' Co-operative 1966-76*; or *Working
>> Together: Notes on British Film Collectives in the 1970s*.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
>>
>> Sincerely,
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Re: [Frameworks] articles, books, reflections on filmmaking cooperatives?

[Albert Alcoz]

The Workshop of the Film Form (1970-1977). Early Film Work From Poland
(DVD+booklet)
https://www.eai.org/titles/the-workshop-of-the-film-form-1970-1977

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Ben Ogrodnik 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to gather a list of articles, books, and reflections on
> filmmaking cooperatives & film workshops in their heyday, c. 1960-1980s.
>
> Some recent examples of this would be *Shoot Shoot Shoot: The First
> Decade of the London Film-Makers' Co-operative 1966-76*; or *Working
> Together: Notes on British Film Collectives in the 1970s*.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ben
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[Frameworks] Quad by Samuel Beckett

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Frameworkers,

​​
Does anyone know if ​the work *​Quad *
​(1981) ​
by Samu​e​l Beckett​ could be rented to some other distribution center
instead of​ SWR Media Services
​?

Thanks in advance,

Albert​

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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries within/with a group subject and participatory filmmaker(s)

[Albert Alcoz]

*T​*
*odos ​vos sodes capitans*
​ (2010) O
liver
​L​
axe
: ​
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646984/

Not quite sure wether
*Symbiopsychotaxiplasm*
​ (1968)​ by
William Greaves could be labelled under th
​e​
se circumstances
​.​

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sonya Mladenova 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Looking for documentary films shot with/within a group of people engaged
> in an activity or some kind of project, independently or in an organized
> environment,* in which the filmmaker is a visible and/or an active
> participatory presence*. I'm especially interested in films from the last
> 25-30 years. I'm investigating the relationship between the filmed
> person(s) and the person(s) filming, whatever the configuration.
>
> Somes examples, but not limited in scope:
> Starless Dreams by Mehrdad Oskouei
> À ciel ouvert by Mariana Otero
> La moindre des choses by Nicolas Philibert
>
> Many many thanks,
>
> Sonya
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for Nizo 6080 service manual

[Albert Alcoz]

try this webpage:

https://super8exchange.com/camera_instructions.php

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:26 AM, mike piso  wrote:

> Sorry if this is inappropriate to post here, but I recently recieved a
> Nizo 6080 super 8 camera with motor issues - wondering if anybody on this
> list had access to a service manual?
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Long takes and still images/ photography in experimental films

[Albert Alcoz]

John Woodman's landscape films on super 8 use long shots, well 3'20'' at 18
fps.
https://lux.org.uk/writing/new-dvd-landscape-films-1977-1982-john-woodman

What about *I Do Not Know What It Is I Am Like* and *Hatsu-Yume* by Bill
Viola?

Béla Tarr usually filmed long takes for works like *Sátántangó*, for
example.

Andy Warhol is the first artist that comes to mind concerning long takes,
though.

Concerning still images there are several filmmakers in Japan around the
late seventies and eighties that could be useful:
*Spacey* by Takashi Ito, *Engram* by Matsumoto Toshio.

Here are some links to some videos:
http://www.visionaryfilm.net/2013/05/japanese-experimental-films-cinema.html

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Warhol and Michael Snow
>
> Gene & Jane Youngblood
> (505) 395-6370 home
>
> On March 8, 2018 at 4:55:15 PM, jimmyschaus1 . (jimmysch...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Singling out long takes in a forum dedicated to experimental film is
> shooting fish in a barrel!  So I'll dive in with the more idiosyncratic
> part of the inquiry, photography/still images.  Two wonderful things I've
> seen recently entirely comprised of still photographic images "moving", and
> directly engage a sense of bemusement in finding the line between stasis
> and motion, are Abbas Kiarostami's *24 Frames* and Jon Jost's *Mountains
> as Mountains*, which you can watch here .
>
> shamelessly, my video Rocking Horses   
> (password=rocking,
> clever I know)
>
> stasis classics: Chris Marker's *La Jetee* and Raul Ruiz's *Dogs Dialog*
> .
>
> Apitchatpong Weerasathakul is a master of long takes, and in *Uncle
> Boonme...* you get two-for-one, as, if I recall, there's a lovely
> sequence of still photographs of Thai soldiers around the halfway mark.
>
> Pedro Costa's films are filled with long takes, and the opening of *Horse
> Money* is an incredible procession of Jacob Riis depression-era photos.
>
> Tsai Ming-Liang, and if you're really looking for parts that emphasize
> stillness and the weight of time, there's a 20 minute uninterrupted shot
> towards the end of *Stray Dogs* that's really something else.
>
>
> And yeah, James Benning, Sharon Lockhart, and some Ben Russell on the more
> experimental/non-narrative side of things.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Adam Hyman  wrote:
>
>> Virtually every James Benning film.
>>
>> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of
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>> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>" 
>> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 12:48 PM
>> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List "
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>> Subject: [Frameworks] Long takes and still images/ photography in
>> experimental films
>>
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>> I'm beginning a research about the presence of long takes and still
>> images/photography as expressive resources in the production of
>> experimental films.
>> If anyone has in mind films that work with these procedures and can share
>> with me some titles, I will appreciate a lot.
>> Best,
>> Sebastian
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Re: [Frameworks] question - 'the body/artist anatomies' in experimental film

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Here are some films and videos that could be labelled as self-portraits.
http://laboratoriaudiovisual.blogspot.com/p/autoretrat.html

I used them at the university of Fine Arts to suggest different ways to
approach the cinematic representation of the body.

They specially enjoyed the video *Shape Shift* (2004)
 by Scott Stark:
https://vimeo.com/31562958

Albert


On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 6:24 PM, John Muse  wrote:

> Stan Brakhage, Act of Seeing with One’s Own Eyes (1971)
> Anne Severson, Near the Big Chakra (1971)
>
> > On Feb 26, 2018, at 9:05 AM, Scott MacDonald 
> wrote:
> >
> > Seth, check out:
> >
> > Geography of the Body by Willard Maas (1943)
> > Fly by Yoko Ono
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Seth Pimlott <
> seth.piml...@network.rca.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Dear Frameworkers,
> >
> > I am working with some young artists on an artists' anatomy - a  film
> about a body - drawn from the experiences of the group.
> >
> > We have looked at the work of Ana Mendieta, and Derek Jarman's Blue for
> inspiration.
> >
> > But I wanted to ask a question. I wondered if there were some other
> films that you might recommend  - films that might be described as
> 'subjective' maps of the body in one way or another?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your time,
> >
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[Frameworks] Fiction feature length films about Avant-Garde cinema

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Do you recall any fiction feature length film that is a sort of tribute to
Avant-Garde or experimental film?

The other day, watching the film *Arrebato* (1980) by Iván Zulueta for ten
times I was wondering about feature lengths films (on 35 mm or digital
video) where one of the main topic is the practice of Avant-Garde film. We
could say this Spanish film is a homage to experimental super 8 film. The
main character does horror films and the other is learning how to use the
"pause" and the interval timer with his Canon 1014.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078797/

I don't know if there are some other fiction films that could be understood
under this idea.

Maybe *Dreams that Money Can't Buy *(1947)?

Do you have some other titles in mind?

Thank you!

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[Frameworks] Electronic Soundtracks for Avant-Garde Films

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello all,



After asking about jazz
​ and​
​ music an experimental film
​, ​
and feeling grateful for all the answers​, I was wondering about the
connections between early electronic music and avant-garde film.
​ ​
Recently I watched *OFFON* (1967-72) by Scott Bartlett with a “sound
composition” by Manny Meyer.


Again, there should be plenty of avant-garde films where the soundtrack is
instrumental electronic music or experimental
​abstract ​
sound created with magnetic tape recorders, synthesizers, electronic tools,
etc.



Maybe one question would be to define what is considered to be early
electronic music but anyway, lets try it.



Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with
​early ​
electronic music
​ from the 50's, 60's, 70's even 80's​
?



Right now here’s the first list:



*Cybernetik 5.3* (1968) by John Stehura. Music: Tod Dockstader.



*Crystals* (1968) by Herbert Loebel. Music: Michael Lloyd.



*Rohfilm *(1968) by Birgit & Wilhelm Hein. Music: Christian Michaelis.



*Two Images for a Computer Piece *(1969) by Lloyd Williams. Music: Vladimir
Ussachevsky.



*Variations on a Cellophane Wrapper* (1970) by David Rimmer. Music: Don
Druick.



*Berlin Horse* (1970) de Malcolm Le Grice. Music: Brian Eno.



*Mutations* (1973) by Lilian F. Schwartz. Music: Jean Claude Risset.



Several films by Dore O. and Werner Nekes with sountracks by Anthony Moore
like *Diwan *(1973) or* Kaskara* (1974).



*Riddles of the Sphinx* (1977) by Laura Mulvey and Peter Wollen. Music:
Mike Ratledge.



Thanks in advance,



Albert Alcoz


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Re: [Frameworks] expeimental or modernist

[Albert Alcoz]

Here's the most famous one, *Poème électronique*:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkQbs1ankQc

http://www.medienkunstnetz.de/works/poeme-electronique/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po%C3%A8me_%C3%A9lectronique

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> Has anyone ever seen a film by Le Corbusier?
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Re: [Frameworks] Jazz Music and Avant-Garde Film

[Albert Alcoz]

Sorry, this email was just for Stephen.

Anyway, thank you all for the different suggestions concerning the
connections about Jazz music and Avant-Garde cinema.

Some other day we could exchange ideas about other music styles, for
example Tango:

Tango by Zbigniew Rybczyński
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzG0niiKdko

Reasons to be Glad by Jeff Scher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0pEpA_Y1a4


On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Albert Alcoz <albertal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Stephen,
>
> Thank you very much for your suggestions! They are going to be very
> productive for my research.
>
> I have found this article written by Brett Kashmere that deals with some
> of this topics.
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Pull my Daisy! Of course!
>
> All the best,
> Albert
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Stephen Broomer <
> stephen_broo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Albert,
>>
>> Jack Chambers' R34 features a section of Ayler's Bells for the last
>> stretch of it.
>>
>> Joyce Wieland's Rat Life and Diet in North America has a violent
>> cacophony of free jazz at the beginning that I've not been able to identify.
>>
>> Joyce's Water Sark has an improvisational soundtrack by Carla Bley & Mike
>> Mantler (of the Jazz Composers Orchestra) with Ray Jessel (Broadway
>> composer and later novelty songwriter).
>>
>> Likewise, her Peggy's Blue Skylight is named for the Mingus composition
>> and features Paul Bley playing it on the soundtrack.
>>
>> There are passages of jazz in the collage soundtracks of Arthur Lipsett.
>> (Sorry for the Canada-centric response!)
>>
>> I feel like there's a Kuchar movie that has the Scott Lafaro bass solo
>> from Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz on the soundtrack...
>>
>> There's another Hy Hirsch film, Gyromorphosis, that uses Django by the
>> MJQ/John Lewis.
>>
>> There's always Pull My Daisy.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Albert Alcoz <albertal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was wondering about the connections between jazz music and avant-garde
>> film after watching *Bridges-Go-Round* (1958) by Shirley Clarke, with
>> the soundtrack version created by Teo Macero.
>>
>> There should be plenty of avant-garde and experimental films where the
>> soundtrack is instrumental jazz music. Maybe the field of Visual Music
>> should be the most represented but i'm sure there are other films like the
>> one by Michael Snow that uses, in this case, free jazz music or
>> improvisation.
>>
>> Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with jazz soundtracks?
>>
>> Right my list is as follows:
>>
>> *Begone Dull Care* (1949) by Norman McLaren. Music by Oscar Peterson
>>
>> *Films No. 1* (1948) by Harry Smith. Music by Dizzy Gillespie
>>
>> *Chasse des Touches* (1959) by Hy Hirsh. Music by Thelonious Monk
>>
>> *Catalog* (1961) by John Whitney. Music by Ornette Coleman
>>
>> *New York Eye and Ear Control *(1964) by Michael Snow. Music by
>> Albert Ayler, Don Cherry, etc.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Albert Alcoz
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Jazz Music and Avant-Garde Film

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Stephen,

Thank you very much for your suggestions! They are going to be very
productive for my research.

I have found this article written by Brett Kashmere that deals with some of
this topics.
[image: Inline image 1]

Pull my Daisy! Of course!

All the best,
Albert

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Stephen Broomer <stephen_broo...@hotmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Albert,
>
> Jack Chambers' R34 features a section of Ayler's Bells for the last
> stretch of it.
>
> Joyce Wieland's Rat Life and Diet in North America has a violent cacophony
> of free jazz at the beginning that I've not been able to identify.
>
> Joyce's Water Sark has an improvisational soundtrack by Carla Bley & Mike
> Mantler (of the Jazz Composers Orchestra) with Ray Jessel (Broadway
> composer and later novelty songwriter).
>
> Likewise, her Peggy's Blue Skylight is named for the Mingus composition
> and features Paul Bley playing it on the soundtrack.
>
> There are passages of jazz in the collage soundtracks of Arthur Lipsett.
> (Sorry for the Canada-centric response!)
>
> I feel like there's a Kuchar movie that has the Scott Lafaro bass solo
> from Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz on the soundtrack...
>
> There's another Hy Hirsch film, Gyromorphosis, that uses Django by the
> MJQ/John Lewis.
>
> There's always Pull My Daisy.
>
> Stephen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Albert Alcoz <albertal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering about the connections between jazz music and avant-garde
> film after watching *Bridges-Go-Round* (1958) by Shirley Clarke, with the
> soundtrack version created by Teo Macero.
>
> There should be plenty of avant-garde and experimental films where the
> soundtrack is instrumental jazz music. Maybe the field of Visual Music
> should be the most represented but i'm sure there are other films like the
> one by Michael Snow that uses, in this case, free jazz music or
> improvisation.
>
> Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with jazz soundtracks?
>
> Right my list is as follows:
>
> *Begone Dull Care* (1949) by Norman McLaren. Music by Oscar Peterson
>
> *Films No. 1* (1948) by Harry Smith. Music by Dizzy Gillespie
>
> *Chasse des Touches* (1959) by Hy Hirsh. Music by Thelonious Monk
>
> *Catalog* (1961) by John Whitney. Music by Ornette Coleman
>
> *New York Eye and Ear Control *(1964) by Michael Snow. Music by
> Albert Ayler, Don Cherry, etc.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Albert Alcoz
>
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[Frameworks] Jazz Music and Avant-Garde Film

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

I was wondering about the connections between jazz music and avant-garde
film after watching *Bridges-Go-Round* (1958) by Shirley Clarke, with the
soundtrack version created by Teo Macero.

There should be plenty of avant-garde and experimental films where the
soundtrack is instrumental jazz music. Maybe the field of Visual Music
should be the most represented but i'm sure there are other films like the
one by Michael Snow that uses, in this case, free jazz music or
improvisation.

Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with jazz soundtracks?

Right my list is as follows:

*Begone Dull Care* (1949) by Norman McLaren. Music by Oscar Peterson

*Films No. 1* (1948) by Harry Smith. Music by Dizzy Gillespie

*Chasse des Touches* (1959) by Hy Hirsh. Music by Thelonious Monk

*Catalog* (1961) by John Whitney. Music by Ornette Coleman

*New York Eye and Ear Control *(1964) by Michael Snow. Music by
Albert Ayler, Don Cherry, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Albert Alcoz


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[Frameworks] A desktop video

[Albert Alcoz]

Someone was looking for desktops videos by artists
​ but i can not find the previous emails.​


Here is
​a good ​
one
​named ​
*OS Love*
​(2016) ​
by Luc Gut
​:​

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/osloveen
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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for scenes with bus shelter / bus stop

[Albert Alcoz]

A beautiful film by Chris Gallagher named *Seeing in the Rain* (1981) was
done inside a Vancouver bus.
https://vimeo.com/24248427

Beat Streuli has done pictures and time based works concerning cities and
transit with buses stops on it.
http://www.beatstreuli.com/random-timebasedmedia.html
http://www.beatstreuli.com/miscellaneous-80-x-115-cm-11.html

Some years ago i shoot some super 8 images in Buenos Aires with buses on
it. I was amazed by their speeds.
They looked dangerous for the pedestrians. Here's a frame still:
http://www.albertalcoz.com/2013/08/bs-as-24-fps.html


​

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:56 AM, Christopher Harris 
wrote:

> Jessica,
>
>
> Here are two short films by Joel Wanek:
>
>
> Heart of Durham focuses on people at a bus stop.
>
> http://www.joelwanek.com/film/heart-of-durham/
> Heart of Durham : JOEL WANEK
> 
> www.joelwanek.com
> Joel Wanek
>
> Sun Song focuses on people riding the bus though maybe there are no
> stops/shelters seen in the film.
>
> http://www.joelwanek.com/film/sun-song/
> 
> Sun Song - JOEL WANEK 
> www.joelwanek.com
> SUN SONG (2013/video/15min/silent) SYNOPSIS A poetic journey from the
> darkness of early dawn into the brightness of the midday sun in the
> American South.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:51 PM
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Looking for scenes with bus shelter / bus stop
>
> Dear Frameworks people,
>
> I'm looking for film scenes that happens in bus shelters/stops. If any
> scenes are coming up in your mind, please feel free to send the title of
> the film.
>
> Thanks a lot and all the best,
>
>
> Jessica Arseneau
> Interdisciplinary artist
> jessarseneau.github.io
> Jessica Arseneau 
> jessarseneau.github.io
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> fields of social and individual imaginaries with an aesthetic gesture that
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Re: [Frameworks] mental problems

[Albert Alcoz]

Carnival of Souls (1962) Herk Harvey
Shock Corridor (1963) Samuel Fuller
8½ (1963) Federico Fellini
The Trip (1967) Roger Corman
3 Women (1977) Robert Altman
etc.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Anderwald Grond  wrote:

> historical films, more into the direction of breakdown:
> Henri-Georges Clouzot’s unfinished film L’enfer
> Tenosuke Kinugasa’s A Page of Madness
> Jean Epstein’s The Fall of the House of Usher
>
> Ruth + Leo
>
>
> Am 22.03.2017 um 17:41 schrieb Gene Youngblood :
>
> Friends, I’m seeking recommendations of feature films with scenes that
> attempt to visualize inner states of mind such as breakdowns (Vertigo),
> nightmares (Spellbound), acid trips (Easy Rider) or any other kind of
> hallucination (Altered States). Ecstatic or horrific doesn’t matter. Thanks.
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Re: [Frameworks] optical sound film screening

[Albert Alcoz]

Hi,

Here are some avant-garde films about the optical sound issue:

*Trees in Autumn* by Kurt Kren
*Ten Drawings* by Steve Farrer
Those included in the *Optical Sound Films* by Guy Sherwin:
https://lux.org.uk/artist/guy-sherwin
*Angular Momentum* by Bill Brand: https://vimeo.com/72722809

I recommend you to check this academic investigation:
Puetz, Michelle Adrianna. "Variable Area: Hearing and Seeing Sound in
Structural Cinema, 1966-1978." Diss., University of Chicago, 2012.

Here's a good staring point too.
http://blogs.saic.edu/cate/variable-area-hearing-and-seeing-sound-1966%E2%80%9378/

And here's a little film Alberto Cabrera Bernal and I did some years ago
named *14 x 14*:
https://vimeo.com/49840802

If you want to see it entirely, just let me know it.

Albert

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Peter Szely  wrote:

> hello all,
>
> my name is peter szely from ima, institute for media archeology.
>
> feel free to check out our website www.ima.or.at
>
>  I have a question:
>
> ima always set itself a yearly topic in our work.
>
> this years topic is optical sound.
>
> we plan to have workshops and concerts dealing with optical sound, and we
> also plan to hav a film screening  of movies.
>
> we are interested in movies where the sound comes from manipulations and
> treatments such as drawing or scratching directly on the celluloid,
>
> do you have any recommendations of fine pieces of film working like this?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> best szely
> Peter Szely
> sz...@ima.or.at
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Re: [Frameworks] Lying as a theme

[Albert Alcoz]

*David Holzman's Diary* (1967) by Jim McBride

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Rob Gawthrop 
wrote:

> Shirley Clarke "The Connection” 1961
>
> Rob
>
> On 22 Feb 2017, at 01:49, Morgan Hoyle-Combs 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Does anyone know of any film (essay/diary/doc) where lying is a theme or
> the main focus? I wondered if there was anything that ran among these lines:
> >
> > 1. The audience is well aware that the narrator/filmmaker is lying to
> them
> >
> > 2. The audience does not know whether or not the narrator/filmmaker
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Re: [Frameworks] "Husbands" and "Wives"

[Albert Alcoz]

The initial purpose was identifying:
*"filmmakers who are in relationships with other filmmakers (...) where
their individual works are distinct and separate from each other"*

Faith and John Hubley wouldn't fit there, but Lynne Sachs and Mark Street
would.
Some of the names mentioned above work together as a team...



On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Justin Mackenzie 
wrote:

> Maartje Seyferth and Victor nieuwenhuijs
>
> On 11 Feb 2017, at 01:09, "Gene Youngblood"  wrote:
>
> Carolee Schneeman and James Tenney.
>
>
> On February 10, 2017 at 4:34:45 PM, Els van Riel (m...@elsvanriel.be)
> wrote:
>
> Anja Dornieden & Juan David Gonzalez Monroy
>
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 22:18, Jonathan Walley  wrote:
>
> Anthony McCall & Carolee Scheemann
> Sandra Gibson & Luis Recoder
> Jordan Belson & Jane Conger Belson Shimane
> Wilhelm & Birgit Hein
> Tony Conrad & Beverly Grant/Conrad
> Ken & Flo Jacobs
> Charles & Ray Eames
>
>
>
> Dr. Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor and Chair
> Department of Cinema
> Denison University
> wall...@denison.edu
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2017, at 3:55 PM, John MacKay  wrote:
>
> Vertov and Svilova!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Pip Chodorov  wrote:
>
> Sorry I forgot
> Alexander Alexeieff and Claire Parker
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Re: [Frameworks] "Husbands" and "Wives"

[Albert Alcoz]

Marie Menken and Willard Mass?

Werner Nekes and Dore O.?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:27 PM, George, Sherman  wrote:

> Joel DeMott and Jeff Kreines “ Seventeen” and others.
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2017, at 7:59 AM, minou norouzi 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Frameworkers,
>
> I'm doing some research on filmmaking couples and wondered if you could
> help?
>
> Am looking to identify filmmakers who are in relationships with other
> filmmakers, or those have been in the past, and where their individual
> works are distinct and separate from each other, rather than outright
> collaborations (if that makes sense). This, within the artist's film,
> artist-made film, experimental film genre.
> The pairings I'm looking to identify need not be heterosexual pairings;
> very open to historical suggestions as well. They just both need to have
> made a significant number of films of their own.
>
> Look forward to hearing your suggestions - very many thanks in advance!
> Minou
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[Frameworks] Fwd: Angular 01: Last ten copies! (Limited edition of 150)

[Albert Alcoz]

*Angular* | *Experimental Cinema and Artists' Video*












*Dear friends, We’re delighted to announce that the first DVD published by
Angular <http://angularfilms.com/english.html>has been a real success and
we’ve gotten down to our last ten copies ─ as well as those on sale at La
Central (Madrid and Barcelona), Re:Voir (Paris) and Númax (Santiago de
Compostela). We’d like to take this opportunity to remind you that there
are only 150 numbered copies of these limited edition handcrafted DVDs. If
you’re interested in getting your hands on one of the remaining copies, you
can make your purchase at the following link
<http://angularfilms.com/shop.html>. Don’t miss out! Thanks a lot! *

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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

*Wittgenstein* (1993) by Derek Jarman could be useful. There are some texts
by the philospopher recited by the characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIu70Jo38eo

*Dromosphäre* (2010) by Thorsten Fleisch begins with a quotation of Paul
Virilio about speed:
https://vimeo.com/8067013

On another level, I recommend watching the beginning of this film by Peter
Rose, named *Pressures of the Text* (1983):
https://vimeo.com/48773390

Would like to read more suggestions here!

Albert

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> i guess I’m the first to mention the obvious: Michael Snow, "Rameau's
> Nephew by Diderot"
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Re: [Frameworks] Fischinger and optical tracks

[Albert Alcoz]

Here is a great article about these issues written by Thomas Y. Levin:

http://www.centerforvisualmusic.org/LevinPfen.pdf

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Pip Chodorov 
wrote:

> You can see a glimpse of FIschinger's sound cards at the end of this short
> clip.
> https://vimeo.com/ondemand/26951
>
>
>
> At 17:29 + 26/12/16, Beebe, Roger W. wrote:
>
>
> Jeff,
>
>
> Thanks for sharing‹really interesting.  I couldn¹t make heads or tails of
> what the text accompanying the figures is describing, but it¹s still
> intriguingŠ
>
>
> Best,
>
> Roger
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Jeff Kreines  wrote:
>
>
> This is pretty wonderful. Go to page 274 to see how Oskar Fischinger draws
> optical soundtracks on film.
>
>
> http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Television-News/Televisi
> on-News-1933-Jan-Feb.pdf
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Re: [Frameworks] Films on Farming

[Albert Alcoz]

Two more films:

*Works and Days* (1969) by Hollis Frampton

*Mala Leche* (2003) by Naomi Uman

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Daniel Benjamin Robin 
wrote:

> Here's a documentary web series I did about an urban organic farm in
> Atlanta. It's kind of epic, 90 episodes.
>
>
> http://filmmakermagazine.com/100543-more-publicity-means-
> more-protection-sonia-kennebeck-on-national-bird/#.WCdRTOErKEI
>
>
> 
> Daniel Robin
> Associate Professor of Film and Digital Media Production
> Department of Communication
> Georgia State University
> 25 Park Place, Suite 1019, Atlanta, GA 30303
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> *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2016 3:32:53 PM
> *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Films on Farming
>
> Hello,
>
> I am interested in experimental films that focus on farming both historic
> and current. Any leads, titles, essays about this intersection of art and
> agriculture would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Flipbooks by filmmakers

[Albert Alcoz]

Elena and Ruth thank you very much for those links.

We will share them to the future creators to get some new ideas because our
aim is to
keep on doing flipbooks by different filmmakers for each CRANC screening.

Best,
Albert

On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Elena Duque <elenadu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Albert!
>
> PrintRoom in Rotterdam has some great flibooks by artists like Lewis
> Klahr, Esther Urlus, Martha Colburn and more (they usually make a new
> series for every IFFR).
> https://printroom.wordpress.com/2016/01/22/friday-29-
> november-2016-smithsoniana-the-flip-collection-vi-launch-
> of-erigones-daughter-by-lewis-klahr/
>
> Yours are <3
>
> 2016-10-23 1:49 GMT+02:00 William Gazecki <wgaze...@earthlink.net>:
>
>> Ruth that’s amazing work.
>>
>> Thank you for the intro.
>>
>>
>>
>> William Gazecki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *FrameWorks <frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com> on behalf of
>> Ruth Hayes <randomr...@comcast.net>
>> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <
>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> *Date: *Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 4:39 PM
>> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Frameworks] Flipbooks by filmmakers
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Albert,
>>
>>
>>
>> I invite you to look at my flipbooks on this website.
>> http://www.randommotion.com/html/flip.html
>>
>>  I’m happy to answer questions about them off list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ruth Hayes
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.randommotion.com
>>
>> blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:31 AM, Albert Alcoz <albertal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone recommend some great flipbooks created by filmmakers or
>> artists?
>>
>>
>>
>> With some friends we are producing limited editions of Flipbooks related
>> to the CRANC screenings in Barcelona (Spain), and we would like to watch
>> some other different procedures.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the four flipbooks we have done:
>>
>> http://cranc-projeccions.blogspot.com/2016/09/flipbooks.html
>>
>>
>>
>> The flipbooks by Scott Blake seems a great starting point, especially
>> those made with dots:
>>
>> http://www.barcodeart.com/store/collectible/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Albert Alcoz
>>
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[Frameworks] Flipbooks by filmmakers

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Can anyone recommend some great flipbooks created by filmmakers or artists?

With some friends we are producing limited editions of Flipbooks related to
the CRANC screenings in Barcelona (Spain), and we would like to watch some
other different procedures.

Here are the four flipbooks we have done:
http://cranc-projeccions.blogspot.com/2016/09/flipbooks.html

The flipbooks by Scott Blake seems a great starting point, especially those
made with dots:
http://www.barcodeart.com/store/collectible/index.html

Best,
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Re: [Frameworks] Wild sound in film

[Albert Alcoz]

*Critical Mass* by Hollis Frampton?

*Picture and Sound Rushes* by Morgan Fisher?

They both use "sound that is recorded at the same time and location as the
imagery, but is not synchronized to the imagery in the final film"

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Deana LeBlanc 
wrote:

> John & Jane and Miss Lovely.  Directed by Ashim Ahluwalia.
>
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016, Francisco Torres 
> wrote:
>
>> P Chodorov- Re voir page shows a 404 error!
>>
>> 2016-09-01 17:50 GMT-04:00 Francisco Torres :
>>
>>> - ''Rameau's Nephew'' The feel good movie of the summer!
>>>
>>> 2016-09-01 11:25 GMT-04:00 Bill Seery :
>>>
 "Anastomosis" by Andrej Zdravic is one of the most effective examples
 of the use of wild sound that I've seen.

 Bill Seery
 b...@mercermedia.com
 212.627.8070


 >>I'm looking for suggestions of films that prominently utilize "wild
 sound"
 in their soundtracks. (I'm defining wild sound as sound that is
 recorded at
 the same time and location as the imagery, but is not synchronized to
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Re: [Frameworks] Japanese underground cult cinema

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Jamie,

Julian Ross wrote a PhD dissertation about japanese experimental cinema,
mostly related to performances and expanded cinema practices.

http://post.at.moma.org/profiles/415-julian-ross

Maybe he can help you.

Best,
Albert

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Jamie Cleeland 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I am looking to find academic writing on the history of Japanese
> underground cult cinema.  Ideally, writing that places modern Japanese
> underground movies in relation to a larger historic context, one that
> includes performance theatre.   Any pointers?
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Resources on history of 16mm technology

[Albert Alcoz]

"Independent filmmaking" by Lenny Lipton could be a good reference:
https://www.amazon.com/Independent-filmmaking-Lenny-Lipton/dp/0879320109

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Dave Tetzlaff  wrote:

> > I'm writing about the use of 16mm in experimental filmmaking of the
> 1970s and am looking for texts that deal with the history of film
> technology, scholarly sources that look, for example, at the emergence of
> 16mm as an amateur/documentary/artists' medium.
>
> Hmm. If we distinguish 'amateurs' from 'artists' 16mm emerged as an
> amateur medium decades before the 70s, and was all but submerged for
> amateurs by the 70s, in favor of Super-8. You'd be hard pressed to find any
> artists who worked with the 'amateur' 16mm cameras that were made at least
> through the 1950s: Kodak K100, B+H 240, Reveres… and only spare use of
> 'amateur' Kodachrome and Ektachrome stocks that didn't come back from the
> lab with edge numbers.
>
> The history of documentary tech is a whole 'nother creature -- all 16mm up
> to the 70s -- but marked by advances in blipping, sound sync, battery
> power, coaxial magazines, reflex finders, etc. etc. (I have an AC-power
> only Yoder-style chop-top in my closet, if anyone wants one…). Only in the
> 70s did portable video emerge as a documentary medium, e.g. in the ½"
> open-reel 'Four More Years' by TVTV.
>
> Experimental filmmaking was not articulated to 'amateur' filmmaking as
> much as industrial/educational filmmaking. Experimental filmmaking was
> dependent on the wide availability of cameras, projectors, stocks, labs
> etc. primarily used by the 'A/V' market. Once that market moved to video,
> those sources began to dry up, posing ever-increasing difficulties to
> photo-chemical experimental work. A tech history of experimental film in
> the 70s should also look at it's intersections/oppositions to technologies
> used in 'video art', e.g. in Scott Bartlett's 'Off/On', and computer
> graphics, e.g. John Whitney.
>
> All that said, for the history of 'amateur' film, it would be remiss not
> to mention the work of FRAMEWORKER Patti Zimmerman, noted on the CHM site
> Buck linked.
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Re: [Frameworks] AVANT16 -- So Is This

[Albert Alcoz]

Great initiative!

This work by Jen Proctor could be programmed there, too:
http://cargo.jenniferproctor.com/So-s-Nephew-by-Remes-thanx-toMichael-Snow-by-Jorrie-Penn-Croft

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:40 PM, John Sundholm 
wrote:

>
> AVANT16: So Is This
>
> 2016.09.23-2016.09.24
>
> http://www.avantfilm.se/avant-2016-so-is-this/
>
>
> The 13th edition of AVANT is a tribute to Michael Snow's film *So Is This*.
> A film that consists only of text and challenges the idea that film, or
> language, refers to a surrounding world. This, in *So Is This* is simply
> the event that unfolds when the film takes place.
>
> Besides Michael Snow (Canada) the filmmakers Els van Riel (Belgium),
> Esther Urlus (Netherlands) and Elke Groen (Austria) are invited. All three
> deals with film as an event and with the material specificity of film; van
> Riel with time, Urlus with the materiality of film colour, and Groen with
> the actual memory of the film material.
>
>
>
> AVANT begins on Friday evening at Kristinehamn Art Museum with a screening
> of * So Is This *after which follows the opening of Els van Riel’s
> installations * Five Screens *and *OMER*. Saturday opens at cinema Arenan
> in Karlstad with a screening of Snow’s *La Région Centrale*. After this
> follows two programs with films by Esther Urlus and Elke Groen.
>
>
>
> AVANT has been organized since 2002 and the 13th edition is a
> collaboration between Världsalltet, Kristinehamn Art Museum, Karlstad and
> Stockholm University. So Is This is sponsored by Karlstad University,
> Karlstad Municipality, Kristinehamn Art Museum and Region Värmland.
>
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Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Ben,

Here's a video I created some years ago dealing with interlacing aesthetic:
http://www.albertalcoz.com/2012/11/send-me-copy.html

It was done repeating some frames where the interlace images were
overemphasized.

Albert

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Woody Vasulka pioneered these kinds of investigations vasulka.org
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Laura McGough  wrote:
>
> Richard Dienst talks a bit about scanning as an aesthetic in "Still Life
> in Real Time: Theory After Television"
>
> Best,
>
> Laura
>
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:00 AM, Ben Gwilliam 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering if anyone knows of any critical texts on video interlacing
> aesthetics or similar texts that deal with substrate artifact in digital
> video.
>
> Cheers
> Ben
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Exemplary Sound Design in AG Film

[Albert Alcoz]

*Angular Momentum* by Bill Brand
https://vimeo.com/72722809



On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:45 PM, John Muse  wrote:

> I love the sound of Dresden Dynamo by Lis Rhodes.  And Violin Power by
> Steina Vasulka.
>
> On May 15, 2016, at 5:32 PM, alena williams  wrote:
>
> > anger's invocation of my demon brother
> >
> > On 15.05.2016, at 12:36, lagonaboba  wrote:
> >
> >> For a class I’m preparing, I’m interested in suggestions as to
> Experimental Films with exemplary, excellent sound design and sound editing.
> >> By excellent I mean, complex, layered, inventive, of rich and nuanced
> timbre….excellent for it’s sonic qualities (as opposed to strictly
> intellectual qualities).
> >> As I plan to rent prints, it would be helpful if the works were
> available from FMC, Canyon, MOMA or some USA domestic distributor.
> >> I would include:
> >>
> >> Baillie’s Castro Street  & Quick Billy,
> >> Kubelka’s Unsere Afrikareise,
> >> Hindle’s Watersmith
> >> Jack Chambers’ Hart of London
> >>
> >> Thanks.
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Re: [Frameworks] Camera obscura films

[Albert Alcoz]

Some Robert Schaller films like Under the shadow of Marcus mountain were
also made using a pinhole camera:
http://www.robertschaller.org/film/

*Terra incognita* (2002) by Ben Russell.

Aïm Deüelle Lüski
​ has work on super 8 and has design some curious pinhole cameras but maybe
just for pictures.. Some of them were exhibited here:
http://ajuntament.barcelona.cat/lavirreina/es/exposiciones/aim-deuelle-luski-imagenes-residuales-fotografia-documental-en-tiempos-oscuros

*Glider* by Ernie Gehr
​i​
s such a marvelous
​and surprising ​
work.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Pip Chodorov 
wrote:

> Paolo Gioli's FILM STENOPEICO was made in 16mm using a pinhole camera.
>
> And Patrick Bokanowski's LA FEMME QUI SE POUDRE is a beautiful film made
> using a camera obscura and reworked glass  (he called his lenses subjectifs
> instead of objectifs)
>
>
> At 13:18 -0400 19/03/16, Jonathan Walley wrote:
>
> I'm looking for experimental films (including videos) about camera
> obscuras, and/or made using camera obscuras or pinhole cameras. I know about*
> Glider* by Ernie Gehr and Minyong Jang's *The Dark Room*, although I
> don't know who distributes these (anyone know?). But any other suggestions
> are welcome.
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Re: [Frameworks] Collage and political narrative

[Albert Alcoz]

Abigail Child's films​

*Now* (Santiago Álvarez, 1965)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6c5n1ycoE

*Tribulations 99* (Craig Baldwin, 1992)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-So8ncddSBY
​

Well, maybe, those films are not "entirely shot by the filmmakers..."​


On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Elena Duque  wrote:

> It for Others, by Duncan Campbell may be one:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z6SCDeh4_A
>
>
>
> 2016-02-29 5:17 GMT+01:00 Andy Ditzler :
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions of films and videos using collage
>> structure in the context of political work. I'm thinking of a great
>> video by the Brazilian artist Tadeu Jungle, Herois da Decadensia (1987),
>> which incorporates parallel tracks of political documentary,
>> street performance art, Surrealist-inspired imagery, and other items.
>> Though its elements are wildly divergent, it coheres into a kind of
>> "collage narrative." It struck me that Makaveyev's WR: Mysteries of the
>> Organism and Sweet Movie both work in this fashion, as does Rivette's Out
>> 1, with its parallel conspiracy narrative and documentary footage of
>> theater groups in rehearsal.
>>
>> Can anyone think of other work in this mode? Works that cut between
>> divergent events and sections, to create a whole? I'm especially interested
>> in knowing of short works, but anything that comes to mind would be useful.
>> I've always been fascinated by this kind of work.
>>
>> I'm thinking of this "genre" as distinct from the found footage collage
>> tradition exemplified by Bruce Conner's A MOVIE, since the above works were
>> all shot by the filmmakers. Nevertheless, suggestions that frustrate this
>> divide are also welcome. Many thanks.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy Ditzler
>> Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
>> Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Big Shadows

[Albert Alcoz]

Recently Eva Kolcze shared this video on facebook:

Facing The Waves (2016)

https://vimeo.com/153938098

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Gene Youngblood 
wrote:

>  Sounds interesting, Pip. Like the inverse of Bill Viola’s “Sweet Light,”
> in which he walks toward the camera at night wearing white clothes with
> someone walking along beside him in black clothes shining a bright light on
> him. This starts at some distance, so all you see is a glowing white figure
> advancing toward the camera with direct sound picking up his footsteps.
>
> > On Feb 25, 2016, at 11:03 PM, Pip Chodorov 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gene,
> > You'll have to search for this but Gaspard Noe made a music video in
> which he walks through the forest with a handheld camera at night, followed
> by someone carrying a bright light, the result is his own shadow walking
> eerily through the woods. I can't find the title now but I think it fits
> right in.
> > Pip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 8:24 -0700 25/02/16, Gene Youngblood wrote:
> >> Friends, following the success of my 360-degree query, here's one more:
> films with Expressionist-style large shadows, such as the sewer in the
> Third Man or Noirs like The Big Combo. I need shadows of whole human
> figures as well as hands (as in Nosferatu).
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films involving minerals

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Sailing Stones (2011) Adrian Missika
https://vimeo.com/47970856

Arrastre (2010) Nicholas Brooks
http://lightcone.org/en/film-8291-arrastre

Mediations (1979-89) Gary Hill
https://vimeo.com/5596880

Pedres (2004) Lluís de Sola
http://www.adecinema.com/adecinema/Pedres.html

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Eric Theise  wrote:

> Richard Serra, Hand Catching Lead, 1968
> http://artforum.com/video/mode=large=25373
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Gene Youngblood 
> wrote:
>
>> If sand qualifies as a mineral, see Nathaniel Dorsky’s Alaya.
>>
>> > On Feb 25, 2016, at 1:40 PM, Peggy McShine 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Frameworkers,
>> >
>> > I'm looking for experimental films involving minerals. Any examples?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot,
>> >
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Re: [Frameworks] Index of experimental film and/or video art collections and archives

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There's the media & video art distribution from Spain named HAMACA, for 
example...http://www.hamacaonline.net/default.php

 

El Domingo 21 de febrero de 2016 11:16, Anna Briggs 
 escribió:
 

 Hello,

Iam a moving image archivist specialised in film literacy, archivaloutreach and 
programming, amateur and documentary film curation. I amcurrently a lecturer in 
cataloguing and documentary film analysis, aswell as a Ph.D. candidate at the 
Université François-Rabelais deTours (France): the subject of my thesis is 
non-fiction moving imagesas archival and curatorial objects. I am writing to 
ask where I mightpossibly find anindex of experimental film and/or video art 
collections and archives.Iam particularly looking for archives in non-Western 
countries, toinvestigate as part of a thesis chapter about the 
experimentalparadigm. I have consulted lists of films archives compiled by 
theInternational Federation of Film Archives, the Association of MovingImage 
Archivists and the Library of Congress, but I wonder if thereis a more 
specialised database. 

Thankyou,

AnnaBriggshttp://intru.hypotheses.org/les-chercheurs-2/doctorants/anna-briggs
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Re: [Frameworks] structuralist/materialist films by women

[Albert Alcoz]

Hi,
Eugènia Balcells from Barcelona (Spain) created a film named Fuga and a major 
work with Eugeni Bonet: 133 
(1978-79)http://www.visionaryfilm.net/2011/08/cine-estructural-de-found-footage-133.html

Dresden Dynamo and Light Music by Lis 
Rhodes:http://lux.org.uk/collection/artists/lis-rhodes

The films by Dore O.?http://www.doreo.de/film.html

 

El Sábado 20 de febrero de 2016 4:31, Marc Couroux  
escribió:
 

 And a resounding yes to Fitzgibbon whose almost complete works screened a few 
years ago in Toronto. Blown away. Would love to see those again - I wonder if 
there are any plans to release them on BR? (Pip, are you listening?)Cheers!M
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Jesse Pires  wrote:

Hey John, are you familiar with the work of Coleen Fitzgibbon? Great stuff.
-Jesse Pires
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:36 PM, John Muse  wrote:

I'm looking for structuralist/materialist films by women, whether made in the 
60's and 70's or later.  Gidal include Wieland in his anthology; Sailboat is 
lovely, comic, and punchy.  And I, against the grain, appreciate Ono's Fluxus 
works from this angle.  I just found Birgit Hein and will recruit Akerman's Le 
Chambre for the purpose.  Leslie Thorton's X-TRACT helps too.  Thank you 
UbuWeb!  What am I missing?

j/PrM

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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

[Albert Alcoz]

Deep End (1970) Jerzy Skolimowski 

El Viernes 1 de enero de 2016 18:16, Tim Halloran  
escribió:
 

 The reference to 'Paranoid Park' reminded me of the short but very important 
shower scene in Van Sant's 'Elephant.'

Tim

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Kenneth Linehan  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a shower scene in Paranoid Park by Gus Van Sant, with some really 
> excellent sound work by Hildegarde Westerkamp
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Daniel Hess  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I need to call on the great well of obsessive cinema knowledge that is 
>> Frameworks. I am on a mission to collect as many shower/bath scenes as 
>> possible. How many films with a shower/bath scene can you recall? Don't 
>> forget prison showers, bathhouse showers (I will also allow sauna scenes), 
>> someone cleaning a shower, dog showers...
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Noteworthy Publications This Year?

[Albert Alcoz]

Here are some 
recommendations.http://www.visionaryfilm.net/search/label/Recomendaciones

Jenkins, Bruce, Michael Snow. Sequences. A Study of His Art.Barcelona: 
Ediciones Polígrafa, 2015;MacDonald, Scott, Binghampton Babylon. Voices From 
the Cinema Department (1967-1977). New York: Suny Press, 2015;Remes, Justin, 
Motion(less) Pictures. The Cinema of Stasis. New York: Columbia University 
Press, 2015 V. Uroskie, Andrew, Between the Black Box and The White Cube. 
Expanded Cinema and Postwar Art. Chicago: The University of Chicago, 2014.

Woloshen, Steve, Scratch, Crakle & Pop!Bassan, Raphaël, Cinéma Expérimental. 
Abécédaire pour une contre-cultureJames, David E. & Hyman, Adam (Ed.) 
Alternative Projections. Experimental Film in Los Angeles 1945–1980 Ramey, 
Kathryn, Experimental Filmmaking.

M. Cabañas, Kaira, Off-Screen Cinema. Isidore Isou And The Lettrist 
Avant-Garde. The University of Chicago Press, 2015Elwes, Catherine, 
Installation And The moving Image. Wallflower Press, 2015Gaal-Holmes, Patti, A 
History Of 1970s Experimental Film. Britain's Decade Of Diversity. Palgrave 
Macmillan, 2015 Sutton, Gloria, The Experience Machine. Stan VanDerBeek's 
Movie-Drome And Expanded Cinema. The MIT Press, 2015. 

 

El Miércoles 30 de diciembre de 2015 22:33, Scott Hammen 
 escribió:
 

 This may not qualify since it is not a real book, but the subject might be of 
interest:
https://itunes.apple.com/au/book/rose-by-rose-lowder/id1057932493?mt=11

Scott Hammen

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To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " 



Alternative Projections: Experimental Film in Los Angeles, 1945-1980Edited by 
David E. James & Adam Hyman
L.A. Rebellion: Creating a New Black CinemaEdited by Allyson Nadia Field, 
Jan-Christopher-Horak, and Jacqueline Najuma Stewart
Also, the last Millennium Film Journal focused on new books.
Best,
Adam
From:  David Baker 
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Date:  Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:15:01 -0500
To:  "Experimental Film Discussion List " 

Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] Noteworthy Publications This Year?

Scott MacDonald's revelatory, BINGHAMTON BABYLON: VOICES FROM THE CINEMA 
DEPARTMENT 1967-1977
PAPER AIRPLANES: The Collections of Harry Smith Catalogue Raisonne Vol I
STRING FIGURES: The Collections of Harry Smith Catalogue Raisonne , Vol. II 
Editors- John Klacsmann               Andrew Lampert
CHROMATIC ALGORITHMS: SYNTHETIC COLOR, COMPUTER ART, and AESTHETICS AFTER CODE
- Carolyn L. Kane("Life is won by wresting colors from the past."-Gilles 
Deleuze )
FANTASIA OF COLOR IN EARLY CINEMA- Tom Gunning et al.
THE EXPERIENCE MACHINE: STAN VANDERBEEK'S MOVIE-DROME AND EXPANDED 
CINEMA-Gloria Sutton
Jane (Brakhage) Wodening's book:BRAKHAGE'S CHILDHOOD
(Haven't read this yet but I certainly intend to.Recommended by someone whose 
opinionI hold in the highest regard.)

On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Michael Betancourt wrote:

What were the noteworthy publications this year? My reading pile has gotten 
smaller...

Michael Betancourt
Savannah, GA USA


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[Frameworks] Angular Vol. 01

[Albert Alcoz]

Angular | Cine experimental y videocreación | Experimental Cinema and Artists' 
Video
Newsletter | 18 de diciembre de 2015 | English version below
Estimados amigos,
Nos alegra poder anunciaros que el primer volumen de Angular está disponible 
a la venta, a través de nuestra página web, en edición limitada de 150 
ejemplares. 
Contiene un DVD con 13 películas y un libro de 82 páginas en castellano e 
inglés 
con reseñas de los trabajos escogidos, y una entrevista a Marcos Ortega, 
director 
de Experimental Cinema. Esperamos que os guste. ¡Gracias!
Dear friends,

We are happy to announce that Angular's Volume 01 is available for sale on our 
website 
in a limited edition of 150 copies. The set consists of: a DVD with 13 films, 
and a 82-page 
book in both Spanish and English, which includes analytical texts by our 
contributors 
on the selected works, plus an interview with Marcos Ortega, director of the 
website 
Experimental Cinema. We hope you will like it! Thanks!

Albert Alcoz y Alberto Cabrera Bernal

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Re: [Frameworks] Digital file to VHS?

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you very much for all those questions!
Maybe the VHS could be the new vinyl...as an object, definitely, is better than 
a DVD! 


 El Miércoles 15 de julio de 2015 18:10, Francisco Torres 
fjtorre...@gmail.com escribió:
   

 ''VHS is the new vinyl''
2015-07-14 17:27 GMT-04:00 Michael m.g.pig...@warwick.ac.uk:

  Yes you're right, they're rare as standard now - you need to get a specialist 
card like those made by Matrox and Blackmagic.
 
 Michael
 
 On 14/07/2015 22:16, k. a.r. wrote:
  
 Michael wrote A video card with a proper analog out
 
 serious question. Do those really exist anymore?
 I haven't seen an analog video output on a computer, in like 15 years.
 
 Kristie 
 
 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' 
 - - - Issac Asimov 
 
 
 
   
  
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[Frameworks] Digital file to VHS?

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Frameworkers,
I'm writing because i wanted to ask if someone knows some projects related to 
artists video and experimental cinema that use the VHS as the final format.
There's the Monobrow VHS tape production but i don't know anything 
else.http://monobrowvhs.tumblr.com/

And the other thing i would like to ask is: Is it easy to do that? To transfer 
a digital file to a VHS tape? What's the best way to do it?
Thank you very much!

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Re: [Frameworks] sound examples in film + video

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This is one of the best works i'have seen regarding sound.It could be compared 
to the classic I'm sitting in a room by Alvin Lucier:
Mediations by Gary HillMediations (towards a remake of Soundings), 1979/1986

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 El Miércoles 17 de junio de 2015 23:03, Esperanza Collado 
esperanzacolla...@gmail.com escribió:
   

 Hi Matt,
Laida Lertxundi's work fits perfectly what you are looking for. Her films 
emphasize very clearly the differences of diegetic and non-diagetic sound. You 
wont find her films on the internet but if you write her an email im sure she 
will provide access to Vimeo links. You can find her email in her website 
laidalertxundi.com
Best,

El lunes, 15 de junio de 2015, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net escribió:

A classic instance of sound innovation is Bunuel’s L’Age d”Or. When everyone 
else was falling all over themselves to do lip sync, he stages a key dialog as 
mental telepathy.


 On Jun 15, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Dave Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote:

 For Hollywood film, 'Die Hard' ia masterpiece of sound production. The SFX 
 carry a huge amount of information, tone and style, and (naturally) they're 
 all post-production, including lots of Foley. I heard the lead Foley artist 
 give a talk on it as part of an audio-art series many moons ago, and the 
 level of detail was absolutely fascinating. Of course, all the footfalls are 
 walked on a Foley stage, and the Foley artists not only walk in character 
 (how would Hnas walk? how would Mclane?) but select shoes that SOUND like 
 what they imagine the character would wear. Typical of all 'realist' 
 filmmaking, the actual thing does not function to represent itself through 
 the process of mediation — in this case genuine expensive shoes (of the sort 
 Hans would wear, e.g.) don't SOUND expensive, but the artist (a woman) had a 
 pair of old thrift-store-bought shoes that had evoked luxury sonically. The 
 Foley artists have huge kits of 'junk' purchased at thrift stores and auction 
 for their unique sounds — more shoes than Imelda Marcos, each pair have a 
 different sonic character. One of her prized possessions was a massive old 
 padlock that, when dropped, sounds like what we expect a dropped gun to sound 
 like - and when scraped over various other mundane things makes 
 metal-on-metal sounds that work for all kinds of specialized effects — all 
 based on the Foley artist knowing how to use them just so. For example, when 
 the thieves lock-down Nakatomi Plaza, there are sounds of various metal gates 
 coming down, door locking shut, etc. — all shot MOS, with the audio added in 
 post from stuff out of her Foley kit.

 An older classic film with a heavy reliance on audio for storytelling, 
 including defining off-screen space, is 'M' where the plot revolves around a 
 blind man as the only witness to a murder, but who can identify him by ear. 
 As it was made very early in the sound era, Lang and his collaborators were 
 very conscious of using sound as a creative tool, and innovated a lot of 
 devices that became common after that.

 'The Conversation' having already been mentioned, I'll note the audio work on 
 'Apocalypse Now' and 'Rumble Fish' is also brilliant.

 '2001' for the parts WITHOUT the score - especially the scene with Dr. Floyd 
 on the shuttle with a very telling conversation just barely audible in the 
 background.

 'Touch of Evil'... Welles' b/g in radio drama also figures in 'Citizen Kane' 
 of course.

 'The Birds': absent any non-diegetic sound, but with an electronic SFX track 
 on which bernard Hermann served as a consultant.

 Spaghetti westerns, Hong Kong martial arts movies, and other commercial films 
 make explicitly for international audiences do interesting things with 
 dubbing, score and not-very-realistic diagetic SFX and soundscapes...

 The classic exemplar of non-diegetic sound (narration and music) revealed as 
 framing the meaning of images is in Marker's 'Letter From Siberia'.

 Direct cinema documentary typically uses 'tricky' audio editing (J and L 
 cuts) to create the illusion of temporal continuity in sequences where the 
 shots weren't actually contiguous in time (being single camera shoots...) 
 'Primary' has lots of examples if you study the sound track, and think about 
 how the changes in visual perspective DON't correspond to changes in audio 
 perspective at so many points. It was made pre-crystal-sync, using a 
 cable-sync hook-up that didn't work a lot of the time, so there was even more 
 diddling in post to get the 'fly-on-the-wall' illusion.

 For experimental films, the first thing that comes to mind is 'The End', by 
 Maclaine with it's long stretches of narration over black (punctuated by a 
 few poetic SFX) and it's use of vocal performance and music throughout. 
 'Christmas on Earth' has no fixed 

Re: [Frameworks] Andrew Noren

[Albert Alcoz]

Two years ago I was able to watch a copy of his film Charmed Particles at the 
New York Public Library (image attached).Researching their catalogue it seems 
they own three parts of The Adventures of The Exquisite Corps on 16 mm 
copies:Charmed Particles, Imaginary Light and The Lighted 
Field.https://nypl.bibliocommons.com/search?t=smartq=andrew%20norencommit=SearchsearchOpt=catalogue
 
Besides Scott MacDonalds' marvellous interview (thank you Carl for adding that 
passage) there's a link on the Making Light Of It website with some precious 
documents about his 
films:http://making-light-of-it.blogspot.com.es/2012/04/andrew-noren.html
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 El Lunes 25 de Mayo de 2015 21:18, direc...@lift.on.ca 
direc...@lift.on.ca escribió:
   

 The fact that Noren was an archivist by trade gives hope to the fact that
his elements are probably thoughtfully stored somewhere (at least the ones
that weren't destroyed in an early fire, if I remember correctly) and
would be eventually available for preservation.

C

 When I first walked into the Sherman Grinberg Film Library in the old Film
 Center Building at 630 9th Avenue in the fall of 1983, I was quite
 surprised when I was introduced to Andrew Noren, one of the librarians in
 that strange place. I couldn't quite put together my emerging life as a
 business-focused archival film researcher with my past watching
 ag/experimental films under semi-utopian conditions in California, but
 Andrew confirmed that he was indeed the filmmaker whose work had left such
 a strong impression before going into the vaults to pick out a few cans of
 nitrate neg for me to put on the Moviola flatbed. I recall that he pulled
 the Paramount newsreel neg for me showing Fiorello LaGuardia reading the
 comics over the radio during the 1945 newspaper strike. In retrospect I
 can see how working with nitrate in his day job may have influenced his
 sensibility.

 Rick

 Rick Prelinger / @footage
 Prelinger Archives, San Francisco    http://www.prelinger.com
 foot...@panix.com

 Associate Professor, Film  Digital Media, UC Santa Cruz
 r...@ucsc.edu

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Re: [Frameworks] Night films

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello Esperanza,
Here are two more:
Lunar Almanac by Malena Szlamhttps://vimeo.com/122918402

Santuary by Kevin RiceSancturary

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 The Klopfenstein is the one I was trying to remember. The LFMC had a print of 
it long ago. Might be worth asking LUX,

Nicky.
 
 
 
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Peter Mettler, Picture of Light, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110831/combined
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Esperanza Collado 
esperanzacolla...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you all for your superb recommendations.

2015-05-13 17:09 GMT+02:00 fred truniger fred.truni...@gmail.com:

  Hi Esperanza
 Clemens Klopfenstein's Night Films come to my mind: Geschichte der Nacht (to 
be found on ubu); Transes; Das Schlesische Tor.
 These have been shot around 1980 in 16mm entirely at night without any 
additional light.
 Emily Richardson's Petrolia is another random guess.
 cheers, fred
 
 
 Am 13.05.15 um 14:55 schrieb peter snowdon:
  
 Hi Esperanza, 
    At the more documentary end of the experimental spectrum, there is Laura 
Waddington's Border, much of which was shot at night. 
  There are also these four short YT videos which speak, I think, to the 
question of what the night conceals, and what it makes visible (sensible): 
  http://www.mightierthan.com/2009/07/poem-for-the-rooftops-suite/
    best Peter     On Tue, May 12, 2015, at 07:49 PM, Esperanza Collado wrote:
  
 Dear frameworkers,
    A friend is preparing a film in which she will work in the limits of 
visibility, in the night, trying to force perception. Would you please 
recommend experimental film references apart from Liotta, Dorsky, Dwoskin? It 
would be interesting to get references of films and videos in which there is no 
use of special camera techniques such as time-lapse or night-shot. 
    Many thanks!
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[Frameworks] Is there any editing pattern on Critical Mass by Hollis Frampton?

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,
Does anyone know if there's any pattern Hollis Frampton followed to do the 
editing for Critical Mass.
I have read he used three equal copies done after the filming to create the 
editing process, but i haven't found any comments about the pattern or the 
formula used for the montage.
Watching the film one could assumed Frampton followed a random process but i'm 
not sure about it.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
Thank you very much,
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you all very much for those answers, especially Pip Chodorov for 
suggesting that awesome film by Steve Farrer.
There's a PhD dissertation by Michel Puetz named Variable Area: Hearing and 
Seeing Sound where she analyses some of this issues with films like those 
created by Robert Russett:PRESERVATION INSANITY: Neuron (1972) by Robert Russett

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 El Jueves 12 de febrero de 2015 1:14, Douglas eastshorefi...@hotmail.com 
escribió:
   

 Not from the 60s or 70s but Rock Ross has a film Psycho Porpoise that fits 
the bill.
https://www.fandor.com/films/psycho_porpoise


dk




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Synchromy by Norman McLaren is a great example.  He photographed printed cards 
that went both on the sound space and the visual space of the film.  And check 
out all the series of tests he made for similar experiments.  You can find them 
in the DVD box set of his work.

For more recent work:
-Apollo by Tom Nishikawa is great.  He shoots high-contrast pictures on 16mm by 
using a 35mm camera to cover the whole 16mm strip with images.  He has some 
other pinhole films that work on a similar dynamic.

-TB TX Dance by Roger Bebee is also a great piece that ironically synchs visual 
sound with image.


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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:10:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Optical sound - Structural film

Lis Rhodes: Light Music for two projectors facing each other. It's very intense!

Nicky.
 
 
 
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Norman McLaren made several films by animating directly onto the optical 
track.There is even a short documentary of him doing this in the film called 
Pen Point Percussion where they film him working on a film called DotsYou 
can view his work online on the National Film Board website: 
https://www.nfb.ca/explore-all-directors/Norman-McLaren/
Is there a reason that you're keeping it to the 60s and 70s?
I can think of other artists, such Richard Reeves, as well as myself, who have 
done work directly on optical tracks in the last 20 years.
adc



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On 2015-02-11, at 7:02 AM, Peter Mudie wrote:

Rarely discussed, but a fantastic film – one of the best from the 
LFMC.Peter(Perth)
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There's Ten Drawings by Steve Farrer 
(1976)http://lightcone.org/fr/film-477-10-drawings

At 8:46 + 11/02/15, Albert Alcoz wrote:
Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly 
from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?
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[Frameworks] Optical sound – Structural film

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,
Does anybody know structural or structural-materialist or minimal/abstract 
films from the sixties or seventies where the sound of the film comes directly 
from the graphic treatment on the optical sound area of the celluloid?
Kurt Kren drew a line with ink in his film Trees of Autumn (1960) and Guy 
Sherwin shot pictures on the variable area of the soundtrack. Those films were 
collected on the Optical Sound Films (1971-2007) DVD.
I thought the soundtrack of Roh Film (1968) by Birgit  Wilhelm Hein was done 
directly from the collage materials attached on the surface of the emulsion but 
it is not. It was done afterwards, as an autonomous noise piece by Christian 
Michelis. 
I'm thinking about films like Dynamo Dresden (1971) by Lis Rhodes or Soundtrack 
(1969) by Barry Spinello, but they are more abstract animation pieces following 
the visual music tradition than the structural or systemic patterns.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
Thank you very much,
Albert Alcoz-- 
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[Frameworks] Paul Winkler mail

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,
I'm looking for Paul Winkler's email.
Does anyone get it?Or does anyone how can I get in touch with him?
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

[Albert Alcoz]

Here's another good example:

Richard Tuohy, Etienne's Hand (2011)

http://nanolab.com.au/etienne%27s%20hand.htm

https://vimeo.com/21512772



El Jueves 7 de agosto de 2014 13:03, Elena Duque elenadu...@gmail.com 
escribió:
 


Daïchi Saïto's films, specially Trees of Syntax: Leaves of Axis, Never a Foot 
Too Far, Even and All That Rises. He has written about his processes in his 
book Moving the Sleeping Images of Things Towards the Light.
El 07/08/2014 04:40, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu escribió:

In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter Tscherkassky's 
Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short stretches (much of 
it using a laser pointer) rather than optically printed.  He must surely have 
used an optical printer in some of his films (maybe Happy End, for ex.), but 
since the previous poster only dropped his name without specific films, I 
thought it was a point worth clarifying...

R.




 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
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Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera 
matting or A/B/C lab printing. 


Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO optical 
printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and hand-processing.  A 
lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work, then show 7362 as an 
example in both public screenings and classes (sorry Jason!).  Pat's first 
foray into optical printing came approximately two years later in his 
installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS GOOD, etc. after that.



That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the 
medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological tool 
for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in his artful 
and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient and exemplary 
short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching optical printing 
work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as both a notebook of 
incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent, and an unintentional 
compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the optical printer.  But you 
pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's made.


Mark Toscano





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Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing 
work.




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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer


This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Carolyn,


Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing at 
Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest example of 
Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is available for 
purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it was amazing to take 
the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a light table so that 
students could really study how he created his looks. I love Water and Power 
too, and usually saved it until the last class in the semester.

-Jason Halprin


DAILY SCHEDULE
 
Class 01 – January 25th 
Screening:    Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)
 
Class 02- February 1stScreening:   Passage à l'acte (Martin Arnold, 15 
min., 1993)

 
Class 03- February 8thScreening:   Piece Touche (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 
1989) 
         Zocalo (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
    Spitting Image (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)

 
Class 04- February 15thScreeing: 7362 (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
    Roseblood (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)

 
Class 05- February 22nd

Screening:   Watersmith (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)
    Film Wipe Film(Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)
 
Class 06 
Screening:   Wild Gunman (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
    Television Assassination (Bruce Conner, 14 min, 
1964/95)
    Cosmic Ray (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)

 
Class 07- March 8thScreening:   Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin 
Arnold, 15 min, 1998)
    Flicker: Unsteady Motion (Paula Frohele, 7 min, 1995)

 
 
Class 08- March 15thScreening:   Frame (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)
    Vestibule (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)

 
Class 09- March 29thScreening:   Chinese Fire Drill (Will Hindle, 25 
min, 1968)
    Runs Good (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)

 
 
Class 10- April 5thScreening:  

Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

[Albert Alcoz]

It won't be useful for the technical debate around the IMAX projection but in 
2006 I suggested a game to identify the title of the film of a 70mm film strip.
Every player received a postcard with some frames of the film as a gift for his 
or her try. Here's the explanation of it:
http://www.visionaryfilm.net/2006/09/70-mm-of-sara-montiel.html



El Lunes 28 de julio de 2014 22:01, Julian Antos 
jul...@northwestchicagofilmsociety.org escribió:
 


You can theoretically run 5 perf 70mm on IMAX projectors, though I certainly 
wouldn't do it with anything precious (and pretty much all 70mm is precious 
these days) ... it would be a fun experiment though, you'll just get three 
frames at a time rotated 90 degrees running three times as fast as they should. 
Likewise I often use junk IMAX film as regular 70mm leader since the frame 
lines match up. 



On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu wrote:

But Jodie's film is just regular 8 perf 70mm, right, not 70/15 perf (Imax), 
which was the original question?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that...

?
R.




 
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Herb  Ekram,


Jodie Mack and Danielle Ash did make a 70mm direct animation film that I 
believe was commissioned by Orphans it was documented on video and posted 
on Jodie's vimeo page here:  http://vimeo.com/57294787


Warren 




On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Herb Shellenberger he...@ihphilly.org wrote:

Hey Ekrem, 
 
I’m not seeing it on the online program 
(http://www.nyu.edu/orphanfilm/orphans8/ ) but I’m fairly certain Jodie Mack, 
possibly in collaboration with another artist, showed a 70mm direct animation 
film at the 8th Orphan Film Symposium in 2012. It was my understanding that 
it was an original and I think it was a last minute addition to the program, 
in light of it being held at the Museum of the Moving Image which has 70mm 
capability. It must have been an original and not a print. 
 
Hope someone else can back up my statement which I’m almost certain was not 
some sort of elaborate nerd-dream. 
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Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be 
probably direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I 
highly doubt it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That 
said, I also don't know how the machine would handle any direct originals to 
begin with. Probably fine... but also probably something worth checking.
 
Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned 70mm 
can be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to, fresh 
leader is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show IMAX 
still throw their trailers out from what I understand (for scavenging), and 
you occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a possibility too...
 
Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I just 
learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is apparently 
doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might be a nice 
send off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested too). That 
said, it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it, though considering 
how much space it takes up, I presume they will... but, as said before, all 
very tentative and under investigation.

In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it, have 
some laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and so on, 
be in touch.
 
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu wrote:
Ekrem,

Here’s the only one I know of:

http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html

Always thought it’d be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a bunch 
of direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission a 
program rather than just curate it?

Good luck,
R.

On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Framers,

   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening 
 with an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk 
 have played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As 
 said, it's very tentative, and I'm sure
 there's only a small bunch of you if any, but if you have, be in touch.

  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work 

Re: [Frameworks] Moon movies?

[Albert Alcoz]

Moon Play (1961) by Marie Menken
http://films.arsenal-berlin.de/index.php/Detail/Object/Show/object_id/3176


Rabbit's Moon (1950) by Kenneth ANger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHlneSpOknU


Moonbird (1959) by Faith and John Hubley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTgma3KJuSw



El Domingo 20 de julio de 2014 23:45, Jeff Kreines jeffkrei...@gmail.com 
escribió:
 


And for a 70’s paranoid junk-movie take on the moon landing, there’s Capricorn 
One.  A guilty pleasure — if not quite as paranoid as, say, Parallax View.

Elliott Gould, Karen Black, O.J. Simpson, and many others.




Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
j...@kinetta.com
kinetta.com




On Jul 20, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu wrote:

An excerpt of mine (but there are stars  sun c. in addition to the moon): 

https://vimeo.com/35062965


Also, Jeanne Liotta’s twofer, the world-beating Observando El Cielo and 
Eclipse, which is, of course, sun+moon, but is wonderful especially when PLAYED 
LOUD.

…
R.



On Jul 20, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Michael Betancourt hinterland.mov...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Since it's the 45 anniversay of the Apollo 11 Moon landing, I'm in the mood for 
Moon movies. 


Here's mine: http://www.cinegraphic.net/article.php?story=2014071907094117


Any more to suggest?


Michael Betancourt
Savannah, GA USA


michaelbetancourt.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Islands in experimental film and video

[Albert Alcoz]

They're not recent at all, but they are awesome, anyway:

La isla de las flores (1988) Jorge Furtado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIeU7_yqrpc


La sufrière (1977) Werner Herzog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Ok-KFUTSU



El Lunes 23 de junio de 2014 11:18, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net 
nicky.ham...@talktalk.net escribió:
 


Island Race is filmed on the Isle of Dogs, a bend in an old docks area of the 
River Thames in east London. It is technically an island as there are canals 
across the bend at its northern edge,

Nicky.




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GB is an island:
William Raban: Island Race 
andrew koetting: Gallivant: http://bfi.muvies.com/reviews/1485-gallivant


if you take into account more metaphoric islands you might also consider two 
animation films:
w  c lauenstein: Balance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-flKGPW9QCwfeature=kp
Konstantin Bronzit: Au bout du monde: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-tcJPIMwhk

cheers!
fred



Am 22.06.2014 um 23:31 schrieb Pigott, Michael:

Dear Frameworkers,
 
I'm putting together a piece about the use of islands as locations in recent 
experimental film and video. I'm focussing on Ben Rivers' Slow Action and 
Simon Faithfull's Stromness. I am building a list of other work that involves 
islands at the moment, and I would be very grateful for your suggestions of 
other experimental and artists' work (recent or historical) that are about 
islands or use islands as locations.
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Michael Pigott
 
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[Frameworks] Collective found footage films

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

I was wondering if someone can named some found footage films created by 
different people, as a collective project with autonomous sequences. I have 
been wondering about it but i can't find any film. Maybe there are some 
lettrism films that could be considered collective film with recycled images...

Any suggestion?

Thank you,

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Re: [Frameworks] Collective found footage films

[Albert Alcoz]

Thank you very much for the suggestion. I was thinking more about found footage 
films created by different filmmakers as a sum of independent parts. I mean 
different artists working for the same film through recycled images. Somehow 
Matthias Müller  Christoph Girardet and Eric Fleischauer  Jason Lazarus could 
be useful, but i was thinking more about four or five or dozens of filmmakers 
working for the same purpose. 


Francisco, do you recommend any of those exquisite corpses?

Thanks again!


El Domingo 4 de Mayo de 2014 18:54, Kelly Gallagher ke...@purpleriot.com 
escribió:
 
Hi Albert,
My friend Health Schultz works a LOT in situationist film. He made a re-make of 
Debord's Society of the Spectacle ( https://vimeo.com/60328678 ) and from his 
vimeo you can find a version that he cleaned up of Vienet's amazing film Can 
Dialectics Break Bricks? ( https://vimeo.com/60948078 ). He has compiled a 
whole site of Situationist/ Lettrist films and film resources. Perhaps you will 
find some of this useful-- http://situationistfilm.wordpress.com/
Best of luck,
Kelly Gallagher
www.purpleriot.com








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serving Independent Filmmakers  Artists
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On May 4, 2014, at 6:22 AM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:


hm


https://www.google.com.pr/search?q=exquisite+corpseoq=exquisite+aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.5401j0j8sourceid=chromees_sm=93ie=UTF-8#q=exquisite+corpse+found+footage




On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Albert Alcoz albertalc...@yahoo.es wrote:

Hello,


I was wondering if someone can named some found footage films created by 
different people, as a collective project with autonomous sequences. I have 
been wondering about it but i can't find any film. Maybe there are some 
lettrism films that could be considered collective film with recycled 
images...


Any suggestion?


Thank you,


Albert Alcoz
http://www.visionaryfilm.net/



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Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film

[Albert Alcoz]

Jean Painlevé Films
Little Dog For Roger and Berlin Horse by Malcolm LeGrice,

and what about things like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4

El Jueves 24 de abril de 2014 11:04, sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie 
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Thanks Shelly!





 From: Shelly Silver silver...@earthlink.net
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Sent: Thursday, 24 April 2014, 4:04:44
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film
 


Kathy high. Animal attraction

Sent from my phone

On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net wrote:


Here's a sampling of animation featuring animals in some way:  Wendy Tilby and 
Amanda Forbis' When the Day Breaks, Caroline Leaf's The Owl Who Married a 
Goose, my own Wanda, Iain Gardner's films, Aardman's Creature Comforts, Yuri 
Norstein's films, Alison deVere's Black Dog, Dennis Tupicoff's Darra Dogs, Igor 
Kovalyov's Hen His Wife, Sara Petty's Furies, Joanna Quinn's Britannia, Paul 
Fierlinger's Still Life with Animated DOgs, Alexander Petrov's The Cow, Run 
Wrake's Rabbit, three versions of Little Red Riding Hood: Piotr Dumala's Little 
Black Riding Hood, Tex Avery's Red Hot Riding Hood and Fleischer's Dizzy Red 
Riding Hood.


Ruth Hayes

http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:05 AM, sarah browne wrote:

Dear Frameworkers,


I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals 
or human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries 
(with some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a 
kind of distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human 
behaviours (ethics, empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material 
more than Babe.



Any tips very gratefully received!


Best wishes,


Sarah Browne
 
www.sarahbrowne.info
www.kennedybrowne.com


Hand to Mouth

CCA Derry-Londonderry

until 24 May 2014

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[Frameworks] Robert Russett: Primary Stimulus (1977)

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

Does anyone know where can I rent a copy of the film Primary Stimulus (1977) by 
Robert Russett on 16mm?

On the webpage by the Academy Film Archive I don't see any reference.

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