Re: [Frameworks] how many versions of Bruce Conner's Report?

[Herb Shellenberger]

Eight.

"*Report* was actually shown in eight different versions – all of equal
duration and with the same soundtrack – after its initial premiere at the
Harvard Film Society in 1964. The final version – after which the previous
iterations were destroyed, if they hadn’t already been obliterated in the
process of revision – was not completed until 1967. "
http://sensesofcinema.com/2009/cteq/report/

Depending on when collections acquired the film it could be different. I've
wanted for a while to do a screening of as many prints of the film as
possible, a report on *Report*. But that might end up being not too
interesting in the end.

-h

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:07 PM, John Muse  wrote:

> Having just screened a 16mm print of Report rented from Michelle Silva and
> the Conner Family Trust and having watched the version up at UBU several
> times http://ubu.com/film/conner_report.html I am surprised when I read a
> 1966 review of Report by Robert Mosen (Film Quarterly, Vol. 19, No. 3,
> Spring, 1966, pp. 54-56) who describes the film this way:
>
> > Conner opens Report with several minutes of a printed film loop of
> Jackie and Caroline as they approach, kneel at, and walk away from
> Kennedy's coffin which is lying in state.
>
> And then:
>
> > We go through a few loops before the sound track begins. It is a radio
> newscast of the five minutes of routine Dallas motorcade that preceded the
> assassination.
>
>
> Finally:
>
> > What follows the film loop and occupies the remaining ten minutes of the
> film can only be described as a tour de force of implicational montage. The
> image is a constant shuffle of several groups of footage. The first thing
> we see is a close-up of matador and bull in the thick of battle.
>
>
> This sounds like a different film.  How many versions were there?  What
> would Mosen likely have seen?
>
> Thanks.
>
> j/PrM
>
> *
>
> john muse
> visiting assistant professor of independent college programs
> haverford college
> http://www.finleymuse.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Fuses: projection speed?

[Herb Shellenberger]

Thanks for that Jon, it's good to hear what Carolee has said most recently.
I've screened this twice on 24fps and I had thought that the new master of
it was meant to be shown that way (doesn't it say 24 on the can from
Film-Makers' Coop?). A recent screening in London gave me a little panic
because I thought the images looked too fast in the beginning. But we kept
it at 24fps and after my initial doubt it looked great.


On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Christopher Ball  wrote:

> The standard is 40 feet per minute for 16mm and 90 feet per minute for
> 35mm at 24fps.
>
> Christopher
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Francisco Torres  > wrote:
>
>> http://www.caroleeschneemann.com/fuses.html
>>
>> it says running time 18 minutes so if the film measures x amount of feet
>> it can be calculated at what speed to project right? 24fps seems more
>> likely.
>>
>> 2016-02-02 17:27 GMT-04:00 John Muse > >:
>>
>>> Hive Mind!  So tomorrow at Haveford College we're doing this thing:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/1070809686314585
>>>
>>> We can't seem to get a clear and definitive answer on the projection
>>> speed of Carolee Schneemann's Fuses.  Canyon doesn't know for sure, but
>>> helpfully provided this:
>>>
>>> >>> Anthology screens Fuses at 18fps, but acknowledges that it's
>>> difficult to
>>> >>> be sure with Schneemann's films. I've done a bit of digging on our
>>> end
>>> >>> and it seems like Canyon, at least since the printing of the last
>>> >>> catalogue, has given instructions to screen the prints we hold at
>>> 24fps.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a story to tell?  Advice to give?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> *
>>>
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>>> visiting assistant professor of independent college programs
>>> haverford college
>>> http://www.finleymuse.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Shower scenes...

[Herb Shellenberger]

There's a film I haven't been able to locate by Laird Sutton called James,
apparently a five minute film of James Broughton being lovingly bathed.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> I am surprised that of mainstream films nobdy has mentioned either Psycho
> or M*A*S*H.
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental film/video from COLUMBIA S.A.?

[Herb Shellenberger]

Jesse, thanks very much for the link to the current home of the La
Diferencia films. Some of them have made it over to YouTube and I was
trying to chase down info on the organization but their website is no
longer active. Lots to see there, especially some of the interesting films
by Luis Ernesto Arocha. By the way, there's a 16mm print of Arocha's Las
Ventanas de Salcedo at the Film-Makers' Coop.

As mentioned before, Luis Ospina is a figure to look into. There was a
weekend of screenings with Ospina in person November 2014 at Tate Modern.
You can hear the discussion with curator George Clark on their site:
http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-modern/eventseries/luis-ospina-and-grupo-de-cali

and the program notes can be accessed here:
http://www.tate.org.uk/download/file/fid/44537

-h

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen 
wrote:

> Hey David,
>>
>> If ex-pats count, one half of Ojoboca (Juan David González Monroy) is
>> from Colombia, currently working in Berlin. Their film Gente Perra (2014)
>> is based in part on a story by a Colombian author and makes reference to
>> aspects of the culture there particularly regarding European colonization
>> of South America. Might fit the bill if you're not limited to a strictly
>> historical program.
>>
>> Best,
>> R
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Caroline Gil 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>> To add to the list of suggestions, *La Langosta Azul *(
>>> https://youtu.be/lYfGQ-jw-TI) would be a great addition. All of Luis
>>> Ospina and Carlos Mayolo’s work is fantastic, in particular their amazing
>>> documentary on writer Andrés Caicedo; *Unos pocos buenos amigos* (
>>> https://youtu.be/hmPyyIw7rCM). Víctor Gaviria has made some interesting
>>> fiction work, *El Vagón Rojo *comes to mind. As well as Jorge Silva and
>>> Marta Rodríguez, their most well-know documentary is called *Chircales.
>>> *Artists to consider on the videtart front would be Rodrigo Castaño,
>>> Sandra Isabel Llano, Gilles Charalambos.
>>> You could expand on your search with these organizations:
>>> http://www.bibliotecanacional.gov.co/content/cine-experimental
>>> http://www.patrimoniofilmico.org.co/anterior/index1.htm
>>> http://www.proimagenescolombia.com/index.php
>>>
>>> Good luck on your search!
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:49 PM, FCO. JAVIER HURTADO MOMPEO 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> one of the most experimental "classic" colombian films its called
>>> "Agarrando pueblo" directed by Carlos Mayolo and Luis Ospina. Luis Ospina
>>> is still alive. Marta Rodriguez (anthropologist and filmmaker, still alive
>>> too) on the other hand is another key figure in the documentary engaged in
>>> social (indigenous) issues.
>>>
>>>
>>> *De:* FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] en nom de
>>> David Sherman [davidgatessher...@gmail.com]
>>> *Enviat el:* diumenge, 27 / desembre / 2015 21:01
>>> *Per a:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>>> *Tema:* [Frameworks] Experimental film/video from COLUMBIA S.A.?
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> We have a young video artist from Columbia S.A.  visiting Exploded View
>>> in a couple of weeks and I was looking for any recommendations of any works
>>> (are there any classics?) of Columbian experimental film/video that we
>>> might show to round out the bill. I am unfamiliar with works from here and
>>> searching for "Columbia and experimental film" ends up w/ a million links
>>> Columbia College & Columbia University and the other N.A Columbias...
>>>
>>>
>>> I did find this organization http://cineautopsia.com/ , but wanted any
>>> Frameworks recommendations if they exist.
>>>
>>> Best New Years wishes from Exploded View,
>>> David
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Women working in Expanded Cinema

[herb shellenberger]

Late pass but two not mentioned:

Screen Bandita (whose members are now scattered in Edinburgh-London and
Australia) http://www.screenbandita.org

Rose Kallal (NYC) https://vimeo.com/user7961588

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 On 2015-03-21, at 1:48 PM, Kenneth Linehan wrote:

  I'd recommend adding Brittany Gravely  Tara Nelson to your list. Both
 working of film  in expanded cinema context.
 
 
  On Mar 20, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Alex Balkam blueswingingd...@gmail.com
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  Hello Frameworks,
 
  At the Atlantic Filmmakers Cooperative where I work we are interested
 in inviting women working in the Expanded Cinema realm to join us as
 Visiting Artists for an Expanded Cinema program we are hoping to develop.
 
  I was interested to know if anyone on the list would like to recommend
 practicing Expanded Cinema artists, ideally women who work in the practice.
 We are primarily interested in artists working with celluloid film, as
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Re: [Frameworks] Women working in Expanded Cinema

[herb shellenberger]

Probably should have been a comma. Heightened tensions on FW today.

(joke for joke)

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:11 PM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:

 There are 413 miles between Edinburgh and London. They are even in
 different countries, as recent events have highlighted!

 Nicky.



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  Late pass but two not mentioned:

  Screen Bandita (whose members are now scattered in Edinburgh-London and
 Australia) http://www.screenbandita.org

  Rose Kallal (NYC) https://vimeo.com/user7961588

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 On 2015-03-21, at 1:48 PM, Kenneth Linehan wrote:

  I'd recommend adding Brittany Gravely  Tara Nelson to your list. Both
 working of film  in expanded cinema context.
 
 
  On Mar 20, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Alex Balkam blueswingingd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Frameworks,
 
  At the Atlantic Filmmakers Cooperative where I work we are interested
 in inviting women working in the Expanded Cinema realm to join us as
 Visiting Artists for an Expanded Cinema program we are hoping to develop.
 
  I was interested to know if anyone on the list would like to recommend
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Re: [Frameworks] Films on nuclear energy, The Cold War, utopia

[herb shellenberger]

Many thanks!

-h

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Dave Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote:

  -utopia

 Sins of the Fleshapoids, and of course, Zardoz.


  -nuclear energy/war
  -The Cold War

 Cristopher Maclaine: The End (essential)
 Lots of Conner besides Crossroads: A Movie; Cosmic Ray; America is
 Waiting; Report
 Craig Baldwin: Wild Gunman, RocketKitKongoKit, Tribulation 99, ¡O No
 Coronado!
 Paul Sharits: Peace Mandala
 Brakhage: 23rd Psalm Branch

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[Frameworks] Films on nuclear energy, The Cold War, utopia

[herb shellenberger]

Hello Frameworkers,


I'm looking for suggestions of artist films/videos having to do with any of
the following themes:
-alternative energy
-utopia
-nuclear energy/war
-The Cold War


A couple I've come up with that might fit these themes in some way:
Crossroads (Bruce Conner, 1976)
23 Skidoo (Julian Biggs, NFB, 1964)
The Lonely Shore (Ken Russell, BBC Monitor, 1962)


Thanks for any help!

Best,
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Re: [Frameworks] tableau vivante : experimental film and single frames

[herb shellenberger]

Rebekka,

While not always associated with experimental film, though there is a
distinct aesthetic overlap, the films of Sergei Parajanov would be good to
look at if you're not already thinking of them. The Color of Pomegranates
uses the tableau vivant extensively (as do the rushes for this film,
completely separate footage four hours in duration that was broadcast on
Italian TV and is findable on some torrent sites), as well his films The
Legend of Suram Fortress and Ashik Kerib. Parajanov was influenced by
visual arts so it might not be exactly the focus you are looking for.

Best,
Herb

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 wrote:

 Hi,

 I am researching a project of the use of the Tableau Vivant in
 experimental or avant-garde filmmaking (history, theory, etc).
 I am particularly interested in any examples of filmmakers that were
 investigating the tableau vivant as a reference to a film frame and not to
 a painting.
 Also any sub themes that may relate to tableau vivant as a durational film
 frame or living freeze frame, or a tableau vivant as a non-active
 scene/image shot stop motion or frame by frame (in camera or optical
 printed).

 Any suggestions for readings or names would be greatly appreciated!

 best,
 Rebekka




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Re: [Frameworks] Print Search

[Herb Shellenberger]

Stuart Comer presented Steven Arnold's The Liberation of Mannique Mechanique at 
the Tate in 2010, but on DVD. 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/secretcinema/conversations/topics/690

Arnold's feature Luminous Procuress was distributed by New Line in the 1970s on 
16mm. This document states that the Walker Art Center and Pacific Film Archive 
have begun preservation on it. Worth checking into.
http://www.fiafnet.org/pdf/AR2013/2013_Berkeley.pdf

I was also going to suggest getting in touch with the Steven Arnold Archive, 
though I would be very (happily!) surprised if they had any prints available 
for loan. Their SD transfers seem to be of good quality. They no doubt approved 
the screening of Luminous Procuress that happened at the Spectacle microcinema 
in Brooklyn last month.
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Print Search

Hey Stephen,

I once contacted Micheal Wiese about 2 years ago, also in search of Messages, 
Messages. He directed me to the Steven Arnold Archive 
(http://stevenarnoldarchive.com/), no doubt you already tried that.

I can't remember how I found him, but likely it was through his book 
company---Michael Wiese Books (of Save The Cat fame). His email address is 
somewhere on his site (http://www.mwp.com/), so take a look. He said he didn't 
have prints, but it is worth an ask.

Christian
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 Hello:

 I am looking for prints of Messages Messages directed by Steven Arnold and 
 Michael Wiese
 and anything else produced by Steven Arnold.








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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

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Hey Ekrem,

I'm not seeing it on the online program 
(http://www.nyu.edu/orphanfilm/orphans8/ ) but I'm fairly certain Jodie Mack, 
possibly in collaboration with another artist, showed a 70mm direct animation 
film at the 8th Orphan Film Symposium in 2012. It was my understanding that it 
was an original and I think it was a last minute addition to the program, in 
light of it being held at the Museum of the Moving Image which has 70mm 
capability. It must have been an original and not a print.

Hope someone else can back up my statement which I'm almost certain was not 
some sort of elaborate nerd-dream.
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Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be probably 
direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I highly doubt 
it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That said, I also don't 
know how the machine would handle any direct originals to begin with. Probably 
fine... but also probably something worth checking.

Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned 70mm can 
be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to, fresh leader 
is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show IMAX still throw 
their trailers out from what I understand (for scavenging), and you 
occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a possibility too...

Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I just 
learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is apparently 
doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might be a nice send 
off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested too). That said, 
it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it, though considering how 
much space it takes up, I presume they will... but, as said before, all very 
tentative and under investigation.

In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it, have some 
laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and so on, be in 
touch.

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W. 
beebe...@osu.edumailto:beebe...@osu.edu wrote:
Ekrem,

Here's the only one I know of:

http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html

Always thought it'd be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a bunch of 
direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission a program 
rather than just curate it?

Good luck,
R.

On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar 
ekremser...@gmail.commailto:ekremser...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Framers,

   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening with 
 an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk have 
 played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As said, it's 
 very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you if any, but if 
 you have, be in touch.

  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!) - I 
 presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs, etc? 
 Not sure, feel free to correct me.)



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Re: [Frameworks] 'Organism' by Hilary Harris

[Herb Shellenberger]

Marcos,

Have you checked with Chicago Filmmakers? Looks like they have one available. 
http://www.chicagofilmmakers.org/cf/sites/default/files/file/PDF%20documents/CFDistProjName.pdf

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Subject: [Frameworks] 'Organism' by Hilary Harris

Dear Frameworkers

Any clue to who where I could find a print of 'Organism' by Hilary Harris?
None of the main avant-garde distributors seems to have it in their catalogues 
: LUX has 'Nine variations...' but nothing else by him, and Google doesn't 
provide any significant results.

Thanks,

Marcos Ortega

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Re: [Frameworks] Modern 16mm features, distributed on film

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Let's just say $7000 USD to make two prints, adding up the above costs and 
having someone cut your neg...

In the face of this, Roger’s suggestion to project originals doesn’t sound too 
crazy. It obviously wouldn’t be a practice suitable for all kinds of work but 
might be interesting to infuse experimental cinema, separate from moving image 
performance, with a sense of immediacy, improvisation and impermanence via this 
practice.

It’s a different topic but it would be also interesting to discuss artists who 
have projected originals in a cinema setting (Jack Smith, Nathaniel Dorsky and 
Jerome Hiler, Fred Camper’s SN, Luther Price), their varying motivations and 
the longevity—or lack thereof—of this work.
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On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:08 PM, John Woods 
jawood...@yahoo.camailto:jawood...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Alain, while I'm primarily interested in experimental or artists films, I'd 
open up to mainstream films too. I'm more broadly interested in the state of 
16mm film as an exhibition format and not necessarily experimental. If 
Spielberg decided to distribute his latest on 16mm, then that would count. I 
guess I'm biased in my thinking that a 16mm print nowadays is an indulgence for 
the creator and few mainstream filmmakers are going to convince their 
distributor to pick up the bill for the print.


70 minutes x 36ft/min = 2520 feet

Optical Track .60/ft x 2520 = $1512 + shipping

Answer Print 1.00/ft x 2520 = $2520 + shipping

Release Print .70/ft x 2520 = $1764 + shipping

Subtotal $5796

Cut your own neg, or add the cost of that as well ($5 per cut). Let say 100 
cuts for a nice round number multiplied by an
A roll and B roll... $1000 + shipping. Neg cutting will get more expensive as 
black leader is becoming more expensive. One
can A roll, and/or cut their own neg to save cost, but there's still going to 
be a cost to cutting neg given the supplies needed to cut neg.

Let's just say $7000 USD to make two prints, adding up the above costs and 
having someone cut your neg...

A common art theater rental rate in the US is $250 or a certain percentage of 
the door whichever is greater. Let's assume
$250 is better than the percentage. Book 30 screenings and you've made $7500, 
covering your lab cost for making prints. That's assuming you didn't travel to 
any of these screenings... and assuming each theater agreed to pay the $250 
rental + shipping (both ways)!

The film coops and artist-run labs can bring some of these costs down... indeed 
it might be the only way one can consider going this route, but then you have 
the issue of 16mm projection




That surf film sounds pretty interesting. A throwback to the days of Warren 
Miller touring his films. The ski/surf/skate genre is in away similar to 
experimental film. Its a niche audience of practitioners and the films are 
plot-less compositions of beautiful visuals.


I met a guy (this was probably 20 years ago) who was shooting backcountry 
snowboard films on a Bolex in the British Columbia backcountry. His footage was 
very nice, though I've always had a difficult time with this style of making, 
as it's usually is a bunch of shots cut to music. I'd prefer an 
ambient/location track of some kind, even a non-sync constructed one. I always 
found these films (ski/snowboard/surf/skate) to be more akin to music videos 
than experimental films. But still, there are certainly some 
crossover/similarities, so I would agree with your comment above.




I know it was shot on 16mm, but is Jodie Mack's Dusty Stacks of Mom available 
on 16mm? Thats about 40 minutes.


Pam asked the same question, perhaps Jodie can answer as I don't know.


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Re: [Frameworks] Contact info for Constance Beeson

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The prints are at Canyon. Some are in better condition than others.
http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/filmmaker/?i=33

I doubt they rent much but they are very fascinating films. There are a few 
other films by Beeson that aren’t available from Canyon but may still be in 
some library collections. I showed two of her films in my program “Radical Sex 
Education Films from San Francisco’s Multi-Media Resource Center” this January 
at International House Philadelphia, part of the larger exhibition Free to 
Love: The Cinema of the Sexual Revolution.
http://ihousephilly.org/calendar/radical-sex-education-films-from-san-francisco-s-multi-media-resource-center

Also of note, there is an article of the same name (“Radical Sex Education 
Films…”) I wrote for the catalog of the series, which features essays by Eric 
Schaefer, Elena Gorfinkel, Whitney Strub, J Hoberman and a conversational 
between A.L. Steiner, A.K. Burns, M.M. Serra and Barbara Hammer. There’s also a 
DVD with three short films shown in the series. My colleague Jesse Pires put 
together the whole series and it was excellent.
http://www.amazon.com/Free-Love-Cinema-Sexual-Revolution/dp/0615934528/
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Hi Dominic,

Where are those prints--are they available?

Scott
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Coni passed away several years ago. I was able to get all her 16mm prints from 
her family and almost was able to get her equipment until they ceased 
communicating.

Dominic

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Hello:

Might anyone out there have a phone and/or email contact for filmmaker 
Constance Beeson?







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Re: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film

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Elegia (Zoltan Huszarik, 1965, Hungary, warning: animal death)
Gibralter (Margaret Salmon, 2013, UK)
Birds at Sunrise (Joyce Wieland, 1986, Canada)
Una Furtiva Lagrima (Carlo Vogele, 2012, US)
Proxyhawks (Jack Darcus, 1971, Canada)
Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974, US)
Kes (Ken Loach, 1969, UK)
Compound Eyes series by Paul Clipson (2011, US)

Plenty Chris Marker films/videos

And how about some early cinema like:
Boxing Kangaroo (Max Skladanowsky, 1895, Germany)
Falling Cat (Etienne-Jules Marey, 1890, France)
Edison Boxing Cats (Dickson, 1894, US)

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Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:05 AM
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Subject: [Frameworks] animals and human-animal relationships on film

Dear Frameworkers,

I'm looking for some help in compiling a list of films that feature animals or 
human-animal relationships on film. Rather than wildlife documentaries (with 
some exceptions!) I'm more interested in the animal presence as an a kind of 
distancing tactic that allows for reflection on inter-human behaviours (ethics, 
empathy, violence). Arthouse or experimental material more than Babe.

Any tips very gratefully received!

Best wishes,

Sarah Browne

www.sarahbrowne.infohttp://www.sarahbrowne.info
www.kennedybrowne.comhttp://www.kennedybrowne.com

Hand to Mouth
CCA Derry-Londonderry
until 24 May 2014

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Re: [Frameworks] Searchable Screenplays?

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www.subzin.com

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Subject: [Frameworks] Searchable Screenplays?

Hey Folks,
Does anyone know of any good databases of searchable screenplays or transcripts 
of Hollywood films? Maybe even searchable subtitles? I'm looking to find 
particular films where certain phrases occur, so any recommendations are 
appreciated.
Peace,
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Re: [Frameworks] Paul Sharits multi-projection question

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What Peter said. Version B was accomplished at a screening here with 
relatively little difficulty a few years ago just by tilting the projectors, 
which were running in the middle of the stadium seating, rather than from the 
booth, to the side a little at timed intervals. The instructions give the 
times. I believe the keystoning was pretty minor, but that's not the point 
anyway. Seeing the gradually overlapping images was really interesting, 
especially when they were fully on top of each other. Peter Kubelka's Monument 
Film screening at NYFF 2012 also used the technique of projecting flicker films 
directly on top of each other.

As to Ekrem's original question, I don't have anything to add unfortunately.
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Andy - you slowly move the left projector to the right and the right projector 
to the left until the frames align as one.
Peter
(Perth)

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Dear Ekrem,

I rented and showed Shutter Interface to my students last fall, and will do so 
again in a few months. In preparation, I talked to some folks who have also 
taught the film (hi Jeanne Liotta!) and went looking through all the Sharits 
writings I could find for any reference to the difference between gallery and 
theater versions, but found very little on this. I have the same rationale - he 
made the two-projector version and it remains rentable, so I rent it and show 
it. It's a super-accessible work.

A couple of things - the written instructions you get from Film Coop inside the 
film can are ambiguous. Use version A. Version B mentions the effect of 
making the two frames slowly merge on screen - but gives no instructions for 
how to accomplish this. (Maybe someone here can clarify?) And the soundtrack 
needs some extra care, since each projector will have its own sound. So if you 
are running it through the house PA, you will need to configure the channels so 
it's stereo sound, not mono. I couldn't access the house PA for this, so my 
solution was to bring two powered monitor speakers of my own, and run 1/4 out 
from each Eiki projector to its corresponding speaker. More work, but as you 
know that's what you're getting into with expanded cinema anyway. By the way, 
the sound happens only on the black frames. If you know that as you're watching 
the work, it's even cooler.

It's a fantastic projection experience and we all loved it. I left some room 
behind the projectors for the students to go and observe the color frames as 
they moved through the projector. If you can see that as you observe the 
screen, there's no more spectacular lesson in the nature of film projection 
(that is, the conversion of still frames to motion).

Andy Ditzler
www.filmlove.orghttp://www.filmlove.org
www.johnq.orghttp://www.johnq.org
Graduate Institute of the Liberal Arts, Emory University

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Ekrem Serdar 
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Heyya Framers,

  So based on his notes, it seems that many of Paul Sharits' multi-projector 
pieces (Shutter Interface, Dream Displacement, among others) are primarily 
conceived as installations. However, as many of you know, there are also 
theatrical versions of these films, using two projectors instead of four, and 
foregoing other alterations to the machines. (There's a bunch of these over at 
Filmmakers Coop.)

The question: Would you say its correct that Sharits made these black box 
versions to simply give the films an expanded (hoho) life, especially during a 
time period when film projection was a rarer sight in galleries? So not 
necessarily the intended version, but a different (and obviously more 
accessible) way to showcase his ideas.

I hear this might be a sensitive subject; but the way I see it is that he did 
make the prints, and as long as it's presented appropriately no problem. We'll 
be showing the two-projector version of Shutter Interface in Austin next week 
(which i had the pleasure of seeing at Hallwalls some years back), so just 
preparing.

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Re: [Frameworks] banned films?

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Alice Ann Parker's Near the Big Chakra http://aliceanneparker.com/movie-uproar/

Barbara Rubin's Christmas on Earth (After a handful of screenings in the mid- 
to late- 1960′s, Christmas On Earth remained unseen for years as per Rubin’s 
instructions for the film to be destroyed. Luckily, Mekas did not follow 
through on Rubin’s request, as she later changed her mind and allowed him to 
screen and distribute the film.)

Robert Frank's Cocksucker Blues

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Subject: [Frameworks] banned films?

Hi friends, I'm looking for ideas for a banned films program for a local 
(Austin) erotica-based film festival. Flaming Creatures is definitely top of 
the list. Any ideas for other films that have been banned, censored or 
otherwise disparaged for risque content? 
(experimental preferred)

thanks,
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about painting as action/gesture

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Thanks everyone for your suggestions, they are a big help. This is for a 
project I'll be working on this summer, so I'll be sure to inform the list of 
the results.
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films about painting as action/gesture

someone else mentioned Sam Francis by Jeffrey Perkins. He took 16 years or more 
to make the film and has a lot of amazing footage of Francis painting

On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Stephen Broomer 
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Herb,

A couple of examples from Canada:

Jack Chambers' R-34 (1967). This is Chambers' film of the neo-Dada collagist 
and painter Greg Curnoe, which mixes footage of Curnoe at work in his studio 
with scenes from his daily life and his community in London, Ontario; Chambers' 
editing mirrors Curnoe's collage aesthetics. http://www.cfmdc.org/node/1126

Jaimz Asmundson's The Magus (2011), about his father C. Graham Asmundson, very 
much concerned with the action of painting - https://vimeo.com/18862721

SB

On 2014-03-11, at 11:32 AM, Anna Swanson 
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Kim Beom, Yellow Scream! It's fantastic, and sounds like it's exactly what 
you're looking for - it is predicated on gesture (vocal as well as physical). 
Saw it at the Walker a year or so ago!

http://blogs.walkerart.org/visualarts/2012/12/06/now-streaming-kim-beoms-yellow-scream-2012/


Best,
Anna

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Subject: [Frameworks] Films about painting as action/gesture
Hello all,

Here is something I've been thinking about lately: films/videos that show the 
action of someone painting. For my project, I'm not really interested in docs 
about painters discussing their work and their philosophies, but rather films 
or documentation of artists in the act of putting paint to canvas, no 
matter how unconventional or abstract. Some mixture of discussion and activity 
is fine, but the emphasis should be on the action.

I'm thinking about things like the film documentation of Yves Klein's 
Anthropometries painting-performances or John Baldessari's Six Colorful Inside 
Jobs, for example.

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Hello all,

Here is something I've been thinking about lately: films/videos that show the 
action of someone painting. For my project, I'm not really interested in docs 
about painters discussing their work and their philosophies, but rather films 
or documentation of artists in the act of putting paint to canvas, no 
matter how unconventional or abstract. Some mixture of discussion and activity 
is fine, but the emphasis should be on the action.

I'm thinking about things like the film documentation of Yves Klein's 
Anthropometries painting-performances or John Baldessari's Six Colorful Inside 
Jobs, for example.

Thanks in advance for any help!
Herb Shellenberger
Programs Office Manager
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Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits

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I second the recommendation for Marie Losier’s films and Gerard Courant’s 
Cinematon series.

Cornell, 1965 (Larry Jordan, 1978)
The White Rose (Bruce Conner, 1967)
Warren (Jeff Scher, 1995)
The Reality of Karel Appel (Jan Vrijman, 1962)
The Blues Accordin’ to Lightnin’ Hopkins (Les Blank, 1970)

And there’s a cycle of films that James Scott made in collaboration with 
artists in the 1960s-70s including Richard Hamilton, RB Kitaj, Love’s 
Presentation (David Hockney) and The Great Ice Cream Robbery (Claes Oldenburg). 
My colleague Jesse Pires has presented these films in Philadelphia and at Light 
Industry. There’s also a bevy of films on Oldenburg in particular, films by 
Robert Breer (Pat’s Birthday), Raymond Saroff (documentations of the Ray Gun 
Theater happenings) and many others.
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From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Marin
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:40 AM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits

Hi Kate,

I made a portrait of Argentine experimental filmmaker Claudio Caldini a few 
years ago. Here's an old transfer:

https://vimeo.com/63108311

best,
Pablo Marín



On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 7:43 AM, GRESARD Victor CJC 
victor.gres...@cjcinema.orgmailto:victor.gres...@cjcinema.org wrote:
Excerpt from Nicolayevsky here : https://vimeo.com/82984718
He made a lot of very short portraits (usually 3mins) of artists friends etc.


Excerpts from Marie Losier works here : ALAN VEGA : https://vimeo.com/65544029
Richard FOREMAN (theatre) https://vimeo.com/80810646
George KUCHAR : https://vimeo.com/80802678
Mike KUCHAR : https://vimeo.com/79668943
GENESIS P. ORRIDGE : https://vimeo.com/17892187

and of course there is some others by Marie Losier (Tony Conrad etc)


Dyonisos Andronis also made a portrait of Geneis P-Orridge and Lady Jaye, 
called PANDROGENY MANIFESTO.

Also Kubelka’s Arnulf Rainer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw1DVtFAz64

Also all the fashion portraits by Bob Wilson : you can watch lot of them on 
youtube.

Catherine Libert (Belgium-Italy) currently makes couple of portraits of italian 
independent filmmakers. The first one, called LE CHAMPS BRÛLANTS, is dedicated 
to B. Godino and Isabella Sandri 
http://www.lussasdoc.org/film-festival-les_champs_brulants-1407,2976.html


Also, there is the french filmmaker Jérôme De Missolz, who has made some 
portraits of photographers (Saudek, Witkins, etc).

Patrice Enard, portrait of the actress Erica white https://vimeo.com/82746135

CLouzot, le Mystère Picasso (more classical)

etc, etc, etc,







Le 5 févr. 2014 à 11:56, Angelica Cuevas Portilla 
angel...@cuevas.asmailto:angel...@cuevas.as a écrit :


Hello Kate,
Ricardo Nicolayevsky from Mexico city:

http://mediaartists.org/content.php?sec=artistsub=detailartist_id=672


Best regards,
Angélica Cuevas Portilla
4, rue Mathis
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France
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Feb 5, 2014 02:16:50 AM, 
frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com wrote:

Hi, frameworkers.  I’m looking for examples of portraits of artists and/or 
their processes or their works — sculptors, musicians, poets, other filmmakers, 
etc.  Really interested in hearing about non-standard, non-straight-doc, 
artistic/artist-made films and videos about other artists.  Particularly keen 
on short works.  Bonus points for ones available in some form online.  Thanks 
in advance for any suggestions you might have!

All the best,
Kate

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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm film rentals

[Herb Shellenberger]

Enoch Pratt Free Library is in Baltimore, not Philadelphia (alas). It's an 
excellent resource with many hidden gems. Miami-Dade Public Library system does 
indeed still have their circulating film collection as well. 

There are many 16mm collections out there that all have their own policies for 
access/loans, but some other great collections whose films I've utilized in 
screenings or for research are:
NYPL Reserve Film and Video Collection
Chicago Filmmakers
Visual Studies Workshop (Rochester)
University of Delaware Film and Video Collection
Medgar Evers College, CUNY

We also have a small but really excellent 16mm collection here at International 
House Philadelphia which I've utilized frequently. 

Follow up on leads from searching titles at Worldcat. Lots of listings will say 
that libraries hold 16mm copies when they've gotten rid of their collections 
years ago, but some collections are still out there to be found. Some 
librarians/archivists are incredibly restrictive with their prints and access 
whereas others are glad to have them being utilized either on-site or 
circulating. There are pros and cons to both approaches but 16mm is very much 
still out there if you know where to look. This is of course in addition to 
the excellent distributors like Filmmakers Coop, Canyon Cinema and MoMA 
Circulating Film Library (among others) who hold extremely wonderful 
collections. 

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From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of 
jb.mabe
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:12 PM
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University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. And they're totally cool about lending 
prints through ILL. Mostly educational stuff, though.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Beebe, Roger roge...@ufl.edu wrote:
 Last I checked there were about 150 experimental films on 16mm at the 
 Miami-Dade Public Libraries.  (Just went to their catalogue to confirm.  
 Seems like there are hundreds of 16mm films still available, and it's even 
 possible to search the catalogue specifically for them.)  I have to imagine 
 that Philadelphia and Miami can't be the only places that've held onto their 
 prints (although I'm sure they're in a tiny minority).

 ...
 Roger

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

 As far as I know, the only public library in the country that still 
 has an open 16mm film library is the Enoch Pratt Free Library in 
 Philadelphia.  Your local library may be able to get films from them through 
 interlibrary loan.
 They are very good people.
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] films/videos using/made up of text

[Herb Shellenberger]

Michael Snow's So is This
George Maciunas' fluxfilms (probably some other fluxfilms as well)
Guy Sherwin's At the Academy
Standish Lawder's Color Film 
William Klein's Broadway by Light


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Shelly Silver
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:42 PM
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Subject: [Frameworks] films/videos using/made up of text

dear collective knowledge base folks:
i'm compiling a list of works using text/made up of text.  i'm especially 
interested in works by women.

thank you!

best,
shelly
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[Frameworks] Looking for stills of Jerry Abrams' EYETOON (1968)

[Herb Shellenberger]

Anyone know where I might be able to find high-resolution, print-quality
stills of Jerry Abrams' 1968 film EYETOON? 

 

Thank you very much,

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Re: [Frameworks] Jud Yalkut RIP

[Herb Shellenberger]

I was typing something to the list earlier, but deleted it because I can't say 
I'm overly familiar with his work and thought others would be able to 
contribute more personal or cogent reflections/remembrances. However, as 
perhaps on the spectrum as a younger person (as was mentioned in a previous 
message), I can say that the work that I have seen of his has affected me 
greatly. All of the film/video work that I've seen are things we've been able 
to show here at International House in a variety of contexts. I count seeing 
16mm prints of Kusama's Self Obliteration, Turn Turn Turn, Waiting for 
Commercials and Clarence among my most cherished cinema experiences. As someone 
who is particularly drawn to psychedelic and visual abstraction in experimental 
cinema, Yalkut is pretty near the top of my list of filmmakers I'd like to 
explore much more. 

Here's hoping his archive and oeuvre becomes properly cataloged and accessible 
to scholars and cinephiles, if not somewhere local to the Ohio community that 
he fostered for so many years, than somewhere where it might be more accessible 
to larger numbers, like Anthology, the Academy and so on. 

Herb Shellenberger
Programs Office Manager
International House Philadelphia
3701 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104 USA
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Sent: Sat 7/27/2013 3:03 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
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i dont think it is in another realm  i think we are accountable as a
community for what happens going forward in regard to his work

mark is there any info you have on his archive ?? and thanks for posting
this in the first place

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On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Walter Ungerer w...@roadrunner.com wrote:

  May I add a thought of reflection...
 I believe every artist is at one point faced with the issue of his/her
 worth in comparison to others. After all the soul searching peace will come
 simply in the joy of working. My last correspondence with Jud indicates to
 me a measure of resolution for him. What happens now is in another realm.

 Walter Ungerer




 On 27July/2013 11:50 AM, Michael Betancourt wrote:

 I've curated his work on a couple of occasions, and I have to say I don't
 understand why he isn't as readily available as, for example, Brakhage's
 film work? (Although I already know the answer to that)

 In talking with my students, the cut-off seems to be what they can find
 online easily (or in a DVD they can rent) vs what's shown in galleries or
 screenings.

 This whole situation makes me kinda sad, Jud will be missed.

 Michael Betancourt
 Savannah, GA USA


 michaelbetancourt.com
 twitter.com/cinegraphic | vimeo.com/cinegraphic
 www.cinegraphic.net | the avant-garde film  video blog


 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Al Matthews prolep...@gmail.com wrote:

   plus i dont know if his work is archived
  maybe at MOMA ? anyone know?

  Hello all. I do not know and would be interested to hear.

  Electronic Arts Intermix has a good set of pages
 http://www.eai.org/artistSupportDocs.htm?id=257 , though with less
 between 1974 and 2004. I wonder if there's not a repository in Ohio?

It might be useful to think about the highly uneven reception some
 artists get and the reasons for that.  Perhaps leaving NYC has some effect,
 since most of his later career was in flyover country, Ohio.  Or being a
 pretty trippy and psychedelic type of maker in some of his work.  Perhaps
 some of it was not being written about enough by critics, or curated into
 shows often enough, or touring enough.  But some of it must have also been
 precisely because of his ease in shifting from one medium to another, and
 thus not fitting into experimental film in a pure sense because he also
 was involved in video and electronic music and image processing.  It's less
 the case now, but for a long time there was a lot of purism in film circles.

   All these reasons seem salient to me as well. Speaking to the first
 and the last, Ohio has evolved to host for example http://accad.osu.edu/,
 so no doubt we agree that it's more flyover country in nyc terms than
 electronic arts terms. Surely there's some interesting lag visible here in
 Jud Yalkut's readiness to hand, between the centralization that is analog
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Re: [Frameworks] Portrait films

[Herb Shellenberger]

I love Gérard Courant's film Cinématon which consists of (to this date) 2737 
3.5 minute portraits of artists, writers, intellectuals and many other 
different kinds of people. You can see many of these portraits on YouTube or on 
Gérard's site http://www.gerardcourant.com/

I presented a screening of 50 of these portraits during one of our season 
opening events at International House Philadelphia. It was great to see them 
projected in a cinema setting. 

Here's an example: Cinematon #120: Paul Sharits (1981): 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfakqYNFkYY

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From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Murphy
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:40 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Portrait films

Here is a link to a video I made that may fall into this catagory.

https://vimeo.com/50219263

Brian

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Marta Sanchez ma...@pragda.com wrote:
Hi guapa Shumona, you can see wonderful Santiago by Joao Malles, Brazil. Love 
from Spain Marta
Sent from my Iphone. Forgive the bad typing!

On Jun 20, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Shumona Goel shumonag...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Frameworks,

I am developing a short experimental film portrait about a dying man. He is an 
astrologer, linguist, and an agent of the Indian intelligence.  I was wondering 
whether you could recommend films like Portrait of Jason, for me to watch. I am 
looking for poetic films that could be easy to access from places like ubu.com 
or kara garga. 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
Shumona

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[Frameworks] Tonight in Philadelphia: Fantastic Films by Women

[Herb Shellenberger]

Frameworkers, 

 

International House Philadelphia is celebrating International Women's
Day with a generation-crossing selection of female views of the
fantastic. Short films by Maya Deren, Beatrice Gibson, Laida Lertxundi,
Rosa Barba and Germaine Dulac will be shown on 16mm or HD video. 

Meshes of the Afternoon dir. Maya Deren, Alexander Hammid, US, 1943,
16mm ,b/w, 14 min.
Agatha dir. Beatrice Gibson, UK, 2012, HD, color, 14 min.
Cry When it Happens dir. Laida Lertxundi, US, 2010, 16mm, color, 14 min.

Somnium dir. Rosa Barba, Germany/Netherlands, 2011, HD, color, 19 min. 
The Seashell and the Clergyman dir. Germaine Dulac, France, 1928, 16mm,
b/w, 29 min.

More information:
http://ihousephilly.org/events/international-womens-day-fantastic-films-
by-women/

One more plug: April 19-20 we are bringing Jonas Mekas to Philadelphia.
Jonas will introduce screenings and we will present a panel discussion
on his life and work with Amy Taubin, Jackie Raynal, Ed Halter and
Andrew Lampert. 

http://ihousephilly.org/jonasmekas

 

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Re: [Frameworks] Journal Filmmakers and Videomakers

[Herb Shellenberger]

Ross McElwee (Sherman's March, Bright Leaves), Ed Pincus (Diaries), some
films by Pierre Clementi and Chris Marker could qualify. 

 

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From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Halprin
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Journal Filmmakers and Videomakers

 

Hi Kevin!

Some people to check out: Marie Menken, Steve Reinke, John Smith
(especially the Hotel Diaries), George Kuchar's Weather Diaries, Saddie
Benning's early Pixelvision work, Joe Gibbons (at least Confessions of a
Sociopath), Daige Brundert.

Is there a working definition you're using? Or are you trying to create
that definition after looking at a collection of work?

-Jason Halprin

 

 



From: Kevin Obsatz ke...@videohaiku.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 11:48 AM
Subject: [Frameworks] Journal Filmmakers and Videomakers


Hello Frameworks!

I may have the opportunity to teach a short workshop on the Film Journal
genre at the University of Minnesota this spring... which means I need
to learn more about it first.

I would love some suggestions about major practitioners of this form
throughout film history, especially those whose work is purchaseable /
accessible in a non-print-rental form.

I'm also interested in critical writing on the subject.

Besides Jonas Mekas, whose work should I be exploring?


Thanks very much!

Kevin Obsatz
www.videohaiku.com http://www.videohaiku.com/ 

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[Frameworks] Films composed to music

[Herb Shellenberger]

Hello Frameworkers. There have been a few really great
looking-for-this-type-of-film threads recently, so I thought I would
throw my query out there.

 

A colleague and I were discussing experimental films that were composed
to music. In general we think of film scores being added after the fact,
but there are few films that I can think of that are composed
specifically to fit a piece of music:

 

 

Studies for the Decay of the West (dir. Klaus Wyborny)

In Wyborny's musical film, every new sound triggers a new image: 6,299
shots, all directly edited within his Super-8 camera. An intoxicating,
stroboscopic trip to industrial, natural and urban landscapes in East
Africa, New York, the Ruhr region and Rimini. This experimental music
film refers to Oswald Spengler's world-famous 1918 philosophical work
The Decay of the West. Culture pessimist Spengler argues that progress
is an illusion and that the modern era brings little good. People are no
longer able to understand the rationality of the world. Wyborny does not
set out to make a film version of Spengler's theories, but rather a
visual reflection on the modern age; a stroboscopic journey in five
parts to industrial, natural and urban landscapes. He uses 6,299 shots,
edited directly in a Super-8 camera. Each piano note and violin vibrato
evokes a new image: demolished buildings, rubble, destruction and
nature. This film forms a counterpart to Wyborny's previous films series
Eine andere Welt. Lieder der Erde II(2004/2005). [Film Society of
Lincoln Center]

 

 

Passage Through: A Ritual (dir. Stan Brakahge)

When I received the tape of Philip Corner's Through the Mysterious
Barricade, Lumen 1 (after F. Couperin), he included a note that thanked
me for my film, The Riddle of Lumen, he'd just seen and which had in
some way inspired this music. I, in turn, was so moved by the tape he
sent I immediately asked his permission to set it to film. It required
the most exacting editing process ever; and in the course of that work
it occurred to me that I'd originally made The Riddle of Lumen hoping
someone would make an answering film and entertain my visual riddle in
the manner of the riddling poets of yore. I most expected Hollis
Frampton (because of Zorn's Lemma) to pick up the challenge; but he
never did. In some sense I think composer Corner has - and now we have
this dance of riddles as music and film combine to make passage, in
every sense of the word, further possible. (To be absolutely true to
the ritual of this passage, the two reels of the film should be shown on
one projector, taking the normal amount of time, without rewinding reel
#1 or showing the finish and start leaders of either - especially
without changing the sound dials - between reels.) [Stan Brakhage, via
CFMDC]

 

 

These are both films that use film to play music in a sense, or use
music to generate images or structures. While some filmmakers may have
used music in this way in a portion of a larger film, I'm more
interested in films that exclusively use this method, whether it is with
one complete piece or a few. Also, I'm trying to focus on films that
integrate music more deeply than just cutting on specific beats. 

 

Any ideas would be much appreciated! 

 

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Re: [Frameworks] films featuring projectionists

[Herb Shellenberger]

The Blind Owl (Raul Ruiz)

Dillinger is Dead (Marco Ferreri) - Michel Piccoli projects film in his
house

Eadweard Muybridge, Zoopraxographer (Thom Andersen) - some discussion of
Muybridge's Zoopraxiscope

Color Film (Standish Lawder) - no projectionist or booth, but this short
consists of colored film running through a projector

David Holzman's Diary (Jim McBride) - film shooting and editing
equipment

We Can't Go Home Again (Nicholas Ray, not as sure about this one)

Arrebato (Ivan Zulueta) - again someone projecting film in their own
apartment

 

 

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[mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Pigott,
Michael
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:56 AM
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Subject: [Frameworks] films featuring projectionists

 

Hello there,

I'm trying to compile a list of films featuring projectionists or
projection boothes. So far it feels like there's a lot less that I
thought there was, so I wondered if anybody had any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Michael

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