Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Bob Zinck]

Several years ago I attended a screening of Peter Hutton's work at the
Massachusetts College of Art where Peter was present to answer questions.
Being first trained as a still photographer, I couldn't help but think
about the work of Alfred Steiglitz and his "Equivalents". Unfortunately, at
the time I couldn't muster up the courage to ask him about it. Does anyone
else have a similar reaction to his work?

Bob

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Francisco Torres 
wrote:

>  ''. .  It's like the
> letters my father writes that I never answer.''
> ???
>
> 2016-12-07 15:24 GMT-04:00 Re X :
>
>> Looking forward to the Hutton retrospective starting tonight in NYC!! It
>> runs through Monday at Anthology.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mark Street  wrote:
>>
>>> I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and
>>> inspiring) than a series of Peter Hutton's films.
>>>
>>> Mark Street
>>> www.markstreetfilms.com
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I
 saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained
 in pindrop silence through the evening length screening.

 One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was
 how he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing
 moved. I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per
 second and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp
 post.

 Amazing.

 On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran"  wrote:

> "...an act of love..." Nicely stated.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <
> chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote:
> >
> > 1.  Hutton was an educator.
> >
> > 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely
> disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality,
> biology, or whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
> >
> > 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art
> experiences is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes
> this a better world.
> >
> > Chuck Kleinhans
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
> >> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep
> coming,
> >> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
> >> write someone, anyway?
> >>
> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
> >>
> >> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
> >> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was
> funny,
> >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André
> Kertész
> >> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
> >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
> >> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very
> well
> >> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
> >> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
> >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
> >> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
> >> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
> >> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
> >> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
> >> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
> >>
> >> Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Francisco Torres]

 ''. .  It's like the
letters my father writes that I never answer.''
???

2016-12-07 15:24 GMT-04:00 Re X :

> Looking forward to the Hutton retrospective starting tonight in NYC!! It
> runs through Monday at Anthology.
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mark Street  wrote:
>
>> I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and
>> inspiring) than a series of Peter Hutton's films.
>>
>> Mark Street
>> www.markstreetfilms.com
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I
>>> saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained
>>> in pindrop silence through the evening length screening.
>>>
>>> One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was
>>> how he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing
>>> moved. I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per
>>> second and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp
>>> post.
>>>
>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran"  wrote:
>>>
 "...an act of love..." Nicely stated.

 Cheers.

 Tim

 Sent from my iPad

 > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <
 chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote:
 >
 > 1.  Hutton was an educator.
 >
 > 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely
 disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality,
 biology, or whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
 >
 > 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences
 is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better
 world.
 >
 > Chuck Kleinhans
 >
 >
 >
 >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy 
 wrote:
 >>
 >> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
 >> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
 >> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
 >> write someone, anyway?
 >>
 >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
 >>
 >> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
 >> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was
 funny,
 >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
 >> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
 >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
 >> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
 >> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
 >> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
 >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
 >> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
 >> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
 >> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
 >> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
 >> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
 >>
 >> Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Re X]

Looking forward to the Hutton retrospective starting tonight in NYC!! It
runs through Monday at Anthology.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mark Street  wrote:

> I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and
> inspiring) than a series of Peter Hutton's films.
>
> Mark Street
> www.markstreetfilms.com
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel 
> wrote:
>
>> As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I
>> saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained
>> in pindrop silence through the evening length screening.
>>
>> One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was how
>> he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing moved.
>> I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per second
>> and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp post.
>>
>> Amazing.
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran"  wrote:
>>
>>> "...an act of love..." Nicely stated.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <
>>> chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > 1.  Hutton was an educator.
>>> >
>>> > 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely
>>> disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality,
>>> biology, or whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
>>> >
>>> > 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences
>>> is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better
>>> world.
>>> >
>>> > Chuck Kleinhans
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
>>> >> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
>>> >> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
>>> >> write someone, anyway?
>>> >>
>>> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
>>> >>
>>> >> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
>>> >> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
>>> >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
>>> >> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
>>> >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
>>> >> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
>>> >> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
>>> >> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
>>> >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
>>> >> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
>>> >> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
>>> >> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
>>> >> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
>>> >> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bernie
>>> >> ___
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Mark Street]

I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and inspiring)
than a series of Peter Hutton's films.

Mark Street
www.markstreetfilms.com

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel  wrote:

> As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I
> saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained
> in pindrop silence through the evening length screening.
>
> One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was how
> he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing moved.
> I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per second
> and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp post.
>
> Amazing.
>
> On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran"  wrote:
>
>> "...an act of love..." Nicely stated.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 1.  Hutton was an educator.
>> >
>> > 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely
>> disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality,
>> biology, or whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
>> >
>> > 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences
>> is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better
>> world.
>> >
>> > Chuck Kleinhans
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
>> >> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
>> >> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
>> >> write someone, anyway?
>> >>
>> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
>> >>
>> >> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
>> >> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
>> >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
>> >> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
>> >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
>> >> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
>> >> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
>> >> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
>> >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
>> >> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
>> >> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
>> >> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
>> >> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
>> >> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
>> >>
>> >> Bernie
>> >> ___
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Shumona Goel]

As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I saw
Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained in
pindrop silence through the evening length screening.

One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was how
he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing moved.
I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per second
and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp post.

Amazing.

On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran"  wrote:

> "...an act of love..." Nicely stated.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans 
> wrote:
> >
> > 1.  Hutton was an educator.
> >
> > 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely
> disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality,
> biology, or whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
> >
> > 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is
> (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better
> world.
> >
> > Chuck Kleinhans
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
> >> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
> >> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
> >> write someone, anyway?
> >>
> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
> >>
> >> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
> >> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
> >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
> >> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
> >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
> >> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
> >> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
> >> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
> >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
> >> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
> >> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
> >> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
> >> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
> >> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
> >>
> >> Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Tim Halloran]

"...an act of love..." Nicely stated.

Cheers.

Tim

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans  
> wrote:
> 
> 1.  Hutton was an educator.
> 
> 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined 
> style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or 
> whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
> 
> 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at 
> least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world.
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy  wrote:
>> 
>> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
>> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
>> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
>> write someone, anyway?
>> 
>> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
>> 
>> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
>> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
>> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
>> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
>> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
>> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
>> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
>> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
>> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
>> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
>> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
>> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
>> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
>> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
>> 
>> Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Chuck Kleinhans]

Gentle reminder: 

Hey Bernie, you seem to be off your meds again.  Might want to check on that.





> On Dec 3, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Bernard Roddy  wrote:
> 
> How does one respond to this sort of teaching?  Hello?
> 
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Chuck Kleinhans
>  wrote:
>> 1.  Hutton was an educator.
>> 
>> 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined 
>> style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or 
>> whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
>> 
>> 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at 
>> least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world.
>> 
>> Chuck Kleinhans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
>>> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
>>> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
>>> write someone, anyway?
>>> 
>>> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
>>> 
>>> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
>>> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
>>> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
>>> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
>>> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
>>> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
>>> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
>>> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
>>> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
>>> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
>>> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
>>> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
>>> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
>>> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
>>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Bernard Roddy]

How does one respond to this sort of teaching?  Hello?

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Chuck Kleinhans
 wrote:
> 1.  Hutton was an educator.
>
> 2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined 
> style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or 
> whatever.  Taste is a social construction,
>
> 3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at 
> least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world.
>
> Chuck Kleinhans
>
>
>
>> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy  wrote:
>>
>> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
>> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
>> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
>> write someone, anyway?
>>
>> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
>>
>> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
>> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
>> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
>> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
>> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
>> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
>> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
>> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
>> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
>> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
>> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
>> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
>> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
>> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
>>
>> Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Bernard Roddy]

Oh please . .

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:08 PM, John Knecht  wrote:
> Bernie,
>
> I used Peter Hutton's films in my university courses for forty years.  I put
> them in context by showing students, Peter's films with paintings by Monet.
> Filmmaking in celluloid or in a digital format is about light and motion at
> its base.  Artists such as Peter Hutton or Claude Monet or James Benning are
> artists who look carefully at the world.  As Benning says "Going out and
> observing and reporting back."  Peter's study of natural light and motion
> are unique in cinema.  Good art makes places for us to go.  Peter's films
> took you to a place the other night.  It took the couple in front of you
> there too.  You've never been there before. Come back again.
>
> John Knecht
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Bernard Roddy 
> wrote:
>>
>> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
>> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
>> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
>> write someone, anyway?
>>
>> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
>>
>> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
>> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
>> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
>> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
>> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
>> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
>> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
>> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
>> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
>> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
>> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
>> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
>> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
>> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
>>
>> Bernie
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>
>
>
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>  University Professor of Art and Art History
>  and Film and Media Studies. Emeritus.
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[Chuck Kleinhans]

1.  Hutton was an educator.

2.  For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined 
style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or whatever.  
Taste is a social construction,

3.  Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at 
least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world.

Chuck Kleinhans



> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy  wrote:
> 
> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
> write someone, anyway?
> 
> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
> 
> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
> 
> Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] Hutton

[John Knecht]

Bernie,

I used Peter Hutton's films in my university courses for forty years.  I
put them in context by showing students, Peter's films with paintings by
Monet.  Filmmaking in celluloid or in a digital format is about light and
motion at its base.  Artists such as Peter Hutton or Claude Monet or James
Benning are artists who look carefully at the world.  As Benning says
"Going out and observing and reporting back."  Peter's study of natural
light and motion are unique in cinema.  Good art makes places for us to
go.  Peter's films took you to a place the other night.  It took the couple
in front of you there too.  You've never been there before. Come back again.

John Knecht

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Bernard Roddy 
wrote:

> Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
> letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
> even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
> write someone, anyway?
>
> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:
>
> What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
> first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
> photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
> experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
> attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
> the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
> extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
> there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
> river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
> does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
> of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.
>
> Bernie
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[Frameworks] Hutton

[Bernard Roddy]

Frameworkers!  I don't know who you are, but . . .  It's like the
letters my father writes that I never answer.  They just keep coming,
even as I throw them directly in the trash.  What, then, is it to
write someone, anyway?

But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale.  And I wonder, well:

What does this have to do with higher education?  That wasn't the
first thing, though.  It was, is this still acceptable?  It was funny,
after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész
photographs.  Is this even experimental?  The girl in the seat in
front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder.  It was an
experience resembling a service of some kind.  The show was very well
attended.  I'm not just saying that.  And understandably so, because
the experience is hard to get!  It's in film, for god's sake, and it
couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this
extremely disciplined style.  You could think, you could wait, and
there was never anything to distract you . .  (I'm thinking of the
river film and the Polish city film) . .  But then there's that what
does this have to do with higher education?  Can this really be part
of a course of study?  That's where I lose it.

Bernie
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[Frameworks] Hutton - At Sea, in Berlin, Lenin Portrait

[Chris G]

Hi all,

I'm trying to see if anyone knows how to acquire a print of Hutton's film 'At
Sea, in Berlin, Lenin Portrait'. I can only find a few records of it online
but it's not one that Canyon or Arsenal hold, so I'm assuming it's one of
the prints he had personally.

Thanks,
Christopher
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