Re: why BSDs got no love (and why security gets no love)
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:56:51 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Update: I confirmed that the scheduled publication date for my article will be Tuesday the 29th. It's up at http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=2888 pgpQ4MKFzCBPF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Printable PC-BSD labels?
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:44:26 -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry .. I guess I read your mail too fast .. I thought you were looking for FreeBSD CD-ROM 'labels' ... I've never seen PC-BSD CD-ROM 'labels' .. It may be a good idea to e-mail Matt Olander or Kris Moore and ask them directly .. They'll probably help you out if you plan on giving away PC-BSD CD-ROMS :) Thanks. I'll email Matt :) ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printable PC-BSD labels?
Patras Linux User Group (of which I am a member) plans to host a 1-day event for new students of University of Patras, and I got approval to present FreeBSD too. As part of the event, we are going to be giving away PC-BSD DVDs and installing the USB-based image of PC-BSD to the USB flash disks of those who are interested. I have started burning a batch of PC-BSD DVD disks earlier today, so by the end of the week I'll have quite a few of them ready. Does anyone on the list have printable CD-ROM 'labels' that we can use to make the disks prettier? My artistic foo isn't really something I would like to depend too much upon :) - Giorgos pgptCsnXqnY9m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Important update from Microsoft Windows XP/2003 Professional Service Pack 2 (KB946026)
On Fri, 23 May 2008 16:03:21 +0300, Alaksiej C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct me, if I'm wrong, but I believe there were no more than 3 or 4 spam messages during last 3 months. I don't think it's something to bother about. True. That's a testament to the quality of job our postmaster for the FreeBSD.org domain does :) ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with a presentation.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:04:07 +0200, Julian H. Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please avoid un-necessary UTF-8. Ascii works better ! Anyway, I others did presentations one evening last year, feel free to use any data or tools etc you can from eg http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/ http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/ http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/export/1_intro_julian/current/ Sources http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/source/1_intro_julian/current/ PS a hint on lecturing: Think back over all the lectures youve attended, all the different weird annoying distracting ineffective methods habits all the different lecturers had, avoid that list, you're off to a good start just by avoiding that list :-) Good Luck ! The BSDCan article of Robert Watson may also give a few good ideas: http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006eurobsdcon/eurobsdcon2006-howfreebsdworks.pdf Slides also available at: http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006eurobsdcon/2006-eurobsdcon2006-how-freebsd-works.pdf ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-ROM artwork for FreeBSD 7.0
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:32:27 +0200, Peer Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there, I have created some CD-ROM labels, sleeves and cases for FreeBSD 7.0. The artwork is available from this site: http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/cdrom-artwork/ Feedback is appreciated. Very cool work! Thanks :) ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Current Gentoo user
On 2007-12-13 12:35, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After two years using Gentoo, after the first very positive
impression, I'm a bit tired of breaking things due to updating one
port. It's also too much of a pain reconfiguring and recompiling the
Linux kernel.
Configuring the kernel with menuconfig is a pain. How is it handled
differently with FreeBSD?
We use flat text files, like `GENERIC'. They are stored in a well
documented, standard place inside the kernel source tree, at the
`/usr/src/sys/${ARCH}/conf' directory, where `ARCH' is one of `i386',
`amd64' or another supported architecture.
All the kernel options and their dependencies are documented in a set of
plain text, easy to skim through, files:
/usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES # Machine independent options
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES # Machine-dependent options (i386
platform)
You can either copy `GENERIC' and tweak its options, or create a minimal
kernel config file called `KERAMIDA' which contains just the text:
include GENERIC # Use the `GENERIC' kernel for defaults
ident KERAMIDA # Custom/local kernel identifier
nooption SCHED_4BSD # Disable the 4BSD scheduler.
option SCHED_ULE# Enable the ULE scheduler.
That's it. With this short kernel config file you are building a custom
kernel which uses the `ULE' scheduler by default. To build in a clean
checkout of the FreeBSD source tree, all it takes is[1]:
# cd /usr/src
# make KERNCONF='KERAMIDA' buildkernel
[1] There may be a few more steps if you are often building new kernel
and userland snapshots, but they are clearly documented in a plain text
file called `/usr/src/UPDATING' --- conveniently placed in the toplevel
directory of the source tree.
I personally find this way of working *MUCH* easier than having to
navigate a dozen sublevels of a menu, but YMMV.
Perhaps it's my lack of experience. On FreeBSD, you can compile the
kernel every day with no trouble at all, even the whole base system
weekly, if you're so inclined. I can't be objective, but I think in
this respect FreeBSD is much, much, much better.
Can you tell me more about what you mean here? How is it much better?
Easier kernel management?
All the information you need to rebuild the full userland *and* kernel
of the FreeBSD base system is described in `/usr/src/UPDATING'. That's
not all there is, however. The FreeBSD Handbook includes a wealth of
documentation about the same process too, including a fairly detailed
description of the steps documented in `/usr/src/uPDATING'.
There is a *lot* of standard documentation and information describing
how to rebuild the base system of FreeBSD from source. What is even
more amazing, and intriguing about FreeBSD is that the precise steps to
perform an upgrade have changed *very* *little* since the days of my
first adventures into BSD-land. There are only minimal changes, if any,
to the upgrade process since FreeBSD 3.2 was released more than a decade
ago... This stability of `interface' is amazing, and it's what keeps me
thrilled with FreeBSD ever since :-)
- Giorgos
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Re: RedHat Linux or FreeBSD
On 2007-11-11 23:09, yahya wafula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whoever it may concern, sometime ago i posted a question asking for some assistance on how to install and operate FreeBSD, unfortunately, i still got stranded. I don't remember the particular question, so it may be worth asking it again, by a posting to our technical questions' mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] right now an idea has come to my mind and i've been thinking of enrolling for an RHCT RHCE with a hope that i may gain substantial knowledge to help me not only manage RedHat Linux but also FreeBSD incase both have common performance. Redhat GNU/Linux is a UNIX-like system too, so there are definitely good things to gain from that system. As UNIX-like systems, FreeBSD and the Redhat GNU/Linux distributions share a lot of common 'design' attributes, and many features are implemented in very similar ways. My own recommendation would be to try *both* systems. My own personal preference is greatly in support of FreeBSD, but that is just that: a personal preference for the way the FreeBSD releases work, the way the FreeBSD team operates, and the way the overall 'FreeBSD experience' tends to match my style of work. well, am i on the right path? are there any similarities between RHCT/ RHCE and FreeBSD. thanks alot with regards. YAHYA WAFULA OJWANG. CAIRO. EGYPT There are both similarities and differences. It's not easy to guess what *you* would prefer, in advance. Hence my suggestion to try both systems and see for yourself :-) - Giorgos ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD + Adobe Flash News Item
On 2007-04-18 08:59, Matt Olander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While Adobe hasn't agreed to port Flash to FreeBSD (yet!), they have agreed to re-distribution of the Flash player. I obtained 2 separate re-distribution agreements, one for PC-BSD and one for the FreeBSD Foundation. The lead Flash Product Manager at Adobe, Emmy Huang, who is also a strong open source advocate, was a great help to me getting this far and she will be blogging about this shortly. In the meantime, here's the very simple press release for PC-BSD/Flash: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/04/prweb519843.htm I won't give up on a native port, but I'm not holding my breathe either. Hopefully, now that we've got the right contacts at Adobe, it will be easier to pursue the port. The more people that can pick this news up in their blogs, the better. Also, if someone can post it to the News section of the FreeBSD site, great! Posted ... http://keramida.wordpress.com/2007/04/19/flash-support-for-bsd-step-1/ Many thanks to iXsystems for getting this going :-) - Giorgos ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www/87336: Problems with Web Site
On 2005-10-12 17:46, Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Synopsis: Problems with Web Site Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-advocacy-freebsd-www Responsible-Changed-By: remko Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Oct 12 17:45:10 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: This does not belong in the advocacy category but in the www category. Move it there. I'd probably argue this doesn't belong in Gnats altogether, since discussions of the new website should be done in freebsd-www, but that's probably me growing tired of seeing bug reports submitted without diffs about the new website. ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFE (Request for Enhancement)
On 2005-07-28 12:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not create a RFE database similar to the Bug Buster and implement this along side. This way the FreeBSD community can see what the users and companies want FreeBSD to do for them. Sometimes a users may have a very creative idea but does not posses the skills required to implement the solution. This role is already covered by a special category in teh gnats database. ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to improve FreeBSD
On 2005-07-05 10:09, Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2005-07-04 11:11, Achilleus Mantzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If some of you want to help us improve FreeBSD, then stop arguing about religious and spiritual things and prove you can do something with a real impact on the current stateof FreeBSD, such as: - Submit a fix for one of the existing bugs - Improve an existing feature - Add new features - etc. Isn't he talking about the feature 'add new users to the user base of FreeBSD'? Perhaps. My main point was that instead of talking about adding new users to FreeBSD, we should focus on acting. The particular items of action that have the potential, as forms of advocacy, to enlarge the FreeBSD userbase have been listed in older posts. I just reacted to the tendency I've seen the past few months to drive the greatest percentage of discussions around a change of the logo of FreeBSD, as if it was just the logo that keeps users from coming. Well, I assure you, it's not. This is not a statement from my part that there can never be people who refuse to use FreeBSD because they feel the daemon challenges or even insults their religious beliefs. There are, however, a great number of reasons why people do not use FreeBSD that have nothing to do with the logo: 1.Missing features that exist in other UNIX systems This is where one may list things such as my favorite UNIX system is Foo(TM), because if supports Bar(R). 2.Lack of hype in popular press For example, the marketting and press efforts of a certain Redmond-based company are a typical example of what we cannot match right now. The press coverage of Linux is also something that may lose us some users who would be perfectly happy with FreeBSD. 3.Minimal or completely non-existent support by some hardware or software vendors No support by ATI and very limited support by NVIDIA is a very sore point that we need to do something about. Before we embark on yet another flame about the daemon or its relative religious significane to a certain percentage of the potential FreeBSD users, we need to think as members of the advocacy list and as users or contributors to FreeBSD what have WE done to actively promote FreeBSD lately? What have WE done to make it more known to the masses? Have we really solved ALL other problems and feel that our efforts are severely limited by the daemon logo, in a way that needs immediate action to discuss or change it? That's all. That's why I'm in favor of direct and immediate action and my alarms go off whenever I see yet another (mostly pointless) discussion about what should be done. Don't talk anymore. Go out there and do. - Send an article about FreeBSD to your favorite online or print publication. - Write the code for a new FreeBSD feature. - Fix an existing bug. Just do :) ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Explaining FreeBSD features
On 2005-06-22 11:09, Warren Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt said: The 4a users, by contrast, may be attracted to Linux initially due to the ease-of-entry issue your bringing up. But they try it and find out that it's dumbed-down interface gets in the way just as much as the Windows dumbed-down interface. That's where I think the majority of new FreeBSD converts come from - people that started with Windows, outgrew it, tried Linux for a while and got disgusted with the hand-holding, then went to FreeBSD and never looked back. I think you're probably right. This pretty much describes how I came to FreeBSD. I just wonder if there is some way to shorten the trip and take Linux completely out of the loop. Looking back, I wish I had known about FreeBSD sooner. It would have saved me quite a bit of frustration. I think FreeBSD would have been a much better platform for me to learn UNIX on because I wouldn't have had to endure a paradigm shift in order to continue the learning process. However, I suppose that having used Linux made me appreciate the fundamental quality of FreeBSD more than I may have otherwise. Hehehe. AOLMe too/AOL These days, I don't use Linux if I have a choise, but I do appreciate the time spent learning the ropes of a UNIX-like system with early Slackware versions. - Giorgos (Who was converted to FreeBSD after several years of Linux, and that by sheer accident, when he tried to install OpenBSD and utterly trashed his partition table, losing all traces of Linux *AND* that other OS, in a [now] fondly remembered evening.) ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [30-05-05] Layout update
On 2005-05-30 08:41, Fafa Hafiz Krantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Jawed [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.johnjawed.com/freebsd-redesign/30-05-2005/ You're wasting your time, the webdesign contest hasn't started yet. Your design is very clear and mature, however it doesn't give the project the corporate feel that it requires to sustain among the big players. Don't give away your ideas this early :) Make them better, and use them to win that competition! Sorry, but no. - There is no website design competition. This means that John (like everyone else) is free to spend his time any way he pleases. His design is actually rather lightweight and cool (apart from minor column size problems and font sizes), so I see no reason to avoid showing it around. - It makes no sense to keep stuff to yourself, if you're making it in the first place in order to give it to the FreeBSD project. I say John keep the good work up and I'm sure he has already contacted all the right people who are not working in Perforce towards the same goal :-) ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Main site makeover
On 2005-05-28 11:51, Fafa Hafiz Krantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to this? http://www.monkey.org/freebsd/archive/freebsd-advocacy/200412/ msg00080.html I don't know if these were generated from real HTML/CSS or just created in a graphics editor. Actually, I've seen a front page that Chris did (I think) that's got the nice menu across the top and a really well designed front page. I just wanted to point out; There's *nothing* new about that design. It still follows the old principles. It's ok. Small incremental changes are easier to test and accept than a full throw it all away and use mine style of update. The site now uses CSS a lot more than before, AFAIK. I'm not a web design guru, but if someone came up with a style that looks like, say, Wikipedia it would be interesting. Any takers who want to try revamping the front page by using *only* CSS style changes? ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
