Re: Problems in VM structure ?
:maxusers 256 Try reducing maxusers to 128. Another person reported similar behavior to me and after a bunch of work he tried going back to a basic distribution -- and everything started working again. It turned out that a maxusers value of 256 and 512 were causing his machine to go poof, but a maxusers value of 128 worked fine. I haven't tracked the problem down yet. Please try reducing your maxusers to 128 and email the results to current. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
sysinstall - ALT F2 black screen
I'm installing on a ASUS P55T2P4 again on an IBM DHEA 38451 with the 3.0 STABLE install floppies. Making filesystem on wd0s1f took quite long and did not end. Trying to switch to the DEBUG screen (ALT F2) gives me a black screen. Anyone seen this? Or is my hardware still screwed? Not finding the wdc controllers in previous efforts was caused by some special wiring the colleague added to disable the hard disks by a switch on the front panel (which took off power from the hard drive while leaving it cabled to the controller). -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies k...@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
CTM deltas have stopped 3 days ago
Is something broken or is there a reason for this ? I normally get src-cur and ports-cur. /=\ |Work: matthew.th...@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thy...@camtech.net.au| \=/ If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time. E. P. Tryon from Nature Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Problems in VM structure ?
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :maxusers 256 Try reducing maxusers to 128. Another person reported similar behavior to me and after a bunch of work he tried going back to a basic distribution -- and everything started working again. It turned out that a maxusers value of 256 and 512 were causing his machine to go poof, but a maxusers value of 128 worked fine. I haven't tracked the problem down yet. Please try reducing your maxusers to 128 and email the results to current. For what it's worth, my maxusers is 250 and my system is quite stable, even during a make -j25 buildworld. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message Brian Feldman_ __ ___ ___ ___ gr...@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Problems in VM structure ?
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: MD Try reducing maxusers to 128. Another person reported similar behavior MD to me and after a bunch of work he tried going back to a basic MD distribution -- and everything started working again. Hmmm, ok. MD It turned out that a maxusers value of 256 and 512 were causing his machine MD to go poof, but a maxusers value of 128 worked fine. Ok. I'm glad, in a way, that I'm not the only one seeing this. The really weird thing though is that since reporting the problem, it hasn't re-occured. If it occurs again, I'll mail the results of the gdb -core /var/crash/blah, a trace and then try reducing the number of maxusers. This is the longest uptime I've had in almost two weeks - 14 hours. Here's hoping :) MD I haven't tracked the problem down yet. Please try reducing your maxusers MD to 128 and email the results to current. If the problem re-occurs, I'll do so :) --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khe...@iafrica.com ; khe...@os.org.za http://www.os.org.za/~khetan * Talk/Finger khe...@chain.freebsd.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast* http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ Security-wise, NT is a OS with a kick me sign taped to it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
/etc/defaults/rc.conf
Initially I though /etc/defaults/rc.conf stored the default settings and then we could override some of the settings in /etc/rc.conf, but after a close look at how they are used in /etc/rc*, I am confused: if [ -f /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/defaults/rc.conf elif [ -f /etc/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/rc.conf fi If I have a /etc/defaults/rc.conf, then my /etc/rc.conf won't be consulted. So what is the purpose of /etc/defaults/rc.conf? -lq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Suggestion for elf upgrade
On Sun, Feb 14, 1999, Stephen Montgomery-Smith put this into my mailbox: Yesterday I did an upgrade from 3.0-Release to 3.1-beta. I did make world, then I made the kernel. At the end of the make kernel, I got a message about the kernel being elf!!! Bad timing to find out about this - I was told to look at http://www.freebsd.org/~peter/elfday.html and by this time, the code mismatch between the binary executables and the kernel made netscape unusable. Good thing I wasn't upgrading from 2.2.x, maybe then I could not have even installed lynx or Mosaic to get the info I needed. Odd. Netscape runs for me. I have an ELF kernel and the new bootblocks, and obviously a new ELF world. [ch...@holly ~] $ uname -srm FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 Well, I did get it figured out. But I have one suggestion for the web page http://www.freebsd.org/~peter/elfday.html It told me that I needed new bootblocks. I think a paragraph explanation of what bootblocks is would have helped a very great deal. As it was it was like telling me to wear a nuffle on my head when it is cold. Like, what is a nuffle? So what is a bootblock? I did figure out enough to get it to work (I am guessing that a bootblock is some code at the beginning of each slice that is loaded by booteasy). I believe the boot blocks contain the software required to access the disk and boot the kernel. Obviously you'd need new boot blocks if you'll be trying to run a kernel that the 2.2 blocks don't understand. -- SIGBUS Bus error (passengers dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf
Initially I though /etc/defaults/rc.conf stored the default settings and then we could override some of the settings in /etc/rc.conf, but after a close look at how they are used in /etc/rc*, I am confused: if [ -f /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/defaults/rc.conf elif [ -f /etc/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/rc.conf fi Check out the tail end of /etc/defaults/rc.conf - you'll find it sources /etc/rc.conf (or /etc/rc.conf.local). Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: CTM deltas have stopped 3 days ago
Matthew Thyer wrote: Is something broken or is there a reason for this ? I normally get src-cur and ports-cur. This normally happens after a tagging operation; sites take a _helluva_ long time to catch up and create the diffs. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Suggestion for elf upgrade
I think that you misunderstood my message. The problems I was having were not with the final state of the machine, but with the intermediate stages. Chris Costello wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 1999, Stephen Montgomery-Smith put this into my mailbox: ... and by this time, the code mismatch between the binary executables and the kernel made netscape unusable. Odd. Netscape runs for me. I have an ELF kernel and the new bootblocks, and obviously a new ELF world. The problem was I was stuck with 3.1 code, but an old 3.0 kernel. I needed netscape or some other browser to get to the web site to figure out how to get the new 3.1 kernel going, and the mismatch meant that I could not use netscape. My point was that if I had known about this web site BEFORE I started the make world, then it would have been much easier to extract the needed info. Now I finally got the 3.1 kernel going, netscape works fine. It told me that I needed new bootblocks. I think a paragraph explanation of what bootblocks is would have helped a very great deal. As it was it was like telling me to wear a nuffle on my head when it is cold. Like, what is a nuffle? So what is a bootblock? I did figure out enough to get it to work (I am guessing that a bootblock is some code at the beginning of each slice that is loaded by booteasy). I believe the boot blocks contain the software required to access the disk and boot the kernel. Obviously you'd need new boot blocks if you'll be trying to run a kernel that the 2.2 blocks don't understand. Yes, I did figure out that much. But without understanding bootblocks in context, I was unsure what exactly I was looking for. I think that the web page http://www.freebsd.org/~peter/elfday.html would have been better if the link to http://www.freebsd.org/~rnordier/boot.txt had been somewhere prominent at the top of http://www.freebsd.org/~peter/elfday.html , and a small paragraph explaining what bootblocks is would have helped put the whole thing in context. My issue is not with the final product, which is fantastic. Rather I am making some suggested changes to the way the information is being put out. Really, they are only suggestions. I think that the FreeBSD team do a very good job. I just wanted to offer my feedback on the technical writing aspect. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith step...@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building step...@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics step...@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Problems in VM structure ?
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: Try reducing maxusers to 128. Another person reported similar behavior to me and after a bunch of work he tried going back to a basic distribution -- and everything started working again. It turned out that a maxusers value of 256 and 512 were causing his machine to go poof, but a maxusers value of 128 worked fine. Another datapoint, Sybase goes poof with maxusers set to 64 or higher. This has been the case since before 3.0 was released. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 09:04:11AM -0500, Luoqi Chen wrote: Initially I though /etc/defaults/rc.conf stored the default settings and then we could override some of the settings in /etc/rc.conf, but after a close look at how they are used in /etc/rc*, I am confused: if [ -f /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/defaults/rc.conf elif [ -f /etc/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/rc.conf fi If I have a /etc/defaults/rc.conf, then my /etc/rc.conf won't be consulted. So what is the purpose of /etc/defaults/rc.conf? Doesn't /etc/defaults/rc.conf pull in /etc/rc.conf ? It appears to here. -- Richard Seaman, Jr. email: d...@tar.com 5182 N. Maple Lanephone: 414-367-5450 Chenequa WI 53058 fax: 414-367-5852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Suggestion for elf upgrade
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999, Stephen Montgomery-Smith put this into my mailbox: My issue is not with the final product, which is fantastic. Rather I am making some suggested changes to the way the information is being put out. Really, they are only suggestions. I think that the FreeBSD team do a very good job. I just wanted to offer my feedback on the technical writing aspect. Oh. Sorry. Yeah, it had me kinda confused and lost for a while, until I really read each and every word about 3 million times. Perhaps, sometime soon, it should be edited and put in the handbook. Just my $19.99 ($15.99 if you order by mail). -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Problesm w/ 4.0-current wine
Wrong again. boot0 is in the MBR, boot1 and boot2 are the bootstrap; all by Robert. The loader, OTOH, uses Robert's BTX code, Ficl, and a lot of code derived by me from the NetBSD standalone loader. Boot2 is, as you say, correctly identified as the bootstrap, however you cannot deny that boot2 is a kernel loader as it can load a pure executable (a.out kernel or /boot/loader) or an ELF kernel. It's the bootstrap. Yes, it can load kernels, but it is not referred to as the kernel loader (that's what the loader is). The BTX loader does have a prompt by default and if you interrupt the countdown. The prompt is, of course, Forth :) The BTX loader doesn't have a prompt at all. The kernel loader has a prompt, and the prompt is not written in Forth (yet). By BTX loader I refer to the BTX kernel and system which can bootstrap a kernel and load modules. There's already a perfectly good piece of code called the BTX Loader (btxldr); it's not appropriate to misapply this name to the loader proper. The prompt isn't OF Forth, I stated that the prompt TAKES Forth; perhaps I could have said that better. You meant that the prompt takes Forth, perhaps. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ m...@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msm...@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msm...@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Buildworld fails on today 3.1-STABLE!
Here is output (checked 2 times) :( ? === share/doc/psd/title touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) |? gzip -cn Title.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' === share/doc/psd/contents touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/contents; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/contents/contents.ms) |? gzip -cn contents.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' === share/doc/psd/05.sysman touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -ms -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/0.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.0.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.1.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.2.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.3.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.4.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.5.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.6.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/1.7.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/2.0.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/2.1.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/2.2.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/2.3.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/2.4.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/2.5.t /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/05.sysman/a.t) |? gzip -cn paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' === share/doc/psd/12.make touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/12.make/../../../../usr.bin/make/PSD.doc; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/12.make/../../../../usr.bin/make/PSD.doc/tutorial.ms) |? gzip -cn paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' === share/doc/psd/13.rcs === share/doc/psd/13.rcs/rcs touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/rcs/../../../../../gnu/usr.bin/rcs/doc; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -p -ms -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/rcs/../../../../../gnu/usr.bin/rcs/doc/rcs.ms) |? gzip -cn paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' === share/doc/psd/13.rcs/rcs_func touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/rcs_func/../../../../../gnu/usr.bin/rcs/doc; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/13.rcs/rcs_func/../../../../../gnu/usr.bin/rcs/doc/rcs_func.ms) |? gzip -cn rcs_func.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' === share/doc/psd/18.gprof touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -e -t -p -s -me -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/header.me /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/abstract.me /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/intro.me /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/profiling.me /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/gathering.me /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/postp.me /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/present.me /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/18.gprof/../../../../usr.bin/gprof/PSD.doc/refs.me) |? gzip -cn paper.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' === share/doc/psd/19.curses /usr/libexec/vfontedpr /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/ex1.c | grep -v ^'wh ex1.gr /usr/libexec/vfontedpr /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/twinkle1.c | grep -v ^'wh twinkle1.gr tbl /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/intro.2 intro.2.tbl tbl:/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/intro.2:40: `tab' option requires argument in parentheses touch _stamp.extraobjs sed -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(Master\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(intro.0\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(intro.1\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(intro.3\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(intro.4\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(intro.5\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(intro.6\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \ ]*\)\(macros\)$:\1/usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/19.curses/../../../../lib/libcurses/PSD.doc/\2:' -e\ 's:\(\.so[\ \ ][\ \
Re: Problems in VM structure ?
Matthew Dillon said: :maxusers 256 Try reducing maxusers to 128. Another person reported similar behavior to me and after a bunch of work he tried going back to a basic distribution -- and everything started working again. It turned out that a maxusers value of 256 and 512 were causing his machine to go poof, but a maxusers value of 128 worked fine. I haven't tracked the problem down yet. Please try reducing your maxusers to 128 and email the results to current. Likely because data structures are getting too big. The kernel is limited to (I forget) how big in VA space. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dy...@iquest.net | it makes one look stupid jdy...@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf
If I have a /etc/defaults/rc.conf, then my /etc/rc.conf won't be consulted. Wrong. You need to read just a bit FURTHER into that file before jumping to such conclusions. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
RE: Buildworld fails on today 3.1-STABLE!
=== share/doc/psd/title touch _stamp.extraobjs (cd /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/title; groff -mtty-char -Tascii -ms -o1- /usr/obj/src/share/doc/psd/title/Title) |_ gzip -cn Title.ascii.gz groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' This has happened to me many times with various versions of current and 3.x , and its always fixed by lowering the -O# # , I don't know why I just know it works :). I re cvsupped several times once, and erased obj, and it always did it until i lowered the -O. --- E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Buildworld fails on today 3.1-STABLE!
Luke wrote: === share/doc/psd/title [snip] groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' This has happened to me many times with various versions of current and 3.x , and its always fixed by lowering the -O# # , I don't know why I just know it works :). I re cvsupped several times once, and erased obj, and it always did it until i lowered the -O. Thanks! - That just fixed my problem... I was going to post a similar message along the lines of -current broken? - but you just saved me the embarassment! :)... I usually keep -O to just '-O' - I had been upping it recently, but then it started breaking even some of my simple programs, so leasson learn't, it's staying at just '-O' from now on in... (safety first? :-) -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: sysinstall - ALT F2 black screen
I'm installing on a ASUS P55T2P4 again on an IBM DHEA 38451 with the 3.0 STABLE install floppies. Making filesystem on wd0s1f took quite long and did not end. Trying to switch to the DEBUG screen (ALT F2) gives me a black screen. Anyone seen this? Works fine here on an 8GB Western Digital. Or is my hardware still screwed? Not finding the wdc controllers in previous efforts was caused by some special wiring the colleague added to disable the hard disks by a switch on the front panel (which took off power from the hard drive while leaving it cabled to the controller). Yuck. That's extra-bad. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ m...@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msm...@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msm...@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: sysinstall - ALT F2 black screen
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 12:26:46PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: I'm installing on a ASUS P55T2P4 again on an IBM DHEA 38451 with the 3.0 STABLE install floppies. Making filesystem on wd0s1f took quite long and did not end. Trying to switch to the DEBUG screen (ALT F2) gives me a black screen. Anyone seen this? Second boot and doing it all over again didn't show the black screen and the system got installed fine fed from ftp.freebsd.org. Thanks. Works fine here on an 8GB Western Digital. -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies k...@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Buildworld fails on today 3.1-STABLE!
I usually keep -O to just '-O' - I had been upping it recently, but then it started breaking even some of my simple programs, so leasson learn't, it's staying at just '-O' from now on in... (safety first? :-) -O2 works fine too. -O3 does not. We'll probably see the newer version of compiler before this is fixed. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
UID for SMTP daemon
Hi folks, I can think of two applications that offer smtp daemon services and like to run under their own uid -- postfix and exim. While I appreciate that Mr Bresler's import of postfix into the base system was shot down fair and square (or perhaps just square, don't go there), it does seem a pity that the user and group ids that he proposed to add didn't make it. There is already a precedent in the realm of creating users for applications that aren't distributed with the base system -- pop (uid 68). I couldn't give a sideways at a rolling doughnut what the actual name of the uid and gid are -- mta, mail, smtp, billsux, whatever. All I want is a username that the exim port (and other ports, once there's a trend) can assume will be present on the box. PLEASE NOTE: I'm not interested in folks' opinions on this. I don't want to have a discussion. I just want the uid and gid committed. I'll take no comment as objection enough if nobody wants to commit this. Anything else is just going to be more noise on a noisy list. :-) Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: UID for SMTP daemon
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:12:41 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: PLEASE NOTE: I'm not interested in folks' opinions on this. I don't want to have a discussion. I just want the uid and gid committed. So much for not discussing this. Sorry, all I want is the user committed. Group mail already exists and will suffice. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Staroffice 5.0 under 4.0-current
I'm running 4.0-current as of late last week, elf kernel. Everything works great - no problems. I understand that the Linux kernel threads stuff is now in my system by default, so I should be able to download and install StarOffice 5.0. Others on the list have confirmed that it works. I, however, am unable to get it running. The setup program continually complains about not finding the glibc2 libraries, even after I extracted them into /compat/linux/lib and reran /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. Any help would be greatly appreciated. FWIW - Linux Wp7, and several others work just fine Al To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Aladdin chipset SMBus support available!
On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 11:09:45PM +0100, Nicolas Souchu wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 04:30:27PM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: On spd I would get an error message, and if I ever did spd 1 it got as far as printing 128 bytes used, then erred out... rm alpm.o ; make CC=cc -DDEBUG I'll rm alpm.o; CC='cc -DDEBUG' make alpm.o; make, if that's what you mean. any difference? I meant any difference between the two command lines? -- nso...@teaser.fr / nso...@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Aladdin chipset SMBus support available!
On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 07:41:25PM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 04:30:27PM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: On spd I would get an error message, and if I ever did spd 1 it got as far as printing 128 bytes used, then erred out... rm alpm.o ; make CC=cc -DDEBUG I'll rm alpm.o; CC='cc -DDEBUG' make alpm.o; make, if that's what you mean. any difference? Yes: Feb 14 17:12:16 green /kernel: alpm: idle? STS=0x0 Feb 14 17:12:48 green last message repeated 380 times Feb 14 17:13:14 green last message repeated 5 times The controller seems to stick on the bus. The Linux team has reported such problems with there own driver and couldn't do anything (reset of controller, SMBus abort...). The problem seem to have disappeared with an additional device plugged on the bus. I'll dig into your problem, but yet, I have no problem with the ASUS. I'll browse the datasheets.. -- nso...@teaser.fr / nso...@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ gr...@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ _ |___/___/___/ -- nso...@teaser.fr / nso...@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Buildworld fails on today 3.1-STABLE!
Maxim Sobolev wrote: Here is output (checked 2 times) :( groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' [super-snip] | groff -mtty-char -Tascii -t -s -me -o1- /dev/null groff: can't find `DESC' file groff:fatal error: invalid device `ascii' Ugh, did you have to send so much output? :-) - What -O setting are you using to build with? - Someone reported (and I've seen myself) - upping it will cause the problems above... (I'm not saying it's the only cause, but it got me :) -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Network Cards
On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 06:01:52AM -0500, Rod Taylor wrote: Suppose you have xl and vr in your computer. They are named eth0 and eth1, respectively. You then replace your vr by a ed. Mark But then if I added another say ed0, it wouldn't get eth2 :) But yeah, I understand where you're going... Not fully. I service fbsd routers with up to 12 ethernet cards. 8 isa cards + 4 pci on advantech prompc computer. And when a cableman add card to a router, (ctrl-alt-del, poweroff, screw card, power on) he install card corresponded to driver name, and set io/irq/mem corresponded to number. -- Igor Nikolaev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
RE: Problems in VM structure ?
I'm seeing different responses depending on hardware. On regular Pentium 166 machines, I almost NEVER get a panic. On brand-new Pentium II 350s, I get a panic every 6-9 hours. This happens when both kernels are configured the same for maxusers. It happens when both machines are under the same load level -- the P5 stays rock solid, the P6 flakes out. What's the chance that our kernel adaptations for PIIs is partly at fault? -Troy Cobb Circle Net, Inc. http://www.circle.net -Original Message- From: Brian Feldman [mailto:gr...@unixhelp.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 7:48 AM To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Khetan Gajjar; curr...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems in VM structure ? On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :maxusers 256 Try reducing maxusers to 128. Another person reported similar behavior to me and after a bunch of work he tried going back to a basic distribution -- and everything started working again. It turned out that a maxusers value of 256 and 512 were causing his machine to go poof, but a maxusers value of 128 worked fine. I haven't tracked the problem down yet. Please try reducing your maxusers to 128 and email the results to current. For what it's worth, my maxusers is 250 and my system is quite stable, even during a make -j25 buildworld. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message Brian Feldman_ __ ___ ___ ___ gr...@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
SMP and SO5.0
Hi,
I downloaded Star Office 5 and only THEN realised that the code for doing linux
thread
emulation is #ifndef SMP :) Still, after downloading 70 meg over a 56k modem
and paying
19c/meg I was gonna try the sucker regardless.. And well, it works!
The install hung at the end, after its done everything, so I killed it, but
after that I
can run it with (seemingly) no problems.. (Except for the 2000 odd 'shared
address space
fork attempted' messages in my syslog)
I only had a quick fiddle, but it started up everything fine and ran quite
well..
The install was a pain tho, as I had to unpack the setup program (its a self
extracting
zip) and rename the libs in it to lower case and then add an LD_LIBRARY_PATH to
point to
them, but apart from that it was OK.
Its worth noting though, that eMusic which uses Linux threads doesn't work under
emulation (it just hangs) I think I'll boot a non-SMP kernel and have a go
('cause it
took me an hour to find all of the $...@$ dependancies it needs because Linux
ldd doesn't
work anymore)
---
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from.
-- Andrew Tanenbaum
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Re: inode / exec_map interlock ? (follow up)
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, John S. Dyson wrote: If we can get ALC to agree, I prefer him to be the first line (but I am willing to fill-in and support DG and ALC when needed.) ... I am willing. In the meantime, let's try to cool things down a bit. Alan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Buildworld fails on today 3.1-STABLE!
I usually keep -O to just '-O' - I had been upping it recently, but then it started breaking even some of my simple programs, so leasson learn't, it's staying at just '-O' from now on in... (safety first? :-) -O2 works fine too. -O3 does not. We'll probably see the newer version of compiler before this is fixed. No, -O2 does not work fine; we've seen reports of it breaking things before. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ m...@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msm...@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msm...@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: SMP and SO5.0
Hi,
I downloaded Star Office 5 and only THEN realised that the code for doing
linux thread
emulation is #ifndef SMP :) Still, after downloading 70 meg over a 56k modem
and paying
19c/meg I was gonna try the sucker regardless.. And well, it works!
The install hung at the end, after its done everything, so I killed it, but
after that I
can run it with (seemingly) no problems.. (Except for the 2000 odd 'shared
address space
fork attempted' messages in my syslog)
I only had a quick fiddle, but it started up everything fine and ran quite
well..
The install was a pain tho, as I had to unpack the setup program (its a self
extracting
zip) and rename the libs in it to lower case and then add an LD_LIBRARY_PATH
to point to
them, but apart from that it was OK.
Its worth noting though, that eMusic which uses Linux threads doesn't work
under
emulation (it just hangs) I think I'll boot a non-SMP kernel and have a go
('cause it
took me an hour to find all of the $...@$ dependancies it needs because Linux
ldd doesn't
work anymore)
---
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from.
-- Andrew Tanenbaum
You may try my patch at http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi, which would allow
linux threads to run on SMP.
-lq
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Re: SMP and SO5.0
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote:
Hi,
I downloaded Star Office 5 and only THEN realised that the code for doing
linux thread
emulation is #ifndef SMP :) Still, after downloading 70 meg over a 56k
modem and paying
19c/meg I was gonna try the sucker regardless.. And well, it works!
The install hung at the end, after its done everything, so I killed it, but
after that I
can run it with (seemingly) no problems.. (Except for the 2000 odd 'shared
address space
fork attempted' messages in my syslog)
I only had a quick fiddle, but it started up everything fine and ran quite
well..
The install was a pain tho, as I had to unpack the setup program (its a
self extracting
zip) and rename the libs in it to lower case and then add an
LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to
them, but apart from that it was OK.
Its worth noting though, that eMusic which uses Linux threads doesn't work
under
emulation (it just hangs) I think I'll boot a non-SMP kernel and have a go
('cause it
took me an hour to find all of the $...@$ dependancies it needs because
Linux ldd doesn't
work anymore)
---
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from.
-- Andrew Tanenbaum
You may try my patch at http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi, which would allow
linux threads to run on SMP.
-lq
With any form of kernel threads not working, and aio being highly unstable for
SMP because of the VM system, is it not worthwhile to actually implement or
merge the changes like this?
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Re: runsocks (Was Re: gpib driver - does anybody use it?)
In message pine.osf.4.05.9902101658550.21416-100...@mercury.physics.adelaide.edu.au Kris Kennaway writes: : runsocks works fine for me in socksifying the stuff I use it for : (FTP clients, simple TCP apps, etc). What are you having problems : with? I have verified that runsocks works with both a.out and elf binaries (but not both at the same time) with the most current port. It does not work for statically linked binaries. Anything outside of that are that isn't pilot error is a bug that I'd be interested in... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: runsocks (Was Re: gpib driver - does anybody use it?)
In message 19990210135902.a7...@internal Andre Albsmeier writes: : Hmm, just finished my 3.1 upgrade, compiled socks and runsocks seems : to work now. The only thing that doesn't work is compiling the telnet : included with socks5: : : cc -I. -I../../include -I./../../include -O -pipe -DANDRE -D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__ -DHAVE_SETUPTERM -DSOCKS -DINCLUDE_PROTOTYPES -DKLUDGELINEMODE -DSOCKS -DINCLUDE_PROTOTYPES -o telnet authenc.o commands.o main.o network.o ring.o sys_bsd.o telnet.o terminal.o tn3270.o utilities.o -L../../lib -lsocks5 -lcrypt -lncurses -Llibtelnet -ltelnet : telnet.o: In function `gettermname': : telnet.o(.text+0x9f2): undefined reference to `ttytype' : *** Error code 1 (continuing) : `all' not remade because of errors. : : But this doesn't bother me because always I runsocks the FreeBSD telnet. : : Anyway, I will keep on experimenting on my home machine (where it failed : yesterday) and look what happened. Maybe it was just to late in the evening Ah yes. the telnet bug. I had forgotten about that one. I'll try to fix it shortly. In fact, most of the r utilities that socks creates could likely be better integrated with FreeBSD's commands. I'll look into how hard that would be. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: runsocks (Was Re: gpib driver - does anybody use it?)
In message pine.osf.4.05.9902120002140.29581-100...@mercury.physics.adelaide.edu.au Kris Kennaway writes: : Yeah, this doesn't comple for some reason as of about 1.0r4. The port just : doesn't bother trying to install it - no-one's cared enough to look at why : it's broken and how to fix it. It is broken because it assume too many implementation details about symbols being defined. A more accurate description would be that no one has cared enough to actually fix it. :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: How to power off an ATX power supply machine on shutdown ?
In message pine.bsf.4.05.9902120005080.38269-100...@localhost Matthew Thyer writes: : I have apm in the kernel and it probes as apm v 1.2 but when : the shutdown -p now command is run, the power is not turned : off and I have to hold down the power button for 4 seconds to : turn it off. : : Hows it done ? You need to set apm_enabled=YES in your rc.conf file. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: lpt0
In message 199902141331.faa27...@hub.freebsd.org Jonathan M. Bresler writes: : how much information about this should be included in : /usr/src/UPDATING? the entry there talks about the change but does : not provide enough information to successfully upgrade (ppc0 is not : mentioned, nor does it provide a pointer to where to go for more : information.) ;( I'm about to commit a change to UPDATING to point to this URL and man page. I'm just now catching up from being gone for a week. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Aladdin chipset SMBus support available!
: Not to stop you in your tracks, but I would really love to see : somebody (more capable than the PAO people) work out a power : management architecture for us before we have too many more : hacks in this area... I'd have to agree that a unified power management architecture would be a good thing. There is also the new APCI to consider as well. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
HEADS UP: Don't abuse heads up
I have a request. In order to make it easier for me to know what to put into UPDATING in a timely manner, I do a scan +freebsd-current | egrep -i 'heads* up'. Please do not have long discussions with the heads up phrase in the subject line, if you can avoid it. That will make my job easier. Thanks. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
You Got To Love the New Kind of Spam 8)
SGI is releasing GLX 8) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/990216/ca_silicon_2.html Have Fun, Amancio P.S.: If companies start dumping large packages is going to weight us down :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: runsocks (Was Re: gpib driver - does anybody use it?)
On Tue, 16-Feb-1999 at 22:05:05 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message pine.osf.4.05.9902101658550.21416-100...@mercury.physics.adelaide.edu.au Kris Kennaway writes: : runsocks works fine for me in socksifying the stuff I use it for : (FTP clients, simple TCP apps, etc). What are you having problems : with? I have verified that runsocks works with both a.out and elf binaries (but not both at the same time) with the most current port. It does not work for statically linked binaries. Anything outside of that are that isn't pilot error is a bug that I'd be interested in... Must have been a pilot error. Now it's working (The first time, I did it very late at night :-)). -Andre Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: VM patch.. SMP and SO5.0
who's looked at this. It looks to me that this is serious stuff spliting the pmap out of the vmspace structure is a big change. caertainly a logical move but requires checking.. I guess it should be refered to the VM cabal. I presume that this is to be done in conjunction with the linuxthreads (and native threads) code already committed... What exactly is the reason for separating them? julian On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: You may try my patch at http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi, which would allow linux threads to run on SMP. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: SMP and SO5.0
I'm not sure why you need a different page directory for each processor. what's your thinking on this? You might add some comments in your patches so that if becomes more obvious what you are doing... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: You Got To Love the New Kind of Spam 8)
Amancio Hasty wrote... SGI is releasing GLX 8) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/990216/ca_silicon_2.html Have Fun, Amancio P.S.: If companies start dumping large packages is going to weight us down :( Heh. That's pretty cool. Although I wouldn't say that GLX itself is exactly huge. What they've released is basically the X server side connecting glue that allows connecting up OpenGL to an X server. Here's a snippet from the readme: = GLX is used to connect an X server and an OpenGL implementation. By itself, the GLX distribution is incomplete. XFree86 (or other code based on the X11R6 release) provides the X server. = They aren't releasing, however, their OpenGL implementation. Here's what they said about that: = Please do not deluge SGI with requests to make our SI available as open source. We are fully aware of the issues involved. = Apparantly Red Hat and some other company (Precision Insight) are working on getting Mesa to work with GLX. Ken -- Kenneth Merry k...@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: SMP and SO5.0
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: You may try my patch at http://www.freebsd.org/~luoqi, which would allow linux threads to run on SMP. I've gone through these patches and I can see that they are really needed for SMP where address spaces are shared. There are details I didn't get, such as where is the per-processor pde pointed, (i.e. where is the per processor KVM range) and is there a single page table for each processor that is always mapped into the processor specific slot for that process. another question that is raised I guess is how do we tell gdb to switch between processors when reading core-dumps :-). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf
On Tuesday, 16 February 1999 at 9:24:31 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: If I have a /etc/defaults/rc.conf, then my /etc/rc.conf won't be consulted. Wrong. You need to read just a bit FURTHER into that file before jumping to such conclusions. :-) Been there, done that. Next thing is to write a book about it. Can I hope that it won't change again this year? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger g...@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
