Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-22 Thread G. Adam Stanislav

At 15:49 22-05-2000 +0400, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote:
>I wish this page has less FUD about Unicode.  Reference to Unicode
>being controlled by Microsoft is a prominent example.

It was true when it was written. It is a very old page: I completely forgot
it was still there. The situation with Unicode Consortium has improved
since then.

Adam


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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-22 Thread David E. Cross

> On May 21/2000, Clive Lin wrote to -current&-i18n:
> > > The only way i found to link motif programs is by using
> > >
> > >   http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/wcs-19990606.tar.gz
> >
> >This seems the solution of wc* routines in FreeBSD.
> >
> >Could any one tell us, is this project dead ?
> 
> Last I knew, David Cross (aka 'crossd') still intended to get the
> above work installed in freebsd.  I think he was waiting for some
> other piece to be installed (the name of which I don't remember,
> but he's mentioned it a few times in hackers or current in the
> past few months).  He recently got commit-ability (ahem), so there
> may be some progress on this soon.
> 
> I know he's been busy with several other projects in the last few
> weeks, but I'm copying him on this message to see if we can get a
> status update.  I don't know if he follows the i18n list.

Porting CDE and Motif was the exact reason that those functions exist :)

That project is still quite alive and kicking, even if delayed a bit.
I have been meaning to finish up the wcs*() functions, and port the NLS
support from OpenBSD into Free.  I am eager to see that a general interest 
in this exists.  I have been meaning to subscribe to the i18n list, as I 
knew wcs*() would be brought up there sooner or later :)

My next message will be to subscribe to that list.

PS: IIRC the version at that URL has a typo in it where _t should become _r in
one of the functions.

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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-22 Thread Garance A Drosihn

On May 21/2000, Clive Lin wrote to -current&-i18n:
> > The only way i found to link motif programs is by using
> >
> >   http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/wcs-19990606.tar.gz
>
>This seems the solution of wc* routines in FreeBSD.
>
>Could any one tell us, is this project dead ?

Last I knew, David Cross (aka 'crossd') still intended to get the
above work installed in freebsd.  I think he was waiting for some
other piece to be installed (the name of which I don't remember,
but he's mentioned it a few times in hackers or current in the
past few months).  He recently got commit-ability (ahem), so there
may be some progress on this soon.

I know he's been busy with several other projects in the last few
weeks, but I'm copying him on this message to see if we can get a
status update.  I don't know if he follows the i18n list.


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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-22 Thread Valeriy E. Ushakov

On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 13:26:22 +0200, Thomas Runge wrote:

> Look here: http://www.whizkidtech.net/i18n/wc/

I wish this page has less FUD about Unicode.  Reference to Unicode
being controlled by Microsoft is a prominent example.  As for the list
of problems with Unicode given on that page - all of the items in the
list are arguable and, IMO, all can be refuted.

I do have first-hand experience of working with Unicode consortium (I
have contributed to extensions of Tibetan block in 3.0).  I want to
say for the record that people from Unicode/WG2 I worked with were
very open-minded, helpful and professional.  Oh, and none of them was
from Microsoft ;-).

SY, Uwe
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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-22 Thread Thomas Runge

Clive Lin wrote:

> Could any one tell us, is this project dead ?
> Will this be in the src/ ?
> Or still in long-long beta (even pre-alpha ?) testing.. ?
> Or .. ?

Look here: http://www.whizkidtech.net/i18n/wc/

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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-20 Thread Clive Lin

Hi, 

On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 02:07:19AM +0200, Norbert Irmer wrote:
> The only way i found to link motif programs is by using 
> 
>   http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/wcs-19990606.tar.gz
This seems the solution of wc* routines in FreeBSD.

Could any one tell us, is this project dead ?
Will this be in the src/ ?
Or still in long-long beta (even pre-alpha ?) testing.. ?
Or .. ?

Thanks all.

> (as Garance Alistair Drosehn recommended in his letter on this subject) 

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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-20 Thread Norbert Irmer

Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Norbert Irmer writes:
> : gcc -o airport -O2 -pipe -L../../../exports/lib  -L../../../imports/x11/lib 
>main.o dragsource.o
> : dropsite.o -lXm -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXp -lXext -lX11  -L/usr/X11R6/lib  
>-L/usr/X11R6/lib   -lm
> 
> Have you tried adding -lxpg4 to the command line?
> 
> Warner
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Yes, i tried this, but without success. If you do a "nm /usr/lib/libxgp4.a"
you will see that this library doesn't contains functions with these names.

(and the "config/FreeBSD.cf" file for Imake contains: 

  #if OSMajorVersion > 2 || (OSMajorVersion == 2 && OSMinorVersion >= 2)
  #define ExtraLibraries  -lxpg4

, so this cannot be the reason)

The only way i found to link motif programs is by using 

  http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/wcs-19990606.tar.gz

(as Garance Alistair Drosehn recommended in his letter on this subject) 

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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-20 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Norbert Irmer writes:
: gcc -o airport -O2 -pipe -L../../../exports/lib  -L../../../imports/x11/lib 
:main.o dragsource.o
: dropsite.o -lXm -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXp -lXext -lX11  -L/usr/X11R6/lib  
:-L/usr/X11R6/lib   -lm  

Have you tried adding -lxpg4 to the command line?

Warner


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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-20 Thread Norbert Irmer

Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> 
> (This should move to freebsd-i18n.)
> 
> Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Anyone like the idea of adding wide char support to our libc?
> 
> I'd like the idea of somebody explaining where/how I can get an
> overview of what's missing in the first place.
> 
> > Maybe we could port it over from {Net,Open}BSD or BSDi.
> 
> Assuming any of those have it, in the first place. I'm fairly sure,
> NetBSD and OpenBSD don't.
> 
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You get the following when trying to link with OpenMotif

gcc -o airport -O2 -pipe -L../../../exports/lib  -L../../../imports/x11/lib main.o 
dragsource.o
dropsite.o -lXm -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXp -lXext -lX11  -L/usr/X11R6/lib  -L/usr/X11R6/lib  
 -lm  
../../../imports/x11/lib/libXm.so: undefined reference to `wcslen'
../../../imports/x11/lib/libXm.so: undefined reference to `wcscpy'
../../../imports/x11/lib/libXm.so: undefined reference to `wcschr'
../../../imports/x11/lib/libXm.so: undefined reference to `wcsncat'
../../../imports/x11/lib/libXm.so: undefined reference to `wcscat'
*** Error code 1

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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-18 Thread Christian Weisgerber

(This should move to freebsd-i18n.)

Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone like the idea of adding wide char support to our libc?

I'd like the idea of somebody explaining where/how I can get an
overview of what's missing in the first place.

> Maybe we could port it over from {Net,Open}BSD or BSDi.

Assuming any of those have it, in the first place. I'm fairly sure,
NetBSD and OpenBSD don't.

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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-17 Thread Garance A Drosihn

At 2:41 AM -0400 5/17/00, Thimble Smith wrote:
>On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 11:52:32PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote:
> > Anyone like the idea of adding wide char support to our libc?  Maybe
> > we could port it over from {Net,Open}BSD or BSDi.  This would add the
> > header file , etc.
>
>There's a mailing list, freebsd-i18n, that seems to be very active
>regarding this topic (the archives show 0 posts).
>
>The latest I found on it (searching the archives) is this:
>
>http://www.whizkidtech.net/i18n/wc/

As was recently posted to freebsd-java:

There's a "wchar" implementation available on
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd/FreeBSD/wcs-19990606.tar.gz

I have tried it myself and it works as expected, meaning
that I was able to successfully link a Motif program.


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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-16 Thread Chris Piazza

On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:41:59AM -0400, Thimble Smith wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 11:52:32PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote:
> > Anyone like the idea of adding wide char support to our libc?  Maybe
> > we could port it over from {Net,Open}BSD or BSDi.  This would add the
> > header file , etc.
> 
> There's a mailing list, freebsd-i18n, that seems to be very active
> regarding this topic (the archives show 0 posts).

It's probably not being archived properly.  I subscribed to this list
on the 24th of april and the first message was on the 5th of may.

% grep '^From ' freebsd-i18n | wc -l
  19 

Nothing was said about wc* in those 19 messages anyway.

> 
> The latest I found on it (searching the archives) is this:
> 
> http://www.whizkidtech.net/i18n/wc/
> 
> As far as I can tell, nothing's been done since last May.

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Re: Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-16 Thread Thimble Smith

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 11:52:32PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote:
> Anyone like the idea of adding wide char support to our libc?  Maybe
> we could port it over from {Net,Open}BSD or BSDi.  This would add the
> header file , etc.

There's a mailing list, freebsd-i18n, that seems to be very active
regarding this topic (the archives show 0 posts).

The latest I found on it (searching the archives) is this:

http://www.whizkidtech.net/i18n/wc/

As far as I can tell, nothing's been done since last May.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3798228+3803182+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-hackers/19990509.freebsd-hackers

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Wide-char support and libc

2000-05-16 Thread Donn Miller

Anyone like the idea of adding wide char support to our libc?  Maybe
we could port it over from {Net,Open}BSD or BSDi.  This would add the
header file , etc.

 
- Donn


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