Re: Speed up dialin connection via proxy?

2005-01-15 Thread tjlists
 Timothy Luoma wrote:

 I cannot get high speed internet access at home.  In fact, I can't get
 more than about 26400 on my dialup.

 That sux

Yup, especially after several years of having cable access @ our previous
house/apartment.


 Anything else I could do to speed things up?

 ISDN? Direct TV? Cable? DSL?

DSL = too far from the local hub

ISDN = doubtful

Cable = possibly this fall.  Our cable company was bought by a new company
which says that it is dedicated to expanding rural coverage (it ends about
a mile from our house, I think).

DirecTV = Had DirecWay installed for less than a month.  They wanted
$60/month, a Windows OS, no wireless (I understand that they have since
come out with a way to overcome those two limitations).. but the bottom
line is that it was really not much faster than dialup for regular
browsing.  For downloading a file, yes; but when you went somewhere like
Amazon.com with a lot of images and other external files, it really slowed
down (this was 2 way satellite, no phone line.  We had it uninstalled
before 30 days so we could get our money back ... except the $180
installation fee :-/

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Creating your own FreeBSD install CD-ROM

2005-01-15 Thread David Landgren
List,
how does one go about creating a FreeBSD install CD-ROM? I'd like to be 
able to build my own CD-ROM with as much as possible of the install 
process done automatically. For instance, what parts of FreeBSD to 
install: X or not, games or not, etc. etc. And which ports to install 
straight away. I could also set up cfengine so that as soon as the 
machine came to life it could go and connect to my cfengine repository 
and download all the latest configurations to move into operational status.

E.g., I'd like to just have to specify the partition layout, the name 
and IP of the machine, and its role(s): (web, dns, squid, mta, samba...)

This would make rebuilding so much faster if a machine was 
catastrophically trashed. And it would make my computing installation 
much less dependent on me.

Thanks for any pointers to documentation on the subject, I'm sure people 
have done this before, but I can't coax the results out from my web 
searches.

Thanks,
David
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gvinum start

2005-01-15 Thread Dikshie

dear all,
how to start gvinum automaticallly on boot ?
/etc/default/rc.conf only contain start_vinum= 



thanks !

-dikshie-
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Xian
On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote:
 Hi,

 I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows.  Do you know
 of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)?  I might
 be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I
 know about the options:

 Alternatives for:

This is what I use, it all came from the ports collection and installed 
without fuss.
 - MS Office XP.  I don't think he has very complex documents.
The office collection that comes with KDE
 - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop.  I am not convinced that he edits or creates
 images.
 - WinRAR and WinZIP
 - WinAMP
Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP
 - Virtual CD
 - Some kind of CD Burner
I use burncd and mkisofs from the command line. Can't be bothered with getting 
a GUI one at the moment
 - Some DVD Player
Ogle, tho I need to set OGLE_OSS_RESET_BUG environment variable, cos there's 
something up with the sound drivers for my machine (FreeBSD 5.3R and onboard 
sound on a A7V600-X motherboard). Now that's worked around Ogle is extreamly 
good, it does DVD menus as well.
 - AC3filter
 - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this)



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Do not worry about your difficulties in Mathematics. I can assure you mine 
are still greater.
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
Sergei Gnezdov wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows.  Do you know
 of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)?  I might
 be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make sure that I
 know about the options:

Hello Sergei,

Here's short list what I use / would use:

 Alternatives for:
 
 - MS Office XP.  I don't think he has very complex documents.

OpenOffice

 - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop.  I am not convinced that he edits or creates
 images.

GIMP (to create/modify images)

 - WinRAR and WinZIP

There are several command line tools in /usr/ports/archivers.
As for GUI: If you're using KDE there's ARK in kdeutils. Gnome should
have something similar.

 - WinAMP

XMMS

 - Virtual CD

don't know this software

 - Some kind of CD Burner

burncd with mkisofs works great if you don't mind command line.
K3b (/usr/ports/sysutils/k3b) is great if you like GUI .

 - Some DVD Player
 - AC3filter

mplayer (all you need is in there already)

 - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this)

I cannot comment on this but mplayer is supposed to do that.


Regards,

Karol

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Re: phpMyAdmin installation troubles...

2005-01-15 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Jan 14 at 16:17, Eric F Crist reported:

 I'm trying to install phpmyadmin from ports.  I keep getting an error about 
 PDF-Lite-6.0.0p1.tar.gz.  The only files available  now are 6.0.1.  I've done 
 a cvsup, but to no avail.


Several days ago I encountered the same situation.

FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE
Same error exactly
Same steps followed, same outcome

The difference is I didn't post it - mainly because I thought I was kind 
of over my help quota with MySQL, php etc etc.

Regards,
-Colin
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Re: Odd (alarming) http log exerpt [followup]

2005-01-15 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Jan 14 at 10:22, Duo made this excellent suggestion:

 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote:

 I noticed something extremely odd this morning in my http access log.
 There's the usual activity, then suddenly this (about a hundred lines
 are snipped)
 
  Is there anything within...say httpd.conf..that I could do to prevent
 this..or curtail it before it grows to such an enormous size.

 Why, yes there is! For the low low price of FREE, here is something you can 
 do for fun and giggles.

 IfModule mod_rewrite.c
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)cmd.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)root.exe(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_vti_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/scripts\/\.\.(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/_mem_bin\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/msadc\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/MSADC\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/c\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/d\/winnt\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 RedirectMatch permanent (.*)\/x90\/(.*)$ http://www.microsoft.com
 /IfModule


I've googled extensively on conditional logging, but the syntax makes my 
head spin. Following Duo posting this gem yesterday, I planted the whole 
lot in my httpd.conf. This morning I had a similar occurrence of a 
WebDAV exploit which again porked out the logfile.


As a followup question to this outstanding contribution, can anyone 
suggest a way of conditional logging which does any or all of the 
following:

a) logs [simply] that a redirect in any of the above categories has 
happened

b) Supresses the verbose output normally associated with one of the 
above conditions happening

In other words you know it happened, but just in a non-verbose way, and 
you know the redirect worked.

Regards  TIA,
-Colin
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Apache2 Conditional Logging help

2005-01-15 Thread Colin J. Raven
I'm trying to supress logging of such things as favicon.ico, gifs and 
jpegs. In a home server environment (right now anyway) I just don't 
think it's necessary to log serving of those items.

Accordingly, some googling seemed to point me towards doing something 
like this:

SetEnvIf Request_URI \.gif$ dontlog
SetEnvIf Request_URI \.jpg$ dontlog
SetEnvIf Request_URI \.jpeg$ dontlog

But this doesn't work - at all. Images are still being logged
My images are in /path/to/web_data/images, so perhaps that has something 
to do with it. I can't figure out the syntax to accomplish calling the 
path proerly though. Various kinds of fiddling with the syntax and 
restarting httpd hasn't worked.

Part of the problem is that apachectl configtest doesn't complain about 
syntax no matter how I fiddle with any of these. It just reports Syntax 
OK and when I restart there are no logfile errors.


# This one shuts down *all* (access) logging, which is truly puzzling:

# SetEnvIf Request_URI \.gif$ object_is_image=gif dontlog
# SetEnvIf Request_URI \.jpg$ object_is_image=jpg dontlog


Some help would definitely be appreciated!!

Regards  TIA,
-Colin
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Frank Staals
Karol Kwiatkowski wrote:
 

- Virtual CD
   

don't know this software
 

Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like 
alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : 
man mount_cd9660

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Re: Apache2 Conditional Logging help [Followup]

2005-01-15 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Jan 15 at 12:26, I said:

 I'm trying to supress logging of such things as favicon.ico, gifs and
 jpegs. In a home server environment (right now anyway) I just don't
 think it's necessary to log serving of those items.

 Accordingly, some googling seemed to point me towards doing something
 like this:
 
 SetEnvIf Request_URI \.gif$ dontlog
 SetEnvIf Request_URI \.jpg$ dontlog
 SetEnvIf Request_URI \.jpeg$ dontlog

 But this doesn't work - at all. Images are still being logged
 My images are in /path/to/web_data/images, so perhaps that has something
 to do with it. I can't figure out the syntax to accomplish calling the
 path proerly though. Various kinds of fiddling with the syntax and
 restarting httpd hasn't worked.

 Part of the problem is that apachectl configtest doesn't complain about
 syntax no matter how I fiddle with any of these. It just reports Syntax
 OK and when I restart there are no logfile errors.

FOLLOWUP
I found this gem at:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/env.html#examples

SetEnvIf Request_URI \.gif image-request
SetEnvIf Request_URI \.jpg image-request
SetEnvIf Request_URI \.png image-request
CustomLog /var/log/httpd-access.log combined env=!image-request

Restarted httpd and no more images (of the kind described above anyway) 
were logged.

Still outstanding is the other task of conditionally logging attempted 
exploits, (but not the output)  and confirming URL-rewriting is working 
as per my other post this morning.

Regards to all,
-Colin
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kernel panic on umass drive

2005-01-15 Thread Xian
I have small USB flash drive that has worked quite well up until now with 
FreeBSD. I've found I have to boot with it plugged in as when I don't will 
give a line in dmesg:

umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5

but it only give the lines 

umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: Generic USB Flash Disk 1.00 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device 
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: 31MB (63904 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 31C)

I found that when I didn't have the da0 lines (It wasn't in the machine on 
boot) and I pulled the drive out it the kernel panicked about a page fault. 
The instruction pointer was 0xc0489e5b, and current process was 31 (irq21: 
uhci0 uhci1*).

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] %nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c0489e5
c0489e50 t uhci_check_intr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] %uname -a
FreeBSD hercules.codepad.net 5.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 #6: Fri Jan 
14 23:59:29 GMT 2005 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HERCULES i386

Also a yesterday I compiled in device ehci and the kernel panicked on boot 
when just after it had detected umass when the drive was plugged in. So I 
compiled it out again.

I have had other USB Flash drives work properly on earlier version(s) of 
either 5.2.1R or 5.3R, I can't remember.

I'm not sure how to get round this, or who this information would help. Any 
help will be very much appreciated, or who to send this info to.

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Re: gvinum start

2005-01-15 Thread Xian
On Saturday 15 January 2005 10:37, Dikshie wrote:
 dear all,
 how to start gvinum automaticallly on boot ?
 /etc/default/rc.conf only contain start_vinum= 



 thanks !

 -dikshie-

You could try start_vinum=YES a lot of things start like that.

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After a while, you realize the pig is enjoying it.
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Re: kernel panic on umass drive

2005-01-15 Thread Xian
On Saturday 15 January 2005 11:52, Xian wrote:
 I have small USB flash drive that has worked quite well up until now with
 FreeBSD. I've found I have to boot with it plugged in as when I don't will
 give a line in dmesg:

 umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5

 but it only give the lines
Sorry, I meant it only gives the following when it is plugged in on boot

 umass0: Generic USB Flash Disk, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 5
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: Generic USB Flash Disk 1.00 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device
 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 31MB (63904 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 31C)

 I found that when I didn't have the da0 lines (It wasn't in the machine on
 boot) and I pulled the drive out it the kernel panicked about a page fault.
 The instruction pointer was 0xc0489e5b, and current process was 31 (irq21:
 uhci0 uhci1*).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] %nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep c0489e5
 c0489e50 t uhci_check_intr
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] %uname -a
 FreeBSD hercules.codepad.net 5.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 #6: Fri
 Jan 14 23:59:29 GMT 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HERCULES i386

 Also a yesterday I compiled in device ehci and the kernel panicked on
 boot when just after it had detected umass when the drive was plugged in.
 So I compiled it out again.

 I have had other USB Flash drives work properly on earlier version(s) of
 either 5.2.1R or 5.3R, I can't remember.

 I'm not sure how to get round this, or who this information would help. Any
 help will be very much appreciated, or who to send this info to.



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gstreamer error

2005-01-15 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
Hi 
i istalled rhythmbox and get this error 
Failed to create the player: Coldn't initialize scheduler. Did you run
gst-register?

then i run gst-register and this is the error


.
..
Added plugin dvdreadsrc with 1 feature.
Added plugin cdparanoia with 1 feature.
Added plugin artsdsink with 1 feature.
Added plugin aasink with 1 feature.
Added plugin cdplayer with 1 feature.
Bus error (core dumped)

I can't use rhythmbox :-(

what can i do

thanks



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dump performance

2005-01-15 Thread Toomas Aas
Hello!
I'm following the procedure in the NEW-HUGE-DISK FAQ entry to move my 
system to bigger disks. In a nutshell, the dump/restore combo 
recommended there seems painfully slow.

For example, I have newfs-ed the partition which is to become /usr with 
the newfs default parameters and mounted it as /mnt/usr. Then I do:

# cd /mnt/usr
# dump 0af - /usr | restore xf -
The procedure starts, and after running for 5 minutes it informs me that 
dumping is 8.35 % done and should be complete in 54 minutes. This is a 
total of 1 hour for a partition that holds approximately 2.2 GB of data, 
making the speed somewhere about 40 MB/minute. Maybe it's just me but it 
seems way too slow.

I tried adding -b 64 and -C 32 switches to dump, and -b 64 to restore. 
This speeds up the process ca 50 %, but it still means 40 minutes for 
this partition. 40 minutes is maybe not so bad, but at this speed my 
/home partition which is 65 GB full would take approximately 18 hours!

Tar, on the other hand, did the entire /usr partition in 15 minutes:
# cd /mnt
# tar cf - -C / usr | tar xf -
The source partition is on ATA RAID1 array, consisting of two ATA133 
disks attached to Promise TX2 controller. The disks are recognized as 
ATA133 in dmesg. The destination partition is on an ATA100 disk, 
attached to ICH4 controller. This disk is recognized as ATA100 in dmesg.

Are these speeds normal for dump, or am I missing something?
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Re: dump performance

2005-01-15 Thread Toomas Aas
Toomas Aas wrote:
I'm following the procedure in the NEW-HUGE-DISK FAQ entry to move my 
system to bigger disks. 
How lame of me. I forgot to mention my OS version. It is 4.10-RELEASE-p5.
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Re: dump performance

2005-01-15 Thread Derek
Toomas Aas wrote:
# cd /mnt/usr
# dump 0af - /usr | restore xf -

Are these speeds normal for dump, or am I missing something?
I would think not, but let's find out.  When you are running the above 
series of commands, can you instead do this:

# cd /mnt/usr
# mount
# dump 0af - /usr | restore xf - 
# iostat -c10
Give us the output of mount, and first 10 samples from iostat to see 
what kind of throughput you are getting, and how the filesystems are 
mounted.

I don't know how many recommendations I'll be able to suggest after 
that, but it will show us more what's going on.

Cheers,
Derek
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Re: dump performance

2005-01-15 Thread Derek
Derek wrote:
I would think not, but let's find out.  When you are running the above 
series of commands, can you instead do this:

# cd /mnt/usr
# mount
# dump 0af - /usr | restore xf - 
# iostat -c10
Ooooh!  And:
sysctl hw.ata
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[CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Hello,
recently I did update my package tree using the
portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether
my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes
options during an update, as I did built them
manually before.
After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did
notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ...
 WITH_PYTHON=yes
... option. How can I ensure that each of the
WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual
installation of a port, will be recognized during
an update as well?
Should I, for example, specify those knobs in
/etc/make.conf?
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Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD?

2005-01-15 Thread albi
Kevin Kinsey wrote:
Motherboard: Asus A7V8x-x, chipset VIA-KT400, with onboard sound, 
LAN, ATA133, USB
 

Doubt that's much of an issue.  And, in regard
to your assertation about sound, I've never had
much trouble with sound and FreeBSD, regardless
of the card or onboard chipset, except for a few
cards that weren't listed as supported on the
web site.  YMMV.
Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce4 MX440SE with TV-out
i've recently put FreeBSD 5.3 on a machine with such a  motherboard,
with a Nvidia GeForce4 MX4000, made Xorg + nvidia-drivers work by using
xorgcfg and manually editing xorg.conf afterwards, works fine, although
i haven't tried sound at all (that machine became a server, and the 
videocard went into another machine)

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Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a

2005-01-15 Thread Mark Magiera
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:36 +0100
Daniel S. Haischt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 recently I did update my package tree using the
 portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether
 my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes
 options during an update, as I did built them
 manually before.
 
 After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did
 notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ...
 
   WITH_PYTHON=yes
 
 ... option. How can I ensure that each of the
 WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual
 installation of a port, will be recognized during
 an update as well?

Have a look at the MAKE_ARGS section of /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf
For instance:
:  MAKE_ARGS = {
:'graphics/gimp' = 'WITH_PYTHON=1',
:  }

Downside to this is it only works with portupgrade so if you ever have
to upgrade a port without portupgrade (it happens), then you might just
forget to specify the make args manually. Not a good thing to realise
half way through a upgrade of kde :(

 
 Should I, for example, specify those knobs in
 /etc/make.conf?

You could do I guess.
The (possible) downside to this approach is that since a lot of ports
share the same make args. All ports that have optional python support,
not just gimp, would be built with the python bits which may be
undesired. Python's just an example of course, some ports do have unique
make args but a lot of them are generally shared by a bunch of ports.
For instance I usally have WITHOUT_X11=yes in my make.conf on servers to
stop anything X related being built.

 freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards
 Daniel S. Haischt
 
-- Mark Magiera
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Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a

2005-01-15 Thread Erik Norgaard
Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
Hello,
recently I did update my package tree using the
portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether
my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes
options during an update, as I did built them
manually before.
After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did
notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ...
 WITH_PYTHON=yes
... option. How can I ensure that each of the
WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual
installation of a port, will be recognized during
an update as well?
Should I, for example, specify those knobs in
/etc/make.conf?
Unfortunately this is not supported by all ports, but some ports opens 
an interactive menu for enabling/disabling build options and the 
configuration is then stored in /var/db/ports for future builds. This 
should replace setting options on the command line.

AFAIK the idea is that all ports should/will support this in future++. 
Till then, the above problem will remain :-(

It's not documented in the porters handbook, but it doesn't seem too 
difficult to add, but I'm not into the magic. If you have time, create 
an update of the Makefile and submit to the maintainer. You may take a 
look at eg. the mplayer-skins port to see how it works.

Cheers, Erik
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Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
The downside of the whole thing is, that I did
not make notes about all the WITH_FOO_BAR knobs
that I did used while installing a port.
So adding options to /etc/make.conf or
/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf at the time is a
bit late.
There are some ports, like Samba, which will
remember the options that you did specify after
executing 'make config'. I would appreciate
if any port would have such a facility.
Mark Magiera schrieb:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:07:36 +0100
Daniel S. Haischt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,
recently I did update my package tree using the
portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether
my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes
options during an update, as I did built them
manually before.
After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did
notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ...
 WITH_PYTHON=yes
... option. How can I ensure that each of the
WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual
installation of a port, will be recognized during
an update as well?

Have a look at the MAKE_ARGS section of /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf
For instance:
:  MAKE_ARGS = {
:'graphics/gimp' = 'WITH_PYTHON=1',
:  }
Downside to this is it only works with portupgrade so if you ever have
to upgrade a port without portupgrade (it happens), then you might just
forget to specify the make args manually. Not a good thing to realise
half way through a upgrade of kde :(

Should I, for example, specify those knobs in
/etc/make.conf?

You could do I guess.
The (possible) downside to this approach is that since a lot of ports
share the same make args. All ports that have optional python support,
not just gimp, would be built with the python bits which may be
undesired. Python's just an example of course, some ports do have unique
make args but a lot of them are generally shared by a bunch of ports.
For instance I usally have WITHOUT_X11=yes in my make.conf on servers to
stop anything X related being built.

freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards
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Re: [CLARIFICATION] portupgrade -a

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Yea, I know what you mean. Basically there are some
ports supporting the 'make config' commands.
My current situation is that I did install dozens
of ports which are not supporting the 'make config'
command and unfortunatly I do not remember all the
WITH_BLAH_BLUBBER knobs that I specify while
installing a port.
So there is a great chance that a portupgrade will
install a port with missing knobs :(
Erik Norgaard schrieb:
Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
Hello,
recently I did update my package tree using the
portupgrade command. I was allways in doubt whether
my ports will be build with the same WITH_FOO=yes
options during an update, as I did built them
manually before.
After a successfull update of the Gimp, I did
notice that the Gimp wasn't built with the ...
 WITH_PYTHON=yes
... option. How can I ensure that each of the
WITH_XYZ knobs that I did specify during a manual
installation of a port, will be recognized during
an update as well?
Should I, for example, specify those knobs in
/etc/make.conf?
Unfortunately this is not supported by all ports, but some ports opens 
an interactive menu for enabling/disabling build options and the 
configuration is then stored in /var/db/ports for future builds. This 
should replace setting options on the command line.

AFAIK the idea is that all ports should/will support this in future++. 
Till then, the above problem will remain :-(

It's not documented in the porters handbook, but it doesn't seem too 
difficult to add, but I'm not into the magic. If you have time, create 
an update of the Makefile and submit to the maintainer. You may take a 
look at eg. the mplayer-skins port to see how it works.

Cheers, Erik
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Java plugin

2005-01-15 Thread E. J. Cerejo
I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to work
with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did:

Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so but
unfortunately it still doesn't work.

Any ideas as to why?





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Re: bimap instead of public ip and servers

2005-01-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all,
 i have a following problem, probably someone was through this before and
 can offer advice.
 Now i'm using DSL with static ip address and on my home FreeBSD server
 there is group of servers serving my family and friends. Servers are qmail,
 djbdns and apache.
 I'm doing dns for my domain, mail server and http is also under my full
 control.
 Now i found cheaper option, but...
 Instead of public static ip i'll have only bimap. Provider don't want to
 route my public address into his LAN, because he don't want to waste
 additional public ip's. Now i have a problem.
 I'm not sure, if it will be possible to run DNS server, mail server and
 web server in this enviroment. Just now i found, that qmail first checks
 if his ip is resolved MX record for domain it's serving and refuses to
 start, if it's not. And i'm bimapped, so it's not ;-).
 I'll play with this during a weekend, but if someone can help, i'd be
 gratefull.
 Maybe this is not exactly FreeBSD problem, hope you don't mind ;-).

I don't know anything about qmail particularly, but if you're running
your own DNS, you should be able to report anything you want to the
DNS queries of your own mail daemon...
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Re: Logitech access keyboard

2005-01-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Pieter Hustinx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I want to adjust my keymap, I need to know the scancode of that keys.
 How can I get the scancode of that keys.

xev(1), perhaps?
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Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences?

2005-01-15 Thread Sean
sp0ng3b0b wrote:
I am getting a quote for a new server.
I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 
fiber gigabit card.

Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Opterons and FreeBSD 5.3?
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I am running dual Opteron 246s with 1G of memory on a Tyan Thunder K8W 
S2885ANRF. I want to double my memory when I get the chance.
I am running 6.0-Current however.

So far so good. Things have been solid, finally.
Had some growing pains at first but things have settled the past few 
days. It has been a combination of my playing, and dealing with the 
AMD64 platform versus i386, and I am running in 64 bit mode, not 32 bit.

Good points. Real fast, no delays on anything. Compile times for ports 
or even kernel builds is very quick, in fact impressive.

Bad points. Compatibility. Many ports, such as openoffice and java are 
currently not working on this platform, and I am sure there are others.
Currently trying out Koffice for the first time in a very long while and 
it runs great.
Note, Abiword having intermittent problems running on this platform, at 
least for me.
I am using KDE as my desktop.

Tried pulling out my Linux version of Railroad Tycoon 2 from Loki 
software just a short time ago. So far not much luck, but to be fair I 
have not had much time to troubleshoot. Time is always a problem for me.
But all I can think of is an i386 game designed for Linux and trying to 
run it on an amd64 FreeBSD 6.0 system. Sounds like a hurdle.

Have fun,
Sean


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Re: bimap instead of public ip and servers

2005-01-15 Thread Gary
Hi,
--On Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:40 AM -0500 Lowell Gilbert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in part, to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] about his question:

freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Now i'm using DSL with static ip address and on my home FreeBSD server
there is group of servers serving my family and friends. Servers are
qmail, djbdns and apache.
okay.
I'm doing dns for my domain, mail server and http is also under my full
control.
okay
Instead of public static ip i'll have only bimap. Provider don't want to
route my public address into his LAN, because he don't want to waste
additional public ip's. Now i have a problem.

I'm not sure, if it will be possible to run DNS server, mail server and
web server in this enviroment. Just now i found, that qmail first checks
if his ip is resolved MX record for domain it's serving and refuses to
start, if it's not. And i'm bimapped, so it's not ;-).
qmail does not... it checks for any valid MX record for a domain. You have 
to publish your MX records for your domain publicly using tinydns, part of 
the djbdns package, or some other DNS service. You will never receive mail, 
or get hits on Apache if you do not have published you DNS records somehow. 
There are some free services that will allow you to sign on and they will 
update your IP addresses on their DNS if they are dynamic.

I don't know anything about qmail particularly, but if you're running
your own DNS, you should be able to report anything you want to the
DNS queries of your own mail daemon...
exactly...
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freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-15 Thread Jim Durham
I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running 
Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 
servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more.

Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the 
signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented information 
regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an office/LAN 
environment.

I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on 
FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on 
freebsd.org. 

If such a list or newsgroup does not exist, would there be any interest in 
starting one or both?

-- 
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Unable to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a SMP box

2005-01-15 Thread Jorge Mario G.
Hi there
I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual p3 box:
asus cuv4x-d mobo
adaptec AHA-2940 uw and 29160

I'm using the lastest bios

when I try to boot I get a lot of hexadecimal codes
and the I get BTX HALTED

I dont think there is any hardware problem because
GNU/Linux installs without a single problem


Jorge Mario G. Mazo

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Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-15 Thread Chuck Swiger
Jim Durham wrote:
I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running 
Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 
servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more.
OK.
Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers there, but the 
signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for IT-oriented information 
regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented for an office/LAN 
environment.

I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on 
FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on 
freebsd.org. 
Your question parses, but it is not clear what specific thing you have in mind 
that would seperate an IT-oriented list from a non-IT oriented list.  Can you 
either give an example question or two, or can you say why freebsd-questions 
is *not* IT-oriented?

Or does your question mean you looking for a list whose members are mostly 
sysadmins and network managers, rather than end-users?  FreeBSD doesn't really 
make much distinction between an end-user and a sysadmin [1], but you might 
find freebsd-stable or freebsd-isp to come closer to what you are looking for.

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novice users, but that's another topic.
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RE: make make quieter?

2005-01-15 Thread Haulmark, Chris
Someone broke the silence: 

 On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Scott Bennett wrote:
 
  You've tried -s?  And that was still too chatty?
 
 -s looks promising (d'oh, checked make.conf settings but not man
 page... far too late, must sleep)
 
 Actually the redirect works well, esp. now that someone explained the
 redirect (new to 'sudo' too) 

If you are on a dialup connection like I am.  I just use screen 
(ports/misc/screen).

Create a new screen instance then do make install clean then hold down ctrl and 
hit D.

I would be deattached and it'll be compiling in the background.  When I want to 
check the status of
it, I would resume the screen.  Fairly simple.

Chris

 
 Thanks
 TjL
 
 
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RE: make make quieter?

2005-01-15 Thread Haulmark, Chris
Someone broke the silence: 

 Someone broke the silence:
 
 On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Scott Bennett wrote:
 
  You've tried -s?  And that was still too chatty?
 
 -s looks promising (d'oh, checked make.conf settings but not man
 page... far too late, must sleep)
 
 Actually the redirect works well, esp. now that someone explained the
 redirect (new to 'sudo' too)
 
 If you are on a dialup connection like I am.  I just use screen
 (ports/misc/screen). 
 
 Create a new screen instance then do make install clean then hold
 down ctrl and hit D. 

Excuse me, Hold down Ctrl then hit A key then let go of the Ctrl key and hit D 
key.

Now back to the grilling of my BBQ ribs.

Chris
 
 I would be deattached and it'll be compiling in the
 background.  When I want to check the status of
 it, I would resume the screen.  Fairly simple.
 
 Chris
 
 
 Thanks
 TjL
 
 
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Re: Will my friend's computer work with FreeBSD?

2005-01-15 Thread Dave
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:35:53 -0600, you wrote:

Sergei Gnezdov wrote:

Scanner:   mustec1200CP
  


Possibly an issue.  You'd need to decide what software
you intend to use, and check the site for that, I think.

SANE is the software of choice, I gather (could be wrong).
Last I recall looking at their site, there *might* have been
support for Mustek, but I wasn't too hopeful for the scanners
I have in the pile.  I can't remember, but I think one was a
Mustek.  YMMV.

I can confirm the mustec1200CP (aka Bearpaw1200) as working with sane
under FreeBSD.

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how to install a different sub-release from the port

2005-01-15 Thread Marty Landman
Want to install Apache and already have a copy on my LAN of 
apache_1.3.29.tar.gz; when going to /usr/ports/

# cd www/apache13
# make install
 apache_1.3.27.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
How can I get make to look for apache_1.3.29 instead of 1.3.27? Or is it 
possible for me to install manually instead of going through the ports 
collection?

Marty
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how to install samba with outdated port

2005-01-15 Thread Marty Landman
I'm running a fresh install of 4.8 from the mini-iso and would like to 
install samba. Have d/l'd samba-3.0.10
which is the uncompressed samba-latest.tar.gz and copied this into my 
/usr/ports/distfiles.

When I go to /usr/ports/net/samba and make build I get:
# make build
 samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./.
fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: Operation 
timed out
 Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/.
fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: 
Operation timed out

I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build  make 
install using the latest version.

Marty
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Re: Cut and paste in Emacs

2005-01-15 Thread Matthias Buelow
Kris Maglione wrote:
I, personally, still don't completely understand the entire unix/X cut 
buffer system. First, there is more than one cut buffer, but I doubt 
that that's your problem. Second, there is select-to-copy and 
select+right click.../ctrl+c/... to copy. These use two different 
X11 cutpaste is a mess.. the OP might try to use xclipboard as an 
intermediate target.  It often works, when two programs use different 
mechanisms for selections.

mkb.
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Re: how to install samba with outdated port

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Did you update your ports collection? For example did
you update them using CVSup? Take a look at ...
 - http://tinyurl.com/2t4vg
... for more infos.
Marty Landman schrieb:
I'm running a fresh install of 4.8 from the mini-iso and would like to 
install samba. Have d/l'd samba-3.0.10
which is the uncompressed samba-latest.tar.gz and copied this into my 
/usr/ports/distfiles.

When I go to /usr/ports/net/samba and make build I get:
# make build
  samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
  Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./.
fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: Operation 
timed out
  Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/.
fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: 
Operation timed out

I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build  
make install using the latest version.

Marty
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apologies for the duplicate postings

2005-01-15 Thread Marty Landman
Sorry my two postings got sent twice... had a problem with postings 
bouncing and my ctrl-e got the better of me just before. -- Marty

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Re: how to install a different sub-release from the port

2005-01-15 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 02:24:19PM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 Want to install Apache and already have a copy on my LAN of 
 apache_1.3.29.tar.gz; when going to /usr/ports/
 
 # cd www/apache13
 # make install
  apache_1.3.27.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 
 How can I get make to look for apache_1.3.29 instead of 1.3.27? Or is it 
 possible for me to install manually instead of going through the ports 
 collection?

You need to cvsup update your ports collection. The current port is up
to apache-1.3.33_1. Details on how to keep your ports collection up
to date can be found in the Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

with an example file on your local file-system at:

/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile.

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Re: how to install samba with outdated port

2005-01-15 Thread Frank Staals
Marty Landman wrote:
I'm running a fresh install of 4.8 from the mini-iso and would like to 
install samba. Have d/l'd samba-3.0.10
which is the uncompressed samba-latest.tar.gz and copied this into my 
/usr/ports/distfiles.

When I go to /usr/ports/net/samba and make build I get:
# make build
 samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./.
fetch: http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/./samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: Operation 
timed out
 Attempting to fetch from http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/.
fetch: 
http://us3.samba.org/samba/ftp/old-versions/samba-2.2.8.tar.bz2: 
Operation timed out

I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build  
make install using the latest version.

Marty
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You have to use cvsup to get the latest ports, therefor you need 
/net/cvsup then you need to use a cvsup file to download the ports 
here's mine:
/
*default tag=.
*default host=cvsup.nl.freebsd.org
*default prefix=/usr
*default base=/var/db
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress

ports-all release=cv/
than just run: cvsup -l 2 -g path_to_supfile
for more info: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

and when it's done just run a make install clean again.
An other option is using net/portupgrade but I'm not a fan of that ...
Frank Staals
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Re: how to install a different sub-release from the port

2005-01-15 Thread Frank Staals
Marty Landman wrote:
Want to install Apache and already have a copy on my LAN of 
apache_1.3.29.tar.gz; when going to /usr/ports/

# cd www/apache13
# make install
 apache_1.3.27.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
How can I get make to look for apache_1.3.29 instead of 1.3.27? Or is 
it possible for me to install manually instead of going through the 
ports collection?

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You can install a newer release of apache by upgrading your portstree 
and than compiling it again ( use cvsup for the upgrading part: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html )

if you want to compile the exact version without the ports ( the linux 
way ) than you have to download the sourcecode from www.apache.org 
extract it, run a ./configure  make  make install to install ( see 
docs apache for exact install )

btw. why don't you use apache-2 ?
Frank Staals
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Re: Unable to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a SMP box

2005-01-15 Thread Boris Spirialitious
Hi there
I'm trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a dual p3 box:
asus cuv4x-d mobo
adaptec AHA-2940 uw and 29160

I'm using the lastest bios

when I try to boot I get a lot of hexadecimal codes
and the I get BTX HALTED

I dont think there is any hardware problem because
GNU/Linux installs without a single problem

 
Why don't you donate your hardware to FreeBSD team? 
Ted will arrange.

Boris


Jorge Mario G. Mazo


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Re: Kris' World

2005-01-15 Thread Freebsd0101
On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 Welcome back to my killfile (although I doubt you'll stay there long
 because of your desperate need to hear your own voice).

 Kris

Now, I understand his/her/it's words are harsh, but is killing them 
really a fair alternative?  Well, I guess I can see your point.  
:grabs pitchfork::


Kris is a loser. He ridicules and blocks people because he doesn't 
have the technical knowledge to address the questions. Im sure
he doesn't understand anyway, so who cares if he reads my
messages or not?
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Kris Maglione
Sergei Gnezdov wrote:
Alternatives for:
- MS Office XP.  I don't think he has very complex documents.
 

OpenOffice.org (works with windows too), KOffice
- ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop.  I am not convinced that he edits or creates
images.
 

GIMP 2.0
- WinRAR and WinZIP
 

KDE's Ark/command line utils
- WinAMP
 

XMMS is popular, but there are lots of other great ones. Most of them 
are good. I like Xinf, but I don't use it anymore.

- Virtual CD
 

mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file.iso -u 1
mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /cdrom1
- Some kind of CD Burner
 

xcdroast, gnome has support too
- Some DVD Player
 

Xine, Ogle, Mplayer. All good, Mplayer sucks for DVDs, though
- AC3filter
 

some command line tool and a few gui apps
- Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this)
 

There is a good GUI app for this, but I forget what it's called. Check 
ports.

As a note, though. This friend may be better off with a linux distro. 
FreeBSD is not newbie friendly and lacks certain hardware/software 
support that linux has. Not having ALSA precludes certain apps from 
working/working well.


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Re: Java plugin

2005-01-15 Thread Kris Maglione
E. J. Cerejo wrote:
I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to work
with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did:
Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so but
unfortunately it still doesn't work.
Any ideas as to why?
 

Run mozilla from an xterm and see what output you get. It should tell 
you why it won't work.
Is it listed in about:plugins?


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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Dave
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:09:30 +0100, you wrote:

 - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this)

I cannot comment on this but mplayer is supposed to do that.


His friend should try out FreesBie (live, bootable FreeBSD CD, no HDD
install required).  It has all of the required equivilents as well as
avidemux2 which can do the DVD to AVI from a pointy/clicky window.

Dave

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RE: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Durham
 Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:48 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
 
 
 I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running 
 Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on 
 FreeBSD..about 8 
 servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more.
 
 Freebsd-questions is wonderful and I find a lot of answers 
 there, but the 
 signal-to-noise is low when you are just looking for 
 IT-oriented information 
 regarding FreeBSD. Especially regarding systems implemented 
 for an office/LAN 
 environment.
 
 I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup 
 devoted to IT on 
 FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on 
 freebsd.org. 
 

Have you seen my book and website?

http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com

It is out of print now but still available on Amazon.

Ted
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Re: Kris' World

2005-01-15 Thread Stijn Hoop
You know, I've never even seen anyone come close to this absurd
display of self-proclaimed godliness. If you have so much clue, please
go *FIX* something instead of ranting about it.

I also don't know how you manage to change your email adresses, but
I'd really like you to get out of my sight. Just like the last four
times you've gotten in my killfile, where people that are clearly only
posting unconstructively end up.

If you don't care whether people do or do not read your messages,
please refrain from changing email adresses again. You may be able to
*save* some people some grief, instead of causing it. This might
appeal to you. I honestly don't know if it does though.

--Stijn

On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 02:54:53PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  Welcome back to my killfile (although I doubt you'll stay there long
  because of your desperate need to hear your own voice).
 
  Kris
 
 Now, I understand his/her/it's words are harsh, but is killing them 
 really a fair alternative?  Well, I guess I can see your point.  
 :grabs pitchfork::
 
 
 Kris is a loser. He ridicules and blocks people because he doesn't 
 have the technical knowledge to address the questions. Im sure
 he doesn't understand anyway, so who cares if he reads my
 messages or not?
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Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?

2005-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Durham wrote:
I am the sys admin for a company of about 500 people and I am running 
Sendmail/Procmail/Spamassassin, Samba, Apache/PHP/MySql on FreeBSD..about 8 
servers in 3 offices across the US and soon to be more.
...
I was wondering if there is any mailing list or newsgroup devoted to IT on 
FreeBSD? Google is not returning any hits on this, nor the listing on 
freebsd.org. 
I'm not really understanding the distinction that you're looking for. 
For FreeBSD-specific technical discussions, this is the place. 
Applications of course have their own lists, which are obviously more 
appropriate for application-specific questions.

For broader discussions, perhaps regarding best practices in system 
administration, commercial backup recommendations, etc, I find SAGE (the 
System Administrators Guild) to be an extremely valuable resource. The 
community seems roughly split between the educational and corporate 
sectors, with a very high level of signal. The topics covered on the 
SAGE mailing list are of high relevance to the profession and practices 
of system administrators, especially for someone with a network such as 
yours.

http://www.sage.org
Cheers,
Sebastian
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Re: Java plugin

2005-01-15 Thread E. J. Cerejo
 --- Kris Maglione [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: 
 E. J. Cerejo wrote:
 
 I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to
 work
 with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did:
 
 Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed

/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so
 but
 unfortunately it still doesn't work.
 
 Any ideas as to why?
   
 
 Run mozilla from an xterm and see what output you
 get. It should tell 
 you why it won't work.
 Is it listed in about:plugins?
 

No it's not listed there, here's what I get when I run
from terminal:

LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so:
Undefined symbol _ZTV16nsQueryInterface]
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so:
Undefined symbol _ZTV16nsQueryInterface]


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problem compiling OpenOffice-2.0

2005-01-15 Thread Frank Staals
I tried compiling openoffice 2.0, everything is going fine until this 
point:

=
Building project cli_ure
=
deliver -- version: 1.77
Statistics:
Files copied: 0
Files unchanged/not matching: 7
=
Building project bridges
=
/home/oo.o/work/bridges/unotypes
-
/home/oo.o/work/bridges/source/cpp_uno/gcc3_freebsd_intel
dmake:  Error -- `../../../unxfbsd.pro/slb/cpp_uno_shared.lib' not 
found, and can't be made
'---* tg_merge.mk *---'

ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making 
/home/oo.o/work/bridges/source/cpp_uno/gcc3_freebsd_intel
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'instsetoo_native/prj/build_all'
*** Error code 255

Stop in /home/oo.o.
PC1# '---* tg_merge.mk *---'
I copied /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-2.0-devel/ to /home because of a 
lack of free hard disk space on / by the way.

anyone an Idea what I should do to fix this ?
Frank Staals
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Growing out a second head

2005-01-15 Thread Subhro
Hello folks,

I am running FBSD 5.3-R amd64 on a AMD 3000+ with a nVidia GeForce Fx 5700LE
(256M) card plugged into the AGP slot. Two monitors are fixed to the card.
One goes in the normal VGA slot, the other goes into the DVI slot via a
VGA-DVI converter. I have been trying to get Xorg running on this setup.
However I have not been successful so far. The nvidia driver supports dual
headed setups. But it is only limited to the i386 platform. Anyone would
please help me out by suggesting how to setup Twinview with the nv
driver? Any pointers would be welcome.

Thanks and best Regards,
S.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
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Re: Growing out a second head

2005-01-15 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi,

On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:06:30AM +0530, Subhro wrote:
 I am running FBSD 5.3-R amd64 on a AMD 3000+ with a nVidia GeForce Fx 5700LE
 (256M) card plugged into the AGP slot. Two monitors are fixed to the card.
 One goes in the normal VGA slot, the other goes into the DVI slot via a
 VGA-DVI converter. I have been trying to get Xorg running on this setup.
 However I have not been successful so far. The nvidia driver supports dual
 headed setups. But it is only limited to the i386 platform. Anyone would
 please help me out by suggesting how to setup Twinview with the nv
 driver? Any pointers would be welcome.

My experience with setting up a dual-head nVidia FX 5200 last week was that
I really needed the binary driver -- the open source 'nv' one just gave
me messed up blinking colors on the second head.

I don't know if that's really all that is available, just relating my
experience here.

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FreeBSD 4.9 Still available?

2005-01-15 Thread Jordan Michaels
Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular 
distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror sites 
is 4.10 and up. Help?

Thanks!
-Jordan
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RE: Growing out a second head

2005-01-15 Thread Subhro



 -Original Message-
 From: Stijn Hoop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:10
 To: Subhro
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Growing out a second head
 
 Hi,
 
 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:06:30AM +0530, Subhro wrote:
  I am running FBSD 5.3-R amd64 on a AMD 3000+ with a nVidia GeForce Fx
 5700LE
  (256M) card plugged into the AGP slot. Two monitors are fixed to the
 card.
  One goes in the normal VGA slot, the other goes into the DVI slot via a
  VGA-DVI converter. I have been trying to get Xorg running on this setup.
  However I have not been successful so far. The nvidia driver supports
 dual
  headed setups. But it is only limited to the i386 platform. Anyone would
  please help me out by suggesting how to setup Twinview with the nv
  driver? Any pointers would be welcome.
 
 My experience with setting up a dual-head nVidia FX 5200 last week was
 that
 I really needed the binary driver -- the open source 'nv' one just gave
 me messed up blinking colors on the second head.
 
That's precisely the problem a messed up blinking second head :-S. If
only nvdia driver team is fast enough to get on with the amd64 edition of
nvidia for FreeBSD. They already have the linux editions for both amd64 and
IA64 on their page. *sigh*

Regards
S.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
India


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Re: Growing out a second head

2005-01-15 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 02:18:21AM +0530, Subhro wrote:
 Is your box amd64?

Whoops, sorry -- no it's i386 and I planned to put that information in
my previous mail also...

--Stijn

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Cross Compiling

2005-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have compiled a FreeBSD custom kernel for a pc98
arch laptop on my i686 box. I was wondering how I
could actually transfer the kernel to floppy so I can
load it into my laptop. I tried to copy the kernel
folder but it's full of symlinks and doesn't produce
an actual kernel for me. is there anyone here who has
experience with cross compiling kernels that can help
me? I already did make and make depend...of course I
can't install it on my i386 box because the
architecture is totally different.

How do I migrate the kernel ??
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makefile args overrule

2005-01-15 Thread dick hoogendijk
Is it possible to *overrule* the arguments from a Makefile in the ports?
I know you can add some options in the pkgtools.conf (portupgrade), but
I want to disable a lot of options in the Makefile of apache13 because I
want to disable a lot of modules. Can I add the options I want to the
pkgtools.conf to *overrule* the Makefile?

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mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Mark
I just recompiled mod_php4 (4.3.10) for Apache 1.3.x on
FreeBSD 4.10R. But all options are gone from the Makefile!
It used to be I got this nice menu, giving me every option
to compile extra stuff in; but that is completely gone now!
How do I get it back??

Thanks,

- Mark

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Re: FreeBSD 4.9 Still available?

2005-01-15 Thread Jordan Michaels
Okay, nevermind. LinuxISO.org still has 4.9 listed.
Jordan Michaels wrote:
Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular 
distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror 
sites is 4.10 and up. Help?

Thanks!
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:50:03 -0800
Sergei Gnezdov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I need to consider if my friend can migrate from windows.  Do you
 know of a good user friendly alternatives (may be not as powerful)? 
 I might be able to answer most of the items, but I'd like to make
 sure that I know about the options:
 
 Alternatives for:
 
 - MS Office XP.  I don't think he has very complex documents.

Texmacs, OpenOffice, KOffice, or AbiWord should all work nicely.

 - ACDSE 5.0, Photoshop.  I am not convinced that he edits or creates
 images.

GIMP.

 - WinRAR and WinZIP

Several choices under ports/archivers.

 - WinAMP

XMMS or one of the many one in the ports.

 - Virtual CD

 - Some kind of CD Burner

I suggest a combo of burncd, mkisofs, and mc. It is not really
intuitive or whatever at first, but it works rather nice after reading
the related mans. If you want something with a more traditional GUI,
there are a few in the ports.

 - Some DVD Player
 - AC3filter

Both MPlayer and Xine should handle AC3 with out problems.

 - Decoding DVD to AVI (I have no idea why anybody would need this)

MPlayer is great for this and there are a few DVD ripping programs in
the portstree. Now if there only a nice front end to the win32 port.
^_^


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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:41 +
Xian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote:
snip
  - WinAMP
 Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP

I am confused by this comment, I thought it looked like winamp and
worked a lot like it under any system it ran on?

snip
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:32:00 +
Frank Staals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Karol Kwiatkowski wrote:
 
 
   
 
 - Virtual CD
 
 
 
 don't know this software
 
   
 
 Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just
 like alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with
 FreeBSD : man mount_cd9660

Last I checked, it required a bit more... you have to use mdconfig to
create a device entry in /dev for the file so you can point mount at
it.
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Re: Java plugin

2005-01-15 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:21, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
  --- Kris Maglione [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  E. J. Cerejo wrote:
  I'm having trouble in getting the java plugin to
 
  work
 
  with mozilla on FreeBSD 5.3, here what I did:
  
  Install jdk13 using the port and then I linksysed
 
 /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 
  to /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin.so
 
  but
 
  unfortunately it still doesn't work.
  
  Any ideas as to why?
 
  Run mozilla from an xterm and see what output you
  get. It should tell
  you why it won't work.
  Is it listed in about:plugins?

 No it's not listed there, here's what I get when I run
 from terminal:

 LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
 /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 [/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so:
 Undefined symbol _ZTV16nsQueryInterface]
 LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
 /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 [/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so:
 Undefined symbol _ZTV16nsQueryInterface]

This is a known issue. Install jdk-1.4.2 instead of jdk-1.3.1.
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.7/known-issues.html#java

Cheers,
ch

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Re: make make quieter?

2005-01-15 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:55 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote:
-s looks promising (d'oh, checked make.conf settings but not man 
page... far too late, must sleep)
it's still too chatty.  Configure makes a lot of noise.
Actually the redirect works well, esp. now that someone explained the 
redirect (new to 'sudo' too)
spoke too soon.  it didn't work.  I think it has something to do with 
zsh.

Anyway, I decided that what I really wanted was a lot of the installs 
anyway, in some organized fashion, so I made a shell script, which 
works fine under 'sudo'

Here it is in case anyone is curious
TjL

#!/bin/sh
#
#   the purpose of this script is to suppress the output of
#   'make install clean' and to log it to a file
#
NAME=`basename $0`
LOG_DIR=/var/db/installs
if [ ! -d $LOG_DIR ]
then
mkdir -p $LOG_DIR ||\
(echo $NAME: FATAL cannot find or create $LOG_DIR  
exit 1)
fi

PWD_SAFE=`echo $PWD | sed 's#/#.#g; s#^.##g'`
INSTALL_LOG=$LOG_DIR/$PWD_SAFE
# we touch the log.  if it already exists, we don't care, we'll just 
append to it
touch $INSTALL_LOG

echo 
---
$NAME: BEGINNING log of make install clean from $PWD which started at 
`date`

  $INSTALL_LOG
(make install clean  21)  $INSTALL_LOG
EXITCODE=$?
echo 
$NAME: END log of make install clean from $PWD which finished at `date`
  $INSTALL_LOG
if [ $EXITCODE = 0 ]
then
echo $0: make install clean done from $PWD, logged to 
$INSTALL_LOG
else

echo -n 
NOTE:   'make install clean' finished in $PWD
Logged to $INSTALL_LOG
DID NOT EXIT CLEANLY: $EXITCODE

fi
exit 0
# EOF
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Re: FreeBSD 4.9 Still available?

2005-01-15 Thread W. D.
At 14:45 1/15/2005, Jordan Michaels wrote:
Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular 
distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror sites 
is 4.10 and up. Help?

ftp://ftp4.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.9-RELEASE

OR:

http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org/FBSDsites.php



More info:
http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/

Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/
$8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/

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Re: FreeBSD 4.9 Still available?

2005-01-15 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Jan 15, 2005, at 3:45 PM, Jordan Michaels wrote:
Anyone know where I can grab an iso of 4.9? I need that particular 
distro for a project that I'm working on. All I see on the mirror 
sites is 4.10 and up. Help?
Google + freebsd 4.9 iso  gave me
http://mirror.lnnu.edu.cn/01.ISO/08.bsd/0.FreeBSD/4.9/
about 3 hits from the top
TjL
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KDM, KDE 3.3 and xmodmap

2005-01-15 Thread Maarten
Does anyone know how to configure KDM or KDE so that is uses xmodmap?

The configuration is pretty much out of the box, 5.3.

For some reason using custom from the KDM menu with .xsession:

#!/bin/sh
xmodmap -e 'keycode 203=F13'
exec startkde

Does start kde but ignores the xmodmap entry.

If i do 'sh .xsession' after login xmodmap is processed and I get a
message KDE is already running :-)

Thanks,

Maarten

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Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386

2005-01-15 Thread Doug Poland
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 03:40:40PM -0500, dave wrote:
 Hi,
 Wondering if you ever got a fix for this issue? I'm doing an identical
 action.
 
Yes, I did fix it.  My detailed explaination was sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Check it out:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/5a74c8f3573d7b9f/27e9c8b078e4755a?q=gmirror+i386_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmailing.freebsd.questions%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dmailing.freebsd.questions%26q%3Dgmirror+i386%26qt_g%3D1%26searchnow%3DSearch+this+group%26_doneTitle=Back+to+Searchd#27e9c8b078e4755a


Good luck,

Doug
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RE: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 22:12
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: mod_ph4
 
 I just recompiled mod_php4 (4.3.10) for Apache 1.3.x on
 FreeBSD 4.10R. But all options are gone from the Makefile!
 It used to be I got this nice menu, giving me every option
 to compile extra stuff in; but that is completely gone now!
 How do I get it back??

Ok, I found /ports/lang/php4-extensions. Great! Except,
it will not compile anything! How do I get this meta thingy
to compile at all? Sigh. The old php4 install was working just fine;
now it is all messed up. :(

- Mark

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Re: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
did you type 'make config' just within the
/ports/lang/php4-extensions directory?
You should get a menu where you can
select/deselect various compile options ...
Mark schrieb:
-Original Message-
From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 22:12
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: mod_ph4

I just recompiled mod_php4 (4.3.10) for Apache 1.3.x on
FreeBSD 4.10R. But all options are gone from the Makefile!
It used to be I got this nice menu, giving me every option
to compile extra stuff in; but that is completely gone now!
How do I get it back??

Ok, I found /ports/lang/php4-extensions. Great! Except,
it will not compile anything! How do I get this meta thingy
to compile at all? Sigh. The old php4 install was working just fine;
now it is all messed up. :(
- Mark
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Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend

2005-01-15 Thread Kris Maglione

Virtual CD is a program to mount iso images if I'm correct ( just like 
alcohol or deamontools ) you can just mount .iso files with FreeBSD : 
man mount_cd9660
You can't directly mount iso files, you need to vn/mdconfig them first.
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RE: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:27
 To: Mark
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: mod_ph4
 
 did you type 'make config' just within the
 /ports/lang/php4-extensions directory?
 
 You should get a menu where you can
 select/deselect various compile options ...

Yes, I did that. After I selected the options,
the make just exits, but does not start a compile. :(

- Mark

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Re: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
This is the complete sequence:
make config  make install (dist)clean
Did you type make install etc. after make config?
I did install php5 the same way and it should work.
Mark schrieb:
-Original Message-
From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:27
To: Mark
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: mod_ph4

did you type 'make config' just within the
/ports/lang/php4-extensions directory?
You should get a menu where you can
select/deselect various compile options ...

Yes, I did that. After I selected the options,
the make just exits, but does not start a compile. :(
- Mark
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RE: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:48
 To: Mark
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: mod_ph4
 
 This is the complete sequence:
 
 make config  make install (dist)clean
 
 Did you type make install etc. after make config?

Yes, I did all those things; but I get errors all over the place:

-
% make install
===  Installing for php4-extensions-1.0
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in
/usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2
===  Vulnerability check disabled
===  Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
 Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2.
===  Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - not
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/automake in
/usr/ports/devel/automake
  No directory for /usr/local/bin/automake.  Skipping..
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - not
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf in
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf
  No directory for /usr/local/bin/autoconf.  Skipping..
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file:
/usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found
===  PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
aclocal15: not found
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2.
*** Error code 1
-

Thanks,

- Mark

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Re: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
First of all check whether automake/autoconf
are in your PATH. e.g.
 #  which automake
 #  which automake
If you are getting no results check whether
autoconf/automake are installed:
 #  pkg_info | grep autoconf
 #  pkg_info | grep automake
Also check your PATH variable ...
 #  env | grep PATH
/usr/local/bin should contained in your PATH
variable.
Mark schrieb:
-Original Message-
From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:48
To: Mark
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: mod_ph4

This is the complete sequence:
make config  make install (dist)clean
Did you type make install etc. after make config?

Yes, I did all those things; but I get errors all over the place:
-
% make install
===  Installing for php4-extensions-1.0
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in
/usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2
===  Vulnerability check disabled
===  Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2.
===  Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - not
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/automake in
/usr/ports/devel/automake
  No directory for /usr/local/bin/automake.  Skipping..
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - not
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf in
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf
  No directory for /usr/local/bin/autoconf.  Skipping..
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file:
/usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found
===  PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
aclocal15: not found
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2.
*** Error code 1
-
Thanks,
- Mark
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Re: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
btw, try to install the autoconf/automake
ports first before php4.
Is this your first port that you are installing
on your system? I am wondering because the auto
tools are missing ...
Daniel S. Haischt schrieb:
First of all check whether automake/autoconf
are in your PATH. e.g.
 #  which automake
 #  which automake
If you are getting no results check whether
autoconf/automake are installed:
 #  pkg_info | grep autoconf
 #  pkg_info | grep automake
Also check your PATH variable ...
 #  env | grep PATH
/usr/local/bin should contained in your PATH
variable.
Mark schrieb:
-Original Message-
From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
zaterdag 15 januari 2005 23:48
To: Mark
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: mod_ph4

This is the complete sequence:
make config  make install (dist)clean
Did you type make install etc. after make config?

Yes, I did all those things; but I get errors all over the place:
-
% make install
===  Installing for php4-extensions-1.0
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in
/usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2
===  Vulnerability check disabled
===  Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2.

===  Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - not
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/automake in
/usr/ports/devel/automake
  No directory for /usr/local/bin/automake.  Skipping..
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - not
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf in
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf
  No directory for /usr/local/bin/autoconf.  Skipping..
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file:
/usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found
===  PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
aclocal15: not found
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2.
*** Error code 1
-
Thanks,
- Mark



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RE: mod_ph4

2005-01-15 Thread Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: zondag 16 januari 2005 0:10
 To: Mark
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: mod_ph4
 
 btw, try to install the autoconf/automake
 ports first before php4.
 
 Is this your first port that you are installing
 on your system? I am wondering because the auto
 tools are missing ...

Nope, installed zillion of packages. :) automake + autoconf indeed
seem to be missing. Or rather, they are in different locations
(like /usr/local/libexec/autoconf259/autoconf). Ok, so I made a few
symlinks, and now I get this:

% make install
===  Vulnerability check disabled
===  Found saved configuration for php4-extensions-1.0
===  Extracting for php4-extensions-1.0
===  Patching for php4-extensions-1.0
===  Configuring for php4-extensions-1.0
===  Installing for php4-extensions-1.0
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found
===   php4-extensions-1.0 depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so - not found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/bz2.so in
/usr/ports/archivers/php4-bz2
===  Vulnerability check disabled
===  Extracting for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
 Checksum OK for php-4.3.10.tar.bz2.
===  Patching for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on executable: phpize - found
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake - found
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf - found
===   php4-bz2-4.3.10_1 depends on file:
/usr/local/libexec/libtool13/libtool - found
===  PHPizing for php4-bz2-4.3.10_1
aclocal15: not found
*** Error code 1

Stop in /backup/ports/archivers/php4-bz2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /backup/ports/lang/php4-extensions.

Thanks,

- Mark

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Re: NFS file locking

2005-01-15 Thread Erik Norgaard
Bryce Kahle wrote:
I've been researching NFS and its file locking capabilities on FreeBSD
and I can't seem to find the answer to my question, so I thought I would
ask it here.
In this document
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-post.h
tml#NETWORK-CONFIGURATION-CONT
It mentions this:
The next option listed here is the rpc.lockd option, which, when
selected, will provide file locking services. This is usually used with
rpc.statd to monitor what hosts are requesting locks and how frequently
they request them. While these last two options are marvelous for
debugging, they are not required for NFS servers and clients to operate
correctly.
Is rpc.lockd required for fcntl() style locking to work correctly?
NFS in it self does not provide any filelocking mechanisms. Your only 
option is to rely on lockd. lockd needs statd to start correctly.

I think that lockd makes filelocking work among other nfs clients but I 
don't know if the server will respect this kind of filelocking or if it 
is interpreted as fcntl style locking.

I hope this answers half your question :-)
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Re: Network monitoring software

2005-01-15 Thread Nagilum
Try:
systat -if
for a start, regards,
Alex.
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Hiya folks, I'm looking for some network monitoring software. I've tried zabbix 
and jffnms but neither of them functioned after being configured or installing.
If anybody has any success stories I would like to hear about any of them so I 
can look at other packages in ports net and net-mgmt.
Thanks.
~Kris
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Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$...

2005-01-15 Thread Eric F Crist
On Jan 15, 2005, at 7:06 PM, albi wrote:
Eric F Crist wrote:
hi,
afair squirrelmail depends on Maildir-format mailboxes
if you really want to use the UW-imap (i don't, i'm happily using
courier-imap and squirrelmail since years), then try a webmail 
solution
that works with mbox-format, i think neomail and openwebmail are some
alternatives
Actually, I believe squirrelmail just depends on an imap server.
first i thought you were right, and i though i'm some years behind (i 
read that squirrelmail depended on imap some years ago), maybe 
squirrelmail has changed,

i looked up the requirements on the squirrelmail-page and saw that you 
were right, uw-imap is in the list of required imap-servers, however, 
i just read that uw-imap can do imap, and ...
i know that converting mbox to maildir can be a lot of work, but if i 
were you i would test with a mbox-based webmail-solution, or... simply 
try the imap directly with a mailclient which supports imap and/or 
imap-ssl

I don't think it cares what (imap-uw is supported).  My issue resides 
with the plain-text password issue.  As per instructions, I've 
recompiled imap-uw to allow plain-text, or so I thought, and I still 
get the errors.  I followed these instructions: 
http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/UWLoginDisabled and I'm 
concerned with these messages in /var/log/auth.log:
Jan 14 20:15:20 grog imapd[19134]: Login disabled user=user auth=user 
host=localhost [127.0.0.1]
i have no idea, but i know one thing for sure, the error-message is 
-not - always showing the exact error

error-messages are limited to what the programmer(s) made it to act 
like

for example, i'm setting up a ftp-server, and in a bootup-script i had
chmod 700 /home/ and i set /home/ftp to be the ftp-server base-dir
from the log-files i could not find out that the permissions where 
wrong, it simply showed login-errors, and gave time-outs

do you get my point ? i'm trying to say that perhaps squirrelmail 
still demands a maildir-based imap-server (i don't know whether that's 
true, google could not give me an answer to that within a reasonable 
time)

anyway, i hope you get it working soonish!
good luck!
ciao,
albi
Actually, I know the error is correct.  Actually, I know what I need to 
do to fix this problem, it's just not working for me...  I've posted a 
couple links that direct me in various ways regarding this error, but 
my server won't accept plain-text logins.  Can't figure out how to get 
it to do so.

thanks for your help
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Re: Network monitoring software

2005-01-15 Thread Eric F Crist
On Jan 15, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Nagilum wrote:
Try:
systat -if
for a start, regards,
Alex.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hiya folks, I'm looking for some network monitoring software. I've 
tried zabbix and jffnms but neither of them functioned after being 
configured or installing.

If anybody has any success stories I would like to hear about any of 
them so I can look at other packages in ports net and net-mgmt.

Thanks.
~Kris
Kris,
You aren't being very specific as to what type of monitoring you want 
to do.  There are utilities out there such as portsentry which monitor 
for specific types of activity, and utilities like ethereal that sniff 
network packets.

Perhaps more information from you would be beneficial.
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I need a cuppa...

2005-01-15 Thread John
OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed
and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ,
and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the
latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get
how to get Java support for FreeBSD.  I don't need the JDK, unless
that's the only way to get a viable JRE.

Can someone point me in the right direction???
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SOLVED (was RE: mod_ph4)

2005-01-15 Thread Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: zondag 16 januari 2005 0:10
 To: Mark
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: mod_ph4
 
 btw, try to install the autoconf/automake
 ports first before php4.

All is well again. :) For some bizarre reason my bsd.port.mk
had become corrupted. No wonder nothing worked. Now
everything compiled smoothly again. :)

Thanks for the help,

- Mark

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Re: Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-15 Thread John
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:34:26PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Friday 14 January 2005 02:12 pm, John wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:32:03PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
   On Friday 14 January 2005 12:23 pm, John wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst 
 wrote:
 Hello,

 Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3
  rather than 5.2.1.

 Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3,
 which basically worked okay.
 Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the
 other hand...
   
Yes, I would say that the source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3-STABLE
was fine, it was the xorg/XFree86 and kde issues that made me
insane. It's possible that I should have just done a pkg_delete
-a and started over with the packages from that point, but I also
need to learn to use pkg_upgrade.  I would not hesitate to do the
source upgrade again for a system which is NOT running X.
   
I have now reinstalled 5.3, just to get around the Xorg-XFree86
issue, and I have kde installed, and I have room to spare.  So,
I'm much farther than I was when I ran out of room, and I still
have room.  This is a good thing!
  
   Yes it is!  (...and speaking as someone who is typing with 2
   fractured wrists, all good news is welcome!)
 
  Oh, no!  I'd ask what happened, but I'll wait until you're healed
  up...
 
 Indoor soccer injury -- the floor is concrete.
 
 
   I hope you have lots of fun and joy with your system before the
   next challenge (which we will gladly participate in) !
 
  OK, well, it seems I spoke just a little bit too soon.  Or, maybe I'm
  OK, but just worried.
 
  I downloaded and burned an ISO 5.3 CD.  I did a minimal install,
  NFS mounted all the 5-stable packages I kept from the last time
  around (I'm not a COMPLETE idiot!) and simply did a pkg_add
  kde-lite*.  That got me a long, long ways.  I also needed to do
  a pkg_add xorg-server* but I think nearly everything else got
  loaded up.  I was in great shape in terms of disk footprint and
  everything else I can tell from here.
 
  Now, at this point, I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, but I've
  installed packages from FreeBSD 5-STABLE, but if my understanding
  is correct, that should be OK.
 
  This is the point at which things got interesting.  I did the
  pkg_add for OOo - and found that I was missing four dependent
  packages.  As luck would have it, all four of them have been
  updated since I started this process, so I downloaded and installed
  the newer revv'ed ones, but I got an error message that
  something (I wished I'd trapped the output) wanted libm.so.2.
  When I look around, I find that I have libm.so.3.  The four
  packages were atk, pango, shared-mime-info, and gtk-2.  I
  think one of the post-install scripts complained that it couldn't
  run something,
 
  Am I preparing trouble, or am I OK?  Despite the warning, everything
  seems to be installing.  Obviously, I wasn't able to install the
  newer packages as dependencies, but after installing them by hand,
  the things on which they depended seem to be installing OK, though
  with warnings.
 
  Anyway, I have everything installed, (except maybe a JDK - any
  suggestions?) and I'm at 80% in my combined root /usr partition,
  which feels a little tighter than I would like, but I do still have
  270Mb free, so that's not too bad - that's larger than my first
  FreeBSD hard drive! :)
 
  OO just finished.  Other than 16 packages that are newer than
  expected, it seems to have installed.  I'm not actually with the
  machine, so I can't start X and kde and try it.
 
  Am I OK, or should I start over and redo something?
 
 If the package finished installing, everything may be okay (no 
 guarantees).  Create a list of frequent tasks in OpenOffice; and run 
 OpenOffice through its paces.

YIPPEE!!!  Two more hurdles cleared, and I'm up and running!

I learned two lessons:
1) Don't depend on dependencies
2) startx is still your friend

With the first one, I was having X mess up my screen completely,
and not having it be restored when I tried to return to my virtual
terminal on doing an X -configure xorg.config.new.  Checking the
log files revealed that the there mkfontdir wasn't loaded.  I
had done a pkg_add kde-lite* and expected it to take care of
all the dependencies.  That was not the case.  Parts of x.org
were loaded, but not all of it.  That was quickly corrected by
doing a pkg_add xord-6.8* of the meta package to get the rest
of the pieces.

The next one was really strange.  kde would start, but in the
middle of initializing, it would simply go away.  Using startx
to get things rolling, I captured the error message.  Somehow,
/tmp/.ICE was owned by my personal uid rather than root, which
kde found unacceptable.  Not sure how that happened.  I certainly
didn't create it by hand.  I may have installed the package 

Hardware assembly

2005-01-15 Thread Street Chaman
hi everyone,
i need low level hardware control over some devices (kbd, sound, display) in 
an assembly soft, and 'd like to know where i can find a list of 
ioctl_syscall supported parameters for each device.
Furthermore, if someone knows some good (more complete than 
developpers-handbook) gas doc/sources, it would be a great help for me.

Thanks a lot.
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Re: Hardware assembly

2005-01-15 Thread John
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 03:28:18AM +, Street Chaman wrote:
 hi everyone,
 
 i need low level hardware control over some devices (kbd, sound, display) in 
 an assembly soft, and 'd like to know where i can find a list of 
 ioctl_syscall supported parameters for each device.
 Furthermore, if someone knows some good (more complete than 
 developpers-handbook) gas doc/sources, it would be a great help for me.

Well, Street, some may call this cheating, but it is probably worth
your while to try it this way.

Create empty routines in C to get your calling sequences down, then
use the compiler to create the linkages for you (see the -S option).
Then you can concentrate on your functionality, rather than trying
to do the stack work that you need.  If you are actually making
ioctl or syscalls, then write the C for the ioctl into your framework
and, again, let the compiler generate the linkages.  If you actually
want to make the syscalls directly, you should dig out the assembler
source from the system sources of the libraries and use them as a
template - just beware, the syscalls can CHANGE, which is one reason
we always rebuild the world with the kernel.  Part of the reason
for using the standard libraries is to put a layer of abstraction
between you and the basic OS calling sequence.

Just my $0.02.
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Re: how to install samba with outdated port

2005-01-15 Thread Kris Maglione
Marty Landman wrote:
I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build  
make install using the latest version.
You have three decent options:
1: CVSup your entire ports tree
2: CVS checkout just that port
3: Download that port as a tarball
For three, you can find if at http://www.freebsd.org/ports
Search for Samba and click the download link. Then, unzip in place of 
the previous samba directory.

You can also try to cheat by editing the distinfo file and renaming the 
file to the version that you have, and editing the Makefile to that 
version too, but that's a bad idea, since any patches to the port are 
for the previous version. Sometimes, though, things like this are 
necessary for certain abandoned ports.


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Re: makefile args overrule

2005-01-15 Thread Kris Maglione
dick hoogendijk wrote:
Is it possible to *overrule* the arguments from a Makefile in the ports?
I know you can add some options in the pkgtools.conf (portupgrade), but
I want to disable a lot of options in the Makefile of apache13 because I
want to disable a lot of modules. Can I add the options I want to the
pkgtools.conf to *overrule* the Makefile?
 

When you get a menu prompt to select options, all that it does is set 
make variables. You can see them in the /var/db/port/options file, or 
you can see what they are in the Makefile. Either way, you can specify 
them on the command line as var=value (usually YES/NO) or in 
pkgtools.conf the same way. You're probably better off editing the 
options file or removing it and running make config on the port.


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Printer fails to work after upgrade to 5.3

2005-01-15 Thread Ned Harrison
I have a Cannon S520 printer that I had working under 5.2.1 using cups with 
KDE as a graphical interface. After upgrading I have not been able to get it 
to print.  

I get no error messages when I send a document to print. Even test prints 
bring back a message stating the test print was successfull, however the 
printer does not respond.

I double checked my packages in case I deleted any.  Ghostscrip-gnu-nox11 is 
still installed as well as cups.  I still have a symbolic link from 
cups.sh.sample to cups.sh in the ~/etc/rc.d directory.  

 The /etc/make.conf file still has CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes and NO_LPR=yes in 
it.  The corresponding lp commands in /usr/bin are symbolicly linked to their 
counterparts in /usr/local/bin/lp.

Is there something basic that I have missed or a change which needs to be 
added?  I have created the libmap.conf file to adjust the different threading 
libraries.  What would I need to do to try to get an error message via the 
command line?  I'm a newbie, when I first set up the printer under 5.2.1, I 
followed some basic set up instructions and the KDE graphical interface took 
right off without problems.  So I never really learned anything. :-)

Any assistance will be appreciated!
Ned

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Re: Printer fails to work after upgrade to 5.3

2005-01-15 Thread Kris Maglione
Fo you have cups-pstoraster?
Also, have you tried gimp-print? The drivers are excellent and work 
extremely well with cups, especially when you use something like 
kprinter --stdin instead of lpr. That way, you have a ton of 
configuration options that you can easily change for each file that you 
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Re: I need a cuppa...

2005-01-15 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote:
 OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed
 and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ,
 and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the
 latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get
 how to get Java support for FreeBSD.  I don't need the JDK, unless
 that's the only way to get a viable JRE.

You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the
JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14.

Cheers.
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Re: I need a cuppa...

2005-01-15 Thread Tabor Kelly
Jonathan Chen wrote:
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote:
OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed
and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ,
and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the
latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get
how to get Java support for FreeBSD.  I don't need the JDK, unless
that's the only way to get a viable JRE.

You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the
JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14.
Cheers.
But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and 
obviously linux emulation).

PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires 
java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be 
safely removed.

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Re: I need a cuppa...

2005-01-15 Thread John
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote:
 Jonathan Chen wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote:
  
 OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed
 and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ,
 and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the
 latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get
 how to get Java support for FreeBSD.  I don't need the JDK, unless
 that's the only way to get a viable JRE.
  
  
  You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the
  JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14.
  
  Cheers.
 
 But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and 
 obviously linux emulation).
 
 PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires 
 java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be 
 safely removed.

Oh, my word!  They don't make this easy, do they???
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Re: Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-15 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror.  On some web
 sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is
 GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page.  The CPU isn't
 busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for.
  It's so bad, it stretches credibility.  Then, as I said, on other
 web sites, it's just fine.  Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and
 just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like 12 out
 of 19 image loaded, and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it
 resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd.

Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some 
images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this happens 
because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm not entirely 
sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know what 
the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as there are 
often page elements which depend on the placement of other elements to 
determine their own placement. However, AFAIK this is also considered a 
bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle this issue gracefully, so (again 
AFAIR) this is something that the KDE project is working to correct. I 
seem to remember something about this waiting until KDE version 4, 
however. I don't speak for them, so apologies if this isn't entirely 
correct.

 So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98.
 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD
 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD
 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working
 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY)
a CD in my laptop multi-bay

Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom

You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it.

BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but 
unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my 
hardware.

 Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3.

 I have a functional laptop again!  YAY!

 Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor
 wrists!

It sounds like so far so good. I know the feeling.

- jt
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Re: Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-15 Thread John
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
 On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror.  On some web
  sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is
  GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page.  The CPU isn't
  busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for.
   It's so bad, it stretches credibility.  Then, as I said, on other
  web sites, it's just fine.  Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and
  just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like 12 out
  of 19 image loaded, and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it
  resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd.
 
 Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some 
 images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this happens 
 because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm not entirely 

Thanks for your response, Joshua!

Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I
supplied, but it is not what's happening.  I can have my Windoze
work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up
these pages in a snap.  Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits
there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network.

 sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know what 
 the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as there are 
 often page elements which depend on the placement of other elements to 
 determine their own placement. However, AFAIK this is also considered a 
 bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle this issue gracefully, so (again 
 AFAIR) this is something that the KDE project is working to correct. I 
 seem to remember something about this waiting until KDE version 4, 
 however. I don't speak for them, so apologies if this isn't entirely 
 correct.
 
  So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98.
  1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD
  2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD
  3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working
  4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY)
 a CD in my laptop multi-bay
 
 Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom

Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs.  4.x used to at least have an atapi-slave
ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel just pauses
and goes on without any message.

It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the
CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout
message.  5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it.
I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and
NFS mount it to complete the installation.  Kludgy, but it works.
OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good
when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;)

 You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it.

I appreciate thoroughness.

 BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but 
 unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my 
 hardware.

Yup - I was just making a little to do list, in case anyone had
any caveats to yell out.  I've already heard from the folks on
the ACPI list - I have some to do's to try.

  Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3.
 
  I have a functional laptop again!  YAY!
 
  Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor
  wrists!
 
 It sounds like so far so good. I know the feeling.
 
 - jt

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DEVICE_POLLING vs. SMP kernels

2005-01-15 Thread Lucky Green
I am contemplating using the DEVICE_POLLING kernel option with an fxp NIC on 
FreeBSD 5.3 using an SMP kernel.

/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c clearly states that DEVICE_POLLING is 
incompatible with SNP kernels:

#ifdef SMP
#ifndef COMPILING_LINT
#error DEVICE_POLLING is not compatible with SMP
#endif
#endif

Yet there are various performance tuning FAQs floating around the Net stating 
that DEVICE_POLLING will work just 
fine with SMP kernels and that the user can safely delete the above section 
from kern_poll.c

This may well be the case, but if this is true, why wouldn't that section have 
been removed from kern_poll.c by 
now? What are the corner cases, if any, that an admin should be aware of that 
keep this error message in the 
code?

TIA,

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Re: I need a cuppa...

2005-01-15 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:34:04PM -0600, John wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote:
  Jonathan Chen wrote:
   On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote:
   
  OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed
  and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ,
  and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the
  latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get
  how to get Java support for FreeBSD.  I don't need the JDK, unless
  that's the only way to get a viable JRE.
   
   
   You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the
   JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14.
   
   Cheers.
  
  But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and 
  obviously linux emulation).
  
  PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires 
  java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be 
  safely removed.
 
 Oh, my word!  They don't make this easy, do they???

Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD
to release a binary version of Java.
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