RE: Softupdates Question

2005-07-15 Thread Norbert Koch
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex de Kruijff
 Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:57 PM
 To: Scott Sipe
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Softupdates Question
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:40:41PM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  At work we're running some rather old accounting software that tells  
  us to disable oplocks and all caheing on our file server (and our  
  clients)--Samba/FreeBSD isn't officially supported (the only  
  platforms that are are Windows Server and Novell--yes, it's old) but  
  we've been running fine on this configuration.
  
  The software is sensitive to data caching issues etc, and corruption  
  is occasionally an issue.
  
  I have all oplocks disabled for the share in samba, and at the moment  
  I have softupdates disabled on the accounting software mount.
  
  My question is, does activating softupdates add any risk of data  
  loss? My guess is no, but I've wanted to play it safe. Our other  
  samba shares all have softupdates enabled and do fine, and speed is  
  becoming somewhat of an issue.
 
 No there's no risk of data loss. 

Yes, there is!
Softupdates guarantees a consistent state of meta data. But there
is a chance of losing a lot of recent file data changes.
An other problem is, that Softupdates cannot know how much data
is still in the hard disk's cache and not yet written back.

I think it cannot easyly be answered, if it is better in this
special configuration to run with or w/o Softupdates.

Norbert
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RE: Using Multiple Internet Connections with FreeBSD

2005-07-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

There isn't any such thing unless you speak BGP and minimum cost
of entry on that (at least in the United States) are 2 T1's and
a business justification to consume a minimum of a /20 of address
space, so that you can obtain your own AS #.

The fee on a /20 is about $2,250.00 a year.

Now, if you go to your ISP and get multiple T1's from him you can
do multilink PPP out of the box and aggregate as much as you want.
We have a couple customers we do this with who have 3Mbt links to
us.

No T1s?  Well, if all you want is DSL, then if you get two DSL lines
from your ISP, you might manage something.  He would have to setup to
speak
multilink PPP to you.  It's possible.  If you were a customer of
my employer and willing to drop a couple grand into a Cisco 2600 with 2
ADSL cards in it, I might even be willing configure this on our
side.

You need to think carefully about how networking operates and you
will eventually understand why what you want isn't possible.  (and
no, it's not because us dirty ISP's want to screw you little guys)

The closest you can get is multiple DSL lines to multiple gateways
inside your network, then set half of your machines up to use one
gateway, the other half to use the other.  That will give you more
combined bandwidth, but still any given individual transfer will
be limited to the max speed of the DSL line to the particular gateway
in use.  (exactly the same problem with the ipfw trick below)

I've responded to many of these kinds of posts over the years in
various forums.  Virtually all of them are people who want to get
2 $19.95 a month DSL lines that are classed as residential service,
instead of a single faster DSL line that is classed as business
service and is more expensive.  Rest assured that if such a thing
were possible (which it isn't) every ISP on the planet would take
steps to block it.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Barbieri
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Philip Hallstrom
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Using Multiple Internet Connections with FreeBSD


Thanks for the reply, but this isnt exactly what I was looking for.

This one is used to force packets out to a specific network depending on
the destination IP address and such.


I was looking for something that would allow for both rundunancy and
speed increase, similar to PPP multi-link or connection teaming (which,
from what ive read, can effecticly double bandwidth).

Thanks again

John

Philip Hallstrom wrote:

 To start off, I have a FreeBSD router running Nat and dhcp, it is
 currently the router for my LAN.

 I was wondering if there was a way to aggregate more then
one internet
 connection using FreeBSD?

 That is, have 2 or 3 internet connections coming in on seperate NICs,
 and being able to have the box route and nat the packets
accordingly to
 the lan, thus giving the experience of more bandwidth. Is it even
 possible?

 Has someone done it before? and if you have, do you have a
webpage that
 you followed instructions from?


 I haven't done it, but I've saved the following email/posts that
 talked about this...  I've left them intact so you can see
the context...

 good luck!

 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 24 09:35:16 2003

 Date: Fri,  3 Nov 2000 18:46:34 -0600
 From: Gerd Knops [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Simon Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Two ISP's. Two IP. One default route...

 Simon Nielsen wrote:

 Hello

 I currently have two internet connections though two different ISP's.
 One is a ADSL and another is shared with the rest of my dorm. The
 shared line is rather slow because many people are using it.

 I must have an IP on the shared connection since that's the only
 place where I can be sure to have a non changing IP for my DNS. But
 the ADSL is much faster so I would like to use that as much as
 possible.

 I can give my machine an IP on each connection but I can of course
 only set one default route. The default route is currently set to the
 ADSL. The problem is that when a connection is made to IP on the
 shared connection my computer uses the ADSL IP to respond and that
 does not work.

 Is there a solution to this? I thought about maybe it is possible to
 route differently when a connection is made on the shared connection
 but I can't find out how to do it.

 Yes, it can be done (though I have not found it documented anywhere).
 I really think there should be separate routing tables for each
 interface, but I don't know of any such feature in any Unix.

 However ipfw can be abused for the above task. Assuming:

 - ipfw is set to pass on default
 - your ADSL IP/network is a.a.a.a/aa
 - your shared IP/network is s.s.s.s/ss
 - your ADSL gateway is set as default route
 - your shared gateway is s.s.s.gw

 the following ipfw rules do the trick:

 # Pass anything that should go via normal routes
 # This rule is really 

RE: Spyware on FreeBSD?

2005-07-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Spyware on FreeBSD?


Not only that, but since we don't have enough money to spend on 
proprietary 
software, we probably aren't attractive for various fraud 
schemes, etc. (just 
a joke, of course :)


Either that or we are all comfortable with the size of our dicks. ;-)

Ted
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Re: Cannot use cvsup

2005-07-15 Thread Igor Robul

Brian John wrote:


Hello,
I can't use cvsup for some reason.  I just tried upgrading from 5.3 to
5.4.  When I try to use cvsup, it says this:
su-2.05b# cvsup
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libXaw.so.8 not found, required by
cvsup
 

If you dont have X11 on this machine, then you need cvsup-without-gui 
package


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Re: /dev/ufs

2005-07-15 Thread Heinrich Rebehn

Dan Nelson wrote:

In the last episode (Jul 14), Heinrich Rebehn said:


Hmm, it does not work:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
19 0xc040 3c8ed4   kernel
2   14 0xc07c9000 56270acpi.ko
31 0xc3c38000 17000linux.ko
41 0xc961 4000 geom_label.ko
51 0xc918f000 2000 geom_vol_ffs.ko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # tunefs -L backup /dev/da1s1a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # tunefs -p /dev/da1s1a
tunefs: volume label: (-L) backup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # ls /dev/ufs
ls: /dev/ufs: No such file or directory

The filesystem is freshly newfs'ed and the partitions have not been
resized.



Try unloding and reloading geom_label.ko; I don't know if it is smart
enough to realize that the tunefs command added a label.  If that
doesn't work you'll have to start adding G_LABEL_DEBUG calls to
/sys/geom/label/g_label_ufs.c and figure out exactly where it's
failing.
 


geom_label cannot be unloaded:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 18 0xc040 3c8ed4   kernel
 2   14 0xc07c9000 56270acpi.ko
 31 0xc3c38000 17000linux.ko
 41 0xc961 4000 geom_label.ko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # kldunload geom_label
kldunload: can't unload file: Operation not supported
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] #

Am i missing something?
Rebooting is not a good option since this is our main server.

--Heinrich
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SSH

2005-07-15 Thread Andrew Budiwaluyo
ok, thanks. now i can connect through SSH. but why
does SSH need a host from the internal network? thanks
for the answer




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Re: Using Multiple Internet Connections with FreeBSD

2005-07-15 Thread Ben Jencks
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John Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Howdy,


 To start off, I have a FreeBSD router running Nat and dhcp, it is
 currently the router for my LAN.

 I was wondering if there was a way to aggregate more then one internet
 connection using FreeBSD?


 That is, have 2 or 3 internet connections coming in on seperate NICs,
 and being able to have the box route and nat the packets accordingly to
 the lan, thus giving the experience of more bandwidth. Is it even possible?

FreeBSD includes PF, which supports this.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html

You need to NAT to an address pool, with round-robin.
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Ben
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Re: DHCP assigned unregistered IP address

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Bob Hall wrote:


1) It is a Motorola cable modem. (SB5100)
 




The modem web page contained this:
The SURFboard cable modem can be used as a gateway to the
Internet by a maximum of 32 users on a Local Area Network (LAN).
When the Cable Modem is disconnected from the Internet, users on
the LAN can be dynamically assigned IP Addresses by the Cable
 


On the SB4100, the Enable DHCP checkbox is right above this blurb.

However, note the When the Cable Modem is disconnected from the 
Internet... so the only reason it should be handing you the local IP is 
if it cannot talk back to the DHCP server it gets your real IP from.  If 
it happens again, you might want to talk to your provider to find out 
*why*.  Does this thing have any flashing lights on the front?


--Alex

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can't mount floppy

2005-07-15 Thread Olga Zenkova
Hi!
I can't mount floppy on FreeBSD 5.4. I run the usual
command:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt

and get /dev/fd0: No such file or directory

When the kernel loads I see:
fdc0: floppy drive controller port ... on acpi0 

What does it mean?

Thanks,
Olga






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Re: can't mount floppy

2005-07-15 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-07-15 03:45, Olga Zenkova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 I can't mount floppy on FreeBSD 5.4. I run the usual
 command:

 mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt

 and get /dev/fd0: No such file or directory

 When the kernel loads I see:
 fdc0: floppy drive controller port ... on acpi0

 What does it mean?

Do you have the necessary device in /dev?

# ls -l /dev/fd*


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Nvidia Driver (Dual post)

2005-07-15 Thread Adam Stroud
All:

Sorry about the second post, it was accidental.  My apologies.

A
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Nvidia Driver

2005-07-15 Thread Adam Stroud
All:

I am having a problem getting my nvidia video card to work since I
portupgraded to the latest nvidia driver in the port.  I had
everything working find using many of the old verions.  Then I
upgraded to the latest version and now when I attempt tp startx, I
get:

X Window System Version 6.8.2

Release Date: 9 February 2005

X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2

Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF]

Current Operating System: FreeBSD host 5.4-STABLE
FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386

Build Date: 24 June 2005

   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org

   to make sure that you have the latest version.

Module Loader present

Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,

   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,

   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 14 22:50:09 2005

(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf

(EE) Failed to load module speedo (module does not exist, 0)

(EE) No devices detected.



Fatal server error:

no screens found



Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support

at http://wiki.X.Org

 for help.

Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional
information.



X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/bootexit

exit

I looked and /var/log/messages, and FreeBSD sees the video card and  I
verified that the module is loaded with kldinfo.  As I said,
everything worked fine with the older version of the port.  Does
anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
A
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Re: Nvidia Driver

2005-07-15 Thread Adam Stroud
I am using the GeForce2 GTS

On 7/15/05, Ian Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 15 July 2005 12:37, Adam Stroud wrote:
  All:
 
  I am having a problem getting my nvidia video card to work since I
  portupgraded to the latest nvidia driver in the port.  I had
  everything working find using many of the old verions.  Then I
  upgraded to the latest version and now when I attempt tp startx, I
  get:
 
  X Window System Version 6.8.2
 
  Release Date: 9 February 2005
 
  X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
 
  Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF]
 
  Current Operating System: FreeBSD osirus.stronet.dyndns.org 5.4-STABLE
  FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386
 
  Build Date: 24 June 2005
 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
 
to make sure that you have the latest version.
 
  Module Loader present
 
  Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 
  (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 14 22:50:09 2005
 
  (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 
  (EE) Failed to load module speedo (module does not exist, 0)
 
  (EE) No devices detected.
 
 
 
  Fatal server error:
 
  no screens found
 
 
 
  Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 
 at http://wiki.X.Org
 
   for help.
 
  Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional
  information.
 
 
 
  X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/bootexit
 
  exit
 
  I looked and /var/log/messages, and FreeBSD sees the video card and  I
  verified that the module is loaded with kldinfo.  As I said,
  everything worked fine with the older version of the port.  Does
  anyone have any ideas?
 
  Thanks
  A
 
 What card do you have - nvidia have dropped support for older chipsets - take
 a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for details.
 That might be the cause of your problem.
 
 Cheers,
 --
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Re: reducing shutdown time

2005-07-15 Thread Igor Robul

Marc Santhoff wrote:


So those vars are only applicant for softupdates. No, no softupdates
involved.

I was searching for a way to shorten the stopping time in general.
 


If all filesystems are read only, then you can try
halt -q (or even halt -q -n)
see halt(8)
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PHP PCRE

2005-07-15 Thread Myron Turner
I just installed FreeBSD 5.4 with PHP 5.0.3 for the express purpose of 
testing out a web-based application.


I was wondering what the rationale is for excluding PCRE from the current 
php distribution.As I understand it, the PCRE extensions are included 
by default  in PHP 5.  This suggests that the FreeBSD  organization opted 
not to include these.  A search of mailing lists shows that  people have 
been having problems because of this.


For me, the solution is not to install a rebuilt php on my test machine, 
because I have to have the assurance that my application will run on any 
FreeBSD system.


Thanks,

Myron Turner

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better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Nick Barnes
I've been running FreeBSD on servers and on my desktop since about
2.2.2.  My current desktop machine is set up for cvsup, although I
haven't done 'make buildworld' for a while (uname says 4.9-RELEASE).

I don't have any good backup system in place for this machine.  I was
thinking it's just a desktop.  But these days it does have a
boatload of personal data on it (e.g. digital photos).  So shoot me.

My main disk (ad0: 114473MB ST3120022A) is having hard errors.
Shoddy rubbish: I've only had it a couple of years.  Past experience
suggests that it's going to take me three or four days to sort this
out (get a new disk, recover what I can from the old one, repair the
OS installation with cvsup/buildworld/installworld, repair packages
and ports in a similar fashion, figure out what's missing from my
files and scratch around in my inadequate personal backups to recover
what I can).

I don't want to have to do all that ever again, after this iteration.

So I'm thinking I probably want to move to a RAID mirror filesystem,
and keep some sort of quality backups offsite.

1. RAID mirror filesystem questions:

1a: should this be vinum?  I have read and can follow the handbook
   instructions for a vinum root filesystem.

1b: Will it help to upgrade to 5.x, to get this to go smoothly?

2. taking backups offsite.  Seems to me that the best route is a
   number of external firewire hard disks.  This machine doesn't have
   motherboard firewire, so I'll need to get a PCI firewire board.

2a: Recommendations for an affordable PCI firewire board?

2b: Should I upgrade to 5.x for the better firewire hardware support?

3c: Opinions on using firewire hard disks for this at all?  Would I be
better off writing DVDs?

3. making backups.

3a: I'm used to dump/restore, but it seems to me that rsync might be a
better tool for this, as it would allow me to mount and browse the
backup.  Opinions?

Nick Barnes

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FrontPage Extensions Install Error

2005-07-15 Thread Drew Tomlinson
I'm trying to install FrontPage extensions on Apache 2.0.54 and FBSD 
5.4-RELEASE-p4.  I've installed the 'www/frontpage' and 
'www/mod_frontpage2-rtr' ports.  Now I'm trying to run the fp_install.sh 
script but get this error:


---BEGIN---

Server config filename:  [/usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf]
FrontPage Administrator's user name:  [fpadmin]
Enter the new server's port number:  [80]

Getting User from /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
Unix user name of the owner of this new web: [www]
Getting Group from /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
Unix group of this new web: [www] Installing root web into port 80...


installing server  /  on port  80

Will chown web to www as part of install.
Will chgrp web to www as part of install.
Bad system call (core dumped)
ERROR:  / installation failed.
Hit enter to continue

---END---

I've Googled but turned up nothing helpful.  Any ideas on what the 
problem might be?


Thanks,

Drew

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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread David Kelly


On Jul 15, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Nick Barnes wrote:


1. RAID mirror filesystem questions:

1a: should this be vinum?  I have read and can follow the handbook
   instructions for a vinum root filesystem.


In my opinion its a fine thing that the root boot filesystem can be  
vinum. However its just not quite something I think is proper. There  
are a few select files on the root filesystem which are unique to  
your system, everything else exists elsewhere such as on your  
installation CDROM.


When you go to build your new filesystem keep a list of the files you  
tweak. Suggest placing it in /root/important_file_list. Be sure to  
list the important file list in your important file list.


tar -cvzf /home/myaccount/backups/today.tar.gz -T /root/ 
important_file_list


Size /usr sufficient for OS and application space but don't place  
critical data there. Make /home your redundant mirror and put  
everything critical there.


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Re: Nvidia Driver

2005-07-15 Thread Ian Moore
On Friday 15 July 2005 20:59, Adam Stroud wrote:

 On 7/15/05, Ian Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 15 July 2005 12:37, Adam Stroud wrote:
   All:
  
   I am having a problem getting my nvidia video card to work since I
   portupgraded to the latest nvidia driver in the port.  I had
   everything working find using many of the old verions.  Then I
   upgraded to the latest version and now when I attempt tp startx, I
   get:
  

 
  What card do you have - nvidia have dropped support for older chipsets -
  take a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for details.
  That might be the cause of your problem.

 I am using the GeForce2 GTS

There's your problem then, it's not supported by the new drivers according to 
the list at http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html

Look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on how to keep the older driver 
on your system.

Cheers,
-- 
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Re: Nvidia Driver

2005-07-15 Thread Adam Stroud
Thanks for the enlightnement.  I have already rebuilt the driver with
the changes that I need.  My system will now longer boot, but that is
another issue.  Thank you for your help.

A

On 7/15/05, Ian Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 15 July 2005 20:59, Adam Stroud wrote:
 
  On 7/15/05, Ian Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Friday 15 July 2005 12:37, Adam Stroud wrote:
All:
   
I am having a problem getting my nvidia video card to work since I
portupgraded to the latest nvidia driver in the port.  I had
everything working find using many of the old verions.  Then I
upgraded to the latest version and now when I attempt tp startx, I
get:
   
 
  
   What card do you have - nvidia have dropped support for older chipsets -
   take a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for details.
   That might be the cause of your problem.
 
  I am using the GeForce2 GTS
 
 There's your problem then, it's not supported by the new drivers according to
 the list at http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
 
 Look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on how to keep the older driver
 on your system.
 
 Cheers,
 --
 Ian
 gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc
 
 

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RE: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Norbert Koch
 1. RAID mirror filesystem questions:
 
 1a: should this be vinum?  I have read and can follow the handbook
instructions for a vinum root filesystem.
 
 1b: Will it help to upgrade to 5.x, to get this to go smoothly?


I'd suggest to buy an ata raid controller, as
hardware should be more easyly portable between operating
systems. And it should be some standard hardware, which
is known to work under FreeBSD*, e.g. Promise.

 
 2. taking backups offsite.  Seems to me that the best route is a
number of external firewire hard disks.  This machine doesn't have
motherboard firewire, so I'll need to get a PCI firewire board.
 
 2a: Recommendations for an affordable PCI firewire board?
 
 2b: Should I upgrade to 5.x for the better firewire hardware support?
 

Yes. And the same is true for usb. (My experience)

Norbert
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Re: 5.4-REL random reboots

2005-07-15 Thread Bas Essers
Well the 3Com costs 30 euros and the realtek was only 10 euros. That's why i 
started testing by disabling the cheapysales one :)

I do have two NICs in the freebsd machine, it's a gateway for my LAN to the 
Internet.
The one on the LAN side is a Broadcom and uses the bfe driver, and the 
external one i replaced was a realtek (rl) and is now a 3com (xl). I'm quiet 
happy with the way it's working now so i'm not going to put more wires in 
there then necessary ;P

On 7/15/05, Gayn Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Casey Scott
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:20 PM
  To: Bas Essers
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: 5.4-REL random reboots
 
 
   Just a little follow-up to conclude my problem.
  
   I solved it by switching from a realtek NIC for my internet
  interface to a
   3COM NIC and i can run everything without these 'random'
  reboots now.
  
   It's still strange to me though because this problem came
  up out of the
   blue.
  
   Well it's all good now :)
  
   --
   Met vriendelijke groet,
   Bas Essers
 
  My rebooting issue has not occurred since I got rid of 3com
  NICs! The plot
  thickens...
 
  Casey
 
 Are there any good test utilities for NICs on FreeBSD? What if there
 are two (or more) NICs? I can imagine a cross-over cable connecting
 them for the test. I also seem to recall a loop back frob (plug) that
 was used to test a single NIC. If one had a known excellent quality NIC
 card, perhaps it could be inserted and used to test the main NIC.
 
 -gayn
 
 
 


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Re: Nvidia Driver

2005-07-15 Thread nawcom
if you can, go ahead and print out your xorg.conf settings and the log 
file for it. I am suspicous that theres something up with that.


Ben

Ian Moore wrote:


On Friday 15 July 2005 12:37, Adam Stroud wrote:
 


All:

I am having a problem getting my nvidia video card to work since I
portupgraded to the latest nvidia driver in the port.  I had
everything working find using many of the old verions.  Then I
upgraded to the latest version and now when I attempt tp startx, I
get:

X Window System Version 6.8.2

Release Date: 9 February 2005

X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2

Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF]

Current Operating System: FreeBSD osirus.stronet.dyndns.org 5.4-STABLE
FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386

Build Date: 24 June 2005

Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org

to make sure that you have the latest version.

Module Loader present

Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,

(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 14 22:50:09 2005

(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf

(EE) Failed to load module speedo (module does not exist, 0)

(EE) No devices detected.



Fatal server error:

no screens found



Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support

 at http://wiki.X.Org

for help.

Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional
information.



X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/bootexit

exit

I looked and /var/log/messages, and FreeBSD sees the video card and  I
verified that the module is loaded with kldinfo.  As I said,
everything worked fine with the older version of the port.  Does
anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
A
   



What card do you have - nvidia have dropped support for older chipsets - take 
a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for details.

That might be the cause of your problem.

Cheers,
 



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Re: Nvidia Driver

2005-07-15 Thread Adam Stroud
Well,

That poses a problem.  During the upgrade (via portupgrade) my machine
rebooted on it's own and now won't boot.  I think I am getting a
kernel error that I was just about to post in another email to the
questions list.  I will copy you on that post.

A

On 7/15/05, nawcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if you can, go ahead and print out your xorg.conf settings and the log
 file for it. I am suspicous that theres something up with that.
 
 Ben
 
 Ian Moore wrote:
 
 On Friday 15 July 2005 12:37, Adam Stroud wrote:
 
 
 All:
 
 I am having a problem getting my nvidia video card to work since I
 portupgraded to the latest nvidia driver in the port.  I had
 everything working find using many of the old verions.  Then I
 upgraded to the latest version and now when I attempt tp startx, I
 get:
 
 X Window System Version 6.8.2
 
 Release Date: 9 February 2005
 
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
 
 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF]
 
 Current Operating System: FreeBSD osirus.stronet.dyndns.org 5.4-STABLE
 FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386
 
 Build Date: 24 June 2005
 
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
 
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
 
 Module Loader present
 
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 14 22:50:09 2005
 
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 
 (EE) Failed to load module speedo (module does not exist, 0)
 
 (EE) No devices detected.
 
 
 
 Fatal server error:
 
 no screens found
 
 
 
 Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 
at http://wiki.X.Org
 
  for help.
 
 Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional
 information.
 
 
 
 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/bootexit
 
 exit
 
 I looked and /var/log/messages, and FreeBSD sees the video card and  I
 verified that the module is loaded with kldinfo.  As I said,
 everything worked fine with the older version of the port.  Does
 anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks
 A
 
 
 
 What card do you have - nvidia have dropped support for older chipsets - take
 a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for details.
 That might be the cause of your problem.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
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Re: Nvidia Driver

2005-07-15 Thread nawcom
well hey stuff like this happenes - i had to handle an issues like this. 
let us know whats stopping it, will be willing to help.

good luck,
Ben


Adam Stroud wrote:


Well,

That poses a problem.  During the upgrade (via portupgrade) my machine
rebooted on it's own and now won't boot.  I think I am getting a
kernel error that I was just about to post in another email to the
questions list.  I will copy you on that post.

A

On 7/15/05, nawcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


if you can, go ahead and print out your xorg.conf settings and the log
file for it. I am suspicous that theres something up with that.

Ben

Ian Moore wrote:

   


On Friday 15 July 2005 12:37, Adam Stroud wrote:


 


All:

I am having a problem getting my nvidia video card to work since I
portupgraded to the latest nvidia driver in the port.  I had
everything working find using many of the old verions.  Then I
upgraded to the latest version and now when I attempt tp startx, I
get:

X Window System Version 6.8.2

Release Date: 9 February 2005

X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2

Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF]

Current Operating System: FreeBSD osirus.stronet.dyndns.org 5.4-STABLE
FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386

Build Date: 24 June 2005

Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org

to make sure that you have the latest version.

Module Loader present

Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,

(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 14 22:50:09 2005

(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf

(EE) Failed to load module speedo (module does not exist, 0)

(EE) No devices detected.



Fatal server error:

no screens found



Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support

 at http://wiki.X.Org

for help.

Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional
information.



X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/bootexit

exit

I looked and /var/log/messages, and FreeBSD sees the video card and  I
verified that the module is loaded with kldinfo.  As I said,
everything worked fine with the older version of the port.  Does
anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
A


   


What card do you have - nvidia have dropped support for older chipsets - take
a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING for details.
That might be the cause of your problem.

Cheers,


 


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FreeBSD will not boot

2005-07-15 Thread Adam Stroud
All:

I updated my nvidia drivers from the ports collection (Using the
WITH_LEGACY_GPU_SUPPORT option to add support for my GeFroce2 GTS). 
During the upgrade process, my machine rebooted on it's own and now
when I boot I get the following error message:

FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386

kernel trap 18 with interrupts disabled

fatal trap 18:  integer divide fault while in kernel mode

instruction pointer  = 0x8:0xc689f8c
stack pointer = 0x10:0xc1020c88
frame pointer = 0x10:0xc1020c9c
code segment   = base 0x0, 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= resume, IOPL=0
current process = 0 ()
trap number  = 18
panic:  integer divide fault
uptime: 1s

Anyone have any ideas?

A
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Freebsd bad routing

2005-07-15 Thread Joseh Martins
Hello,

I have a Freebsd server and some bad routes are been showed to me.

Well, I didnt configured any routing protocols ... 

With the command netstat -r I got a lot of routes with UGHD flags.
I just need the default route (gateway).

With the command netstat -rs I got this message:
127 bad routing redirects
 1091 dynamically created routes

I appreciate some help.
Tks a lot..
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Re: /dev/ufs

2005-07-15 Thread Heinrich Rebehn

Heinrich Rebehn wrote:

Dan Nelson wrote:


In the last episode (Jul 14), Heinrich Rebehn said:


Hmm, it does not work:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
19 0xc040 3c8ed4   kernel
2   14 0xc07c9000 56270acpi.ko
31 0xc3c38000 17000linux.ko
41 0xc961 4000 geom_label.ko
51 0xc918f000 2000 geom_vol_ffs.ko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # tunefs -L backup /dev/da1s1a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # tunefs -p /dev/da1s1a
tunefs: volume label: (-L) backup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # ls /dev/ufs
ls: /dev/ufs: No such file or directory

The filesystem is freshly newfs'ed and the partitions have not been
resized.




Try unloding and reloading geom_label.ko; I don't know if it is smart
enough to realize that the tunefs command added a label.  If that
doesn't work you'll have to start adding G_LABEL_DEBUG calls to
/sys/geom/label/g_label_ufs.c and figure out exactly where it's
failing.
 



geom_label cannot be unloaded:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 18 0xc040 3c8ed4   kernel
 2   14 0xc07c9000 56270acpi.ko
 31 0xc3c38000 17000linux.ko
 41 0xc961 4000 geom_label.ko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] # kldunload geom_label
kldunload: can't unload file: Operation not supported
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [~] #

Am i missing something?
Rebooting is not a good option since this is our main server.

I forgot to # glabel stop -v backup, after that i could unload the 
module. However, i found out that i can more easily achive my goal by 
wiring down scsi unit numbers with kernel environment hints.

Thanks for your help,

Heinrich
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Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS

2005-07-15 Thread Ean Kingston
On July 14, 2005 04:03 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
 On Thursday 14 July 2005 11:37, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  Hello,
  I was wondering if anyone could point me to the release notes or
  code so I could look up the dependencies for the portsmanager package
  and possibly compile it on Mac OS X Tiger.

 Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see
 if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is.  I understand
 Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure?

My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port 
infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed 
was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files. 
They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript 
langauge).

For those who might care, a .dmg file is a mac disk image and seams to be the 
mac equivolent of tar.

Sometimes the installer is a text file that says move the files to your 
applications directory.

 For example can you do things like:
 make
 make install
 make package
 make deinstall
 ???

You would need to install a compiler.

 If the above work diferently or /var/db/pkg/* is different then portmanager
 won't work.  Would be interesting to know the similarities/differences
 between FreeBSD and Mac OS X ports infrastructure.

/var isn't really used by the MAC except for /var/log and /var/run.

 As far as portmanager's dependices, to run it requires libc and to compile
 just needs standard autotools if I recall correctly.

  My FreeBSD machine is currently at home (sadly without an internet
  connection to the outside world :(), and I would like to keep it up to
  date by periodically fetching the ports 'source files'/packages and port
  snapshots. So I thought I could accomplish this via building the
  portsmanager package and running it off of my laptop at school since
  it's the only way I can accomplish my task at hand.
  However, with that in mind, I was wondering if there was a better
  way to fetch ports/packages without having to manhandle too many
  programs/scripts, or if anyone has discovered a better solution to this
  type of 'issue'.
  Thanks and your responses are greatly appreciated as solving this
  'problem' will help save me a great deal of time :)!
  -Garrett

 To use portmanager this way you'll need a way to keep your ports tree
 current and a way to get the current distfiles. If you can do these two
 things somehow then just drop the current distfiles into
 /usr/ports/distfiles and update your ports tree and portmanager should run
 OK.

 -Mike

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Re: FreeBSD 5.x raid...

2005-07-15 Thread Ean Kingston
On July 14, 2005 11:42 pm, David Kelly wrote:
 On Jul 14, 2005, at 7:56 PM, Casper wrote:
  I can`t find gvinum man on my 5.4 and in google too :)

Use the vinum manpage and documentation just mentally substitute gvinum for 
vinum in all commands.

Also, as mentioned before, gvinum is not yet feature complete so some of the 
things listed in the documentation for vinum  doesn't work yet. It's sort of 
hit-and-miss.

There is enough of gvinum to be able to setup a mirror (I did that on 5.3). 
Also, if upgrading from a 4.x system gvinum will read the vinum config from 
the disk BUT after you run gvinum the first time you may have problems 
getting back to vinum (according to the readme).

The change in name from vinum to gvinum is because of the new disk sub-system 
(geom). IIRC It is optional in late version of 4.x and early versions of 5.x. 
It's off by default in 4.x and on by default in 5.x.

 What I was told a year ago was that vinum development and support in
 the 5.x series had ceased and that gvinum was slated to replace
 vinum. As I said previously vinum worked once running but had about a
 50/50 probability of remembering my configuration between reboots.
 Simply changing the startup file /etc/rc.d/vinum to start gvinum
 rather than vinum solved the problem completely using the drives
 configured with vinum without rebuilding the volume.

 Gvinum is necessary due to internal changes in FreeBSD due to GEOM.

 It has also been said that gvinum does not yet have all the features
 of vinum. What its lacking, I can't say.

  I`m thinking for my server better tool is gmirror?

 Gvinum worked for my striped volume. I can't say how gmirror differs
 from gvinum. Maybe someone who has run both will speak.

 The gvinum mirror command I provided earlier should have you up and
 running very quickly. Suggest you try it. Beat on the system.
 Practice removing a plex, trashing it as if it were a new drive, then
 rebuilding the mirror. Then do the same for gmirror. Now is the right
 time to play with it before the system goes into production and
 becomes too precious to play with.

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Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS

2005-07-15 Thread Jacob A. Siehler



Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see
if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is.  I understand
Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure?

My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port
infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed
was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files.
They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript
langauge).


The nearest OS X analogy to the ports system is fink:
http://fink.sourceforge.net/

js

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DHCP Server Offline.

2005-07-15 Thread Stephan Weaver

Hello folks,

I have a Stand Alone FreeBSD Firewall / Nat / Dhcp Server.
Everything seems to work fine, up until this morning.
Users seem to complain they could not get on the network anymore.

Further investigation revealed the dhcp server could not be contacted.
Further more, only some of the users were online.
I am guessing that these clients who were online had an ip address from the 
dhcp server at a previous time and the lease didnt expire as yet.
And users who were not online, the lease expired and attempted to contact 
the dhcp server and failed.


I Would appreciate any help or suggestions.
Like what to do in the future incase this happens again.
I Would like to find out what had happened.

The last thing that i had done to the server was setup, configure and 
install 'ntop';

dont know if this would cause a problem.

Thank you in advance.
Stephan Weaver

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Re: DHCP Server Offline.

2005-07-15 Thread Ean Kingston
On July 15, 2005 10:11 am, Stephan Weaver wrote:
 Hello folks,

 I have a Stand Alone FreeBSD Firewall / Nat / Dhcp Server.
 Everything seems to work fine, up until this morning.
 Users seem to complain they could not get on the network anymore.

 Further investigation revealed the dhcp server could not be contacted.
 Further more, only some of the users were online.
 I am guessing that these clients who were online had an ip address from the
 dhcp server at a previous time and the lease didnt expire as yet.
 And users who were not online, the lease expired and attempted to contact
 the dhcp server and failed.

 I Would appreciate any help or suggestions.

Set the lease expire time to at least 5 days (7 to 10 is better) and the 
renewal time to between 4 and 12 hours.

Then setup a dhcp monitoring process that will alert you if it fails to get an 
address or renewal.

Make sure you have more addresses available than you ever expect to give out. 
I go with 50% more. I've known some admins that want at least double.

 Like what to do in the future incase this happens again.

Setup 2 dhcp servers on the network. If one fails, the other will hopefully 
continue to serve addresses. Monitor this one as well.

 I Would like to find out what had happened.

Start reading logs. 

 The last thing that i had done to the server was setup, configure and
 install 'ntop';
 dont know if this would cause a problem.

 Thank you in advance.
 Stephan Weaver

 P.S. Please reply to my Directly at @
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Re: DHCP Server Offline.

2005-07-15 Thread Stephan Weaver

I Found out the Problem,
The /var partation is full.
How do i find out where is taking up all the space?


Thanks


From: Ean Kingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP Server Offline.
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:18:09 -0400

On July 15, 2005 10:11 am, Stephan Weaver wrote:
 Hello folks,

 I have a Stand Alone FreeBSD Firewall / Nat / Dhcp Server.
 Everything seems to work fine, up until this morning.
 Users seem to complain they could not get on the network anymore.

 Further investigation revealed the dhcp server could not be contacted.
 Further more, only some of the users were online.
 I am guessing that these clients who were online had an ip address from 
the

 dhcp server at a previous time and the lease didnt expire as yet.
 And users who were not online, the lease expired and attempted to 
contact

 the dhcp server and failed.

 I Would appreciate any help or suggestions.

Set the lease expire time to at least 5 days (7 to 10 is better) and the
renewal time to between 4 and 12 hours.

Then setup a dhcp monitoring process that will alert you if it fails to get 
an

address or renewal.

Make sure you have more addresses available than you ever expect to give 
out.

I go with 50% more. I've known some admins that want at least double.

 Like what to do in the future incase this happens again.

Setup 2 dhcp servers on the network. If one fails, the other will hopefully
continue to serve addresses. Monitor this one as well.

 I Would like to find out what had happened.

Start reading logs.

 The last thing that i had done to the server was setup, configure and
 install 'ntop';
 dont know if this would cause a problem.

 Thank you in advance.
 Stephan Weaver

 P.S. Please reply to my Directly at @
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Re: DHCP Server Offline.

2005-07-15 Thread David van Geyn
du /var | sort -rn | more

This will sort the output with the largest directories at the top. Then
you can examine what is in the directories that is taking up the space.

David
http://freebsd.vangeyn.net/

 I Found out the Problem,
 The /var partation is full.
 How do i find out where is taking up all the space?


 Thanks

From: Ean Kingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP Server Offline.
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:18:09 -0400

On July 15, 2005 10:11 am, Stephan Weaver wrote:
  Hello folks,
 
  I have a Stand Alone FreeBSD Firewall / Nat / Dhcp Server.
  Everything seems to work fine, up until this morning.
  Users seem to complain they could not get on the network anymore.
 
  Further investigation revealed the dhcp server could not be contacted.
  Further more, only some of the users were online.
  I am guessing that these clients who were online had an ip address
 from
the
  dhcp server at a previous time and the lease didnt expire as yet.
  And users who were not online, the lease expired and attempted to
contact
  the dhcp server and failed.
 
  I Would appreciate any help or suggestions.

Set the lease expire time to at least 5 days (7 to 10 is better) and the
renewal time to between 4 and 12 hours.

Then setup a dhcp monitoring process that will alert you if it fails to
 get
an
address or renewal.

Make sure you have more addresses available than you ever expect to give
out.
I go with 50% more. I've known some admins that want at least double.

  Like what to do in the future incase this happens again.

Setup 2 dhcp servers on the network. If one fails, the other will
 hopefully
continue to serve addresses. Monitor this one as well.

  I Would like to find out what had happened.

Start reading logs.

  The last thing that i had done to the server was setup, configure and
  install 'ntop';
  dont know if this would cause a problem.
 
  Thank you in advance.
  Stephan Weaver
 
  P.S. Please reply to my Directly at @
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Freebsd bad routing

2005-07-15 Thread Greg Barniskis

Joseh Martins wrote:

Hello,

I have a Freebsd server and some bad routes are been showed to me.

Well, I didnt configured any routing protocols ... 


With the command netstat -r I got a lot of routes with UGHD flags.
I just need the default route (gateway).

With the command netstat -rs I got this message:
127 bad routing redirects
 1091 dynamically created routes

I appreciate some help.
Tks a lot..


UGHD would seem to indicate that your box has been told (by ICMP 
redirects) not to use your configured default gateway to reach a 
specific host, but to use a different gateway instead. It is not 
necessarily a bad thing.


My guess: either (a) there are two or more available gateways 
upstream from you and they are legitimately collaborating to inform 
you of the best (possibly only) routes to use to get to various 
destinations, or (b) you are getting bad ICMP redirects from 
somewhere, either accidental or intentional.


If you know that one or more of the indicated UGHD routes is just 
plain wrong, that would be bad (maybe a spoofing or DoS attack of 
some kind). If you are unsure whether the routes are valid or not, 
contact the route provider upstream from you for clarification of 
whether this is legitimate (and whether you have specified the 
correct default gateway in the first place).


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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Helge Preuss

[...]


So I'm thinking I probably want to move to a RAID mirror filesystem,
and keep some sort of quality backups offsite.

1. RAID mirror filesystem questions:

1a: should this be vinum?  I have read and can follow the handbook
  instructions for a vinum root filesystem.

1b: Will it help to upgrade to 5.x, to get this to go smoothly?

2. taking backups offsite.  Seems to me that the best route is a
  number of external firewire hard disks.  This machine doesn't have
  motherboard firewire, so I'll need to get a PCI firewire board.

2a: Recommendations for an affordable PCI firewire board?

2b: Should I upgrade to 5.x for the better firewire hardware support?
 

If you have to reinstall anyway, why not upgrade to 5 in any case, while 
you're at it. Just an overall opinion unrelated to your technical 
questions. And yes, at least for firewire, I'm quite positive that 5 has 
far better support.



3c: Opinions on using firewire hard disks for this at all?  Would I be
   better off writing DVDs?

3. making backups.

3a: I'm used to dump/restore, but it seems to me that rsync might be a
   better tool for this, as it would allow me to mount and browse the
   backup.  Opinions?
 


I used rsync for a while, and given your question, I would advocate for it.

Recently I discovered a backup solution that suits me much better: 
subversion. Granted, backups are not what it was originally written for, 
but I was intrigued by the ides of using a version control system for 
backups, as I can easily back up and restore every change I make. I have 
the subversion repository on an external HDD, and commit the changes 
every couple of hours per cronjob, or manually if I make important 
changes. The repository is backed up on DVD regularly.


Pros: Performs much better than rsync, and is more flexible, IMO. And of 
course the possibility of using version control on all your files.
Cons: it was not trivial to set up, and if you have not set up a version 
control system before, it can cause severe head-scratching (you have 
been warned). Also, it uses twice as much space on the local disk as 
before. I don't use the version control on my Multimedia collection, but 
this changes slowly anyway and thus an occasional backup on DVD is 
alright with me.



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Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS

2005-07-15 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 15 July 2005 07:08, you wrote:
  Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and
  see if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is.  I
  understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port
  infrastructure?
 
  My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port
  infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've
  installed was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from
  .dmg files. They each provided their own installer (usually using the
  applescript langauge).

 The nearest OS X analogy to the ports system is fink:
 http://fink.sourceforge.net/

 js

Just read Fink's description, thanks for the link.  My opinion is FreeBSD's
ports system is lightyears ahead of Fink and Fink is headed in absolutly
the wrong direction, reminds me of the other BSDs.  What makes FreeBSD
shine is the same ports tree works across many versions of FreeBSD, trying to 
control the ports tree by versioning is madness, int my humble opinion 
anyways.

-Mike
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Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS

2005-07-15 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 15 July 2005 06:54, Ean Kingston wrote:
 On July 14, 2005 04:03 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  On Thursday 14 July 2005 11:37, Garrett Cooper wrote:
   Hello,
   I was wondering if anyone could point me to the release notes or
   code so I could look up the dependencies for the portsmanager package
   and possibly compile it on Mac OS X Tiger.
 
  Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see
  if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is.  I
  understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port
  infrastructure?

 My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port
 infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed
 was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files.
 They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript
 langauge).


Too bad for Apple, the ports system is what makes FreeBSD shine, no point
in trying to get portmanager running in OS X in any case.

-Mike




 For those who might care, a .dmg file is a mac disk image and seams to be
 the mac equivolent of tar.

 Sometimes the installer is a text file that says move the files to your
 applications directory.

  For example can you do things like:
  make
  make install
  make package
  make deinstall
  ???

 You would need to install a compiler.

  If the above work diferently or /var/db/pkg/* is different then
  portmanager won't work.  Would be interesting to know the
  similarities/differences between FreeBSD and Mac OS X ports
  infrastructure.

 /var isn't really used by the MAC except for /var/log and /var/run.

  As far as portmanager's dependices, to run it requires libc and to
  compile just needs standard autotools if I recall correctly.
 
   My FreeBSD machine is currently at home (sadly without an internet
   connection to the outside world :(), and I would like to keep it up to
   date by periodically fetching the ports 'source files'/packages and
   port snapshots. So I thought I could accomplish this via building the
   portsmanager package and running it off of my laptop at school since
   it's the only way I can accomplish my task at hand.
   However, with that in mind, I was wondering if there was a better
   way to fetch ports/packages without having to manhandle too many
   programs/scripts, or if anyone has discovered a better solution to this
   type of 'issue'.
   Thanks and your responses are greatly appreciated as solving this
   'problem' will help save me a great deal of time :)!
   -Garrett
 
  To use portmanager this way you'll need a way to keep your ports tree
  current and a way to get the current distfiles. If you can do these two
  things somehow then just drop the current distfiles into
  /usr/ports/distfiles and update your ports tree and portmanager should
  run OK.
 
  -Mike
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Re: Matlab7 (R14)

2005-07-15 Thread Rodolphe Conan
Me after the install, I have created the following symbolic link:
ln -s /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/jre jre1.5.0
in /path/to/matlab/install/sys/java/jre/glnx86
and finally add a startup.m file
in /path/to/matlab/install/toolbox/local with the following line inside
set(0,'DefaultFigureRenderer','ZBuffer','DefaultFigureRendererMode','Manual')

And now matlab7 works for me!
Hopes it will help
Rod

On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 13:26 +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 * Rodolphe Conan [2005-07-13 08:31 -0700]
   I finally got Matlab 7 working!
   I have put the following in the startup m-file
   set(0,'DefaultFigureRenderer','ZBuffer',...
   'DefaultFigureRendererMode','Manual')
   Before to set these default properties, doing get(gcf,'Renderer') gave
   me None !
 
 
 COuld you please provide me with a step-by-step guide on how to setup 
 Matlab / on a FreeBSD 5.4 system? Is this DefaultFigureRenderer setting 
 all you need to alter? And where do I put this configuration? 
 
 I've installed Matlab 7 using:
   
   /compat/linux/bin/sh /path/to/matlab/install
 
 
 This gives me a seemingly working Matlab, except almost everything I try 
 to di results in a freeze. I get the same /lib/libc.so.6: cannot execute 
 binary file error as you reported, but this doesn't seem to cause any 
 trouble. Java crashes all the time too. Did you change the bundles java? 
 If so, how?
 
 
 
 Svein Halvor

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Re: FreeBSD will not boot

2005-07-15 Thread nawcom

ok from what ive figured out is  that kernel option WITH_LEGACY_GPU_SUPPORT
is highly unsupported for the 5.x kernel

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/Makefile?rev=1.34content-type=text/plain

my usual suggestion is to use the driver from nvidia.com, nvidia is very
friendly to the open source community - so they have drivers for
freebsd. ive used it myself and agp support works great.

now -  for actually getting back into your system:

do you have a back up kernel handy in your operating system?

i know depending on how things are orginally set up when you install a 
new kernel
the makefile copies the original kernel folder (/boot/kernel) to 
/boot/kernel.old and

/boot/kernel is replaced with the new one.

when you boot up freebsd and you get to the boot screen - select option 
number 6. then

enter the following commands:
unload
load /boot/kernel.old/kernel
boot

let me know if you make it into the OS and if you do  - be sure and 
remove that nvidia option!

ok i hope this help let me know of your status.
-Ben




Adam Stroud wrote:


All:

I updated my nvidia drivers from the ports collection (Using the
WITH_LEGACY_GPU_SUPPORT option to add support for my GeFroce2 GTS). 
During the upgrade process, my machine rebooted on it's own and now

when I boot I get the following error message:

FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386

kernel trap 18 with interrupts disabled

fatal trap 18:  integer divide fault while in kernel mode

instruction pointer  = 0x8:0xc689f8c
stack pointer = 0x10:0xc1020c88
frame pointer = 0x10:0xc1020c9c
code segment   = base 0x0, 0xf, type 0x1b
   = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= resume, IOPL=0
current process = 0 ()
trap number  = 18
panic:  integer divide fault
uptime: 1s

Anyone have any ideas?

A
 



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Problems with postfix / mysql /maildrop / courier-imap

2005-07-15 Thread cell
Hello , i have a problem when i sent a mail with a virtual user.I am on freebsd 
5.4 and i use postfix-2.1.5_1,1 , maildrop-1.8.0_3  , courier-authlib-0.56 , 
courier-authlib-mysql-0.56 and courier-imap-4.0.3,1 .
When i sent a mail with a virtual user , i have that in my log :

Jul 15 17:56:27 linux-win postfix/smtpd[1067]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 15 17:56:27 linux-win postfix/smtpd[1067]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 
localhost[127.0.0.1]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User 
unknown in virtual mailbox table; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] proto=ESMTP helo=www.linux-win.org
Jul 15 17:56:27 linux-win postfix/smtpd[1067]: lost connection after RCPT from 
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 15 17:56:27 linux-win postfix/cleanup[1068]: 8EF685806: message-id=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Jul 15 17:56:27 linux-win postfix/qmgr[667]: 8EF685806: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=862, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jul 15 17:56:27 linux-win postfix/smtpd[1067]: disconnect from 
localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 15 17:56:33 linux-win postfix/local[1069]: 8EF685806: to=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], orig_to=postmaster, relay=local, delay=6, status=sent (delivered 
to command: /usr/local/bin/procmail)
Jul 15 17:56:33 linux-win postfix/qmgr[667]: 8EF685806: removed
Jul 15 17:57:05 linux-win imapd: LOGIN, user=flob2009, ip=[:::127.0.0.1], 
protocol=IMAP
Jul 15 17:57:05 linux-win imapd: LOGOUT, user=flob2009, ip=[:::127.0.0.1], 
headers=0, body=0, time=0


In my main.cf , i have that :


command_directory = /usr/local/sbin
daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name $mail_version (FreeBSD)
setgid_group = maildrop
biff = no
masquerade_domains = mail.linux-win.org linux-win.org
masquerade_exceptions = root
# appending .domain is the MUA's job.
append_dot_mydomain = yes
myhostname = linux-win.org
mydestination = $myhostname
alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_database = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/aliases
home_mailbox = Maildir/
mail_spool_directory = /var/mail
local_destination_concurrency_limit= 1
default_destination_concurrency_limit = 1
smtpd_recipient_limit = 50
notify_classes=bounce,resource,software,policy
relayhost =
relay_domains =
mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/32, 192.168.3.0/32, 127.0.0.0/8
mailbox_command = /usr/local/bin/procmail
mailbox_size_limit = 0
mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq
message_size_limit = 1000
recipient_delimiter = +
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,

reject_unauth_pipelining,reject_unauth_destination,reject_invalid_hostname,reject_unknown_recipient_domain
smtpd_sender_restrictions = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/access,
reject_unknown_sender_domain,
reject_invalid_hostname
header_checks = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/header_checks
strict_rfc821_envelopes = yes
unknown_address_reject_code = 554
unknown_client_reject_code = 554
unknown_hostname_reject_code = 554
readme_directory = no
sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix
sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
manpage_directory = /usr/local/man
newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
mail_owner = postfix
unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450

virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf
virtual_gid_maps = static:125
virtual_mailbox_base = /home/vmail
virtual_mailbox_domains = 
mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf
virtual_mailbox_maps = 
mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_mailbox_limit = 5120
virtual_minimum_uid = 125
virtual_transport = maildrop
virtual_uid_maps = static:125
content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024

My authmysqlrc is :

MYSQL_CRYPT_PWFIELD password
MYSQL_DATABASE  postfix
MYSQL_GID_FIELD '125'
MYSQL_HOME_FIELD'/home/vmail'
MYSQL_LOGIN_FIELD   username
MYSQL_MAILDIR_FIELD maildir
MYSQL_NAME_FIELDname
MYSQL_OPT   0
MYSQL_PASSWORD  **
MYSQL_SERVERlocalhost
MYSQL_UID_FIELD '125'
MYSQL_USERNAME  postfix
MYSQL_USER_TABLEmailbox

and i have add a virtual domain who is mail.linux-win.org and a virtual user 
with phpmyadmin.With phypmyadmin , in the table mailbox , i have that :

username flob2009
password  *
nameMailbox User
maildir  [EMAIL PROTECTED]/Maildir/
quota0


etc...


With maildrop , i have that :

maildrop -V 9 -d flob2009
maildrop: authlib: groupid=125
maildrop: authlib: userid=125
maildrop: authlib: logname=flob2009, home=/home/vmail, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/Maildir/
maildrop: Changing to /home/vmail


Anyone see where is the probleme , because i don't know why postfix say 
Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table.







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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

Nick Barnes wrote:
[ ... ]

I don't want to have to do all that ever again, after this iteration.


You've had a learning experience, I see.  :-)


So I'm thinking I probably want to move to a RAID mirror filesystem,
and keep some sort of quality backups offsite.

1. RAID mirror filesystem questions:

1a: should this be vinum?  I have read and can follow the handbook
   instructions for a vinum root filesystem.


You should use a real (not software-driven) hardware RAID solution, say from 
3ware or Promise for (parallel) ATA or SATA, or maybe Adaptec or LSI's 
SCSI-based RAID hardware if you want to get fancy and are willing to spend the 
extra bucks.  Note that a good RAID controller comes with a small internal 
battery backup which it's cache and the drives are powered off of.



1b: Will it help to upgrade to 5.x, to get this to go smoothly?


Upgrading to 5.x is a seperate matter, but if you are rebuilding the box, it's 
a reasonable idea.  5.4 is only a bit different from 4.11 in terms of visible 
changes which might affect how you use it, but there are a lot of improvements 
underneath in terms of ACPI and USB support, as well as obviously better SMP 
(which is less likely to matter for a uniprocessor desktop).



2. taking backups offsite.  Seems to me that the best route is a
   number of external firewire hard disks.  This machine doesn't have
   motherboard firewire, so I'll need to get a PCI firewire board.

2a: Recommendations for an affordable PCI firewire board?


The VIA 6202 (I almost said 6502, but that was another era :-) works good, as 
does the firewire interface found on sound cards from a common vendor.  Limited 
testing suggests that they all have very similiar performance and CPU overhead.



2b: Should I upgrade to 5.x for the better firewire hardware support?


The firewire support in 4.x seems to be very good, actually, and I think speaks 
highly of the people who wrote it.



3c: Opinions on using firewire hard disks for this at all?  Would I be
better off writing DVDs?


Hard drives provide near-online backup, but only a single full iteration.  You 
can do incrementals to DVD or CD-RW or tape, and keep many iterations handy, 
which is far more reliable.



3. making backups.

3a: I'm used to dump/restore, but it seems to me that rsync might be a
better tool for this, as it would allow me to mount and browse the
backup.  Opinions?


This is good if you set up an entire system as a backup, although you could 
dual-purpose that box and have it act as a fileserver, proxy server, who knows, 
  as well.


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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2005-07-15 Thread Greg Lehey

How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===

Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
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If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
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Contents:

I:Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
   security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2005-07-15 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?  Please
let me know: I'm constantly updating it.

Greg
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Re: DHCP assigned unregistered IP address

2005-07-15 Thread Bob Hall
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 11:38:07AM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
 Bob Hall wrote:
 
 The modem web page contained this:
  The SURFboard cable modem can be used as a gateway to the
  Internet by a maximum of 32 users on a Local Area Network (LAN).
  When the Cable Modem is disconnected from the Internet, users on
  the LAN can be dynamically assigned IP Addresses by the Cable
  
 
 On the SB4100, the Enable DHCP checkbox is right above this blurb.

Yes, I've seen screen shots with it. The SB5100 has no checkbox.
 
 However, note the When the Cable Modem is disconnected from the 
 Internet... so the only reason it should be handing you the local IP is 
 if it cannot talk back to the DHCP server it gets your real IP from.  If 

Yea, that's pretty obvious. It's also pretty undesirable. Apparently,
Motorola decided the checkbox was confusing and removed it, replacing it
with this automatic behavior. Blea.

 it happens again, you might want to talk to your provider to find out 
 *why*.  Does this thing have any flashing lights on the front?

There are LEDs, but they didn't indicate anything was wrong. There have
been many reboots over the time I've been with this ISP, and this is the
only time this happened. I'm not going to demand an explanation for a
fluke. A better question is why the tech I talked to told me that the
unregistered IP address wasn't a problem. But she did tell me that she
was new, and generally the techs can distinguish between their cloacal
anatomy and a geophysical excavation.
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Re: FreeBSD will not boot

2005-07-15 Thread Adam Stroud
Thanks for your help.  I will have to wait untill I get home to fix
the problem (I am at work now).  I will let you know how I make out.

Thanks Again
A

On 7/15/05, nawcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok from what ive figured out is  that kernel option WITH_LEGACY_GPU_SUPPORT
 is highly unsupported for the 5.x kernel
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/Makefile?rev=1.34content-type=text/plain
 
 my usual suggestion is to use the driver from nvidia.com, nvidia is very
 friendly to the open source community - so they have drivers for
 freebsd. ive used it myself and agp support works great.
 
 now -  for actually getting back into your system:
 
 do you have a back up kernel handy in your operating system?
 
 i know depending on how things are orginally set up when you install a
 new kernel
 the makefile copies the original kernel folder (/boot/kernel) to
 /boot/kernel.old and
 /boot/kernel is replaced with the new one.
 
 when you boot up freebsd and you get to the boot screen - select option
 number 6. then
 enter the following commands:
  unload
  load /boot/kernel.old/kernel
  boot
 
 let me know if you make it into the OS and if you do  - be sure and
 remove that nvidia option!
 ok i hope this help let me know of your status.
 -Ben
 
 
 
 
 Adam Stroud wrote:
 
 All:
 
 I updated my nvidia drivers from the ports collection (Using the
 WITH_LEGACY_GPU_SUPPORT option to add support for my GeFroce2 GTS).
 During the upgrade process, my machine rebooted on it's own and now
 when I boot I get the following error message:
 
 FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 24 23:25:37 EDT 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APS_KERN i386
 
 kernel trap 18 with interrupts disabled
 
 fatal trap 18:  integer divide fault while in kernel mode
 
 instruction pointer  = 0x8:0xc689f8c
 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc1020c88
 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc1020c9c
 code segment   = base 0x0, 0xf, type 0x1b
 = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 processor eflags= resume, IOPL=0
 current process = 0 ()
 trap number  = 18
 panic:  integer divide fault
 uptime: 1s
 
 Anyone have any ideas?
 
 A
 
 
 

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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Chuck Swiger wrote:


Nick Barnes wrote:
[ ... ]


3c: Opinions on using firewire hard disks for this at all?  Would I be
better off writing DVDs?



Hard drives provide near-online backup, but only a single full 
iteration.  You can do incrementals to DVD or CD-RW or tape, and keep 
many iterations handy, which is far more reliable.


A recent message on this list was from someone detailing the lengths 
they went to to prevent DVD backups from becoming unusable.  A search on 
DVD ought to find it.  Mind you, I have heard people say that DAT is 
unreliable whereas (fingers crossed) it has proved fine for me.





3. making backups.

3a: I'm used to dump/restore, but it seems to me that rsync might be a
better tool for this, as it would allow me to mount and browse the
backup.  Opinions?



This is good if you set up an entire system as a backup, although you 
could dual-purpose that box and have it act as a fileserver, proxy 
server, who knows,   as well.


I was planning something along these lines as well.  My intention is to 
have an oldish box that I can rsync to at regular intervals (probably 
from filesystem snapshots) in such a way that this would a) provide data 
backup b) provide machine backup as well.   In the meantime, it can be a 
web server or a gateway or whatever.


Originally I was going to run a couple disks with hardware RAID 1, since 
the motherboard has twin SATA RAID controllers.  But I think I'm 
changing my mind.


I've always been a bit dubious of the advantage of RAID 1.  Starting 
with two identical disks which came off the assembly line possibly 
within minutes of each other, then assuming that one fails, I believe 
that the odds of the second one also failing are greatly increased.  And 
ghods forbid, the disks you get turn out to be the next Deskstar 60 (or 
was it 75?).  Then there is the chance of controller failure.  And then 
there's the knowing if one of your RAID 1 disks has actually failed.  
Unless there is a CLI for your RAID, or FreeBSD knows enough about it, 
one disk could fail and you might not even know it, especially if you 
don't reboot regularly, or don't watch the machine POST.  On most 
desktop machines, you're stuck with one disk activity LED, which is no 
help.  Even one LED per controller isn't good enough.


So my new plan is to have two disks running RAID 0 and to rsync them 
regularly to a different kind of disk which isn't raided at all and 
which is on a different controller, as well as to the remote machine.  
If one of the raided disks fails, then I lose some amount of work, 
depending on how often an rsync is practical.  I'm prepared to live with 
that risk given that I think RAID 0 will give great benefits in some of 
the long-winded, disk-intensive, database-y stuff I do.  No doubt 
someone can tell me the error of my plan :-)  So far, it is all theory.


This is in addition to tape.

David Kelly wrote:

There  are a few select files on the root filesystem which are unique 
to  your system, everything else exists elsewhere such as on your  
installation CDROM.


When you go to build your new filesystem keep a list of the files you  
tweak. Suggest placing it in /root/important_file_list. Be sure to  
list the important file list in your important file list.


tar -cvzf /home/myaccount/backups/today.tar.gz -T /root/ 
important_file_list


Size /usr sufficient for OS and application space but don't place  
critical data there. Make /home your redundant mirror and put  
everything critical there. 


Can't argue with the principle.  Don't forget that there are system 
specific files on /usr/local as well.  Most of it comes straight out of 
ports but there there are the config files, tweaked startup files, 
scripts in /usr/local/bin etc.  Also, if you don't have a list of the 
ports you have, then /var/db becomes important as well.


--Alex


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Re: DHCP assigned unregistered IP address

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Bob Hall wrote:



However, note the When the Cable Modem is disconnected from the 
Internet... so the only reason it should be handing you the local IP is 
if it cannot talk back to the DHCP server it gets your real IP from.  If 
   



Yea, that's pretty obvious. It's also pretty undesirable. Apparently,
Motorola decided the checkbox was confusing and removed it, replacing it
with this automatic behavior. Blea.
 


Learning from Microsoft ;-)

If it happens again, you might want to talk to your provider to find out 
*why*.  Does this thing have any flashing lights on the front?
   



There are LEDs, but they didn't indicate anything was wrong. There have
been many reboots over the time I've been with this ISP, and this is the
only time this happened. I'm not going to demand an explanation for a
fluke. 

I just meant that it might indicate a fault somewhere in either your 
modem or (more likely) some of the hardware between it and the ISP.  
Somewhere I have a list of acceptable values for some of the (to me) 
impenetrable signal levels etc. which my 4100 can show me.  At least if 
I see one of those is bad, then I know it's not my fault.  If things 
don't return to normal in a while, then maybe it's worth contacting tech 
support or checking their status page (which I can only do because I 
still have a separate dial-up account for just such emergencies).


Also if the 4100 can't reach the DHCP server, the green lights won't 
ever all come on, so it's pretty obvious when there is a fault.  Of 
course, that might be because the local DHCP server has been turned off ;-)



A better question is why the tech I talked to told me that the
unregistered IP address wasn't a problem. But she did tell me that she
was new, and generally the techs can distinguish between their cloacal
anatomy and a geophysical excavation.
 

My experience of virtually every large organisation is that there are 
two types of techs.  The ones for whom their cloacal anatomy is 
indistinguishable from their articulatio cubiti, and the ones who 
actually know how to listen, diagnose a problem etc.  With the rise in 
call centres, the former are becoming more prevalent, and it gets harder 
to get your problems referred to the latter.  When the person you talk 
to has a script which doesn't go beyond turn if off; leave it for 30 
seconds and turn it back on again, you are in trouble.


--Alex

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IPFW+natd Cisco VPN tunnelling....

2005-07-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

Hi, all--

I'm working on a new firewall running FreeBSD-5.4, IPFW, and natd for a small 
client network of about 50 boxes, using a single routable IP via a T1 link.
They want to set up a Cisco 87x router as a VPN endpoint, my part is to set up 
forwarding of the VPN traffic via the firewall to this cisco.  The firewall box 
is a Dell 2850 with dual Intel em NICs.


Since I'm waiting for someone else to get that box up, I decided to check here 
whether my config is sane.  I'm using a normal divert rule to forward traffic 
to natd, which is working fine, and have this as /etc/natd.conf:


# NATD configuration options
dynamic yes
interface em1
#log yes
log_denied yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
unregistered_only yes
redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.2:www www
redirect_proto gre ciscovpn
redirect_port udp ciscovpn:500 500
redirect_port tcp ciscovpn:1 1
redirect_port tcp ciscovpn:pptp pptp

...where ciscovpn is obviously the hostname for the Cisco 870 box.

Is there any way to convince natd to re-read the natd.conf file short of 
killing and restarting the daemon entirely?  The manpage didn't say so, and 
kill -HUP terminates the process.


--
-Chuck

PS: It seems unfortunate that not including a natd_interface statement in 
rc.conf causes /etc/rc.firewall to not include a divert rule, but that can be 
corrected by using your own rules in a file and setting firewall_type.

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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 15, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:




3c: Opinions on using firewire hard disks for this at all?  Would  
I be

better off writing DVDs?



Hard drives provide near-online backup, but only a single full  
iteration.  You can do incrementals to DVD or CD-RW or tape, and  
keep many iterations handy, which is far more reliable.


If you use dump/restore you can do iterative backups to a spare HD as  
well...


Chad



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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread lars

-   /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools
can help you monitor your HDDs

-   RAID 0 doubles the chances of HDD failure and thereby data loss

-   DVDs and CDs are chronically unreliable, see the 14/2005 issue of the
German c't magazine where they tested CD/DVD burners and media
and found out that a lot of media are neither burnable nor readable
by a lot of CD/DVD drives

-   But since you need high performance on your HDDs and backup to tape,
you're probably fine

-   A hybrid approach of backing up data to a separate box
and to some removable media is probably the best.
And, nowadays at least, not even that expensive,
e.g. Mini-ITX boards are cheap and fast enough for this purpose.
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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:

On Jul 15, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

[ ... ]
Hard drives provide near-online backup, but only a single full  
iteration.  You can do incrementals to DVD or CD-RW or tape, and  keep 
many iterations handy, which is far more reliable.


If you use dump/restore you can do iterative backups to a spare HD as  
well...


Sure.  But a single spare HD is a single point of failure.  Having one tape per 
week or per month going back 10 or 100 tapes gives much more redundancy


--
-Chuck

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cu terminal screen size - text not aligning properly

2005-07-15 Thread John Vaughan
I am trying to install headless over a serial console using cu on
another machine that I am connected to via SSH.

system to be installed - cu session - working FreeBSD system - ssh
session - local system (me)

My problem is that the text for the install is not aligned properly
making the options hard to read.  Does anyone know what size I should
set my terminal window to so the text appears correctly?  I am
installing using the FreeBSD black and white option if that matters
any.

Thanks for the help,
-John
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Re: DHCP assigned unregistered IP address

2005-07-15 Thread Hornet
On 7/15/05, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bob Hall wrote:
 
 
 However, note the When the Cable Modem is disconnected from the
 Internet... so the only reason it should be handing you the local IP is
 if it cannot talk back to the DHCP server it gets your real IP from.  If
 
 
 
 Yea, that's pretty obvious. It's also pretty undesirable. Apparently,
 Motorola decided the checkbox was confusing and removed it, replacing it
 with this automatic behavior. Blea.
 
 
 Learning from Microsoft ;-)
 
 If it happens again, you might want to talk to your provider to find out
 *why*.  Does this thing have any flashing lights on the front?
 
 
 
 There are LEDs, but they didn't indicate anything was wrong. There have
 been many reboots over the time I've been with this ISP, and this is the
 only time this happened. I'm not going to demand an explanation for a
 fluke.
 
 I just meant that it might indicate a fault somewhere in either your
 modem or (more likely) some of the hardware between it and the ISP.
 Somewhere I have a list of acceptable values for some of the (to me)
 impenetrable signal levels etc. which my 4100 can show me.  At least if
 I see one of those is bad, then I know it's not my fault.  If things
 don't return to normal in a while, then maybe it's worth contacting tech
 support or checking their status page (which I can only do because I
 still have a separate dial-up account for just such emergencies).
 
 Also if the 4100 can't reach the DHCP server, the green lights won't
 ever all come on, so it's pretty obvious when there is a fault.  Of
 course, that might be because the local DHCP server has been turned off ;-)
 
 A better question is why the tech I talked to told me that the
 unregistered IP address wasn't a problem. But she did tell me that she
 was new, and generally the techs can distinguish between their cloacal
 anatomy and a geophysical excavation.
 
 
 My experience of virtually every large organisation is that there are
 two types of techs.  The ones for whom their cloacal anatomy is
 indistinguishable from their articulatio cubiti, and the ones who
 actually know how to listen, diagnose a problem etc.  With the rise in
 call centres, the former are becoming more prevalent, and it gets harder
 to get your problems referred to the latter.  

When the person you talk
 to has a script which doesn't go beyond turn if off; leave it for 30
 seconds and turn it back on again, you are in trouble.
You must use comcast. :)

 
 --Alex
 
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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 15, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:


Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:


On Jul 15, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:


[ ... ]

Hard drives provide near-online backup, but only a single full   
iteration.  You can do incrementals to DVD or CD-RW or tape, and   
keep many iterations handy, which is far more reliable.


If you use dump/restore you can do iterative backups to a spare HD  
as  well...




Sure.  But a single spare HD is a single point of failure.  Having  
one tape per week or per month going back 10 or 100 tapes gives  
much more redundancy


Better yet -- using dump, backup to HD and then copy that dump file  
to tape or CD/DVD or another HD...


I use 2 HDs and alternate which one I dump to each week.

Chad



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gettext won't install

2005-07-15 Thread Paweł Madej
i try to install devel/gettext-0.14.5

configure and compilation goes ok but while install i got such an error:

install: .libs/libasprintf.so.0: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71
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Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread George Ruch
I'm working on a 5.4-REL test installation on my main desktop machine. 
Hardware specifics:

MSI MS-6378 MB
AMD Athalon 1800 @ 1536
256 MB memory
2 x Maxtor 30 GB drives
Zip 100 ATA
DVD-RW
This will be a learning installation.  I have some past experience with 
OS/2 Warp 3 and Redhat 5.1 (no, you don't get to guess my age) on much 
smaller drives.


Q1:  I have two drives, laid out as follows:
Drive 1
/ad0a WinXP, NTFS, 16.06GB, primary
/ad0e data, NTFS, 12.58GB, extended

Drive 2
/ad1a currently empty, 14.36GB, primary
  (installation target)
/ad1e /ad0 backup, NTFS, 14.27GB, extended

I'd like to use XP's NTLDR to manage the dual boot process.  I've seen 
the following trick for Linux ( www.redhat.com/advice/tips/dualboot.html):


- Boot into Linux, copy the first sector of the boot partition as follows:
dd if=/dev/hdb of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
- Move bootsect.lnx to WinXP root (C:\), and add the following line to 
boot.ini:

C:\bootsect.lnx=Linux

Does this approach work with FreeBSD?  Logic says it should, given the 
similarities, but when has logic applied consistently to computers?


Q2: Failing that, does anyone out there have any experience with 
PowerQuest's (now Symantec) BootMagic boot manager (p/o Partition Magic 
8.0) and FreeBSD?  The documentation indicated that it will recognize 
Linux partitions, but says nothing about FreeBSD.


Q3: Partitioning
  Yes, I know you've seen several million questions on partitioning 
schemes.  I've read up on it, and I'd like to get some feedback on this 
plan.  All slices would be p/o ad1a, which has approx. 14,704MB free.


/   128M
/usr8192M
/home   3312M
/var1024M
/tmp1024M
swap1024M  (4 x physical)

Thanks in advance,

| George Ruch
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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:

On Jul 15, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

[ ... ]
Sure.  But a single spare HD is a single point of failure.  Having  
one tape per week or per month going back 10 or 100 tapes gives  much 
more redundancy


Better yet -- using dump, backup to HD and then copy that dump file  to 
tape or CD/DVD or another HD...


I use 2 HDs and alternate which one I dump to each week.


Agreed.  Having an online backup location which then gets dumped to tape or 
some second place is excellent, since it makes restoring via rsync or whatever 
very easy.


As someone else suggested, you can also stick things like config files into 
version control (like CVS, subversion, etc), and then back that up via the 
mechanism above.


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Re: DHCP assigned unregistered IP address

2005-07-15 Thread Bob Hall
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:14:52PM +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
 Also if the 4100 can't reach the DHCP server, the green lights won't 
 ever all come on, so it's pretty obvious when there is a fault.  Of 
 course, that might be because the local DHCP server has been turned off ;-)

In this case, the green lights were on. It seems as though the failure
to contact the DHCP server was only momentary, but just long enough to
ensure that my gateway box was assigned an unregistered IP address by
the modem. The order of events was roughly
1) DHCP server off line
2) Modem fails to contact server
3) Modem assigns unregistered IP address to FBSD box.
4) DHCP server comes back on line
5) I check modem lights, which are all green, since the modem
   can now communicate with the server.
 
 was new, and generally the techs can distinguish between their cloacal
 anatomy and a geophysical excavation.
 
 two types of techs.  The ones for whom their cloacal anatomy is 
 indistinguishable from their articulatio cubiti, and the ones who 

Damn. Trumped by medical Latin. I hate it when that happens. :)
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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread David Kelly
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 01:27:41PM -0600, George Ruch wrote:
 
 Q2: Failing that, does anyone out there have any experience with 
 PowerQuest's (now Symantec) BootMagic boot manager (p/o Partition Magic 
 8.0) and FreeBSD?  The documentation indicated that it will recognize 
 Linux partitions, but says nothing about FreeBSD.

You haven't tried installing FreeBSD yet? I ask because the very simple
boot block FreeBSD installs has always worked well for me. Then again
the last Microsoft product I booted with it was either NT4 or Win98.

Its elegant in that it waits about 10 seconds then proceeds to boot what
ever selection you made the previous time. One selection is boot the
next disk where control is transfered to what ever boot manager is on
the next disk. FreeBSD can be on the 2nd drive and still bootable. The
boot process simply hops from one drive to the next.

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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread lars

George Ruch wrote:

Q1:  I have two drives, laid out as follows:
Drive 1
/ad0a  WinXP, NTFS, 16.06GB, primary
/ad0e data, NTFS, 12.58GB, extended

Drive 2
/ad1a currently empty, 14.36GB, primary
  (installation target)
/ad1e /ad0 backup, NTFS, 14.27GB, extended

I'd like to use XP's NTLDR to manage the dual boot process.  I've seen 
the following trick for Linux ( www.redhat.com/advice/tips/dualboot.html):


- Boot into Linux, copy the first sector of the boot partition as follows:
dd if=/dev/hdb of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
- Move bootsect.lnx to WinXP root (C:\), and add the following line to 
boot.ini:

C:\bootsect.lnx=Linux

Does this approach work with FreeBSD?  Logic says it should, given the 
similarities, but when has logic applied consistently to computers?

I can't say anything about it, never done it, check google.

Q2: Failing that, does anyone out there have any experience with 
PowerQuest's (now Symantec) BootMagic boot manager (p/o Partition Magic 
8.0) and FreeBSD?  The documentation indicated that it will recognize 
Linux partitions, but says nothing about FreeBSD.

Why not use FreeBSD's boot manager?
It's spartan and displays  for Windows but works without fault.
Otherwise gag.sourceforge.net is very recommendable and looks better too.


Q3: Partitioning
  Yes, I know you've seen several million questions on partitioning 
schemes.  I've read up on it, and I'd like to get some feedback on this 
plan.  All slices would be p/o ad1a, which has approx. 14,704MB free.


/128M
/usr8192M
/home3312M
/var1024M
/tmp1024M
swap1024M  (4 x physical)

That setup looks pretty alright imho.
I'd go for this here instead:
More for /usr,
less for swap,
that gives
/   same
/usrsame or more
/home   same
/varsame
swapRAM*2

lars.
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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 15, 2005, at 2:01 PM, lars wrote:


George Ruch wrote:


Q1:  I have two drives, laid out as follows:
Drive 1
/ad0a  WinXP, NTFS, 16.06GB, primary
/ad0e data, NTFS, 12.58GB, extended
Drive 2
/ad1a currently empty, 14.36GB, primary
  (installation target)
/ad1e /ad0 backup, NTFS, 14.27GB, extended
I'd like to use XP's NTLDR to manage the dual boot process.  I've  
seen the following trick for Linux ( www.redhat.com/advice/tips/ 
dualboot.html):
- Boot into Linux, copy the first sector of the boot partition as  
follows:

dd if=/dev/hdb of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
- Move bootsect.lnx to WinXP root (C:\), and add the following  
line to boot.ini:

C:\bootsect.lnx=Linux
Does this approach work with FreeBSD?  Logic says it should, given  
the similarities, but when has logic applied consistently to  
computers?



I can't say anything about it, never done it, check google.



I did something like that once with no problem.  Can't comment on the  
specifics since it was a while ago but it did work.


What happens in this case, I believe, is that the Windows Boot  
Manager then boots the FBSD boot manager.


Chad

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Re: PHP PCRE

2005-07-15 Thread Erik Nørgaard

Myron Turner wrote:
I just installed FreeBSD 5.4 with PHP 5.0.3 for the express purpose of 
testing out a web-based application.


I was wondering what the rationale is for excluding PCRE from the 
current php distribution.As I understand it, the PCRE extensions are 
included by default  in PHP 5.  This suggests that the FreeBSD  
organization opted not to include these.  A search of mailing lists 
shows that  people have been having problems because of this.


For me, the solution is not to install a rebuilt php on my test machine, 
because I have to have the assurance that my application will run on any 
FreeBSD system.


On FreeBSD you are given the option of installing a pure php with no 
extra bells or whistles. Then you can add the extensions you neeed using 
the php5-extensions metaport, which really just installs individual 
modules such as devel/php5-pcre.


And, AFIAK, installing extensions afterwards does not require that you 
rebuild php5.


I have had problems with this too - usually they amounted to forgetting 
about the extensions, because back then when I first used it, extensions 
was installed with the php base (I think this was with php 4.1?).


As for reasoning: For security reasons or performance it may be wise to 
exclude what you don't use. pcre is not the fastest thing AFAIK.


Now, I must add the disclaimer that I'm using php4

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Re: gettext won't install

2005-07-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Paweł Madej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i try to install devel/gettext-0.14.5
 
 configure and compilation goes ok but while install i got such an error:
 
 install: .libs/libasprintf.so.0: No such file or directory
 *** Error code 71

It builds fine for me on -STABLE, and installs that library.

What is the rest of your system?
See 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/index.html

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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread George Ruch
David Kelly wrote:

 You haven't tried installing FreeBSD yet? I ask because the very simple
 boot block FreeBSD installs has always worked well for me. Then again
 the last Microsoft product I booted with it was either NT4 or Win98.

I have, on both my smaller machine (K6-3/400, single 25GB drive)
and on the big machine I described.

On the little machine, it came up looking like a minimal LILO. It
would boot XP correctly, but came up with '??' for the XP
partition.

 Its elegant in that it waits about 10 seconds then proceeds to boot what
 ever selection you made the previous time. One selection is boot the
 next disk where control is transfered to what ever boot manager is on
 the next disk. FreeBSD can be on the 2nd drive and still bootable. The
 boot process simply hops from one drive to the next.


I never got to that point on the big machine.  After the first
trial install, it rebooted into XP - no boot manager prompt.  I'm
thinking boot manager installed to the MBR of the second drive,
which probably means I missed something in the partitioning or in
sysinstall itself.

As an alternative, I may just strip the little machine and set it
up as full FreeBSD.  That would give me time to get more
comfortable with it while I sort out the 2-disk dual boot.

Re BootMagic: It probably won't recognize any FreeBSD partition
type. There are no references to FreeBSD in the Symantec support
references, and PM started from the CD reported an error
108(IIRC) when the FreeBSD partition was present on the big
machine.  Apparently, it had trouble interpreting the partition
table with an type 165 partition entry.

- George Ruch



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Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS

2005-07-15 Thread Paul Mather
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:05 -0400 (EDT), Jacob A. Siehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Try running configure then make just like any other linux program
 and see
  if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is.  I
 understand
  Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port
 infrastructure?
  My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port
  infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've
 installed
  was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg
 files.
  They each provided their own installer (usually using the
 applescript
  langauge).
 
 The nearest OS X analogy to the ports system is fink:
 http://fink.sourceforge.net/

There is also DarwinPorts (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/) and the
NetBSD pkgsrc (http://www.pkgsrc.org/) system (which, IMHO, is more
ports-like than Fink) also supports MacOS X (although I'm not sure if
pkgsrc still has the requirement of a case-sensitive file system).

DarwinPorts, pkgsrc, and Fink can co-exist on the same system.  I use
mainly DarwinPorts on a MacOS X Server system I use, with Fink sometimes
to fill in the gaps when a port is missing from the DarwinPorts
collection.  Both DarwinPorts and Fink have an update mechanism.
DarwinPorts supports multiple views of a package, too, allowing
multiple versions to exist for those ports that require older/newer
versions to build or run properly.  If you're into GUIs, Fink has
FinkCommander to scratch that itch.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread George Ruch
lars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

George Ruch wrote:
 Q1:  I have two drives, laid out as follows:
 Drive 1
 /ad0a  WinXP, NTFS, 16.06GB, primary
 /ad0e data, NTFS, 12.58GB, extended
 
 Drive 2
 /ad1a currently empty, 14.36GB, primary
   (installation target)
 /ad1e /ad0 backup, NTFS, 14.27GB, extended
 
 I'd like to use XP's NTLDR to manage the dual boot process.  I've seen 
 the following trick for Linux ( www.redhat.com/advice/tips/dualboot.html):
 
 - Boot into Linux, copy the first sector of the boot partition as follows:
 dd if=/dev/hdb of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
 - Move bootsect.lnx to WinXP root (C:\), and add the following line to 
 boot.ini:
 C:\bootsect.lnx=Linux
 
 Does this approach work with FreeBSD?  Logic says it should, given the 
 similarities, but when has logic applied consistently to computers?

I can't say anything about it, never done it, check google.

I'll do that, and I may try something a bit simpler in the
meantime.  See my reply to David Kelley.

It's spartan and displays  for Windows but works without fault.
Otherwise gag.sourceforge.net is very recommendable and looks better too.

Thanks.  I'll look into that.

 Q3: Partitioning
 [...]  All slices would be p/o ad1a, which has approx. 14,704MB free.
 
 /128M
 /usr8192M
 /home3312M
 /var1024M
 /tmp1024M
 swap1024M  (4 x physical)
That setup looks pretty alright imho.
I'd go for this here instead:
More for /usr,
less for swap,
that gives
/  same
/usr   same or more
/home  same
/var   same
swap   RAM*2

In the meantime, I may strip the little machine (K6-3/400, 256MB
RAM, single 25 GB drive) and start with something a bit simpler
until I get more comfortable wit FreeBSD.  So, following your
model, expand /usr and /home proportionally and leave the rest as
is.

| George Ruch
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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread lars

Chuck Swiger wrote:

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:


On Jul 15, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:


[ ... ]

Sure.  But a single spare HD is a single point of failure.  Having  
one tape per week or per month going back 10 or 100 tapes gives  much 
more redundancy



Better yet -- using dump, backup to HD and then copy that dump file  
to tape or CD/DVD or another HD...


I use 2 HDs and alternate which one I dump to each week.



Agreed.  Having an online backup location which then gets dumped to tape 
or some second place is excellent, since it makes restoring via rsync or 
whatever very easy.


As someone else suggested, you can also stick things like config files 
into version control (like CVS, subversion, etc), and then back that up 
via the mechanism above.



How fitting, my HDD with FreeBSD on it just failed, RIP.
But appr. 2h ago I backed up all my files to my storage server ;-)
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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Quinn
George Ruch wrote:

--- George Ruch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm working on a 5.4-REL test installation on my main desktop machine. 
 Hardware specifics:
   MSI MS-6378 MB
   AMD Athalon 1800 @ 1536
   256 MB memory
   2 x Maxtor 30 GB drives
   Zip 100 ATA
   DVD-RW
 This will be a learning installation.  I have some past experience with 
 OS/2 Warp 3 and Redhat 5.1 (no, you don't get to guess my age) on much 
 smaller drives.
 
 Q1:  I have two drives, laid out as follows:
 Drive 1
 /ad0a   WinXP, NTFS, 16.06GB, primary
 /ad0e data, NTFS, 12.58GB, extended
 
 Drive 2
 /ad1a currently empty, 14.36GB, primary
(installation target)
 /ad1e /ad0 backup, NTFS, 14.27GB, extended
 
 I'd like to use XP's NTLDR to manage the dual boot process.  I've seen 
 the following trick for Linux ( www.redhat.com/advice/tips/dualboot.html):
 
 - Boot into Linux, copy the first sector of the boot partition as follows:
   dd if=/dev/hdb of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
 - Move bootsect.lnx to WinXP root (C:\), and add the following line to 
 boot.ini:
   C:\bootsect.lnx=Linux
 
 Does this approach work with FreeBSD?  Logic says it should, given the 
 similarities, but when has logic applied consistently to computers?
 
 Q2: Failing that, does anyone out there have any experience with 
 PowerQuest's (now Symantec) BootMagic boot manager (p/o Partition Magic 
 8.0) and FreeBSD?  The documentation indicated that it will recognize 
 Linux partitions, but says nothing about FreeBSD.
 
 Q3: Partitioning
Yes, I know you've seen several million questions on partitioning 
 schemes.  I've read up on it, and I'd like to get some feedback on this 
 plan.  All slices would be p/o ad1a, which has approx. 14,704MB free.
 
   /   128M
   /usr8192M
   /home   3312M
   /var1024M
   /tmp1024M
   swap1024M  (4 x physical)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 | George Ruch
 | Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?

Hi George

I'd suggest backing up your MBR before starting anything
This way, independent of the boot manager your choose, you can always 
(hopefully) get back to your
current working one
It's really easy, really small (512 bytes) and could save mega amounts of 
time/hair

I boot with FreeBSD or Linux media from CDROM/Floppy to accomplish an MBR backup
Media I've used include the FreeBSD fixit thingy, Knoppix, Linux installer 
CD's, RIP (Rescue is
Possible) 
http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/

Here's a way to backup it up to a Dos formatted floppy

FreeBSD
Use FreeBSD 4.11 Disk2 or FreeBSD 5.4 Disk 1

Boot the CD, choose fixit, and choose CDROM

Pop in the floppy and mount it
FreeBSD 4.11
#mount_msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
FreeBSD 5.4
#mount_msdosfs /dev/fd0 /mnt

Backup the MBR of the Primary ATA Master to floppy
#dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/mnt/my.mbr bs=512 count=1
#umount /mnt

Linux
#mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
#dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/my.mbr bs=512 count=1
#umount /mnt

Restoring the MBR is basically the reverse
mount the floppy under /mnt
#dd if=/mnt/my.mbr of=/dev/ad0 (or hda) bs=512 count=1
#umount /mnt


The RIP floppy has scripts for this sorta thing making it pretty easy
It would be really smart to experiment with a sacrificial lamb prior to your 
production machine

I hope this helps

Take care

Steve Quinn

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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread George Ruch
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:17:51 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

[much good stuff snipped]

The RIP floppy has scripts for this sorta thing making it pretty easy
It would be really smart to experiment with a sacrificial lamb prior to
your production machine.

Looks like that's the way I'm headed. (evil grin) Hello,
Junior...

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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

Stephen Hilton wrote:

Chuck Swiger wrote:

[ ... ]
Sure.  But a single spare HD is a single point of failure.  Having one 
tape per week or per month going back 10 or 100 tapes gives much more 
redundancy


But were the tapes all generated by the same tape-drive? if so it is
once again a potential single point of failure. The created tapes
may not be readable by any other drive due to mis-alignment etc...
if that tape drive fails, the data on the tapes is lost also.


It is true that tape alignment problems can make tapes unreadable, but the 
frequency of that sort of problem varies a lot by format: helical scan tapes 
such as DAT tend to have a lot more problems then linear formats like DLT or 
LTO/Ultrium.


It is also a lot more likely that a data recovery company can make something 
out of a backup tape written by a misaligned drive than what you usually get 
from a blown hard drive.  People design tapes, tape drives, and the on-media 
data format against the common sources of tape read errors, in part by using 
ECC prudently (again, the quality here can vary by format, and by the backup 
software being used).


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identifying filesystem blocks (was Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine)

2005-07-15 Thread Nick Barnes
At 2005-07-15 17:01:18+, Chuck Swiger writes:
 Nick Barnes wrote:
 [ ... ]
  I don't want to have to do all that ever again, after this iteration.
 
 You've had a learning experience, I see.  :-)

Yeah, and I've had them before, and this time enough is enough.

On a related subject, the last time I lost a disk, or maybe the time
before, I asked on one of these lists whether there is a tool which
will identify the files (or inodes, or other filesystem metadata)
which are affected by one or more bad blocks.  At the time I was told
that there is no such tool, and started to write my own.  Maybe this
time around I'll finish the tool and distribute it.

Semi-automated binary-chop use of dd tells me that the following
blocks in my filesystem are broken:

65255940, 65255941, 65255942, 65255943, 65255944, 65255954, 65255965,
65256256, 65257133, 65257134, 65257514, 66713152, 66713158, 66713164,
66713536, 66713537, 66714306, 66714308, 66715648, 66715650

but without a suitable tool this information is useless.

Incidentally, two weeks ago I recovered a broken filesystem on a 4.10
server machine by dd'ing the working sectors (i.e. all but 2) onto a
freshly newfs'ed partition.  The broken filesystem wouldn't fsck at
all: some metadata was lost to a bad sector and fsck borked out in
phase 2.  But after the dd's (i.e. with those bad sectors replaced
with metadata fresh from newfs), fsck told me that the recovered
filesystem was fine.  As it happens, the filesystem was the repository
for an SCM system (Perforce) with internal checksums: after recovery
we checked those out and they all passed.

One interesting aspect of that war story is that I got one of the dd
commands wrong the first time, and tried to fsck a filesystem which
was partly Just Plain Missing.  The whole system went down: network
connections dropped and completely unresponsive at console, including
ctrl-C, ctrl-T, alt-Fn, and ctrl-alt-del.  It seems to me that fsck
shouldn't be able to do that

Nick Barnes
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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Nick Barnes
At 2005-07-15 17:01:18+, Chuck Swiger writes:
 Nick Barnes wrote:
 [ ... ]
  I don't want to have to do all that ever again, after this iteration.
 
 You've had a learning experience, I see.  :-)

Here are my previous questions on the related subject, some 4 years
ago now:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=872461+0+archive/2001/freebsd-questions/20010617.freebsd-questions

Nick B
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Re: DHCP assigned unregistered IP address

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Hornet wrote:


On 7/15/05, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


When the person you talk
to has a script which doesn't go beyond turn if off; leave it for 30
seconds and turn it back on again, you are in trouble.
   


You must use comcast. :)

Actually, Blueyonder/Telewest.  The same madness exists both sides of 
the Atlantic :-(


--Alex


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install Apache1 and Apache2 on the same server

2005-07-15 Thread Ksenia Marasanova
Greetings,

I have FreeBSD box that runs Apache1 from ports. Now I'd like to
install Apache2 from ports (and run it on different IP), without
overwriting httpd binary of Apache1. What would be the correct,
port-friendly :) way to do it? (I also use portupgrade, it would be
nice if portupgrade will still be able to upgrade both ports)

Any tips or pointers to man pages are appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

lars wrote:


-/usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools
can help you monitor your HDDs


But if your disk is a hardware RAID of any kind, and you cannot see 
through the controller to individual disks, then you'll only be told 
about one of the disks, I would presume.  That's where a CLI comes in, 
but I think they are scarce for the low-end controllers you see on 
desktop systems.  Or just rebooting daily and hoping the RAID BIOS will 
report a SMART error in time.


Even given that, smartmontools should be on everyone's list of must 
have ports.



-RAID 0 doubles the chances of HDD failure and thereby data loss

Agreed.  But my presumption is that the actual chances of hardware 
failure are pretty small.  Out of all the disks I've been responsible 
for in some way over the years (certainly hundreds), the actual number 
of failures I can remember is about a handful, and at least two of those 
came with some warning.


Actually, I suspect a RAID 0 more than doubles the chance something bad 
happening.  A single bad disk may be just good enough to be recoverable 
in some way, whereas the same errors in a RAID 0 could be curtains.  I 
certainly wouldn't do 0 without a frequent, automatic back-up strategy 
on anything which wasn't truly disposable.



e.g. Mini-ITX boards are cheap and fast enough for this purpose.


Or the PC you just replaced which now has an ebay value of 
not-enough-to-be-worth-it... :-)


The real expense is usually time.  Especially for home-based machines, 
backups become a chore, or you're up until 2am and just can't be 
bothered turning on the tape drive or whatever.  And a disk just drive 
knows when it hasn't been backed up recently ;-)


--Alex

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Re: better disk reliability on a desktop machine

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Nick Barnes wrote:


Here are my previous questions on the related subject, some 4 years
ago now:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=872461+0+archive/2001/freebsd-questions/20010617.freebsd-questions
 


Shame no-one answered your badsect question.  Did you ever figure it out?

--Alex

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Re: IPFW+natd Cisco VPN tunnelling....

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Chuck Swiger wrote:

Is there any way to convince natd to re-read the natd.conf file short 
of killing and restarting the daemon entirely?  The manpage didn't say 
so, and kill -HUP terminates the process.


If there was, I would expect /etc/rc.d/natd to support a reload option, 
but I don't see one.  You could try it, but if not then I suggest


sh /etc/rc.d/natd restart

Can't help on VPN, I'm afraid.

--Alex


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Re: DHCP assigned unregistered IP address

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Bob Hall wrote:

two types of techs.  The ones for whom their cloacal anatomy is 
indistinguishable from their articulatio cubiti, and the ones who 
   



Damn. Trumped by medical Latin. I hate it when that happens. :)
 

Well, one has to rise to a challenge :-)  (And I'll admit cheating and 
using wordnet http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn)


--Alex

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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

George Ruch wrote:


On the little machine, it came up looking like a minimal LILO. It
would boot XP correctly, but came up with '??' for the XP
partition.

It says ?? but boots XP just fine.  If you care about the cosmetics then 
I posted a patch which makes it say DOS instead, a while ago, done out 
of curiosity more than caring.  I only *know* it works for non-serial 
consoles, in that I haven't compiled it with the relevant serial 
#defined so don't know that it's under 512 bytes.   It also incorporates 
a patch from elsewhere to turn off the beep.


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1506483+1512204+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-questions/20050612.freebsd-questions

--Alex

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Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15

2005-07-15 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote:


I assume there are no other messages obvious errors in /var/log/messages?

   


Nope, I have debug turned all the way up... And just out of the blue
on the 9th at 3am I see :

Jul  9 03:01:30 himinbjorg kernel: pid 49967 (mailwrapper), uid 0: exited on sig
nal 11 (core dumped)
 


SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
 

Sorry, I think I'm fresh out of ideas.  Since no-one else is chiming in, 
it might be worth trying a fresh message with a fresh subject and just 
try and summarise the problems.  Someone out there must have more 
experience of finding hardware faults than I do.  (I still think it must 
be hardware.  The intermittent faults in a variety of bits of software 
just scream that.  The combination of core dumps and the ld.so error are 
interesting and should be a clue, but I don't know how to interpret it).


Best,

--Alex

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Re: can't mount floppy

2005-07-15 Thread Björn König

Olga Zenkova wrote:


I can't mount floppy on FreeBSD 5.4. I run the usual
command:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt

and get /dev/fd0: No such file or directory

When the kernel loads I see:
fdc0: floppy drive controller port ... on acpi0 


What does it mean?


In case you the device node /dev/fd0 exists you'll find further 
information in /var/log/messages. If not then show /var/run/dmesg.boot 
completely.


Björn
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Re: Three questions...

2005-07-15 Thread George Ruch
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:18:31 +0100, you wrote:

George Ruch wrote:

On the little machine, it came up looking like a minimal LILO. It
would boot XP correctly, but came up with '??' for the XP
partition.

It says ?? but boots XP just fine.  If you care about the cosmetics then 
I posted a patch which makes it say DOS instead, a while ago, done out 
of curiosity more than caring. [...]

Thanks for the reference.  It told me, among other things, what
happened during the initial test install on the big machine.
It's not a high priority at the moment, though, since I'll be
sacrificing Junior to the cause.

Thanks,
| George Ruch
| Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?


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