How do I diagnose and fix a boot problem?

2005-09-02 Thread Frederick N. Brier
I had an old FreeBSD 4.8 server and wanted to upgrade it to 5.4.  So I 
backed it up to both DVD and to another 5.4 system.  The only change in 
the hardware was adding a Zonet ZEN3300E gigabit PCI adapter (Realtek 
RTL8169S-32).  It is an old dual 600 P3 with 1GB RAM and a 3Ware 7000-2 
controller with 2 160GB drives.  I wiped the system and started from 
scratch with a standard (everything) install.  I added the updated 
packages and got Samba, Apache2, the TWiki installed with all the shared 
files and twiki files restored.  The system was rebooted at least 5-6 
times to make sure everything started up properly, and it did great.  I 
was just tweaking the sshd settings so that I could run cygwin XFree86 
over ssh, and did a ps to get the pid of sshd, and ps came back with 
an error message.  I had never seen this before and so figured perhaps a 
reboot was in order.  So I did and ended up with this::

--
FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8

Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
Booting [kernel]...
  can't load 'kernel'
  can't load 'kernel.old'

Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
ok
--
So I booted using floppies and a CD (the SCSI CD is not bootable - old Adaptec controller) and loaded 
the Live CD (disk 1).  Going into Fixit mode, I mounted the first slice.  Everything was fine no damage. 
 The kernel was there with the same date and size as the version on the Live CD.  I read through the 
Handbook section 12.3.  None of the files had a recent timestamp.  I thought perhaps the MBR a file had 
been corrupted.  I tried the command disklabel -B twed0s1 which executed with no errors.  
When I tried the command fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 twed0  It failed saying it could not find 
/dev/twed0 or if the correct directory was /dev, then twedo could not be found.  Yet the device 
file was in /dev, the values looked reasonable, and df and other file system utilities were returning 
valid values.

I tried rebooting again and looked variable values.  Currdev and Loaddev are both 
disk1s1a which I am not sure is correct, but I get an error message if I try 
to change it to twed0s1a.

Not sure what to try next.  I don't know what the problem is or what caused the 
it.  Any help or hints as to how to diagnose the problem or fix this would be 
greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

Frederick N. Brier



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Re: and the winner is...

2005-09-02 Thread Simone Martelli

Mario Carugno ha scritto:
I there, i was trying freebsd for a while, and comparing it against 
debian/linux.
The winner was Debian by far... Freebsd could be stable, but it is not 
faster... and Debian is far much more 'usable'.
 Freebsd package installation is very laborious compared with Debian's apt 
system. I have to search in each CD, know dependences,...
 X configuration is hard too when the autodetected configuration doesn't 
works...

 I think fbsd is good, but needs some user facilities.


Maybe do you like the flame but this is really bad place for it.

Enjoy what you like.

Simone
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bsdlabel on slice vs on mirror

2005-09-02 Thread Norberto Meijome

Hi there,
I have a RAID1 with gmirror between ad6s1 and ad10s1:
NameStatus  Components
mirror/mirror_swap  COMPLETE  ad6s1
 ad10s1

If I run bsdlabel on ad6s1 I get the 'partition c ' error:
--
# bsdlabel ad6s1
# /dev/ad6s1:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a: 209643040  swap   
 c: 209643200unused0 0 # raw part, 
don't edit

bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit!
bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard 
system utilities

--

but if I do it on the mirror, it shows the *same* info, but no error:
# bsdlabel /dev/mirror/mirror_swap
# /dev/mirror/mirror_swap:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a: 209643040  swap   
 c: 209643200unused0 0 # raw part, 
don't edit


From fdisk
# fdisk -s ad6
/dev/ad6: 484521 cyl 16 hd 63 sec
PartStartSize Type Flags
  1:  6320964321 0xa5 0x00
  2:20964825   467426295 0xa5 0x00

# uname -rm
6.0-BETA3 amd64

I can see that it seems ad6s1c is actually 1 sector smaller than the 
whole slice (20964320 vs 20964321 ). Other than that, the system is 
working ok.

 1) how serious is the problem?
 2) Why doesn't it show the same error on the mirror? Is it because the 
mirror is actually 1 sec smaller than the slices that make the mirror?


I tried to fix it via:
bsdlabel -R /dev/ad6s1   partition_mirror_swap.txt

but I get:
# bsdlabel -R /dev/ad6s1   partition_mirror_swap.txt
bsdlabel: Geom not found

which doesn't make sense as
a) I have mirrors running
b) geom_mirror is built into the kernel

# cat partition_mirror_swap.txt
# /dev/mirror/mirror_swap:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a: 209643040swap  0 0  
 c: 209643210unused0 0 # raw part, 
don't edit


thanks in advance,
Beto
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Four (even five) problems/queries on my FreeBSD installation

2005-09-02 Thread lars.lindblad

Hi. I have installed 5.4/KDE on my Thinkpad 600E, and it
mostly works but there are a few things I need help with.

(Please note that I still consider myself being a newbie on
FreeBSD!) ;)

1. I installed KDM to make the computer a little more
userfriendly, but now I can't run things as su. Emacs
refuses to start for instance, and when I am trying to
adjust things in Login Manager (in KControl) it asks me for
the root password, I enter it, and then I bounce back. What
is the problem? I still can run emacs as lars, but not as
superuser. (I can su in a terminal window of course)

2. During my window years (those are goodbye now! ;) I
bought a TwinMos 256Mb USB-memory, and FreeBSD finds an
umass device when I put it in my Thinkpad, but how will I
mount it? Can it be done?

3. Since I installed KDM I got the Turn off
computer-option in KDE, but it only runs FreeBSD to a halt,
not to a complete power down - how will I chance that?

4. As su I can use tab to complete filenames, but not as
user lars. I guess it has to to with which shell I use, how
do I change shell? Or is it another way I can get the
possibility to use tab to complete filenames?

5. My girlfriend found the Klickety-game in KDE - anyone
else here having the same problem? Your computer being taken
by someone who wants to play the games so you cannot sit for
hours and hours and have fun tweaking the system? ;)

Hope someone can help me! Thanks in advance!

   / Lars
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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 08:07:26PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 People,
 
 I want to scan ~400 pp of an out-of-print and out-of-copyright 
 book (from 1913) and need to know what the best scanner is
 and if there has been substantial improvement in OCR 
 software in recent years.  This book has few footnotes 
 or different typefaces, so it should make things easier.
 
 Oh, an if there is something that plugs into DOS/DOZE 
 and just works, super.  I'lll use my W2K box.  (Hopefully,
 something that plugs into COM0 or COM1. USB okay too.)
 
 thanks for any clues; I've never used a scanner before!
 --yea, no kidding:-)
 
... just a postscript here to the list: my 
interest in the best scanner obviously applies to 
the Unix realm, too.  Just FWIW.

gary



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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 9/1/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 People,
 
 I want to scan ~400 pp of an out-of-print and out-of-copyright
 book (from 1913) and need to know what the best scanner is
 and if there has been substantial improvement in OCR
 software in recent years.  This book has few footnotes
 or different typefaces, so it should make things easier.
 
 Oh, an if there is something that plugs into DOS/DOZE
 and just works, super.  I'lll use my W2K box.  (Hopefully,
 something that plugs into COM0 or COM1. USB okay too.)
 

Any scanner will work when your scanning a 2 tone document! The only
thing that matters is the OCR software and their is only one game in
town, OmniPage Pro by scansoft.

BTW it's faster (and won't damage the book) to photograph the book and
then crop and covert to BW, white balance, contrast, etc in photoshop
or gimp etc., and then import the photos into the OCR software. The
OCR software should produce less errors too.

After all is done post the book on gutenberg, http://www.gutenberg.org/

oh, you should be able to fine some tips about scanning books at the
gutenberg site too.
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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Roger Merritt

At 08:07 PM 9/1/2005 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

People,

I want to scan ~400 pp of an out-of-print and out-of-copyright
book (from 1913) and need to know what the best scanner is
and if there has been substantial improvement in OCR
software in recent years.  This book has few footnotes
or different typefaces, so it should make things easier.

Oh, an if there is something that plugs into DOS/DOZE
and just works, super.  I'lll use my W2K box.  (Hopefully,
something that plugs into COM0 or COM1. USB okay too.)

thanks for any clues; I've never used a scanner before!
--yea, no kidding:-)


I happen to have some recent experience on a Windoze machine that may be 
useful. Of the several programs that Google found for me the one that met 
my needs best was Textbridge. The others put every paragraph into a 
separate text box, made correcting layout and formatting a nightmare. 
Textbridge (at least the current version) seems to do a good job as long as 
the print is reasonable clear. All the OCR programs I tried had problems 
putting pictures in the right place. I don't know what's available for 
FreeBSD, since I use my boxen for gateways, not even connected to printers. 
I should warn you, though, scanning isn't quick -- figure about two minutes 
per page (YMMV) plus any formatting fixup you have to do afterward. There 
are industrial-strength applications out there, but they cost.


Can't offer advice about hardware -- I've got an Epson flatbed, pretty 
inexpensive but works good.


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Re: Four (even five) problems/queries on my FreeBSD installation

2005-09-02 Thread Yuan Jue
On Friday 02 September 2005 15:45, lars.lindblad wrote:
 Hi. I have installed 5.4/KDE on my Thinkpad 600E, and it
 mostly works but there are a few things I need help with.

 (Please note that I still consider myself being a newbie on
 FreeBSD!) ;)

 1. I installed KDM to make the computer a little more
 userfriendly, but now I can't run things as su. Emacs
 refuses to start for instance, and when I am trying to
 adjust things in Login Manager (in KControl) it asks me for
 the root password, I enter it, and then I bounce back. What
 is the problem? I still can run emacs as lars, but not as
 superuser. (I can su in a terminal window of course)


maybe  kcheckpass don't have the right permission for users, if so, you can 
chmod u+s kcheckpass to get the su run again. Note, the stuff needs to be 
done as root; maybe you need to login as root to do it. ^_^

 2. During my window years (those are goodbye now! ;) I
 bought a TwinMos 256Mb USB-memory, and FreeBSD finds an
 umass device when I put it in my Thinkpad, but how will I
 mount it? Can it be done?


if you never configured the kernel, the USB device should work in FB5.4 
directly.
cd /dev and find how it is recognized by FB, say as da0 or da0s1 or something 
like this.
Then you can mount it like this:
mount_msdosfs /dev/da0(s1)  /mnt/usb
gook luck!

 3. Since I installed KDM I got the Turn off
 computer-option in KDE, but it only runs FreeBSD to a halt,
 not to a complete power down - how will I chance that?


anyone else know about this issue? maybe ACPI problem?

 4. As su I can use tab to complete filenames, but not as
 user lars. I guess it has to to with which shell I use, how
 do I change shell? Or is it another way I can get the
 possibility to use tab to complete filenames?


In default setting, root use csh, while general users use sh which doesn't 
support many useful features. But you can always change your shell using 
chsh.

 5. My girlfriend found the Klickety-game in KDE - anyone
 else here having the same problem? Your computer being taken
 by someone who wants to play the games so you cannot sit for
 hours and hours and have fun tweaking the system? ;)

 Hope someone can help me! Thanks in advance!


Sorry, never have that problem ^_^

Yuan Jue


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Re: Four (even five) problems/queries on my FreeBSD installation

2005-09-02 Thread Rein Kadastik
Yuan Jue wrote:

On Friday 02 September 2005 15:45, lars.lindblad wrote:
  

2. During my window years (those are goodbye now! ;) I
bought a TwinMos 256Mb USB-memory, and FreeBSD finds an
umass device when I put it in my Thinkpad, but how will I
mount it? Can it be done?




if you never configured the kernel, the USB device should work in FB5.4 
directly.
cd /dev and find how it is recognized by FB, say as da0 or da0s1 or something 
like this.
Then you can mount it like this:
mount_msdosfs /dev/da0(s1)  /mnt/usb
gook luck!
  

Better check the kernel log messages, it says, which device it attached
to the USB memory. Then you use that reported device name to mount it.

  

3. Since I installed KDM I got the Turn off
computer-option in KDE, but it only runs FreeBSD to a halt,
not to a complete power down - how will I chance that?




anyone else know about this issue? maybe ACPI problem?
  

Common problem in FreeBSD: You must have device apm0 line in kernel
(and exactly like this, nothing more, nothing less). Also
apm_enable=YES in rc.conf
There is a thread about the problem in bsdforums.org:

http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-886.html

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Re: Limiting closed port

2005-09-02 Thread Jerahmy Pocott


On 01/09/2005, at 7:20 PM, Dark Star wrote:



Hello all,

   Im on FreeBSD 4.8-R
  my logs since over 4 months always complaining from th follow:

  /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 243 to 200  
packets per second
  /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 222 to 200  
packets per second
  /kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 238 to 200  
packets per second


  I think its sometype of scan or attack.


A scan..

If someone tries to connect to a port that has no service attached to  
it, by default the

server will send a RST (reset) packet back (for TCP)..

Someone is trying to scan you very quickly, so generating a lot of  
RST packets (probably
scanning a very large range of ports) and the kernel is reducing the  
amount it will send

per second..

This isn't really a problem, you can also set it so that connections  
to closed ports will not
generate a RST response, but you would no longer be compliant with  
the RFCs regarding

TCP connections..

If you aren't running a firewall you should probably be running one  
anyway since it seems
your system is exposed to the outside world.. Personally I wouldn't  
be worried about the
above log, unless you are running services which allow connections  
from the outside and
which are possibly not very secure (public ftp, old versions of  
named, etc)..


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Setting default MTA during system installation

2005-09-02 Thread Gerard Seibert
Doing the installation of FreeBSD, there is an opportunity to choose an 
MTA. If I choose Postfix for instance, would that be installed as the 
default MTA or would the Sendmail program still be the default for the 
system, thereby requiring me to configure Postfix to operate with the 
system, and ultimately disabling Sendmail?



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Re: Setting default MTA during system installation

2005-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 06:44:08 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time)
Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doing the installation of FreeBSD, there is an opportunity to choose an 
 MTA. If I choose Postfix for instance, would that be installed as the 
 default MTA or would the Sendmail program still be the default for the 
 system, thereby requiring me to configure Postfix to operate with the 
 system, and ultimately disabling Sendmail?

if you install postfix from ports, it will ask you about this and give
hints about it too

see : /usr/ports/mail/postfix/pkg-message

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Perl setting locale failed

2005-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After having updated all freebsd  5.4 src  ports I've issued the 
portsdb -uU command but freebsd complains endlessly:
.. 
perl: 
warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LC_ALL = 
(unset),
LANG = it_IT.ISO_8859-15
are supported and 
installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard 
locale (C).
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
.

Yes, I recently set 
the Italian language and the complaint is only a warning but 
WHAT 
should I do to avoid that warning?

Ciao
Vittorio
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overlapping UID crisis

2005-09-02 Thread Matt Juszczak

hi all,

we had an overlapping uid crisis at work today.  I ended up writing a 
script to start at 3 and increment by 1, to change all user's UID's 
(except system accounts)


Then I wrote a script that did a recursive:

chown -R $username:users /home/$username
chown $username:users /var/mail/$username

Is there anything i am missing?

We've been up all night and I just need to make sure my tired mind isn't 
forgetting anything.


Thanks,

Matt
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Re: EDE

2005-09-02 Thread C. Michailidis
On Friday 02 September 2005 08:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what's got me a little confused is this: The most important feature
 is full FreeBSD support. Could someone clue me in as to what exactly
 that means?


I usually take this to mean that the development team will offer you help if 
you experience difficulties using the product/software/etc on that particular 
platform.  This doesn't mean there aren't any bugs or that every feature of the 
OS is leverged fully.  Quite simply the EDE developers 'care' about their 
software running on FreeBSD.  For example, I purchased a copy of Unreal 
Tournament 2004 and it was clearly stated in the requirments that it worked 
with linux... however, it also stated that there was no 'support' for linux.

If you are using EDE on FreeBSD and are experiencing difficulty you MAY contact 
the EDE developers about it, they are willing to support your endeavour.  
Support means just that... you have someone to help you out, no support... no 
help (although the thing may still actually work just fine).

Yes yes?  Reasonable?

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Torrent Program

2005-09-02 Thread Warren
Being as Azureus is broken in the ports ... is there another torrent program 
that is as good/equivelant to it available ?
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Re: overlapping UID crisis

2005-09-02 Thread Erik Norgaard



Matt Juszczak wrote:

hi all,

we had an overlapping uid crisis at work today.  I ended up writing a 
script to start at 3 and increment by 1, to change all user's UID's 
(except system accounts)


Then I wrote a script that did a recursive:

chown -R $username:users /home/$username
chown $username:users /var/mail/$username

Is there anything i am missing?

We've been up all night and I just need to make sure my tired mind isn't 
forgetting anything.


You did make a mapping OldUID-NewUID didn't you? Then you can use find 
to find all files with OldUID and change it to NewUID:


# find / -uname $OldUID | xargs chown $NewUID

Before you do that you'll probably like to view what files are going to 
be affected first.


What about the /etc/group? If all users have a group with GID=UID, then 
you have work to do there too - using the same trick as above.


Now, also, it's a mess if you get it wrong, so wrap it all arround some 
verbose script that prints all chown commands executed in a file with 
the OldUID.


Cheers, Erik

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Re: Torrent Program

2005-09-02 Thread Ruud Jansen
* Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Being as Azureus is broken in the ports ... is there another torrent program 
 that is as good/equivelant to it available ?

/usr/ports/net/py-bittorrent
Just the script that works without nonsence :P

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Keyboard problems during Install

2005-09-02 Thread Matthew Bach
I am having problems installing FreeBSD on my PC.  My USB keyboard will
not work.  I cannot select any of the menu choices in the install
program using the arrow keys. I have a Microsoft Natural Keyboard.  I am
installing FreeBSD 6.0.
 
Matt Bach
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Re: EDE

2005-09-02 Thread Mike Hernandez
On 9/2/05, C. Michailidis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes yes?  Reasonable?

Sounds good to me:)  I was thinking for a moment that maybe there was
some special feature that was OS dependent.

Mike
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Re: Torrent Program

2005-09-02 Thread Yuan Jue
On Friday 02 September 2005 20:35, Yuan Jue wrote:
 * Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Being as Azureus is broken in the ports ... is there another torrent
  program that is as good/equivelant to it available ?

 /usr/ports/net/py-bittorrent
 Just the script that works without nonsence :P

if you have installed wine, Bitspirit is also a good substitute.

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Best Regards.

Yuan Jue

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Re: duplicate file names in iso - extraction to dos partition for dos install

2005-09-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Robert Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 22:01, andyk wrote:
  Hi,
  I searched high and low, to answer my question, now I'm hoping you can help.
  
  I want to do an install of 5.4 from a dos partition.  as I was extracting 
  the files from the iso/archive to the dos partition, I got a lot of 
  seemingly duplicate names, as dos considers mail and Mail the same.
  
  I renamed all the duplicates with a 2 after them, but I wonder what 
  problems I will have when I try to do the install?
  
  I plan to buy the cd, but wanted to try out freeBSD before buying.
  
  I really appreciate any help - thanks,
  Andy
  ___
 
 Installing from a Dos partition is not an option. As you found out Fbsd
 and unix in general does recognise file names of different cases as
 being different files. 

Installing from a DOS partition certainly *is* an option, as described
in the Handbook.  Only the install distributions need to be present on
the DOS partition, not the whole bootable system from the CD.  
http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html#INSTALL-MSDOS

 One point though FreeBSD is that it is Free. Why not use the CD to
 produce a floppy disk set and use that to do a ftp install or you could
 copy the CD(s).

That will work.  The directory structure needed on the FTP server is
the same as that needed on a local MS-DOS partition.  An FTP install
from the official FTP servers has always been a good option.
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Why does mountcritremote run before nfsclient

2005-09-02 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H
Hi,

Running into a problem that mountcritremote runs before 
nfsclient does, and we run into problems that portmapper/statd/lockd
aren't. Is there something happening with our setup that shouldn't be?

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: anything like NetSquid for FreeBSD?

2005-09-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Matt Virus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there anything like this that runs on freebsd?
 
 http://netsquid.tamu.edu/faq.html

Anything like this?

Not sure how to answer that.  There are a *lot* of vaguely similar
things out that, including many in the ports.  Most of them seem to 
use snort.  And they are all different in some way or other, as well.  
You really need to look through the security (and net) categories of
ports, and draw your own opinions.
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[요청] ports: korean/scim-hangul

2005-09-02 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
요즘 일본어 공부중입니다. 
그래서 그놈 데스크탑 환경에 적합한 다국어 입력기를 찾다가.. scim 이
좋다는 소식을 접했습니다.
그리고 ports 에서 scim 을 설치했습니다.. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ pkg_info | grep scim
ja-scim-canna-0.1.1 SCIM IMEngine module using Canna
ja-scim-tables-0.5.1_3 SCIM table based Japanese input methods
ja-scim-uim-0.1.3_3 SCIM IMEngine module using UIM input method library
ko-scim-tables-0.5.1_3 SCIM table based Korean input methods
scim-1.4.0  Smart Common Input Method platform
scim-table-imengine-0.5.1_3 SCIM table based input method engine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uname -a
FreeBSD viola.izb.knu.ac.kr 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Tue Jun 21
09:32:40 KST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~

헌데 영어, 일본어는 잘 입력되는데.. 한글 입력에 문제가 좀 있더라구요..
받침이 있는 글자를 입력할때엔 Nabi 와 조금 다르게 작동합니다.
Ex) 아름다운 을 입력할때..
Nabi: 아름다운
Scim: 알ㅡ당ㅜㄴ

그래서 요청컨데.. 한국쪽 카테고리에 (korean/scim-hangul)도 넣어주셨으면
합니다..

꾸벅,,

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TIOCOUTQ ioctl for non-blocking socket

2005-09-02 Thread Steven Elkins
Hello everyone,

I have to port some non-blocking socket output code from Linux to
FreeBSD and I'm wondering how far I need to go to overcome a problem. 
On Linux this code puts the amount of data waiting in the socket's
transmit queue into 'remaining'.

   int remaining = 0;
   int rc = ioctl(fileDescriptor, TIOCOUTQ, remaining);

Testing rc on FreeBSD and printing errno, I see...

   ioctl: 45 Operation not supported

Is there another way to ask the question on FreeBSD?  Or should I be
changing the non-blocking socket output design?

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: HP NC6000 with FB 5.4

2005-09-02 Thread Yuan Jue
On Thursday 01 September 2005 22:15, Yuan Jue wrote:
 Jue Yuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hello, everyone
 
  I'm a newbie here and to FreeBSD. Just installed FB5.4 in my notebook
  less than two months. After a lot of stuff have been done, I now can use
  my laptop
  with FB5.4+KDE3.4.2 as smoothly as using Windows before, even more
  efficiently^_^
 
  But there is still some problems that I do want to fix in order to make
  my NB
  look more perfect. The question is: Can I use all of the buttons in my
  NB, say the Mute button, the Volume control buttons, and Wireless ON/OFF
  button. Although I can already control the volume of my soundcard and
  connect to wireless lan using the wireless NIC, I still want these
  buttons to work, just
  as in Windows.
 
  Does anyone know how to deal with this? Any suggestion will be
  appreciated!

 I don't know what you mean by NB, but maybe you could try using
 xev(1) to find out whether X sees events from those buttons?

Seems that xev cannot recognize events from the buttons; it only can see 
events from keyboard and mouse...
Any other ideas? 
Thanks.
-- 
Best Regards.

Yuan Jue

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Re: Building a New BSD 5.3 Server

2005-09-02 Thread Norberto Meijome

Dixit, Viraj wrote:

I have a question regarding the compatibility of BSD 5.3 Unix which I found 
very stable running the OS for a website. I am purchasing a new server and 
these are the qualities that the server has. Is BSD 5.3 will be able to work 
and be compatible with these options.

Enterprise-class uptime and manageability, proven Intel(r) Xeon(tm) performance 
and 2U density for a variety of rack deployments
All HP ProLiant DL380 G4 models include:  
*   Intel(r) Xeon(tm) processor with 800MHz FSB   
*   PC2-3200 registered ECC DDR2 SDRAM memory  
*   Integrated Smart Array 6i controller  
*   Dual port embedded PCI-X Gigabit NIC (NC7782)




hi there,
not *exactly* the same models, but we have 4 x DL360s with the same 
arrays and NICs and they work great. And they come with those nice iLO 
cards (no, haven't configured them under Fbsd, completelly firmware based).

B
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Re: Building a New BSD 5.3 Server

2005-09-02 Thread Derek Buttineau | Compu-SOLVE

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FreeBSD runs quite well on the HP DLxxx models, only annoying quirk is
that if you set the OS Type in the BIOS to Other (since there's no BSD
options) it won't display a lot of the features to the OS (such as SMP).

Derek


Dixit, Viraj wrote:
| I have a question regarding the compatibility of BSD 5.3 Unix which I
found very stable running the OS for a website. I am purchasing a new
server and these are the qualities that the server has. Is BSD 5.3 will
be able to work and be compatible with these options.
|
| Enterprise-class uptime and manageability, proven Intel(r) Xeon(tm)
performance and 2U density for a variety of rack deployments
| All HP ProLiant DL380 G4 models include:
| *   Intel(r) Xeon(tm) processor with 800MHz FSB
| *   PC2-3200 registered ECC DDR2 SDRAM memory
| *   Integrated Smart Array 6i controller
| *   Dual port embedded PCI-X Gigabit NIC (NC7782)
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Broken mirror - help understanding this...

2005-09-02 Thread Norberto Meijome

Hi there,
I have a 2 RAID 1 mirrors brake in front of my eyes, pretty much. they 
were based on ad4 and ad8 (SATA drives, the board has 2 SATA 
controllers). It seems ad4 either died or the primary controller did. I 
was writing several GBs of data to the 'mirror_data' device and...poof :-/


Can anyone tell from the info below whether it's the disk that died, or 
that controller? anyone seen anything like this before? (sorry, new to 
gmirror). Any tests that can be suggested (other than surface test, 
which I'll have to do after the weekend).


6.0-BETA3 (dual) amd64, SMP kernel, on a Tyan GT24b2891  
http://tyan.com/products/html/gt24b2891_spec.html ).


ad4: 238475MB WDC WD2500JS-00MHB0 02.01C03 at ata2-master SATA150

# gmirror status
 NameStatus  Components
 mirror/gm0s1  DEGRADED  ad8s1
mirror/mirror_data  DEGRADED  ad8s2

/var/log/messages :
-
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: subdisk4: detached
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: ad4: detached
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: unknown: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA48 retrying 
(1 retrGy ElOeMf_tMI)RROR :L BDAe=vic3e7 5m8i1r3r4o0r1_d

Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: ata: provider ad4s2 disconnected.
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=65536, length=2048)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=6144000, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=6160384, length=4096)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=64920735744, length=2048)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=178580144128, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=179928645632, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=180121288704, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=180313931776, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=180506574848, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=180699217920, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=180891860992, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181084504064, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181277147136, length=16384)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181315141632, length=32768)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181682601984, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181682733056, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181682864128, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181682995200, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181683126272, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181683257344, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181683388416, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181683519488, length=131072)]
Sep  3 00:43:29 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider 
ad4s1 disconnected.

Sep  3 00:43:30 cerberus kernel: unknown: timeout waiting to issue command
Sep  3 00:43:30 cerberus kernel: unknown: error issueing WRITE_DMA48 command
Sep  3 00:43:30 cerberus kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=6). 
ad4s2[WRITE(offset=181682470912, length=131072)]

-

thanks for any help!!
Beto
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Re: Torrent Program

2005-09-02 Thread Mark Kane

Warren wrote:
Being as Azureus is broken in the ports ... is there another torrent program 
that is as good/equivelant to it available ?


When I switched to my FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE amd64 machine, I didn't really 
want to go through the hassle of getting Java to work nicely. So I 
searched around the ports for another one, and /usr/ports/net/rtorrent 
works for me.


Yes, it is text based but it supports queues and you can screen it. It's 
also written in C++ so there isn't a need for Python.


-Mark
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POST Beep Codes on Intel motherboard ...

2005-09-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier


I'm trying to narrow a problem down with my new server, and want to 
confirm that this makes sense ...


I have a new Intel SE7520JR2 DDR2 motherboard ... when I power up the 
server, I get a 'BIOS Lan Console' message, then it pauses, I get 
'beep-pause-beepbeepbeep' and then it continues booting ...


I can get FreeBSD installed, and it boots fine ... but after 60 minutes, 
the machine hangs ...


From searching the web, it looks like the Beep Codes indicate a memory 
issue, but I just want to double check that I'm not mis-diagnosing the 
problem :(


Thanks ...


Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Yahoo!: yscrappy  ICQ: 7615664
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Re: Perl setting locale failed

2005-09-02 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] thusly...

 After having updated all freebsd  5.4 src  ports I've issued the
 portsdb -uU command but freebsd complains endlessly:
 .. 
 perl: 
 warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LC_ALL = 
 (unset),
 LANG = it_IT.ISO_8859-15
 are supported and 
 installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard 
 locale (C).
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 .
 
 Yes, I recently set the Italian language and the complaint is only
 a warning but WHAT should I do to avoid that warning?

RTFM locale(1).

More directly, if you run locale -a | grep it_IT, you will see
that there is no '_' after 'ISO'.


  - Parv

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RE: POST Beep Codes on Intel motherboard ...

2005-09-02 Thread Gayn Winters

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Marc G. Fournier
 Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:20 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: POST Beep Codes on Intel motherboard ...
 
 
 
 I'm trying to narrow a problem down with my new server, and want to 
 confirm that this makes sense ...
 
 I have a new Intel SE7520JR2 DDR2 motherboard ... when I power up the 
 server, I get a 'BIOS Lan Console' message, then it pauses, I get 
 'beep-pause-beepbeepbeep' and then it continues booting ...
 
 I can get FreeBSD installed, and it boots fine ... but after 
 60 minutes, 
 the machine hangs ...
 
 From searching the web, it looks like the Beep Codes 
 indicate a memory 
 issue, but I just want to double check that I'm not 
 mis-diagnosing the 
 problem :(
 
 Thanks ...
 
 
 Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services 
(http://www.hub.org)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Yahoo!: yscrappy  ICQ:
7615664

__Since Beep codes differ from BIOS vendor to BIOS vendor, you'll have
to look them up on the appropriate BIOS vendor's web site.  Usually if
you get a beep code from the BIOS, you won't boot at all; thus your
beeps might be from another source, e.g. firmware on a net or raid card.
Of course, then, you go to that vendor's web site.

-gayn


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Getting FreeBSD CD roms

2005-09-02 Thread Dennis Barneveld
L.S.

How can I get those CD'd. I understand it will now be version 5.xx
I live in The Netherlands. There is a deliverer in Germany, so I guess that is 
a good deliverer.

So what is needed. Obviously a way for me to pay for the CD's with the 
software.

After that of course those CD need to be sent to me. My adres is:

Ir. Ing. Dennis Philip Barneveld
Zuidermeent 30
1218 GW  Hilversum
The Netherlands

Yours sincerely,

Dennis

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Re: Getting FreeBSD CD roms

2005-09-02 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:43:33 +0200
Dennis Barneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 L.S.
 
 How can I get those CD'd.

http://www.freebsdmall.com

Daar bestel ik ook altijd.
I always order there myself ;-)

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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 03:21:03PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote:
 At 08:07 PM 9/1/2005 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 People,
 
 I want to scan ~400 pp of an out-of-print and out-of-copyright
 book (from 1913) and need to know what the best scanner is
 and if there has been substantial improvement in OCR
 software in recent years.  This book has few footnotes
 or different typefaces, so it should make things easier.
 
 Oh, an if there is something that plugs into DOS/DOZE
 and just works, super.  I'lll use my W2K box.  (Hopefully,
 something that plugs into COM0 or COM1. USB okay too.)
 
 thanks for any clues; I've never used a scanner before!
 --yea, no kidding:-)
 
 I happen to have some recent experience on a Windoze machine that may be 
 useful. Of the several programs that Google found for me the one that met 
 my needs best was Textbridge. The others put every paragraph into a 
 separate text box, made correcting layout and formatting a nightmare. 
 Textbridge (at least the current version) seems to do a good job as long as 
 the print is reasonable clear. All the OCR programs I tried had problems 
 putting pictures in the right place. I don't know what's available for 
 FreeBSD, since I use my boxen for gateways, not even connected to printers. 
 I should warn you, though, scanning isn't quick -- figure about two minutes 
 per page (YMMV) plus any formatting fixup you have to do afterward. There 
 are industrial-strength applications out there, but they cost.
 
 Can't offer advice about hardware -- I've got an Epson flatbed, pretty 
 inexpensive but works good.

Doesn't sound very encouraging... :(

-gary

 
 -- 
 Roger
 
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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2005-09-02 Thread Greg Lehey

How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===

Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
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If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

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Contents:

I:Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
   security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2005-09-02 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?  Please
let me know: I'm constantly updating it.

Greg
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Re: Getting FreeBSD CD roms

2005-09-02 Thread Charles Swiger

On Sep 2, 2005, at 12:43 PM, Dennis Barneveld wrote:

How can I get those CD'd. I understand it will now be version 5.xx
I live in The Netherlands. There is a deliverer in Germany, so I  
guess that is

a good deliverer.

So what is needed. Obviously a way for me to pay for the CD's with the
software.

After that of course those CD need to be sent to me. My adres is:


While there is nothing wrong with purchasing FreeBSD from a vendor  
who sells CD-ROMs, please be aware that you can download and burn the  
FreeBSD .iso images yourself for free (well, you have to supply the  
CD blank and the bandwidth):


http://www.freebsd.org/where.html
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/

The people on this mailing list are here to answer questions about  
FreeBSD; we don't necessarily try to sell you stuff.  :-)


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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 03:01:12AM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 On 9/1/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  People,
  
  I want to scan ~400 pp of an out-of-print and out-of-copyright
  book (from 1913) and need to know what the best scanner is
  and if there has been substantial improvement in OCR
  software in recent years.  This book has few footnotes
  or different typefaces, so it should make things easier.
  
  Oh, an if there is something that plugs into DOS/DOZE
  and just works, super.  I'lll use my W2K box.  (Hopefully,
  something that plugs into COM0 or COM1. USB okay too.)
  
 
 Any scanner will work when your scanning a 2 tone document! The only
 thing that matters is the OCR software and their is only one game in
 town, OmniPage Pro by scansoft.

Well, the book I want to scan is from 1913:: just text.
Does this scanner work with FreeBSD? or only Windows?

 
 BTW it's faster (and won't damage the book) to photograph the book and
 then crop and covert to BW, white balance, contrast, etc in photoshop
 or gimp etc., and then import the photos into the OCR software. The
 OCR software should produce less errors too.

Okay, can do; thanks.

 
 After all is done post the book on gutenberg, http://www.gutenberg.org/
 
 oh, you should be able to fine some tips about scanning books at the
 gutenberg site too.


Yep; that's my idea.  I've volunteered for PG, just never
at the scanning level.

gary

 

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FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread hal

For FreeBSD 5.4 what is the:
default window manager?
developer recommended window manager?
easiest to install?

I am not trying to start a religious war here.
I am currently installing KDE from source and it
is taking forever.

#cd /usr/ports/x11/KDE3
# make

Some of the packages needed cannot be found by the
make file.  Google is great but some of the packages are
really hard to find.

hal 
  
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Re: FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread Mike Hernandez
I don't think there is a default. But I can tell you that if you
want something small, try fluxbox-devel from ports, or one of the
other lightweight wm's available there.

Mike
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Re: FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread pete wright
On 9/2/05, hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 For FreeBSD 5.4 what is the:
 default window manager?


FreeBSD does not neccessarially install X windows by default, and hence does 
not have a default window manager like say RedHat which has developed thier 
own cross of gnome and kde. When you install x.org http://x.org I belive 
it will install twm as a default WM.

developer recommended window manager?
 easiest to install?


I would try using packages to install window managers while checking things 
out. You really do not gain that much by installiing things like this from 
ports performance wise (that is unless you are using aggressive compile time 
optimizations or passing non-standard variables to configure), once you find 
what WM you find most usable you can always remove the packages and install 
your windowmanger of choice from ports.


-p



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Re: FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:19:09 -0600
hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For FreeBSD 5.4 what is the:
  default window manager?

if you don't install any wm or D.E. then there's probably only the
ancient twm

 I am currently installing KDE from source and it
 is taking forever.
 
 #cd /usr/ports/x11/KDE3
 # make

you have the choice for kde-lite btw
(/usr/ports/x11/kde-lite)

nitpick
KDE, Gnome and xfce4 are Desktop Environments,
they use a wm but they are not wm's itselves
/nitpick

what kind of wm or D.E. do you want ?
one of the most simplistic and light-weight ones is wm2
(see /usr/ports/x11-wm/wm2) takes less than 1 minute to compile afair

if you want a desktop-environment, xfce4 is interesting (lightweight),
but if you're coming from a MS-windows environment you might like KDE
better

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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:46:27AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 08:07:26PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  People,
  
  I want to scan ~400 pp of an out-of-print and out-of-copyright 
  book (from 1913) and need to know what the best scanner is

Any scanner that works with SANE (http://www.sane-project.org/) scanner
support framework should do. For supported hardware see:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html 

Epson seems to have the most supported scanners. I've got an Epson
Perfection 1650, which works fine.

  and if there has been substantial improvement in OCR 
  software in recent years.  This book has few footnotes 
  or different typefaces, so it should make things easier.

There are several free OCR programs. I've used gocr
(http://jocr.sourceforge.net/ and no, that's not a typo) and ocrad
(http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html)

Ocrad works ok, but you'll definitely have to correct errors, depending
on the quality of the pictures/scans. 

HTH,

Roland
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Re: Torrent program

2005-09-02 Thread Daniel Gonzalez
 
 Being as Azureus is broken in the ports ... is there another torrent 
 program
 that is as good/equivelant to it available ?


I'm running 5.4RC2 and also had problems with Azureus. The only program I 
got to work successfully is Qtorrent. It's located in ports under net and/or 
python. It uses Qt widgets. It doesn't look anywhere near as nice or work as 
well as Azureus but it gets the job done. I'm still looking for something as 
good as Azureus also


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Re: FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:19:09 -0600
hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For FreeBSD 5.4 what is the:
  default window manager?
  developer recommended window manager?
  easiest to install?
 
 I am not trying to start a religious war here.
 I am currently installing KDE from source and it
 is taking forever.
 
 #cd /usr/ports/x11/KDE3
 # make
 
 Some of the packages needed cannot be found by the
 make file.  Google is great but some of the packages are
 really hard to find.
 
 hal 

Is there a reason you're compiling KDE from source?  KDE is included on
the installation CD's.  Using pkg_add, you can also install binary
packages (and their dependencies) for releases and stable branches from
the ftp sites.  For example, to get KDE for the i386 architecture, 5-
STABLE branch, root would execute:

pkg_add
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/All/kde-3.4.2.tbz

(Beware wordwrap in emails.)

Regards,

Andrew Gould
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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005, Gary Kline wrote:
...
   Well, the book I want to scan is from 1913:: just text.
   Does this scanner work with FreeBSD? or only Windows?

As somebody else suggested, you may well be better off ``scanning'' books
with a digital camera than with a scanner.  It's often difficult to get a
book to lay flat enough on a scanner bed to get good scans.

I've been planning on getting a photographic copy table that holds the
camera at a fixed distance above its bed.  I think it would also work best
to have a flat glass or plastic sheet that can hold the page flat while
it's been photographed, with something to keep the opposite page out of the
camera's way.

I have to admit that I do all my scanning and OCR on an OS X system, only
marginally related to FreeBSD.  I use an older HP Scanjet with automatic
document feeder (ADF), and the HP software will scan straight to PDF
documents.  The Readiris OCS software can then OCR the PDF file making it
fairly easy to deal with multiple pages.

At one point we developed a perl::Tk program that worked with Vividata's
scanning and OCR software to scan and OCR large documents from high-end
Ricoh scanners with ADF.

Bill
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Boot Device Question

2005-09-02 Thread Timothy Radigan
Hi all,

Just got done installing FreeBSD 5.4 on a Compaq DL380.  The issue I am
having is that when the server reboots, it tries device ad(0,a) and fails.
This is because the root partition is on ad(1,a).

How do I tell FreeBSD to use ad(1,a) instead of ad(0,a)?

Tim

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USRobotics Sportster MessagePlus X2 PnP modem

2005-09-02 Thread 897344
Hi Roland.
 I bought USRobotics Sportster MessagePlus X2 PnP modem. Does FreeBSD 
support it? How can i setup it? I can work only with kde in FreeBSD.
 Sincerely,
Elchin

 On 8/27/05, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 01:44:00PM +0500, 897344 wrote:
 
  Does FreeBSD support Conexant Softv92 Data Fax Modem?
  HOW can i setup modem driver?
 
 No. It is a software modem which needs a driver. No such driver has been
 written for FreeBSD, although a company called Linuxant has written a
 Linux driver. See http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ This dirver is for
 Linux only, and only gives you 14.4Kbps in the free version.
 
 Buy a proper hardware modem, preferably one that connects to a serial
 port.
 
 Roland
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Re: Boot Device Question

2005-09-02 Thread Greg Barniskis

Timothy Radigan wrote:

Hi all,

Just got done installing FreeBSD 5.4 on a Compaq DL380.  The issue I am
having is that when the server reboots, it tries device ad(0,a) and fails.
This is because the root partition is on ad(1,a).

How do I tell FreeBSD to use ad(1,a) instead of ad(0,a)?


Put a boot manager/menu on ad0 (where the BIOS can easily find it 
when looking for bootables) that will let you instruct the machine 
that you'd really rather boot from ad1.


The boot manager provided with FreeBSD should do, but you might also 
choose something else (GAG, GRUB, etc.). I usually take the FreeBSD 
boot mgr. for stable servers and GAG http://gag.sourceforge.net/ 
for personal machines (where I tend to deinstall and reinstall 
different versions of things often). I've found GRUB to be awfully 
painful if the partition where its menu config is held gets broken 
or deinstalled.


See section 2.5.3 of the handbook
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html

Although that page describes the FreeBSD install procedure, you can 
use sysinstall to install just the boot manager without reinstalling 
the whole works.


You might also be able to trick your BIOS into booting from ad1 
directly, but (a) I've never tried that and (b) heard it's not 
really recommended because of unpredictable results.



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sed not working

2005-09-02 Thread Rein Kadastik

Hi

I have a problem with sed on one of my systems.

Lets take the following command:

sed -e '/^\([a-z_][a-z_]*\) /s//\1 gen_/'

On all other systems the input would be transformed:
int something() - int gen_something()

On the broken system, the transformation is not done:
int something() - int something()

The broken system used to be 4.6-STABLE but I managed to upgrade it to 
4.11-RELEASE-p11, hoping that the update procedure will fix the sed, but 
apparently not. Imagine the make buildworld without working sed :) 
Anyway I generated the files on other working system so I managed to get 
through the buildworld part. Installkernel and installworld did not used 
sed so no problems there.


Does anybody have some ideas, what would be the reason? I tested the sed 
command also on 4.8-RELEASE and 4.10-STABLE where it works nicely. Even 
copied the sed over from working systems but no luck.


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Re: sed not working

2005-09-02 Thread Rein Kadastik


Rein Kadastik wrote:


Hi

I have a problem with sed on one of my systems.

Lets take the following command:

sed -e '/^\([a-z_][a-z_]*\) /s//\1 gen_/'

On all other systems the input would be transformed:
int something() - int gen_something()

On the broken system, the transformation is not done:
int something() - int something()

The broken system used to be 4.6-STABLE but I managed to upgrade it to 
4.11-RELEASE-p11, hoping that the update procedure will fix the sed, 
but apparently not. Imagine the make buildworld without working sed :) 
Anyway I generated the files on other working system so I managed to 
get through the buildworld part. Installkernel and installworld did 
not used sed so no problems there.


Does anybody have some ideas, what would be the reason? I tested the 
sed command also on 4.8-RELEASE and 4.10-STABLE where it works nicely. 
Even copied the sed over from working systems but no luck.


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Well let me make the problem description a bit more precise as I found 
some pattern:


the following works:
a b() - a gen_b()

but this does not:
int b() - int b()

Very strange that if I write the specific first token, the 
transformation is not done.


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Re: Four (even five) problems/queries on my FreeBSD installation

2005-09-02 Thread Chris

lars.lindblad wrote:

Hi. I have installed 5.4/KDE on my Thinkpad 600E, and it
mostly works but there are a few things I need help with.


Do you know the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list?
http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/


4. As su I can use tab to complete filenames, but not as
user lars. I guess it has to to with which shell I use, how
do I change shell? Or is it another way I can get the
possibility to use tab to complete filenames?


To find out which shell

lars$ echo $SHELL

If it is csh open .cshrc in lars home directory and put 'set autolist' 
just below

# An interactive shell -- set some stuff up

If it is not csh and you would like it to be you can use chpass to 
change the shell for user lars.


Chris
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Re: Four (even five) problems/queries on my FreeBSD installation

2005-09-02 Thread Aaron Peterson
 1. I installed KDM to make the computer a little more
 userfriendly, but now I can't run things as su. Emacs
 refuses to start for instance, and when I am trying to
 adjust things in Login Manager (in KControl) it asks me for
 the root password, I enter it, and then I bounce back. What
 is the problem? I still can run emacs as lars, but not as
 superuser. (I can su in a terminal window of course)

It is likely that the permissions for your X server deny new windows
to be opened except by the user who is running X.  So if the problem
you are describing is that you start X/KDE as a normal user, then open
a shell window and su to root and try to run Emacs as root, it likely
will not work.  You should however be able to run Emacs fine as the
same user you started X/KDE with.  You can try something like xhost
+ if you are in a fairly secure environment, or look at the man page
for xhost to find other options.  I don't know why KControl would
act that way, but I bet it is unrelated to your problems with Emacs.
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chrooting SSH users into their home directories

2005-09-02 Thread Brian Kaczynski
I was wondering how you could lock a user into their home with chroot 
when using SSH, similar to what the /etc/ftpchroot file does for FTP 
users. The ssh server is sshd.

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Re: FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread Chris

hal wrote:

For FreeBSD 5.4 what is the:
default window manager?
developer recommended window manager?
easiest to install?



x-11wm/icewm is cool. It's lightweight, seems stable, and looks very 
attractive (imho). It's also quite easy for windoze people to relate to 
(not sure if that is a recommendation or a fault :P). 
games/xdesktopwaves is nice with it.


Chris
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Re: chrooting SSH users into their home directories

2005-09-02 Thread Danny Howard
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:50:17PM -0400, Brian Kaczynski wrote:
 I was wondering how you could lock a user into their home with chroot 
 when using SSH, similar to what the /etc/ftpchroot file does for FTP 
 users. The ssh server is sshd.

Brian,

Check out: rssh

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Re: USRobotics Sportster MessagePlus X2 PnP modem

2005-09-02 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 12:32:48AM +0500, 897344 wrote:
 Hi Roland.
  I bought USRobotics Sportster MessagePlus X2 PnP modem. Does FreeBSD 
 support it? 

If it is an external modem that connects ro a serial port, it will
probably work. To find a modem's specifications on the Us Robotics site,
you'll need the model number.

 How can i setup it? 

Read §21.2 from the FreeBSD Handbook if you want to connect using PPP,
or §21.7 if your provider is still using SLIP.

 I can work only with kde in FreeBSD.

That doesn't matter. Modem functionality does not depend on the X Window
System or desktop environment.

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Cant't load kernel at the beginning of the installation process

2005-09-02 Thread Kuz
Im trying to install FreeBSD5.4 (from cd)
At the beginning of the installion i get the following message (after 
'FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1'):

'can't load `kernel`'

'Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.

After that pc hang up and does not ract on key pressings (only 
Ctrl+Alt+Del).

Also after last string are shown some stars, and unknown symbols.

Thak you.
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Re: chrooting SSH users into their home directories

2005-09-02 Thread Ed Stover
On Fri, September 2, 2005 2:50 pm, Brian Kaczynski wrote:
 I was wondering how you could lock a user into their home with chroot
 when using SSH, similar to what the /etc/ftpchroot file does for FTP
 users. The ssh server is sshd.
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off the top of my head use a restricted bash shell


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Re: sed not working

2005-09-02 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Rein Kadastik wrote:



Rein Kadastik wrote:


Hi

I have a problem with sed on one of my systems.

Lets take the following command:

sed -e '/^\([a-z_][a-z_]*\) /s//\1 gen_/'

On all other systems the input would be transformed:
int something() - int gen_something()

On the broken system, the transformation is not done:
int something() - int something()

The broken system used to be 4.6-STABLE but I managed to upgrade it 
to 4.11-RELEASE-p11, hoping that the update procedure will fix the 
sed, but apparently not. Imagine the make buildworld without working 
sed :) Anyway I generated the files on other working system so I 
managed to get through the buildworld part. Installkernel and 
installworld did not used sed so no problems there.


Does anybody have some ideas, what would be the reason? I tested the 
sed command also on 4.8-RELEASE and 4.10-STABLE where it works 
nicely. Even copied the sed over from working systems but no luck.


You've probably tried this, but what does which sed show on the broken 
system?  It should show /usr/bin/sed and if it doesn't, there's your 
problem :-)


--Alex

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network tools

2005-09-02 Thread Chris

Hi

I share broadband with a couple of other people. One of them uses 
limewire p2p software. When limewire is not running browsing feels fast 
and ftp on my freebsd box says it's downloading at 115 to 120 kB/s. Even 
when I have an ftp download going browsing doesn't seem very much 
affected. I assume from this that my usage won't affect the other people 
very much.


When limewire is running, even though it is throttled, ftp downloads run 
at half speed or less and my experience of browsing is that it is sluggish.


Today I had a download running at about 60kB/s and he said his (XP 
based) limewire was showing 25kB/s download and 5kB/s upload. When he 
turned off limewire my download speed went back to 120k.


Why don't the numbers support the experience? We have 1Mb/s download and 
128K upload (telewest cable). In theory even between us we weren't using 
all the bandwidth.


If I put a FreeBSD NAT/router box between the cable modem and the LAN 
what console based tools should I put on it to examine what's happening?


I would very much appreciate any help as this is becoming a bit of an 
issue here.


fwiw FreeBSD box.13dog.org 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun Aug 
21 17:46:54 BST 2005.


Thanks

Chris
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Re: Torrent Program

2005-09-02 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 22:30 +1000, Warren wrote:
 Being as Azureus is broken in the ports ... is there another torrent program 
 that is as good/equivelant to it available ?

I have no problems at all with Azureus 2.3.0.4 or 2.3.0.5_B22 running on
FreeBSD 5.4-stable using Java 1.4.

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Re: network tools

2005-09-02 Thread Kurt Buff
Chris wrote:
 Hi

snip

 If I put a FreeBSD NAT/router box between the cable modem and the LAN
 what console based tools should I put on it to examine what's happening?
 
 I would very much appreciate any help as this is becoming a bit of an
 issue here.
 
 fwiw FreeBSD box.13dog.org 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun Aug
 21 17:46:54 BST 2005.

If you must have a console app, you might want to try ngrep, but I'm not
terribly familiar with it.

I really recommend bringing your box up to 5-Stable, cvsup your ports
tree, and install ntop-3.1_1.

It has its own web server - doesn't depend on Apache - and you'll find
lots of information there, including graphs for total bandwidth used
over the last hour with 5 minute resolution, top 3 talkers for the same
period, same for last 24 hours with 1/2 hour resolution, and lots more.
Well worth the investment of time.

Kurt
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Re: network tools

2005-09-02 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 12:01:56AM +0100, Chris wrote:

[...]
 Today I had a download running at about 60kB/s and he said his (XP 
 based) limewire was showing 25kB/s download and 5kB/s upload. When he 
 turned off limewire my download speed went back to 120k.
 
 Why don't the numbers support the experience? We have 1Mb/s download and 
 128K upload (telewest cable). In theory even between us we weren't using 
 all the bandwidth.

You're getting pretty close to maximum possible speed there on your
connection. A 1Mbit/s connection is about 128KByte/s, which would
explain your ftp download speedometer reading. Allowing for TCP
overhead, you're getting pretty good throughput.

I'm unsure where you extra bandwidth goes when limewire is running.
Why don't you set up a caching name-server on your internal network
and see whether that helps.

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Custom Build

2005-09-02 Thread Jack Barnett

Hello all,

How this is the correct list to post this to, if not, please point me to a
more apporiate list.

What I want to do is make a custom automated build for FreeBSD.  Basically,
create a build, burn it to CD-ROM, go stick it into a server and it
automatically configures to the correct hardware, auto sets up the file
system (1 hard drive per server) and then reboots.  When it comes back up, I
have a full functionaly customized FreeBSD install.

The only interaction that should happen during the install, is putting in
the hostname, select static or dynamic ip and then [for non-FreeBSD app]
select to save to local or network drive.  I'm good with perl/bash, etc, so
I know how to create a script to automate the install for our application.

I need to do this on a lot of servers, so doing a manual install would take
weeks.  Each server has 1 hard drive, all the data is stored on a very
robust file server that gets backed up, if the hard drive fails, we just
replace, rebuild and contiune where we left off.  During the install, it
should just partion off 512 for swap, then use rest of disk for root
directory.   Each disk may be a differant size, but they will all be more
then 2 gigs.

The build I want to create would be a mini-FreeBSD, just the kernal, some
basic programs and 1 non-FreeBSD application.  The only port that would be
open is for SSHD and all servers would sit behind a firewall in there own
seperate subnet (firewall only routes http requests to upload data and
incoming ssh connections).

We're currently using a very old custom Linux build, it's less then 10 megs
total.  The problem we are having with this, is that it doesn't support all
the newer hardware we use (the build is about 4-5 years old) and FreeBSD is
our standard operating envoriment (as far as servers goes), the admins
here are more famlair with FreeBSD so it makes sense to switch to  FreeBSD
since we have to update the build anyways (the guy that made the build isn't
here any more and the rest of us are FreeBSD fan-boys :P )   All the other
FreeBSD servers that aren't in the cluster/grid are manually installed.

Could someone point me in the right direction or to some documentation or
other resources?

Regards,
Jack

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FreeBSD php{4,5} w/ LDAP + SSL/TLS ldap_start_tls()

2005-09-02 Thread Brian A. Seklecki


All:

Firstly, sorry if this is the wrong list.  There are thousands of forums 
and PHP5 related MLs, but nothing FBSD specific.


Second, I wouldn't post if this wasn't happening on two completely 
different FBSD boxes.


For whatever reason, the php4 and php5 from FreeBSD ports refuses to 
properly configure SSL/TLS support for the LDAP module.


This breaks the TLS/SSL functionality in net/phpldapadmin and 
sysutils/ldap-account-manager (CC'ing maintainers)


I've got two current i386/RELENG_5_3 boxes.  Both with Apache 
apache-2.0.54_2 and openldap-client-2.2.27.


The ldap client binaries are linked to SSL fine and can talk both ldaps:// 
and Start_TLS over ldap://.  That's out of the question.


One with php4-4.4.0, one with php5-5.0.3_2 (see below).  Both have the 
LDAP and SSL php extension modules installed:


$ egrep -i ldap|ssl /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini
extension=openssl.so
extension=ldap.so

The php4 box's ldap module is linked to OpenSSL:

# ldd /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/ldap.so
/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/ldap.so:
libldap-2.2.so.7 = /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.2.so.7 (0x28174000)
liblber-2.2.so.7 = /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.2.so.7 (0x281a7000)
libcrypto.so.3 = /lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x281b4000)
libssl.so.3 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x282c8000)

The php5 box is as well:

$ ldd /usr/local/lib/php/20041030/ldap.so
/usr/local/lib/php/20041030/ldap.so:
libldap-2.2.so.7 = /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.2.so.7 (0x28173000)
liblber-2.2.so.7 = /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.2.so.7 (0x281a6000)
libcrypto.so.3 = /lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x281b3000)
libssl.so.3 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x282c7000)


The problem is that ldap_start_tls() is an unregistered/invalid function.


When i run the functions.php at 
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/php-command-line-2


ldap_start_tls() isn't listed on either machine (see below).  The only 
reference to the problem I've been able to find is a PR:


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=72275

but this only relates to PHP4.  I don't know why *GRRR*, but this PR 
was closed without a fix ever being commited or any remarks!  Anyway, I 
tried the proposed solution on the PHP4 machine.  I removed the OpenSSL 
shared extension, export WITH_OPENSSL=true, recompiled php4 CLI/MOD with 
SSL static.  Removed the SSL module from extensions.ini.  Same problem.


The only possible localized problem I can see is my my predecessor placed:

PHP_EXT_INC=openssl

in php.conf.  I've tried rebuilding with and without that to no avail.

Anyway, I'm going to start looking into this tonight.  Any thoughts would 
be appreciated.  I'll open a PR when I track down the problem.


TIA,

~BAS

# pkg_info |grep -i php
libmcrypt-2.5.7_1   Multi-cipher cryptographic library (used in PHP)
pear-XML_RPC-1.4.0  PHP implementation of the XML-RPC protocol
php4-4.4.0  PHP Scripting Language (Apache Module and CLI)
php4-ctype-4.4.0The ctype shared extension for php
php4-dba-4.4.0  The dba shared extension for php
php4-extensions-1.0 A meta-port to install PHP extensions
php4-gettext-4.4.0  The gettext shared extension for php
php4-ldap-4.4.0 The ldap shared extension for php
php4-mcrypt-4.4.0   The mcrypt shared extension for php
php4-mysql-4.4.0The mysql shared extension for php
php4-openssl-4.4.0  The openssl shared extension for php
php4-overload-4.4.0 The overload shared extension for php
php4-pcre-4.4.0 The pcre shared extension for php
php4-pear-4.4.0 PEAR framework for PHP
php4-pgsql-4.4.0The pgsql shared extension for php
php4-posix-4.4.0The posix shared extension for php
php4-session-4.4.0  The session shared extension for php
php4-tokenizer-4.4.0 The tokenizer shared extension for php
php4-xml-4.4.0  The xml shared extension for php
php4-zlib-4.4.0 The zlib shared extension for php
phpldapadmin-0.9.7.a6,1 A set of PHP-scripts to administer LDAP servers


$ pkg_info |grep -i php5
php5-5.0.4_1PHP Scripting Language (Apache Module and CLI)
php5-bz2-5.0.3_2The bz2 shared extension for php
php5-calendar-5.0.3_2 The calendar shared extension for php
php5-ctype-5.0.3_2  The ctype shared extension for php
php5-curl-5.0.4_2   The curl shared extension for php
php5-dom-5.0.3_2The dom shared extension for php
php5-exif-5.0.3_2   The exif shared extension for php
php5-extensions-1.0 A meta-port to install PHP extensions
php5-ftp-5.0.3_2The ftp shared extension for php
php5-gd-5.0.3_2 The gd shared extension for php
php5-gettext-5.0.3_2 The gettext shared extension for php
php5-iconv-5.0.3_2  The iconv shared extension for php
php5-imap-5.0.3_2   The imap shared extension for php
php5-ldap-5.0.4_2   The ldap shared extension for php
php5-mcrypt-5.0.3_2 The mcrypt shared extension for php
php5-mhash-5.0.3_2  The mhash shared extension for php
php5-mysql-5.0.3_2  The mysql shared extension for php
php5-odbc-5.0.4_2   The odbc shared extension for php
php5-openssl-5.0.3_2 The 

Re: FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 09/02/05 11:19 AM, hal sat at the `puter and typed:
 For FreeBSD 5.4 what is the:
  default window manager?
  developer recommended window manager?
  easiest to install?
 
 I am not trying to start a religious war here.
 I am currently installing KDE from source and it
 is taking forever.
 
 #cd /usr/ports/x11/KDE3
 # make
 
 Some of the packages needed cannot be found by the
 make file.  Google is great but some of the packages are
 really hard to find.

None of the window managers are difficult to install on FreeBSD, but
some may be tricky to configure.  Maybe most.

If you want a window manager, not a desktop, you don't want KDE.
That's a desktop/WM.  My personal favorite for more than 6 years now
is FVWM2.  Flexible, fast, supports all kinds of cool things, like
fancy key and mouse bindings, Xinerama, etc.

Still, lot's of people like KDE, enlightenment(?), IceWM, the Gnome
Desktop, etc.

My advice is try a few different ones before deciding.  See how
intiutive or simple you find configuration (I like FVWM2 because it's
simple text file configuration, and manpages are quite thorough).
Just remember, you will probably get a basic configuration set up the
way you want and not really touch it for a long time.  Then one day,
you'll look at it to tweak some behavior.  My config has only changed
a little over the last 6 years, and only one or two small tweaks at a
time.  Lots of times, I have to go back to reread documentation or
commentary in the config to figure out what it's doing.

So, two things that are important: ease of configuration and
flexibility.  You want those small tweaks to be painless, but you also
want the WM to be able to do what you want it to.  So far, I've not
found anything I wanted that FVWM2 couldn't do.  Documentation (man
pages) are well written enough that tweaks are pretty easy to manage
now too.

BTW, I'm fairly mouse averse, so I have my config set up to allow me
to keep my hands on the keys until I go into a browser, unless I
decide to exercise the mouse for some reason.  This includes switching
pages on the desktop, switching desktops, switching apps, etc..  If I
go to the mouse, it all works pretty much the same.  Key bindings
allow me to use the fancy buttons on my fancy keyboard to control
audio and video playback, volume - including mute, and window layering
(move to top, bottom, etc.) among many other things.

Good luck.
Lou
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Re: FreeBSD vs. window managers

2005-09-02 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Sep 3, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Louis LeBlanc wrote:


None of the window managers are difficult to install on FreeBSD, but
some may be tricky to configure.  Maybe most.

If you want a window manager, not a desktop, you don't want KDE.
That's a desktop/WM.  My personal favorite for more than 6 years now
is FVWM2.  Flexible, fast, supports all kinds of cool things, like
fancy key and mouse bindings, Xinerama, etc.

Still, lot's of people like KDE, enlightenment(?), IceWM, the Gnome
Desktop, etc.

My advice is try a few different ones before deciding.  See how
intiutive or simple you find configuration (I like FVWM2 because it's
simple text file configuration, and manpages are quite thorough).
Just remember, you will probably get a basic configuration set up the
way you want and not really touch it for a long time.  Then one day,
you'll look at it to tweak some behavior.  My config has only changed
a little over the last 6 years, and only one or two small tweaks at a
time.  Lots of times, I have to go back to reread documentation or
commentary in the config to figure out what it's doing.

So, two things that are important: ease of configuration and
flexibility.  You want those small tweaks to be painless, but you also
want the WM to be able to do what you want it to.  So far, I've not
found anything I wanted that FVWM2 couldn't do.  Documentation (man
pages) are well written enough that tweaks are pretty easy to manage
now too.

BTW, I'm fairly mouse averse, so I have my config set up to allow me
to keep my hands on the keys until I go into a browser, unless I
decide to exercise the mouse for some reason.  This includes switching
pages on the desktop, switching desktops, switching apps, etc..  If I
go to the mouse, it all works pretty much the same.  Key bindings
allow me to use the fancy buttons on my fancy keyboard to control
audio and video playback, volume - including mute, and window layering
(move to top, bottom, etc.) among many other things.

Good luck.
Lou
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All depends on your taste, like Louis and others have been saying.
If you want a complete desktop system (has a variety of tools,  
etc), try straight Gnome or KDE. As you've discovered though,  
compiling them takes quite a while as they are quite large.
If you just want a WM (a means to view X programs), there are a  
variety of different choices: TWM (prepackaged, ugly), FVWM2, IceWM,  
Enlightenment, Fluxbox, XFCE4.2, and quite a few others exist for  
your X use. No one can really say which is best, I think, as it all  
depends on your choice and preference in terms of interfacing with X  
and programs, as well as how much resources you want to use, etc.
There are also lighter versions of the KDE and-I think it's in  
the ports tree-Gnome meta builds which come with a lot less programs  
if you wish to only install needed and certain components to your  
system.

-Garrett
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Re: best OCR scanner??

2005-09-02 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 9/2/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 03:01:12AM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
  On 9/1/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   People,
  
   I want to scan ~400 pp of an out-of-print and out-of-copyright
   book (from 1913) and need to know what the best scanner is
   and if there has been substantial improvement in OCR
   software in recent years.  This book has few footnotes
   or different typefaces, so it should make things easier.
  
   Oh, an if there is something that plugs into DOS/DOZE
   and just works, super.  I'lll use my W2K box.  (Hopefully,
   something that plugs into COM0 or COM1. USB okay too.)
  
 
  Any scanner will work when your scanning a 2 tone document! The only
  thing that matters is the OCR software and their is only one game in
  town, OmniPage Pro by scansoft.
 
 Well, the book I want to scan is from 1913:: just text.
 Does this scanner work with FreeBSD? or only Windows?

The OCR software? It works on windows and Mac OS-X. The software isn't
cheap though, the current full version, 15, retails for $500. You may
be able to find a demo version , so you can try before you buy, if you
look in the right places.

 
 
  BTW it's faster (and won't damage the book) to photograph the book and
  then crop and covert to BW, white balance, contrast, etc in photoshop
  or gimp etc., and then import the photos into the OCR software. The
  OCR software should produce less errors too.
 
 Okay, can do; thanks.

Have you ever seen a spy (movies) use a scanner to copy top secret
documents? :-)

I would just make a jig out of wood to hold the digital camera and a
flat bottem to hold the book. It would be best if you had a 35mm AF
SLR camera with like a 20 - 50mm macro len, but any camera should
work. If you have an SLR camera but no macro lens you can try flipping
your lens around.

 
 
  After all is done post the book on gutenberg, http://www.gutenberg.org/
 
  oh, you should be able to fine some tips about scanning books at the
  gutenberg site too.
 
 
 Yep; that's my idea.  I've volunteered for PG, just never
 at the scanning level.
 

Cool.
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Re: Can't see second CPU in FreeBSD 5.4-p6

2005-09-02 Thread joseph kacmarcik

 Hyperbollocks is disabled by default.

 See /usr/src/UPDATING entry for 20050513:

  Intel Hyper-Threading is now disabled by default due to a
  security issue, but can be re-enabled by setting the
  machdep.hyperthreading_allowed tunable in /boot/loader.conf.

ah, thanks, that works. simple fixes make me happy. (:

joe
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Automount USB disk in FreeBSD with KDE?

2005-09-02 Thread Yuan Jue
Hello all.

As a frequently usb disk user, I really want to make things easier and more 
comfortable for me to mount the usb disk whenever I need to use it. After 
doing some stuff, now I can mount it as a general user (not root) and use 
only one instruction like mount /mnt/usb; and umount it using 
umount /mnt/usb.

But I still want more convenient^_^ I wish it can work like Windows, say when 
I plug the usb disk, system autodectect it and mount it and either show an 
icon in system tray or show it on desktop; when I finish the job, I can just 
click the icon and select remove safely and the disk is auto unmounted.
That is all I want. 

I am using FreeBSD5.4 + KDE3.4.2. It seems that linux user can do this 
smoothly, but it has some stuff to do with the linux kernel, right? So i 
can't just use linux's solution.

Any ideas? I appreciate any kind of suggestions. Thanks!
-- 
Best Regards.

Yuan Jue

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