FreeBSD Boot Problem on Multiple HDDs

2006-06-10 Thread Sean M.
I just did my first ever bit of hardware hacking--salvaging a 6GB HDD
from a useless computer and installing it as a slave--and went and put
FreeBSD on it and a 3151MB partition on the master drive, which already
had Windows 2000 Professional SP1. Here is how I chopped up the disks:

ad0s1: FAT32 W2K (I have since converted to NTFS)
ad0s2: /, swap, /tmp, /etc, and /var
ad1s1: /usr

The problem is that I can't start FreeBSD. When I get to the boot
loader, I see:

F1 DOS
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk 1

Pressing  starts the typical hardware listing, then I see:

Manual root filesystem specification
...
mountroot>

And the crux of the problem is that I can't type anything because the
keyboard is frozen! What can I do here?

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Just an idea..

2006-06-10 Thread Sergio Lenzi
Hello...

I was thinking  well it was 2 months ago...

FreeBSD I think is one of the most amazing opearting system
ever coded...   Stable, fast... etc... etc...

The interfaces (Xwindow, with Kde, Gnome) have reached a very
good level of usage, stable..

There are several problems still??? Sure there are... Now we  at 
thinking in introduce FreeBSD running for desktops (using gnome 2.14,
2.15)

We are not talking about dozens   but about thousands/month   so this
will produce enough money to invest in the development of the 
operating system and the "fix"  of bugs in the FreeBSD + gnome...

We are thinking in hiring people in internet and "pay  (ebay...)"  some
$$   (good money)
for fix bugs in the FreeBSD + gnome..   The fixes will have GPL,  and
will improve
the quality of FreeBSD... I know that is not too much money but about
5000 US$  a month
is a good target

Please I want to hear from you all about .


Thanks in advance
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Re: FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, Sergio Lenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> If you looking for a first time BSD desktop (KDE) then try PC-BSD. and
> If you can't get that to run (PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD) give SuSE
> 10.1 a go.
>
>

Good  option I tried... fast easy... the version is still 5.X ... but is
good...
it is KDE  based




PC-BSD 1.1 is based on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. I think your thinking of
the DesktopBSD project... PC-BSD also has PBI installers packages, as
well as access to all of FreeBSD's ports and packages collection.

http://www.pcbsd.org/index.php?id=41
http://www.pcbsd.org/?p=learnpbi


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Re: multiple versions of development ports

2006-06-10 Thread michael johnson

On 6/11/06, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello,
I've got a 6.1 box that i'm trying to install some software on for
development. The software needs autoconf, automake, autoheader, etc. which
has been installed in multiple versions autoconf213, 253, 259, the same
for
automake etc. I created symlinks from the say autoconf259 to autoconf so
it
would be found by the configure process, but was wondering if there was a
better way, such as some option to add to make.conf so that all ports
utilize a specific version of autoconf or automake as the case may be?
Thanks.



check out ports/devel/configgen , it handles version numbers auto and works
most of the time.

Michael

Dave.


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Re: Bridge, networking, wireless cards, and ypbind.... (*sigh*

2006-06-10 Thread Wes Santee
Paul Pathiakis wrote:
> On Saturday 10 June 2006 01:00, you wrote:
>> Paul Pathiakis wrote:
> Seems that once I rebooted, both interfaces came up in promiscuous mode, so 
> that's a no go now.  I still believe it to be a frag/UDP/RPC issue.
> 
> Wes do you or anyone else have any further insight?
> 

Well, I don't run NIS, so I'm not sure I'll be much more help.  I
imagine that by default ypbind is broadcasting to find a server (ayup,
just checked the manpage for it).  Are you seeing those broadcasts come
across the bridge (via tcpdump)?  If not, does the -m switch to ypbind
help at all?

If none of that helps, someone with more NIS experience will probably
need to step in to help.

Cheers,
-Wes






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multiple versions of development ports

2006-06-10 Thread Dave

Hello,
   I've got a 6.1 box that i'm trying to install some software on for 
development. The software needs autoconf, automake, autoheader, etc. which 
has been installed in multiple versions autoconf213, 253, 259, the same for 
automake etc. I created symlinks from the say autoconf259 to autoconf so it 
would be found by the configure process, but was wondering if there was a 
better way, such as some option to add to make.conf so that all ports 
utilize a specific version of autoconf or automake as the case may be?

Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread Sergio Lenzi


> If you looking for a first time BSD desktop (KDE) then try PC-BSD. and
> If you can't get that to run (PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD) give SuSE
> 10.1 a go.
> 
> 

Good  option I tried... fast easy... the version is still 5.X ... but is
good...
it is KDE  based



On the HP  series,  due to a hardware problem in the keyboard,  it locks
just ast you 
load the kernel... 

solution: Boot with a patched keyboard kernel (the one that does not
test the hardware...)
google points..  

Again I recomend the 6.1  kernel... and  gnome.. 2.14 or 2.15   is
ligher than kde, and
easy for the end user   2.15 with HAL implementation is amazing

We notice here that users (those who just want to use the computer) 
does better with gnome (less options, less thing to confitgure)

They just want to read email, use office, som multemedia... internet...
and 
a groupware package linked to the evolution ...  in my case, the
open-xchange software


Lenzi

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Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?

2006-06-10 Thread Parv
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...
>
> I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare directories
> (recursively) showing what files are different,etc. meld (
> textproc/meld ) can do this to some extent, showing missing
> files,etc, but not showing what files are different withoug having
> to open each file and do a diff.

People mentioned diff & rsync, among other things.  Nobody mentioned
one named unison, which is similar & different to workings of rsync.


  - Parv

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Re: Bridge, networking, wireless cards, and ypbind.... (*sigh*

2006-06-10 Thread Paul Pathiakis
On Saturday 10 June 2006 01:00, you wrote:
> Paul Pathiakis wrote:
> > my rc.conf has:
> >
> > ifconfig_ath0="inet 192.168.1.24 netmask 0xff00 ssid my_ap mode 11g
> > mediaopt adhoc"
> > defautrouter="192.168.1.12"
> > nis_client_enable="YES"
> >
> > ifconfig -a shows:
> >
> > ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> > inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe94:75c3%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> > ether 00:13:46:94:75:c3
> > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g 
> > status: associated
> > ssid my_ap channel 3 bssid 02:13:46:94:75:c5
> > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 36 protmode CTS burst bintval
> > 100
> >
> > I assume that since the bssid shows the MAC address of AP, it is bound.
>
> Why isn't the ath0 card in promisc mode?  I thought it pretty much has
> to be in order for the bridge to work (both NICs in my bridge stay in
> promisc mode).
>
> I'm not sure if you're using "device if_bridge", or "options BRIDGE",
> but if it's the former, and you're running traffic through pf, take note
> of the warning in the if_bridge man page:
>
> The bridge may not forward fragments that have been reassembled by a
> packet filter.  In pf(4) fragment reassembly can be disabled in the
> scrub option.
>
> That's just my guesses for places to look based on the info you described.
>
> Cheers,
> -Wes

Thanks, Wes.

Sorry, but nothing more to report.

I am using if_bridge as my rc.conf shows I clone the interface and create the 
bridge.  This autoloads the if_bridge.ko as shown:

1   12 0xc040 534520   kernel
 21 0xc0935000 121e4geom_mirror.ko
 31 0xc0948000 10958if_ath.ko
 43 0xc0959000 26b60ath_hal.ko
 52 0xc098 40ac ath_rate.ko
 61 0xc0985000 58554acpi.ko
 71 0xc3567000 8000 if_bridge.ko
 81 0xc3661000 4000 logo_saver.ko

Pretty much I copied this from the ath man page:

   ifconfig ath0 inet up ssid my_ap media DS/11Mbps mediaopt hostap
   sysctl net.inet.ip.check_interface=0
   ifconfig bridge0 create
   ifconfig bridge0 addm ath0 addm fxp0
 
Seems that once I rebooted, both interfaces came up in promiscuous mode, so 
that's a no go now.  I still believe it to be a frag/UDP/RPC issue.

Wes do you or anyone else have any further insight?

Thank you,

Paul Pathiakis
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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Beech Rintoul wrote:


Maybe it can be a FAQ.   How do they get there?

jerry



I'd ask that question on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. I've never 
submitted anything to any of the docs, so I have no clue what their procedure 
is.


Beech



Probably something like this:

1.  Chat it up on the doc@ list (FDP list, whatever)...

2.  Gain a little positive feedback.

3.  Write up Jerry's FAQ answer as a patch to the current
one in the /usr/doc/ tree.

4.  Submit a PR with patch attached.

That's an overview of how it *might* happen.  You may
have to add in 2a] read the FDP primer, learn Docbook/
SGML syntax, etc. and 3a] talk over your patch with a
mentor/committer to see if they think it's ready before
you submit the PR; especially if you don't tolerate criticism
well.  OTOH, they might just jump for joy and even volunteer
to convert plain text to SGML for ya ... you can't tell for
certain, though they're a pretty positive group (in spite
of the yacking that gets thrown their way about every little
piece of writing about FreeBSD on the web)

Just my $0.02,

Kevin Kinsey

PS> and yes, I appreciated the overview that Jerry gave,
also.

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Re: Playstation emulator

2006-06-10 Thread Mark Kane
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006, at 03:15:31 +, NgD Vulto wrote:
> -bash-2.05b$ whereis epsxe
> epsxe: /usr/X11R6/bin/epsxe
> -bash-2.05b$ epsxe
> -bash-2.05b$
> -bash-2.05b$ /usr/X11R6/bin/epsxe
> -bash-2.05b$ ps -aux |grep epsxe
> userxx 11143  0.0  0.2  1512   888  p6  S+3:01PM   0:00.00 grep
> epsxe -bash-2.05b$
> 
> 
> I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong since I see no interface, it
> just returns nothing and quit automatically.
> 
> I have no playstation graphic bios downloaded, but I think it should
> at least give me an interface right?
> 
> I do have my original ps1 cds backuped as ISO inside my hd and so I'm
> not with the cd inside the driver...since I intend to run my ISO.
> 
> The question is what should I do?
> 
> Even if the problem would be that I have no graphic bios downloaded I
> wouldn't know where to store the bios files.
> 
> I've tried to search on google but I got no useful results to me,
> most of them were talking to linux users and there seems to work ok
> with no extra setup.

Hi. I had the same problem until doing this from pkg-message: 

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Playstation emulator

2006-06-10 Thread NgD Vulto

-bash-2.05b$ whereis epsxe
epsxe: /usr/X11R6/bin/epsxe
-bash-2.05b$ epsxe
-bash-2.05b$
-bash-2.05b$ /usr/X11R6/bin/epsxe
-bash-2.05b$ ps -aux |grep epsxe
userxx 11143  0.0  0.2  1512   888  p6  S+3:01PM   0:00.00 grep epsxe
-bash-2.05b$


I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong since I see no interface, it just
returns nothing and quit automatically.

I have no playstation graphic bios downloaded, but I think it should at
least give me an interface right?

I do have my original ps1 cds backuped as ISO inside my hd and so I'm not
with the cd inside the driver...since I intend to run my ISO.

The question is what should I do?

Even if the problem would be that I have no graphic bios downloaded I
wouldn't know where to store the bios files.

I've tried to search on google but I got no useful results to me, most of
them were talking to linux users and there seems to work ok with no extra
setup.
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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Saturday 10 June 2006 18:44, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >  much excised ---
> >
> > > Anyway, this all works just fine.  The MBR and initial boot record in
> > > the boot sector of each slice (or primary partition if you must degrade
> > > to MS terminology) have just enough standardization that the FreeBSD
> > > MBR or most any of the other more fancy ones, can initiate the boot for
> > > any of the OS-en commonly available to run on these machines.   Since
> > > the OS specific stuff really comes after it gets in to the slice boot
> > > record code in the boot sector, then generally any of them can boot any
> > > of them. The exception is MS MBRs.  I have heard that some more recent
> > > ones play better, but any I have had so far will not boot any slice
> > > except one for a MS OS.   I don't know what they screw up, but find it
> > > not surprisin=
> >
> > g.
> >
> > > So, there is the tome.
> > > All newbies, careful what you ask.  Someone may answer thusly with more
> > > than you every wanted to know.
> > >
> > > jerry
> >
> > Maybe this ought to be included in the handbook. I've seen this question
> > or one like it 100's of times on these lists. That was the best answer
> > I've seen.
> > Just my $.02
>
> Thanks for the positive comment.
> It glosses over stuff a little and isn't precisely correct in all detail,
> but I think it generally is correct and represents the way things work
> for all practical matters.
>
> Maybe it can be a FAQ.   How do they get there?
>
> jerry
>
> > Beech

I'd ask that question on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. I've never 
submitted anything to any of the docs, so I have no clue what their procedure 
is.

Beech
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Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/10/06, dgmm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know this is a long shot but my GF want's know if it's possible to get into
> an MSN groups chat room using FreeBSD and Firefox (or any other browser.
>
> Currently, she's getting a canned "apology" page saying:
> -
> MSN Chat is not currently compatible with your Internet browser and/or
> computer operating system.
>
> Here's what you need to enjoy MSN Chat:
>
>
> Windows 95 or later
> At this time, MSN Chat does not work on Macintosh, Windows 3.1, Windows NT
> 3.1, and Unix Operating systems.
>
> Internet Explorer 4.0 or later
> You can download the latest version for free at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie.
>
> - or -
>
> Netscape Navigator 4.x
> To find out more, go to: http://home.netscape.com.
> -
>
> Thanks for advice, pointers or other help you might be able to offer.
>

Firefox on my Win2k laptop can get to the real front page of msn chat
and the fact that they say that Netscape Navigator will work with
there site makes me think you just need to spoof your user agent
string. Try this: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/ and change
your agent string to something like this:

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)

I'd test it out for you but I don't have Firefox installed on my BSD
systems, I use Opera and my Mac OS X system is without a network
connection at the moment.



I forgot about Konqueror :-) I just tried spoofing msn chat with
Konqueror and it worked, well I got to the front page at least but I
don't have an msn account so I can't test it any further. In Konqueror
simply goto Settings > Configure Konqueror... > Browser
Identification, and then click on "New...". set it to
http://chat.msn.com and use "Internet Explorer 6.0 on Windows XP".


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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread Jerry McAllister

>  much excised ---

> > Anyway, this all works just fine.  The MBR and initial boot record in
> > the boot sector of each slice (or primary partition if you must degrade
> > to MS terminology) have just enough standardization that the FreeBSD MBR
> > or most any of the other more fancy ones, can initiate the boot for any
> > of the OS-en commonly available to run on these machines.   Since the OS
> > specific stuff really comes after it gets in to the slice boot record
> > code in the boot sector, then generally any of them can boot any of them.
> > The exception is MS MBRs.  I have heard that some more recent ones play
> > better, but any I have had so far will not boot any slice except one
> > for a MS OS.   I don't know what they screw up, but find it not surprisin=
> g.
> >
> > So, there is the tome.
> > All newbies, careful what you ask.  Someone may answer thusly with more
> > than you every wanted to know.
> >
> > jerry
> 
> Maybe this ought to be included in the handbook. I've seen this question or
> one like it 100's of times on these lists. That was the best answer I've
> seen.
> Just my $.02

Thanks for the positive comment.
It glosses over stuff a little and isn't precisely correct in all detail,
but I think it generally is correct and represents the way things work
for all practical matters.

Maybe it can be a FAQ.   How do they get there?

jerry

> 
> Beech
> 
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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Saturday 10 June 2006 18:11, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Jun 10, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > >> Hello;
> > >> If I want to set up a dual boot of either Linux or FreeBSD, what is
> > >> the
> > >> best way to go about it?
> > >> Use Lilo, grub, or does FreeBSD have a boot loader that it likes
> > >> better
> > >> and Linux won't object to?
> > >
> > > Mabye you are using the term 'boot loader' for what I am used to seeing
> > > called the 'MBR'.   The boot loader I am familiar comes later in the
> > > process and is unique to each OS.
> >
> > Thank you for correcting me on the terminology; and the info and advice.
> > So MBR is Master Boot Record? I remember when installing FreeBSD and
> > slicing and partitioning it asks if the slice should contain and MBR. I
> > assumed
> > that that was the part of the os that was os specific because the file
> > systems
> > are different, but I may have something to learn correctly.
> > Particularly the difference
> > between slices and labeling/partitioning. But this confusion hasn't
> > prevented me from installing successfully.
>
> OK.   Just a little more on MBR vs boot sector vs boot loader.
>
> The slice doesn't contain the MBR.  That is in sector 0 of the disk device.
> Then 'below' that, each slice contains a boot sector.
>
> In FreeBSd world, a slice is the primary division of the disk.  It is
> generally referred to as a primary partition in Microsloth land.  But
> that is the same.  Each slice (primary partition) can be bootable.
>
> To be bootable, a slice must be marked as bootable and have a boot
> record in its first sector.  Note that this is not the first sector on
> the disk device (eg sector 0) but the boot sector of the slice.   That
> boot record is unique to the particular OS living in that slice.
>
> In FreeBSD (as with most UNIXen) each slice can be further divided
> in to partitions.   In FreeBSD, the 'a' partition on the slice is
> generally assumed to be the system partition and is called 'root' and
> gets mounted as '/'.
>
> The sequence of events is essentially:
>   The system starts up, find and runs the BIOS.
>   The BIOS does some hardware checks, including the boot order.
>   A typical boot order can be:   floppy, CD, Hard disk.
>   The BIOS searches through its boot device list for one that has an MBR
>   The BIOS loads the first MBR it finds in its list and transfers control.
>   The MBR looks at its slice table and offers a choice of those that
>   are marked as bootable and have a recognizable boot record in its
>   boot sector.  All MBRs have some way of choosing a slice to boot by
>   default if you don't make any other choice.
>   The MBR loads up that boot sector and transfers control to it.
>   The boot sector code does some more checking and generally runs a boot
>   loader that is able to read up some sort of script that tells what
> features you want to be part of the system.
>   The boot record then finishes the boot and hands over control to the
> newly booted system, usually to a program called 'init' in UNIX world. Some
> more services might still be started after init begins to run.  In FreeBSD
> that is controlled by the rc.xxx scripts.   All that stuff that the boot
> loader looks at and the init program that is given control are normally
> somewhere in the root (/) partition, which is part of the slice being
> booted, which is a primary division of the disk device being booted.
>
> So, in a sense, there is a hierarchy:  BIOS, disk device, slice then
> partition Each has some part of the boot and tha is used in order.
>
> If there are bootable slices on more than one disk device, then each disk
> that has a bootable slice that you intend to use that way, must have an
> MBR. Each bootable slice on each bootable disk must have a boot record in
> the boot sector.  After that, it is up the the OS what comes next.
> The BIOS only deals with the first device in its boot list that has a
> proper MBR and hands control to it.   If there is more than one device
> to choose from, that MBR has to figure it out and give you that choice.
>
> Although it would be possible for that first MBR to read up all the
> slices that are marked as bootable on all disk devices and offer them
> all as choices right off the bat.   But, at least the FreeBSD MBR starts
> with the its own bootable slices and then just the other disks that
> have MBRs   If you want one of the other disks, you first select that
> disk (generally identified as choice 5 or F5) and then its MBR will
> put up its list of choices for you.   I haven't tried it with 3 disks
> with bootable slices.  I guess it will just continue on.
>
> Anyway, this all works just fine.  The MBR and initial boot record in
> the boot sector of each slice (or primary partition if you must degrade
> to MS terminology) have just enough standardization that the FreeBSD MBR
> or most any of the other more fancy ones, can initiate the boot for any
> of the OS-en co

Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, dgmm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know this is a long shot but my GF want's know if it's possible to get into
an MSN groups chat room using FreeBSD and Firefox (or any other browser.

Currently, she's getting a canned "apology" page saying:
-
MSN Chat is not currently compatible with your Internet browser and/or
computer operating system.

Here's what you need to enjoy MSN Chat:


Windows 95 or later
At this time, MSN Chat does not work on Macintosh, Windows 3.1, Windows NT
3.1, and Unix Operating systems.

Internet Explorer 4.0 or later
You can download the latest version for free at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie.

- or -

Netscape Navigator 4.x
To find out more, go to: http://home.netscape.com.
-

Thanks for advice, pointers or other help you might be able to offer.



Firefox on my Win2k laptop can get to the real front page of msn chat
and the fact that they say that Netscape Navigator will work with
there site makes me think you just need to spoof your user agent
string. Try this: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/ and change
your agent string to something like this:

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)

I'd test it out for you but I don't have Firefox installed on my BSD
systems, I use Opera and my Mac OS X system is without a network
connection at the moment.


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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> 
> On Jun 10, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> Hello;
> >> If I want to set up a dual boot of either Linux or FreeBSD, what is 
> >> the
> >> best way to go about it?
> >> Use Lilo, grub, or does FreeBSD have a boot loader that it likes 
> >> better
> >> and Linux won't object to?
> >
> > Mabye you are using the term 'boot loader' for what I am used to seeing
> > called the 'MBR'.   The boot loader I am familiar comes later in the
> > process and is unique to each OS.
> 
> Thank you for correcting me on the terminology; and the info and advice.
> So MBR is Master Boot Record? I remember when installing FreeBSD and
> slicing and partitioning it asks if the slice should contain and MBR. I 
> assumed
> that that was the part of the os that was os specific because the file 
> systems
> are different, but I may have something to learn correctly. 
> Particularly the difference
> between slices and labeling/partitioning. But this confusion hasn't 
> prevented me from installing successfully.

OK.   Just a little more on MBR vs boot sector vs boot loader.

The slice doesn't contain the MBR.  That is in sector 0 of the disk device.
Then 'below' that, each slice contains a boot sector.   

In FreeBSd world, a slice is the primary division of the disk.  It is
generally referred to as a primary partition in Microsloth land.  But
that is the same.  Each slice (primary partition) can be bootable. 

To be bootable, a slice must be marked as bootable and have a boot
record in its first sector.  Note that this is not the first sector on
the disk device (eg sector 0) but the boot sector of the slice.   That 
boot record is unique to the particular OS living in that slice.

In FreeBSD (as with most UNIXen) each slice can be further divided
in to partitions.   In FreeBSD, the 'a' partition on the slice is
generally assumed to be the system partition and is called 'root' and
gets mounted as '/'.   

The sequence of events is essentially:
  The system starts up, find and runs the BIOS. 
  The BIOS does some hardware checks, including the boot order.
  A typical boot order can be:   floppy, CD, Hard disk.
  The BIOS searches through its boot device list for one that has an MBR
  The BIOS loads the first MBR it finds in its list and transfers control.
  The MBR looks at its slice table and offers a choice of those that 
  are marked as bootable and have a recognizable boot record in its 
  boot sector.  All MBRs have some way of choosing a slice to boot by 
  default if you don't make any other choice.  
  The MBR loads up that boot sector and transfers control to it.
  The boot sector code does some more checking and generally runs a boot
  loader that is able to read up some sort of script that tells what features
  you want to be part of the system.
  The boot record then finishes the boot and hands over control to the newly
  booted system, usually to a program called 'init' in UNIX world.
  Some more services might still be started after init begins to run.  In
  FreeBSD that is controlled by the rc.xxx scripts.   All that stuff that
  the boot loader looks at and the init program that is given control are
  normally somewhere in the root (/) partition, which is part of the slice
  being booted, which is a primary division of the disk device being booted.

So, in a sense, there is a hierarchy:  BIOS, disk device, slice then partition
Each has some part of the boot and tha is used in order.
   
If there are bootable slices on more than one disk device, then each disk
that has a bootable slice that you intend to use that way, must have an MBR.
Each bootable slice on each bootable disk must have a boot record in the
boot sector.  After that, it is up the the OS what comes next.
The BIOS only deals with the first device in its boot list that has a
proper MBR and hands control to it.   If there is more than one device
to choose from, that MBR has to figure it out and give you that choice.
  
Although it would be possible for that first MBR to read up all the 
slices that are marked as bootable on all disk devices and offer them
all as choices right off the bat.   But, at least the FreeBSD MBR starts
with the its own bootable slices and then just the other disks that
have MBRs   If you want one of the other disks, you first select that
disk (generally identified as choice 5 or F5) and then its MBR will 
put up its list of choices for you.   I haven't tried it with 3 disks
with bootable slices.  I guess it will just continue on.

Anyway, this all works just fine.  The MBR and initial boot record in
the boot sector of each slice (or primary partition if you must degrade
to MS terminology) have just enough standardization that the FreeBSD MBR
or most any of the other more fancy ones, can initiate the boot for any 
of the OS-en commonly available to run on these machines.   Since the OS
specific stuff really comes after it gets in to the slice boot record 
code in the boot sector, then ge

Re: upgrading mysql-server

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/8/06, Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So, my nightly security report says that I should upgrade mysql-server.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# pkg_info | grep mysql-server
mysql-server-4.1.15 Multithreaded SQL database (server)

But, what port does this correspond to?



Simply cd into /usr/ports/databases/postgresql81-server and type make
install clean... This should fix you problems. :-)

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Re: FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, Derek Jander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional
to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have
some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend
told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks
great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my
machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and
stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had
already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment?
Any help will be appreciated.



If you looking for a first time BSD desktop (KDE) then try PC-BSD. and
If you can't get that to run (PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD) give SuSE
10.1 a go.


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Re: ports upgrade question

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a newbie running 6.1 stable and I have what may be several simple questions: What exactly 
is happening when I run "make index && make readmes" after I upgrade my ports 
tree? Why aren't the indexes and readmes made when we run cvsup ports-supfile? Finally, why does it 
take so long to make what appear (to me) to be fairly small files? Thanks.
>

You don't need to run make index... just cd into /usr/ports and type
'make fetchindex' after every cvsup session. You don't need to run
make readmes too, these are just html pages with all the ports listed
on them... see here for an example: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/


err... that link/example should be something more like this one:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=stuff&stype=all&sektion=all


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Re: ports upgrade question

2006-06-10 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm a newbie running 6.1 stable and I have what may be several simple questions: What exactly is 
happening when I run "make index && make readmes" after I upgrade my ports 
tree? Why aren't the indexes and readmes made when we run cvsup ports-supfile? Finally, why does 
it take so long to make what appear (to me) to be fairly small files? Thanks.



You don't need to run make index... just cd into /usr/ports and type
'make fetchindex' after every cvsup session. You don't need to run
make readmes too, these are just html pages with all the ports listed
on them... see here for an example: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/


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ports upgrade question

2006-06-10 Thread aaronvan
I'm a newbie running 6.1 stable and I have what may be several simple 
questions: What exactly is happening when I run "make index && make readmes" 
after I upgrade my ports tree? Why aren't the indexes and readmes made when we 
run cvsup ports-supfile? Finally, why does it take so long to make what appear 
(to me) to be fairly small files? Thanks.

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(no subject)

2006-06-10 Thread aaronvan
I'm a newbie running 6.1 stable and I have what may be several simple 
questions: What exactly is happening when I run "make index && make readmes" 
after I upgrade my ports tree? Why aren't the indexes and readmes made when we 
run cvsup ports-supfile? Finally, why does it take so long to make what appear 
(to me) to be fairly small files? Thanks.

-- Aaron
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Re: FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Derek Jander wrote:
Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP 
Professional

to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have
some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some 
firend

told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks
great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my
machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and
stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had
already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment?
Any help will be appreciated.

Thank you!


You could also stay on virtual machines. If you deal with different 
flavors of Linux, this will allow you to experiment and a mistake will 
not render you without laptop. Also until you make your laptop run 
FreeBSD, you might have some downtime, if you have not done it.


Just some thoughts.

Iv.

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Re: Full screen graphics hangs my system

2006-06-10 Thread Derek Ragona

You probably need to do:
portupgrade -a

I have had similar issues moving 6.0 to 6.1 with an nvidia card.  My box 
was not locked up, but the console sure was.


-Derek

At 09:35 AM 6/9/2006, Andrea Venturoli wrote:

Hello.

I had a 6.0/i386 box with a Matrox card.
Sometimes I used to run some game which went fullscreen with almost no 
problems.


After I upgraded to 6.1 doing so will instantly freeze my system, and as 
soon as I press any key it will reboot. Nothings gets into the logs.


Any hint?

 bye & Thanks
av.

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Re: FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread Sergio Lenzi
Hello...
I have here running on an HP pavilion zv6000 with all enabled...
gnome2.14 + flash7 + wireless + kernel 6.1 + java. + multimedia(all
types and plugins: rmv, avi, asf)
+ dvdRW..., openoffice 2.0.2 java 1.4, 1.5, eclipse, jdk,
monodevelop 
the broadcom wireless built from the ndis windows driver...
All running on FreeBSD 


Is amazing... in fact, we are starting do ship notebooks with FreeBSD in
1-2 months...
the primary users will be high executives, decision chain persons, that
will operate Kontact + evolution
linked to a Open-Xchange servers... 

Their  needed for secure machines, with an secure operating system, that
is imune to virus , spywares,
with a vpn (using ppp over ip) that in case of lost, robbery, can be
used to track down the machine
or simply wipe out the operating system and do not expose the
information inside...  
a secret key on the loader, prevents the machine from being used in
single user, so one machine can
be safetly be used with more than one person in the company...
Besides, each notebook  (a turion amd64...)  can be used as a FreeBSD
diskless server, and when activated,
almost every machine on an lan that connects with it, can be used with
as a diskless client using 
PXE boot (available on almost every PC now... including the
notebook...).




I can send  some screen shots if you are interested...


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Re: FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Derek Jander wrote:
> Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP
> Professional
> to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have
> some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some
> firend
> told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks
> great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my
> machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and
> stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had
> already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment?
> Any help will be appreciated.

If you need help with a particular piece of hardware, better specify the
chipset of that rather than the model of the laptop. There are two
things for you to do:

1) check the hardware compatibility list for the version you plan to
install, ie:

  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/hardware-i386.html

2) Try one of the available live cd's. Unfortunately they are usually
based on one of the older releases, but if it works then you can be
quite certain that it will also work with the latest release.

Hope that helps, Erik

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Re: FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Jun 10, 2006, at 1:45 AM, Derek Jander wrote:

Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP  
Professional
to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now  
have
some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when  
some firend
told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it  
looks
great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it  
work on my
machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the  
Wireless and

stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had
already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any  
comment?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thank you!


I'd look into the laptop mailing list to see if anyone else has asked  
this same question.

-Garrett
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Re: Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access

2006-06-10 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Jun 10, 2006, at 8:54 AM, dgmm wrote:

I know this is a long shot but my GF want's know if it's possible  
to get into
an MSN groups chat room using FreeBSD and Firefox (or any other  
browser.


Currently, she's getting a canned "apology" page saying:
-- 
---

MSN Chat is not currently compatible with your Internet browser and/or
computer operating system.

Here's what you need to enjoy MSN Chat:


Windows 95 or later
At this time, MSN Chat does not work on Macintosh, Windows 3.1,  
Windows NT

3.1, and Unix Operating systems.

Internet Explorer 4.0 or later
You can download the latest version for free at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie.

- or -

Netscape Navigator 4.x
To find out more, go to: http://home.netscape.com.
-- 
---


Thanks for advice, pointers or other help you might be able to offer.

--
Dave


It's not possible using Firefox, but you might be able to do it if  
you install Wine and Internet Explorer. I'd google for "Wine Internet  
Explorer"; this will yield helpful information on how to get  
everything setup with IE to work within Wine on Unix.

-Garrett
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Long Shot - MSN Group chat room access

2006-06-10 Thread dgmm
I know this is a long shot but my GF want's know if it's possible to get into 
an MSN groups chat room using FreeBSD and Firefox (or any other browser.

Currently, she's getting a canned "apology" page saying:
-
MSN Chat is not currently compatible with your Internet browser and/or 
computer operating system.

Here's what you need to enjoy MSN Chat:


Windows 95 or later
At this time, MSN Chat does not work on Macintosh, Windows 3.1, Windows NT 
3.1, and Unix Operating systems.

Internet Explorer 4.0 or later
You can download the latest version for free at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie.

- or -

Netscape Navigator 4.x
To find out more, go to: http://home.netscape.com.
-

Thanks for advice, pointers or other help you might be able to offer.

-- 
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FreeBSD on laptops

2006-06-10 Thread Derek Jander

Hi all! I'm considering to migrate my HP nx9030 from Windows XP Professional
to *nix OS since almost all the servers I'm administering right now have
some Linux flavour installed. I was about to install fedora when some firend
told me about FreeBSD. I just tested it on a Virtual Machine and it looks
great. My doubt now, is if it will be very difficult to make it work on my
machine. I really need the internal modem, and of course the Wireless and
stuff... And I can't be dealing with it for months Anyone who had
already installed FBSD on that sistem (HP nx9030) could post any comment?
Any help will be appreciated.

Thank you!
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Re: autoreply postfix

2006-06-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On March 10, 2006 2:22:06 PM -0300 Rodrigo Mufalani 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi all,

  I want configure postfix autoreply, for undelivery mails

If one user does not exists.


Every MTA already does this, *if* you mean reject the mail:

telnet smtp.utdallas.edu 25
Trying 129.110.10.12...
Connected to smtp.utdallas.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp1.utdallas.edu ESMTP Postfix
EHLO stovebolt.com
250-smtp1.utdallas.edu
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 157286400
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250 8BITMIME
MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok
RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address rejected: Access denied
QUIT
221 Bye
Connection closed by foreign host.

If you mean, send an autoreply to the sender, as others have pointed out, 
you do *NOT* want to do that.  If you do, your server will get blacklisted 
very quickly.


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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: USB keyboard and loader

2006-06-10 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* On 10/06/06 11:21 +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
| NgD Vulto wrote:
| 
| >I have some doubts about your question, it happens at the screen of the
| >freebsd-loader when you are installing or you installed it already and then
| >you can't access the options of the loader?
| 
| I had to use a PS/2 keyboard to install, or at least, I remember so (it 
| was a long time ago).
| 
| Now I'm talking going single user on boot on an already working system.

usbd_enable="YES" 

in /etc/rc.conf should almost solve your problem on a running system.


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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread Hunter Fuller


On  10 Jun 2006, at 11:45 AM, julien Chaffraix wrote:


Hello,

I have made the same configuration (Debian and FreeBSD). I used  
Grub and it works very well, here is the entry in menu.lst:

I'll tell you which of these were different and why...


title   FreeBSD
root(hd0,0)

Odd, I had to specify the slice (the a in "root (hd0,0,a)")

makeactive

I don't think this is necessary.

chainloader +1
Well, this is a different way to do it, usually this is used with  
Microsuck products... but I suppose it'd work here too.

savedefault

A handy feature, but I don't use it.

boot

(It is strange that the entry is not the same as the previous  
answer !?)


I also implemented the swap 's sharing as it is presented in the  
mini-howto Linux-FreeBSD (http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Linux 
+FreeBSD.html). The howto is a bit old but you can follow it.

Glad you got everything working.


Cheers,

Julien

Hunter Fuller wrote:
Grub does well for me. Set it up for Linux and then set it up for  
BSD, making sure the UFS driver's in there. Here's my command-list  
for booting FBSD.


root (hd0,0,a)
kernel /boot/loader
boot

I might have the spacing wrong, I'm doing it from memory, but the  
data's all there.


On  10 Jun 2006, at 1:26 AM, jekillen wrote:


Hello;
If I want to set up a dual boot of either Linux or FreeBSD, what  
is the best way to go about it?
Use Lilo, grub, or does FreeBSD have a boot loader that it likes  
better and Linux won't object to?
i'm planning on using Debian on a separate bootable hard drive. I  
have to get more info on what
version of Debian I will use. FreeBSD is version 6.0 release. It  
works great, has little quirks here
and there but are negligible, Xwindow screen saver daemon won't  
run, but that's ok because
mostly I shut the monitor off when not using the system. Gnome  
throws up a dialog every
time it starts stating that a panel is already running. Once it  
kept presenting the same dialog
several times before it was satisfied that I got the message.  
Monitor works great without any
intervention from me. I sure is nice to have a computer system  
that just runs and runs and
I don't have to do finger nail biting trying to stay ahead of  
crashes.

Thanks in advance:
JK

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Re: autoreply postfix

2006-06-10 Thread Viktor Cemasko
On Fri, 10 _Mar_ 2006 14:22:06 -0300 Rodrigo Mufalani wrote:

>   I want configure postfix autoreply, for undelivery mails
> If one user does not exists.

Correct Your date.
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KLD error messages

2006-06-10 Thread Danial Thom
Would someone on the -current list please get
someone to fix the error message when loading KLD
modules? After many years it still says "file not
found" instead of "unresolved externals" and its
really quit silly.

DT

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Re: autoreply postfix

2006-06-10 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Rodrigo Mufalani wrote:

>   I want configure postfix autoreply, for undelivery mails
> 
> If one user does not exists.

The short advice: do not.

In the case you mention, user does not exist, your postfix should give a
5XX error back to the sending system. That system will then take care of
error response to the sender.

Secondly, by sending error messages whether to the one in the "MAIL
FROM" envelope field or (possibly worse) to the one in any of the
"reply-to", "from" or "return-path" mail header fields you will get
problems with spam which often forge these fields:

1) In case the recipient of the error message exist, it is likely not
the one who should have your error message.

2) In the case the recipient does not exist, this causes a double-
bounce, the error message cannot be delivered and is returned to the
postmaster mailbox - which is you.

A correctly configured server should only generate error messages to
local users when a local user's mail-delivery fails. This is already
done by postfix when a delivery attempt results in an 5XX error code.

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Re: upgrading mysql-server

2006-06-10 Thread Gerard Seibert
Riemer Palstra wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:08:03PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> > And it shuts down my mysql server, but does not start it again. That's
> > not very nice. Should the upgrade not handle this?
> 
> I'm not aware of any port doing this. If you use portupgrade, use the
> AFTERINSTALL configuration options to call the rc.d scripts and restart.

You can configure 'portmanager' to stop and restart a program also. I
was having the same problem with MySQL. After configuring 'portmanager'
to properly handle MySQL, I never had another problem with it.

Just my 2¢.


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Re: 6.1 missing device cuaa ?

2006-06-10 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Casper wrote:


 I wanted to setup hylafax and find problem, that there is no device 
cuaa...


%uname -a
FreeBSD Test 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 
2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


%ls /dev/cua*
/dev/cuad0  /dev/cuad0.init /dev/cuad0.lock


In my older computer:


 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls /dev/cua*

/dev/cuaa0  /dev/cuaia0 /dev/cuala0
/dev/cuaa1  /dev/cuaia1 /dev/cuala1


Is device name changed?


Yes. 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2081771+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2004/cvs-all/20041017.cvs-all


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Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?

2006-06-10 Thread wc_fbsd

> I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare directories
> (recursively) showing what files are different,etc. meld ( textproc/meld )
> can do this to some extent, showing missing files,etc, but not showing

You said "for X" -- check out Kdiff3 -- it rocks if you're looking 
for a visual comparison tool (though I've only used it under windoze) 
http://kdiff3.sourceforge.net/  or /usr/ports/textproc/kdiff3


  -Wayne
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Weltmeister [schmix_film feat. Lax Alex Contrax]

2006-06-10 Thread schmix_film

 Leckomio, liebe Wartenden!

  

   Die Heiopeis vom Niederrhein haben es mit viel Ramba-Zamba wieder mal
 auf den letzten Drücker geschafft:

Nach zahlreichen Nächten im Atelier der Alberei kommt nun doch noch
 pünktlich der schmix_film-Beitrag zur WM.


  Unsere zwei frechen Himmelhunde spielen diesmal acht (in Worten:
 acht!) Charaktere

  im Clip zum brandneuen "Weltmeister"-Song von Lax Alex Contrax.


Klemmi aus "Stille Wasser" ist wieder dabei, aber auch Jochen, Zecki
und Herr Berg bekommen ihre 3 Minuten Ruhm.
   Für knisternde Erotik sorgen zwei hemmungslose Trikot-Luder mit tollen
  Tröten.


  Doch der großen Worte seien genug gewechselt - Ball frei für die
 spielerisch wohl beste deutsche Acht aller Zeiten


Vorführung im Online-Kino ->
  [1]http://www.schmixfilm.de/kino_weltmeister_start.html

 Direkt-Link zum Clip -> :
   [2]http://62.75.215.190/schmix/weltmeister.mpg


  [3]http://www.schmixfilm.de/kino_weltmeister_start.html
   http://www.schmixfilm.de/kino_weltmeister_start.html 



 Dear waiting ones!


  After numerous nights in their creepy laboratories those german
  semi-nerds from schmixfilm finally did it again

and right on time we are now proud to present you their contribution
   to the World Cup 2006.


 This time they shake their hips to the inofficial World Cup-anthem
   Weltmeister from Germanys Ska-heroes Lax Alex!


 Enough of the boring blabla: Kick it with probably the best German
eight of all times!


  online presentaion in cinema ->
  [4]http://www.schmixfilm.de/kino_weltmeister_start.html

  direct link to clip -> :
   [5]http://62.75.215.190/schmix/weltmeister.mpg

References

   1. http://www.schmixfilm.de/kino_weltmeister_start.html
   2. http://62.75.215.190/schmix/weltmeister.mpg
   3. http://www.schmixfilm.de/kino_weltmeister_start.html
   4. http://www.schmixfilm.de/kino_weltmeister_start.html
   5. http://62.75.215.190/schmix/weltmeister.mpg
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autoreply postfix

2006-06-10 Thread Rodrigo Mufalani
Hi all,

  I want configure postfix autoreply, for undelivery mails

If one user does not exists.

Att,

Rodrigo Mufalani

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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Hello;
> If I want to set up a dual boot of either Linux or FreeBSD, what is the 
> best way to go about it?
> Use Lilo, grub, or does FreeBSD have a boot loader that it likes better 
> and Linux won't object to?

Mabye you are using the term 'boot loader' for what I am used to seeing
called the 'MBR'.   The boot loader I am familiar comes later in the
process and is unique to each OS.

All of those you name will work as an MBR.
I just stick with the FreeBSD MBR but I don't have any need for fancy
features or display formatting that the others give you.
The FreeBSD MBR should be able to start any of them.  FreeBSD can be
started from any of those MBRs.   It is more an aesthetic thing.  Advocates
of each tend to get rabidly partisan.  But, the really meaningful differences
are small.

Past the MBR stage, use the boot sector and boot loader stuff that comes
with the OS you put on each bootable slice.

One thing you need to do is put the MBR on each disk if you are putting
each OS on a separate disk.   The Bios will start the first one and
the MBR should then give you a choice of any bootable slices on the first
drive and also the choice of going to the second drive MBR.  If you
then chose the second MBR, that one will give you the choice of all
the bootable slices on that drive.   Probably you will make only one
bootable slice on each drive, but could make up to 4.

Someone else will have to respond to the X questions.
Usually it is best to put separate questions in separate posts.  It makes
responding easier.

jerry

> i'm planning on using Debian on a separate bootable hard drive. I have 
> to get more info on what
> version of Debian I will use. FreeBSD is version 6.0 release. It works 
> great, has little quirks here
> and there but are negligible, Xwindow screen saver daemon won't run, 
> but that's ok because
> mostly I shut the monitor off when not using the system. Gnome throws 
> up a dialog every
> time it starts stating that a panel is already running. Once it kept 
> presenting the same dialog
> several times before it was satisfied that I got the message. Monitor 
> works great without any
> intervention from me. I sure is nice to have a computer system that 
> just runs and runs and
> I don't have to do finger nail biting trying to stay ahead of crashes.
> Thanks in advance:
> JK
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6.1 missing device cuaa ?

2006-06-10 Thread Casper


 Hi,

 I wanted to setup hylafax and find problem, that there is no device 
cuaa...


%uname -a
FreeBSD Test 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 
2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


%ls /dev/cua*
/dev/cuad0  /dev/cuad0.init /dev/cuad0.lock


In my older computer:

FreeBSD sadkis.lv 5.4-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p7 #0: Fri Sep  9 
12:47:55 EEST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SADKIS  i386


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ls /dev/cua*
/dev/cuaa0  /dev/cuaia0 /dev/cuala0
/dev/cuaa1  /dev/cuaia1 /dev/cuala1



Is device name changed?

tnx,
K.
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Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?

2006-06-10 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:

 > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:56:17 +1000 (EST)
 > Ian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > >  > I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare directories
 > >  > (recursively) showing what files are different,etc. meld ( 
 > > textproc/meld )
 > >  > can do this to some extent, showing missing files,etc, but not showing
 > >  > what files are different withoug having to open each file and do a diff.
 > > 
 > > Well of course 'diff -r dir1 dir2 | less' does that well in an xterm :)
 > > 
 > 
 > yeah, but it's just way too verbose. something that allows very quick
 > determination of differences / missing files, transfer them from one tree to
 > another,etc. Specially for LARGE trees.

A job for rsync, perhaps, if you want to automatically syncronise the
trees, rather than just review the diffs?  (caveat: I know very close to
nothing about rsync, beyond having reading its man xty-x times :)

 > > But I guess you're after a more pointy clicky solution :)
 > 
 > not because of point+click per se, but yes for faster overview of things.

I recall a wonderful OS/2 tool for this purpose .. ahem, moving on .. 

 > > % diff bittorrent/ bittorrent2/
 > > diff bittorrent/differingfile bittorrent2/differingfile
 > > 1,2c1,3
 > > < this one in bittorrent dir
[..]
 > 
 > yeah.. i tried this with 2 src trees with over 1.2 K  files each... it was 
 > way
 > too much to digest quickly :D

Ok, my last shot with good ol' diff, on the same filesets (this is news
to me too; I haven't explored many of the diff options much before): 

% diff -rq bittorrent/ bittorrent2/
Files bittorrent/differingfile and bittorrent2/differingfile differ
Only in bittorrent2/: not_in_1
Only in bittorrent/: not_in_2

For moving files between two trees, looks like a bit of scripting on -q
(--brief) output may get you there? Hopefully someone has a better idea? 

cheers, Ian

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Re: upgrading mysql-server

2006-06-10 Thread Riemer Palstra
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:08:03PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> And it shuts down my mysql server, but does not start it again. That's
> not very nice. Should the upgrade not handle this?

I'm not aware of any port doing this. If you use portupgrade, use the
AFTERINSTALL configuration options to call the rc.d scripts and restart.

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Re: upgrading mysql-server

2006-06-10 Thread Riemer Palstra
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:01:00PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> If the port is mysql41-server, maybe the package name should be similar?

Ah, because the package is named mysql-server-4.1.20.tbz you mean? Hm,
for people using packages, this would maybe make life easier, but to be
honest, I don't know if it's possible to name the package differently
from PORTNAME(+PKGSUFFIX)+PORTVERSION...

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Re: USB keyboard and loader

2006-06-10 Thread Andrea Venturoli

NgD Vulto wrote:


I have some doubts about your question, it happens at the screen of the
freebsd-loader when you are installing or you installed it already and then
you can't access the options of the loader?


I had to use a PS/2 keyboard to install, or at least, I remember so (it 
was a long time ago).


Now I'm talking going single user on boot on an already working system.

 bye & Thanks
av.
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Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?

2006-06-10 Thread dgmm
On Saturday 10 June 2006 01:40, Norberto Meijome wrote:
    
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:56:17 +1000 (EST)
>
> Ian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 137, Issue 55
> >
> > Hi Beto,
> >
> > (offlist as it's just a silly answer, not one for X)
>
> Hey Ian,
> thx, not a silly answer at all
>
> >  > I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare directories
> >  > (recursively) showing what files are different,etc. meld (
> > textproc/meld ) > can do this to some extent, showing missing files,etc,
> > but not showing > what files are different withoug having to open each
> > file and do a diff.
> >
> > Well of course 'diff -r dir1 dir2 | less' does that well in an xterm :)
>
> yeah, but it's just way too verbose. something that allows very quick
> determination of differences / missing files, transfer them from one tree
> to another,etc. Specially for LARGE trees.


rsync -rn dir1 dir2

r = recurse directories
n = no action, just report the diffs

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Re: dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-10 Thread julien Chaffraix

Hello,

I have made the same configuration (Debian and FreeBSD). I used Grub and 
it works very well, here is the entry in menu.lst:


title   FreeBSD
root(hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
savedefault
boot

(It is strange that the entry is not the same as the previous answer !?)

I also implemented the swap 's sharing as it is presented in the 
mini-howto Linux-FreeBSD 
(http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Linux+FreeBSD.html). The howto is a 
bit old but you can follow it.


Cheers,

Julien

Hunter Fuller wrote:
Grub does well for me. Set it up for Linux and then set it up for BSD, 
making sure the UFS driver's in there. Here's my command-list for 
booting FBSD.


root (hd0,0,a)
kernel /boot/loader
boot

I might have the spacing wrong, I'm doing it from memory, but the 
data's all there.


On  10 Jun 2006, at 1:26 AM, jekillen wrote:


Hello;
If I want to set up a dual boot of either Linux or FreeBSD, what is 
the best way to go about it?
Use Lilo, grub, or does FreeBSD have a boot loader that it likes 
better and Linux won't object to?
i'm planning on using Debian on a separate bootable hard drive. I 
have to get more info on what
version of Debian I will use. FreeBSD is version 6.0 release. It 
works great, has little quirks here
and there but are negligible, Xwindow screen saver daemon won't run, 
but that's ok because
mostly I shut the monitor off when not using the system. Gnome throws 
up a dialog every
time it starts stating that a panel is already running. Once it kept 
presenting the same dialog
several times before it was satisfied that I got the message. Monitor 
works great without any
intervention from me. I sure is nice to have a computer system that 
just runs and runs and

I don't have to do finger nail biting trying to stay ahead of crashes.
Thanks in advance:
JK

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Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?

2006-06-10 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:09:49 -0700
Walt Pawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >>  > I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare directories
> >>  > (recursively) showing what files are different,etc. meld
> >>( textproc/meld )
> >>  > can do this to some extent, showing missing files,etc, but not showing
> >>  > what files are different withoug having to open each file and do a diff.
> 
> How about rsync -n (or --dry-run)?

:) yes, i use that quite a bit ... was looking for some improvement , i guess.
Maybe also because i've used this BeyondCompare tool for so many years in Win32
that i kind of miss it, snif snif ;)

maybe it's time to dust off the dev tools ... :)

thanks all,
Beto
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Re: kde-3.5.3 screensaver

2006-06-10 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 08 Jun vayu wrote:
> On Jun 8, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Chris Howells wrote:
> 
> >On Thursday 08 June 2006 17:14, dick hoogendijk wrote:
> >>Anybody experience the same as I do? After upgrading to the latest
> >>kde (from 3.5.2 to 3.5.3) the screensaver within kde stopped working.
> >
> >Yes, it's broke.
> >
> >http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128610
> I've had this same problem since 3.5.1.  I installed xscreensaver and  
> turned off KDE screensaver.  When I want to adjust it I run  
> xscreensaver-demo from the command line.  When I lock the screen I  
> get the KDE screen saver which will work for that.

I installed xscreensaver. Works like a charm. I start it with a
xscreensaver.desktop autostart file but unlike you I choose to replace the
kdesktop_lock file for a call to xscreensaver-command -lock
Thanks for the help, guys.

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Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?

2006-06-10 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:11:18 +1000 (EST)
Ian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:
> 
>  > On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 20:56:17 +1000 (EST)
>  > Ian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  > >  > I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare directories
>  > >  > (recursively) showing what files are different,etc. meld
>  > >  > ( textproc/meld ) can do this to some extent, showing missing
>  > >  > files,etc, but not showing what files are different withoug having to
>  > >  > open each file and do a diff.
>  > > 
>  > > Well of course 'diff -r dir1 dir2 | less' does that well in an xterm :)
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > yeah, but it's just way too verbose. something that allows very quick
>  > determination of differences / missing files, transfer them from one tree
>  > to another,etc. Specially for LARGE trees.
> 
> A job for rsync, perhaps, if you want to automatically syncronise the
> trees, rather than just review the diffs?  (caveat: I know very close to
> nothing about rsync, beyond having reading its man xty-x times :)
> 
>  > > But I guess you're after a more pointy clicky solution :)
>  > 
>  > not because of point+click per se, but yes for faster overview of things.
> 
> I recall a wonderful OS/2 tool for this purpose .. ahem, moving on .. 
> 
>  > > % diff bittorrent/ bittorrent2/
>  > > diff bittorrent/differingfile bittorrent2/differingfile
>  > > 1,2c1,3
>  > > < this one in bittorrent dir
> [..]
>  > 
>  > yeah.. i tried this with 2 src trees with over 1.2 K  files each... it was
>  > way too much to digest quickly :D
> 
> Ok, my last shot with good ol' diff, on the same filesets (this is news
> to me too; I haven't explored many of the diff options much before): 
> 
> % diff -rq bittorrent/ bittorrent2/
> Files bittorrent/differingfile and bittorrent2/differingfile differ
> Only in bittorrent2/: not_in_1
> Only in bittorrent/: not_in_2
> 
> For moving files between two trees, looks like a bit of scripting on -q
> (--brief) output may get you there? Hopefully someone has a better idea? 
> 
> cheers, Ian
> 

:) thanks mate. 
as you can see, there seem to be several tools that do parts of
it, few that combine them. i may not want to sync all the tree of course (hence
rsync good for quick comparison , etc.etc). 

xxdiff is quite good close to what i was after (despite the UI not being the
most up to date,still works quite well).  give it a try, make sure you enable
recursiveness ;) 

Beto
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Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?

2006-06-10 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:30:06 -0500
Eric Schuele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> xxdiff
>http://furius.ca/xxdiff/

thanks - i remember having used this one in the past, but i couldnt remember
its name :)

for those that like some GUI in their life, to launch xxdiff, i call a script
from the XFCE menu. The script runs zenity to allow me to select 2 directories
to compare:
--
#!/bin/sh
ZENITY="/usr/X11R6/bin/zenity"
XXDIFF="/usr/local/bin/xxdiff"

$XXDIFF --style windows `$ZENITY --file-selection --directory`/ \ 
`$ZENITY --file-selection --directory`/
---

thanks!
Beto
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