Re: Hardware compatible : Marble_Mouse/TrackMan Wheel from Logitech

2007-10-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:51:16AM +0800, williamkow wrote:
 
Tahnk you for your reply, may I ask if I to purchase TrackMan Wheel
Mouse (Logitech), does it also work and compatible in FreeBSD? Please
advise, Thank you.
[1]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/
166cl=my,en

I think it will. I haven't tried it since I'm left-handed. :-)

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Re: Hardware compatible : Marble_Mouse/TrackMan Wheel from Logitech

2007-10-08 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

I used the Trackman with earlier versions and I did not have any problems.

I do not use it with the current version.

Erich

Roland Smith wrote:

On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:51:16AM +0800, williamkow wrote:

   Tahnk you for your reply, may I ask if I to purchase TrackMan Wheel
   Mouse (Logitech), does it also work and compatible in FreeBSD? Please
   advise, Thank you.
   [1]http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/
   166cl=my,en


I think it will. I haven't tried it since I'm left-handed. :-)

Roland

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Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot

2007-10-08 Thread Novembre
  Well, I gave up using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot time a
  couple of months ago when I realized that it's not the correct way to do it
  (so I also wrote an rc.d script to do the job, but I'll talk about it
  later). However, I recently looked at fusefs-ntfs source files, and as you
  can see from
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/Makefile
  in revision 1.19, there are changes (installing a symlink) to allow using
  /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot. So I thought that maybe now
  it's okay to use /etc/fstab. Anyway, if it's still not possible to use
  /etc/fstab, then what does that sentence mean in the revision 1.19 of
  fusefs-ntfs Makefile (again, see the URL above)?

 The only way I can see that working is if /usr/local/modules in
 kern.modules_path /before/ mount -a is executed by /etc/rc.d/mount. Which
 means there should be a line:
 kern.module_path=/boot/kernel;/boot/modules;/usr/local/modules

 in /etc/sysctl.conf on your machine.
 Also, mount_ntfs-3g should be able to load the module dynamically.


My /etc/sysctl.conf is basically empty; it's all the usual default
comments. Nothing is specified there.


  Another question is why, even after loading the kernel module (see the
  'dmesg -a' output below), it is not possible to mount the NTFS partition?
  --
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg -a
  ...
  Starting fusefs.
  fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8
  ...
  Mounting late file systems:
  fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory
  --

 What does ls -l /sbin/mount_ntfs-3g say?


There is no /sbin/mount_ntfs-3g. But /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g exists
and is a symlink to /usr/local/bin/ntfs-3g.
I'm not sure whether it's relevant to your question, but I had made
/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g a symlink to /usr/local/bin/ntfs-3g myself, and
that also was not working (but I had tired it with the previous
version of ntfs-3g not the one currently installed).


  This output from /var/log/messages is also interesting, showing that
  ntfs-3g has indeed been run and that it has mounted my Windows partition
  (but I don't see it mounted)!
  --
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /var/log/messages
  ...
  Oct  6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from
  ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version
  0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write,
  label , NTFS 3.0)
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null)
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options:
  noatime,silent,allow_other ,fsname=/dev/ad0s1
  ...
  --

  And I didn't know about the /boot/modules way. Could you please ellaborate
  more? Is it a different way to load kernel modules than using
  /boot/loader.conf? When should one use that?
 
  And now, about coming back to using an rc.d script...After failing to use
  /etc/fstab, I wrote this script to mount the partition at boot time.
  However, this also does not work!
  --
  #!/bin/sh
  #
  # PROVIDE: ntfsmount
  # REQUIRE: fusefs
  #
 
  . /etc/rc.subr
 
  name=ntfsmount
  rcvar=${name}_enable
  command=/usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g
  command_args=/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8

 Does /mnt/windows exist?
 Anything interesting with `sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ntfsmount' ?


Yes, /mnt/windows exists. Nothing interesting as far as I could
understand the output of 'sh -x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ntfsmount'. What
specifically do I have to look for?


 If I find some more time, I'll play around with it.
 --
 Mel


Thanks a lot :)
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Re: NTFS-3G mount during boot

2007-10-08 Thread Novembre
On 10/7/07, Craig Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Novembre wrote:
  On 10/7/07, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sunday 07 October 2007 10:00:35 Novembre wrote:
 
 
  On 10/7/07, Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, Novembre wrote:
 
  The first error above is because the fuse kernel module is not yet
 
  loaded.
 
  Well isn't it sort of pointless to proceed until you get the kernel
  module loaded at boot time and then see what happens next?
 
  Oh, the kernel module IS loaded as shown in 'dmesg -a' and in
  /var/log/messages. However, it can't be loaded unless / and /usr file
  systems are mounted.
 
  Filesystems that need modules from anywhere else then the root partition
  cannot be loaded from /etc/fstab.
  Either make fusefs-kmod install in /boot/modules
  (echo 'KMOD_DIR=/boot/modules'
 
  /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod/Makefile.local) or mount the filesystem
 
  using an rc(8) script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/.
  In the end you do not really care whether it's mounted 20 seconds or 1
  second
  before login prompt is available.
 
  --
  Mel
 
 
 
 
 
  Well, I gave up using /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot time a
  couple of months ago when I realized that it's not the correct way to do it
  (so I also wrote an rc.d script to do the job, but I'll talk about it
  later). However, I recently looked at fusefs-ntfs source files, and as you
  can see from
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/Makefile in
  revision 1.19, there are changes (installing a symlink) to allow using
  /etc/fstab to mount NTFS partitions at boot. So I thought that maybe now
  it's okay to use /etc/fstab. Anyway, if it's still not possible to use
  /etc/fstab, then what does that sentence mean in the revision 1.19 of
  fusefs-ntfs Makefile (again, see the URL above)?
 
  Another question is why, even after loading the kernel module (see the
  'dmesg -a' output below), it is not possible to mount the NTFS partition?
  --
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg -a
  ...
  Starting fusefs.
  fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8
  ...
  Mounting late file systems:
  fuse: failed to exec mount program: No such file or directory
  --
 
  This output from /var/log/messages is also interesting, showing that ntfs-3g
  has indeed been run and that it has mounted my Windows partition (but I
  don't see it mounted)!
  --
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /var/log/messages
  ...
  Oct  6 14:22:40 pasargadae kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae kernel: fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI
  7.8
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Version 1.913
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mounted /dev/ad0s1 (Read-Write,
  label , NTFS 3.0)
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Cmdline options: (null)
  Oct  6 14:22:45 pasargadae ntfs-3g[811]: Mount options:
  noatime,silent,allow_other ,fsname=/dev/ad0s1
  ...
  --
 
  And I didn't know about the /boot/modules way. Could you please ellaborate
  more? Is it a different way to load kernel modules than using
  /boot/loader.conf? When should one use that?
 
  And now, about coming back to using an rc.d script...After failing to use
  /etc/fstab, I wrote this script to mount the partition at boot time.
  However, this also does not work!
  --
  #!/bin/sh
  #
  # PROVIDE: ntfsmount
  # REQUIRE: fusefs
  #
 
  . /etc/rc.subr
 
  name=ntfsmount
  rcvar=${name}_enable
  command=/usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g
  command_args=/dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8
 
  load_rc_config $name
 
  : ${ntfsmount_enable=NO}
 
  run_rc_command $1
  --
  I have made this script executable and have put ' ntfsmount_enable=YES '
  in my /etc/rc.conf. So basically, I'm out of ideas now, and I need the
  experts' help in this case. I think this problem is way above my current
  knowledge of FreeBSD.
 
  Thanks for your help :)
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 Wow thats a lot of work.

 one liner in /etc/rc.local
 /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /mnt/windows -o locale=en_US.UTF-8 


 Job Done :p




 
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Are you sure it's going to work? My rc.d script is doing just that and
it's not working. Are you using it yourself to mount any NTFS
partition at boot time?

Thanks :)
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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Gary Kline wrote:
   First, thank to both you and Bart for your cmments.  You were
   *right* about the price.  Can I assume that a ballpark would be
   400W for each server?  (My wife is right: I've got to cut back to
   three computers:-)  I've found one APC 2200VA with a 17minute
   uptime.  3 times 400W, yes?

I think this is overkill. Some time ago I was wondering the same thing and to 
verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a VA/Watts 
meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per server idle 
and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. of 180watts for 
less than a second. The servers are simple dual cores with about 2 harddisks 
each. (no screens or other devices attached) Also, the powerfactor was ~0,95 
so that means that for every Watt of apparent power (VA) almost a Watt of 
real power was used. Thus, for my servers I would need something like a 
500Watt/600VA UPS.

So my advice is: don't guess but measure.

Cheers,
Pieter de Goeje
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zero copy tcp send

2007-10-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar

i found sendfile(2) doing this.
but the question - does normal write(2) doing this when sending from user 
process memory, not file?


does memory have to be aligned special way,like to page boundary?


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controleur RAID LSI 3041 ER 4SAS

2007-10-08 Thread Elissonde, Maryline (FR)
Bonjour
Ce contrôleur est-il supporté par FREE BSD
Merci de votre retour urgent
Cdt
 
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Re: controleur RAID LSI 3041 ER 4SAS

2007-10-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Elissonde, Maryline (FR) wrote:


Bonjour
Ce contrôleur est-il supporté par FREE BSD


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Merci de votre retour urgent
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Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-08 Thread Elvar



Karl Vogel wrote:

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:03:06 +0200, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  


R On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 03:20:58PM -0500, Joe in MPLS wrote:
  J I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw  horde for
  J mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird  PDAs) for
  J primary spam control (especially because our PDAs don't do any). AV
  J scanning would be a plus too.
  
R I've been using bogofilter for some years now, and it works very well once

R you've trained it properly.

   I started collecting spam a few years ago, and I use a Bayesian filter
   called ifile to handle junk.  I trained it using just over 117,000 crapmail
   messages, and I don't get a lot of spam these days...

   http://www.dnaco.net/~vogelke/Software/Internet/Servers/Mail/Spam/Ifile/

  
I highly recommend ASSP. It's by far the best spam filter I've ever used 
and my clients are constantly raving about it's effectiveness. It's also 
extremely easy to configure and maintain. Check it out at 
http://assp.sourceforge.net/ .


Regards,
Elvar

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freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Elvar

Hi there,

I'm sharing my experiences with this in the hopes that it saves someone 
else many many hours of troubleshooting and headaches. A client of mine 
has a Dell Poweredge tower server with FreeBSD 6-stable on it which was 
acting as their firewall. At some point in time about 6 months ago the 
box started locking up every day or couple of days. I imagine this was 
probably after a buildworld / installworld but I can't remember. It 
would hard lock with nothing logged or any sign of anything, and no 
response from the keyboard. In my experiences this usually resulted in 
bad memory but after swapping out the memory for new memory the issue 
still persisted. As time went on I eventually pulled the hard drives out 
of the server and put them into another server with completely different 
hardware (minus the transfered hard drives). After bringing the install 
up on the other server I still had the hard locks. I googled like mad 
and tried all sorts of things to narrow down the problem but kept coming 
up with nothing. Now, I admit I'm not an elite user so I'm sure lots of 
you could probably have figured it out quicker. Eventually I put new 
hard drives into the original firewall (the Dell Poweredge) and did a 
clean install of FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE. Unfortunately after bringing the 
box online as the firewall again it continued locking up. I then updated 
to -STABLE and still experienced the issue. Finally, after even more 
countless hours of googling I found this thread 
http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1 
http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1  
which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person 
mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not having 
a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing and it's 
been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup.


It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been 
taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like it 
is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out.



Kind regards,
Elvar

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Re: /var/log/messages filling up with DHCPDISCOVER messages

2007-10-08 Thread Jeff Royle

Stephen Allen wrote:

/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf is configured with

 log-facility local7;

and /etc/syslog.conf is also configured with

 local7.*  /var/log/dhcpd.log

However, /var/log/messages is filling up with DHCPDISCOVER / no free
leases messages for those clients that are unknown to the DHCP server
(eg. on a different subnet).  I suspect that these messages are being
caught by *.notice which is why they end up in /var/log/messages.

Is there a way to prevent this happening?


You could try filtering them out of syslog like so (in your syslogd.conf):

local7.!=notice  /var/log/dhcpd.log

Which should log everything for local7 except notice. See man syslog.conf(5)

Cheers,

Jeff Royle
lists dot qwirky dot net
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Re: help: the Input problem

2007-10-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:23:01AM +0800, ronggui wrote:

  I use scim as my input.
 
 When I use bash as my login shell, I add these lines to ~/.profile
 
 export LANG=zh_CN.eucCN
 export LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN
 export G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
 export G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK
 export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM'
 scim -d
 
 All is fine. But I would like to use tcsh as my login shell, and try to  add
 the followings to ~/.login_conf
 
 me:\
 :lang=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :charset=gbk:\
 :setenv=LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :setenv=LC_COLLATE=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :setenv=LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :setenv=LC_MESSAGES=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :setenv=LC_MONETARY=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :setenv=LC_NUMERIC=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :setenv=LC_TIME=zh_CN.eucCN:\
 :setenv=G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1:\
 :setenv=G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK:\
 :setenv=XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM:
 
 and add scim -d to the ~/.xsession. I can't toggle on the scim.
 
 PS: I login in with kdm.
 
 What should I do to use tcsh as  my login shell?

Change the last field in your /etc/passwd entry  to '/bin/tcsh'
and make sure /bin/tcsh is listed in /etc/shells

You can then put whatever you want to set for your account
in your   /home_directory_path/.cshrc   file

jerry

 
 Thanks
 
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 Department of Sociology, Fudan University, Shanghai, China
 
 Department of Public and Social Administration, CityU, HK
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Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for open office)

2007-10-08 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 07/10/2007 à 19:18:04-0700, Christopher Cowart a écrit
 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:10:56AM +, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
  I finally got around to compiling abiword and I get the following when
  I try to run it:
  
   abiword
  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
  
   uname -a
  FreeBSD monsert 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Oct  7
  20:47:51 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER  amd64
  
  I don't want to bother with attempting to figure out why it broke.
  My question is since it looks like I am stuck with Tex is there any
  wyswyg editors for it?
 
 I've heard good things about kile (editors/kile), but have never used it
 on FreeBSD. It's also from the KDE folks, so you might be waiting a long
 time for all libraries to compile.

Kile is not a wyswyg for TeX editors. 

Kile is a application to allow you make TeX more easly thant vi file.tex
but you always enter directly tex commands. 

IMHO TeX is not so hard to learn. TeX/LaTeX become very hard when you want
do something very fine. And in that case it's simple the other software
(like OpenOffice/Word/etc.) just can do that.

For me TeX is the best for formating some documents. All my documents is in
TeX (well in fact in LaTeX) or in ... ascii.


Regards.
--
Albert SHIH
Observatoire de Paris Meudon
SIO batiment 15
Heure local/Local time:
Lun 8 oct 2007 17:27:56 CEST
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Re: Update on data corruption with Tyan/3Ware

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Boyd
Following up so that the archives will have the resolution:  Bad  
RAM.  Turns out that there were about 20 bytes in the third GB of the  
four in the system that would spit out garbage data when read back.


Thanks to everyone on the list and 3Ware support for their suggestions.

--Chris
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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:36:05AM +0200, Pieter de Goeje wrote:
 On Sunday 07 October 2007, Gary Kline wrote:
  First, thank to both you and Bart for your cmments.  You were
  *right* about the price.  Can I assume that a ballpark would be
  400W for each server?  (My wife is right: I've got to cut back to
  three computers:-)  I've found one APC 2200VA with a 17minute
  uptime.  3 times 400W, yes?
 
 I think this is overkill. Some time ago I was wondering the same thing and to 
 verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a VA/Watts 
 meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per server idle 
 and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. of 180watts for 
 less than a second. The servers are simple dual cores with about 2 harddisks 
 each. (no screens or other devices attached) Also, the powerfactor was ~0,95 
 so that means that for every Watt of apparent power (VA) almost a Watt of 
 real power was used. Thus, for my servers I would need something like a 
 500Watt/600VA UPS.
 
 So my advice is: don't guess but measure.
 


Thanks a lot.  I was thinking of doing something like this;
maybe an ammeter to see how much power each server draws; then
(possiibly add a bit for reserve).  

I'm looking at this as a long-time project.  Not rushing to do
something completely foolish.  So the more accuracy, the better!

gary



 Cheers,
 Pieter de Goeje
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Re: zero copy tcp send

2007-10-08 Thread Bruce Cran

Wojciech Puchar wrote:

i found sendfile(2) doing this.
but the question - does normal write(2) doing this when sending from 
user process memory, not file?


does memory have to be aligned special way,like to page boundary?



Yes - see zero_copy(9)

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Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Elvar wrote:

Hi there,

snip
http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1 
http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1  
which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person 
mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not having 
a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing and it's 
been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup.


It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been 
taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like it 
is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out.


Hi,
What hardware is this? Sounds very similar to something I've seen too, 
if it's the samt issue I can confirm it is happening in -CURRENT also.


Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option 
(debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone?


Per olof
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Re: hard drive testing...

2007-10-08 Thread Bruce Cran

Gary Kline wrote:

Last question for today.  Well,  hopefullly.  Is bonnie++
the only meeans of testing a hard drive?  I thought thre was
something you had to put on a floppy to be able to test more
thoroughly.
This had been awhile ago... maybe ~5 years.

thanks, people,

gary



All recent drives support SMART - to test a drive you can install 
sysutils/smartmontools and use smartctl to run a test e.g


smartctl -t long /dev/ad0

There are various different tests you can run, including surface tests, 
online and offline etc.


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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Rob

Pieter de Goeje wrote:
verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a VA/Watts 
meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per server idle 
and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. of 180watts for 


I've got one of these:  
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001


Works nicely for measuring cumulative power usage.  APC's web site also has a 
selector with very model-specific power consumption figures:
http://www.apc.com/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm

 -Rob
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Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Yuri Pankov

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 19:43 +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
 Elvar wrote:
  Hi there,
 snip
  http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1 
  http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1  
  which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person 
  mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not having 
  a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing and it's 
  been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup.
  
  It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been 
  taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like it 
  is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out.
 
 Hi,
 What hardware is this? Sounds very similar to something I've seen too, 
 if it's the samt issue I can confirm it is happening in -CURRENT also.
 
 Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option 
 (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone?
 
 Per olof

This might be the answer:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-July/075180.html

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Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Kris Kennaway

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Elvar wrote:

Hi there,

snip
http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1 
http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765page=1pp=1  
which seemed to describe the same freezing I was having. One person 
mentioned setting debug.mpsafenet=0 in /boot/loader.conf and not 
having a problem since doing so. Well, I ended up doing the same thing 
and it's been about 25 days with not one freeze / lockup.


It's my understanding that the ability to even disable this has been 
taken out of 7.x, I only can hope that it's not an issue in 7.x like 
it is on some systems in 6.x. So anyway, I hope this helps someone out.


Hi,
What hardware is this? Sounds very similar to something I've seen too, 
if it's the samt issue I can confirm it is happening in -CURRENT also.


Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option 
(debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone?


Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and 
holding back further development.


If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the 
necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. 
Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect anyone 
to fix your problems.


Kris

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Re: Jails and freebsd-update

2007-10-08 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:13:34 -0400 Vinny wrote:

 I'm setting up a server for mail and web.  I want to
 put each in their own jail on a host system.  I have installed
 6.2-Release on the host and successfully used freebsd-update
 to grab up to -p8.  So far so good.

 Now, I was going to install the jails using the standard
 way (man jail):

 JAIL=/path/to/jail
 cd /usr/src
 mkdir -p $JAIL
 make world DESTDIR=$JAIL
 make distribution DESTDIR=$JAIL

 and so forth.

 But then it occurred to me that freebsd-update says
 it only works on installations that haven't been
 built from source.

 My question then is how can I use freebsd-update with
 jails?

 Thanks for any help.

Seems that you are looking for sysutils/ezjail.


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amd64_set_gsbase()

2007-10-08 Thread Mihai Donțu
Hi,

I have a small amd64 program that makes havy use of LDT (%GS to be more
specific). The trouble is, in a multithreaded environment, the selector
value gets lost (or reset?).

The code *always* segfaults with this stack:
  4 LWP 100126  0x000800dec07c in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
* 3 Thread 0x517000 (runnable)  0x00080055cfbc in ?? ()
  2 Thread 0x517400 (LWP 100125)  0x000800c0d85c in pthread_testcancel () 
from /lib/libpthread.so.2
  1 Thread 0x517800 (runnable)  0x000800d5d000 in makecontext () from 
/lib/libc.so.6

at this instruction:
  0x00080055cfbc: mov%gs:0x10,%r11

  (gdb) p $gs
  $1 = 0

I've been reading on the net something about the kernel not preserving the GS
across syscalls (or stmh). Is this true? and if so, is there a known workaround?

I'm on a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE-200706 (AMD64) machine.

Thanks,

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Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Elvar wrote:

Hi there,

snip

snip


Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option 
(debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone?


Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and 
holding back further development.


If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the 
necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. 
Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect anyone 
to fix your problems.


Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no 
dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging?


I would post more information if I knew how to get it.

Per olof
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Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Kris Kennaway

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Elvar wrote:

Hi there,

snip

snip


Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option 
(debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone?


Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and 
holding back further development.


If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the 
necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. 
Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect 
anyone to fix your problems.


Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no 
dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging?


 I would post more information if I knew how to get it.

Of course, and it's documented in the above place.  Did you read it yet?

Kris
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Re: amd64_set_gsbase()

2007-10-08 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 08 October 2007 02:35 pm, Mihai Donțu wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a small amd64 program that makes havy use of LDT (%GS to
 be more specific). The trouble is, in a multithreaded environment,
 the selector value gets lost (or reset?).

 The code *always* segfaults with this stack:
   4 LWP 100126  0x000800dec07c in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
 * 3 Thread 0x517000 (runnable)  0x00080055cfbc in ?? ()
   2 Thread 0x517400 (LWP 100125)  0x000800c0d85c in
 pthread_testcancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 1 Thread 0x517800
 (runnable)  0x000800d5d000 in makecontext () from
 /lib/libc.so.6

 at this instruction:
   0x00080055cfbc: mov%gs:0x10,%r11

   (gdb) p $gs
   $1 = 0

 I've been reading on the net something about the kernel not
 preserving the GS across syscalls (or stmh). Is this true? and if
 so, is there a known workaround?

 I'm on a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE-200706 (AMD64) machine.

Yes, you are correct.  A short version is don't do that.  A long 
version goes like this.  %fs and %gs are not preserved while context 
switching on amd64.  In fact, you should not use amd64_set_gsbase() 
directly.  If you *really* have to mess up with base addresses, you 
have to use sysarch(2) syscall, i.e., sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, 
args).  However, it only changes the base address via MSR, i.e., %gs 
itself has no meaning.

Jung-uk Kim
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Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Elvar wrote:

Hi there,

snip

snip


Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this option 
(debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone?


Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and 
holding back further development.


If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining the 
necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a PR. 
Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect 
anyone to fix your problems.


Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no 
dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging?

 
  I would post more information if I knew how to get it.

Of course, and it's documented in the above place.  Did you read it yet?


I've used that information on other occasions but then at least the 
keyboard was functional. Not sure how to interpret what is says in a 
proper fashion, I could guess of course: What I see is termed a 
deadlock? I'll definitely try that one on this little bugger then.


Thanks,

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Re: freezing, hard locking, and debug.mpsafenet=0

2007-10-08 Thread Kris Kennaway

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

Elvar wrote:

Hi there,

snip

snip


Could someone familiar with -CURRENT perhaps explain why this 
option (debug.mpsafenet=0) is gone?


Because it was an obsolete option that was complicating the code and 
holding back further development.


If you are seeing bugs, you need to follow through with obtaining 
the necessary debugging (see the developers handbook), then submit a 
PR. Note that if you don't do this then you cannot reasonably expect 
anyone to fix your problems.


Kris, if a system locks up completely (does not take any input, no 
dumps, just stop) is there anything one can do in terms of debugging?

 
  I would post more information if I knew how to get it.

Of course, and it's documented in the above place.  Did you read it yet?


I've used that information on other occasions but then at least the 
keyboard was functional. Not sure how to interpret what is says in a 
proper fashion, I could guess of course: What I see is termed a 
deadlock? I'll definitely try that one on this little bugger then.


Yes.  Break to DDB, then proceed.

Kris
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software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello,

Sorry for an unusual request - does anyone know of software that is
able to split an mp3 file into multiple chunks at specified locations
(doesn't have to have gui, actually best if it didn't), one that works
under FreeBSD?

I have files with a few songs in them and I would like to cut them
into separate files. Never been there nor done that. All advice
greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much!

Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread D Hill

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 at 22:49 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:


Hello,

Sorry for an unusual request - does anyone know of software that is
able to split an mp3 file into multiple chunks at specified locations
(doesn't have to have gui, actually best if it didn't), one that works
under FreeBSD?

I have files with a few songs in them and I would like to cut them
into separate files. Never been there nor done that. All advice
greatly appreciated.


I don't know of any non-gui. However, I've been using Audacity 
(/usr/ports/audio/audacity) doing just what you are looking to do. The 
/usr/ports/audio/audacity port is a little dated as the latest stable 
version at http://audacity.sourceforge.net is 1.2.6. The one in the ports 
is at v1.2.4. However, I have the beta v1.3.3 loaded from the 
/usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel and have not had any issues thus far.

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Re: software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:49 PM 10/8/2007, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hello,

Sorry for an unusual request - does anyone know of software that is
able to split an mp3 file into multiple chunks at specified locations
(doesn't have to have gui, actually best if it didn't), one that works
under FreeBSD?

I have files with a few songs in them and I would like to cut them
into separate files. Never been there nor done that. All advice
greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much!

Zbigniew Szalbot


There may be better ways, but you can uuencode the file then use split.

You can do a man on uuencode, uudecode and split.

-Derek

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Re: software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
2007/10/8, D Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I don't know of any non-gui. However, I've been using Audacity
 (/usr/ports/audio/audacity) doing just what you are looking to do. The
 /usr/ports/audio/audacity port is a little dated as the latest stable
 version at http://audacity.sourceforge.net is 1.2.6. The one in the ports
 is at v1.2.4. However, I have the beta v1.3.3 loaded from the
 /usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel and have not had any issues thus far.


Thanks a lot!

I am in the process of cutting the files into separate songs :)

Regards,

Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: hard drive testing...

2007-10-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 06:45:01PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
  Last question for today.  Well,  hopefullly.  Is bonnie++
  the only meeans of testing a hard drive?  I thought thre was
  something you had to put on a floppy to be able to test more
  thoroughly.
  This had been awhile ago... maybe ~5 years.
 
  thanks, people,
 
  gary
 
 
 All recent drives support SMART - to test a drive you can install 
 sysutils/smartmontools and use smartctl to run a test e.g
 
 smartctl -t long /dev/ad0
 
 There are various different tests you can run, including surface tests, 
 online and offline etc.
 

Well sir,

Endless thanks due here!  These are utilities that I will print
and study the man pages to, c.   bonnie++ ran last night and very
heavily loaded the system; it came up clean.  I'm now running the
second (every-4-hours) smartctl test.  The first run that you 
sugggested above also showed no errors.  Great that these
utilities work with SCSI because that will be my next install on
my DNS server.  Meanwhile, I've added this to my
sysadmin-knowledge-base kit.

gary


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Re: amd64_set_gsbase()

2007-10-08 Thread Mihai Donțu
On Monday 08 October 2007, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
 Yes, you are correct.  A short version is don't do that.  A long 
 version goes like this.  %fs and %gs are not preserved while context 
 switching on amd64.

But this makes emulation software such as Wine a lost hope, doesn't it?
Because Windows apps access the Thread Information Block (TIB) via %gs
(%fs on ia32).

Anyway, my so called small program is actually a Win64 emulator and
I need the segment selector to stay put across syscalls. It works
like a charm on single threaded apps, but as soon as I spawn a thread,
all hell breaks loose :)

I've managed to come up with something that *kind of* works. It goes
like this:

void my_handler( int s )
{
if ( s == SIGSEGV ) {
if ( get_gs() == 0 ) {
amd64_set_gsbase();
} else {
signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL );
}
}
}

int my_init( void )
{
/* alloc TIB memory and initialize */

amd64_set_gsbase( lpTIB );
signal( SIGSEGV, my_handler );

return 0;
}

but after a series of dlopen()-s, my_handler() is called without %gs
being zero and without a valid fault (the handler does not get recalled
after signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL ). I'm still working on this aspect ...

 In fact, you should not use amd64_set_gsbase() 
 directly.  If you *really* have to mess up with base addresses, you 
 have to use sysarch(2) syscall, i.e., sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, 
 args).

I found this: /usr/src/lib/libc/amd64/sys/amd64_set_gsbase.c:32

int
amd64_set_gsbase(void *addr)
{
return (sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, addr));
}


and this (man 2 sysarch()): The sysarch() system call should never be
called directly by user programs.  Instead, they should access its
functions using the architecture-dependent library.

Who am I suppose to believe? :)

 However, it only changes the base address via MSR, i.e., %gs  
 itself has no meaning.

Maybe, but the selector loaded in %gs *does* have meaning.

Anyway, the thing is I _have_ to make this work. I'll keep you posted ;)

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Re: amd64_set_gsbase()

2007-10-08 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 08 October 2007 06:00 pm, Mihai Donțu wrote:
 On Monday 08 October 2007, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
  Yes, you are correct.  A short version is don't do that.  A
  long version goes like this.  %fs and %gs are not preserved while
  context switching on amd64.

 But this makes emulation software such as Wine a lost hope, doesn't
 it? Because Windows apps access the Thread Information Block (TIB)
 via %gs (%fs on ia32).

It was discussed many times on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Anyway, my so called small program is actually a Win64 emulator
 and I need the segment selector to stay put across syscalls. It
 works like a charm on single threaded apps, but as soon as I spawn
 a thread, all hell breaks loose :)

Yup, that's expected. ;-)

 I've managed to come up with something that *kind of* works. It
 goes like this:

 void my_handler( int s )
 {
 if ( s == SIGSEGV ) {
 if ( get_gs() == 0 ) {
 amd64_set_gsbase();
 } else {
 signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL );
 }
 }
 }

 int my_init( void )
 {
 /* alloc TIB memory and initialize */

 amd64_set_gsbase( lpTIB );
 signal( SIGSEGV, my_handler );

 return 0;
 }

 but after a series of dlopen()-s, my_handler() is called without
 %gs being zero and without a valid fault (the handler does not get
 recalled after signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL ). I'm still working on
 this aspect ...

That does not work, i.e., %gs vs. base address mapping is not 
preserved on FreeBSD/amd64 as I said.  You can probably maintain some 
mapping table, though.

  In fact, you should not use amd64_set_gsbase()
  directly.  If you *really* have to mess up with base addresses,
  you have to use sysarch(2) syscall, i.e.,
  sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, args).

 I found this: /usr/src/lib/libc/amd64/sys/amd64_set_gsbase.c:32
 
 int
 amd64_set_gsbase(void *addr)
 {
 return (sysarch(AMD64_SET_GSBASE, addr));
 }
 

 and this (man 2 sysarch()): The sysarch() system call should never
 be called directly by user programs.  Instead, they should access
 its functions using the architecture-dependent library.

 Who am I suppose to believe? :)

Sorry, my bad. :-(

  However, it only changes the base address via MSR, i.e., %gs
  itself has no meaning.

 Maybe, but the selector loaded in %gs *does* have meaning.

In long mode, we don't really care about segment registers.  While 
implementing TLS for Linuxulator, I had to do the following hack, for 
example:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20070336.l2U06LA1075891

Under Linux and Windows, they do preserve segment registers vs. base 
addresses mapping for backward compatibility, AFAIK with some 
performance penalty.

Jung-uk Kim

 Anyway, the thing is I _have_ to make this work. I'll keep you
 posted ;)
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Question about rc-scripts

2007-10-08 Thread Stephen Allen

Under normal circumstance, should the /etc/rc.subr functions handle the
creation of the pid at service start?

The basic vendor-provided script (which I've had to adapt somewhat to
suit this installation) runs echo $!  ${dbgw_pidfile} as the last
line of the script.  When you do a 'status' command though, it blanks
out the contents of the pid.  That echo line isn't present in any of the
standard scripts - hence my initial question.

Apart from variable assignments, the script defines 'start_cmd' (which I
assume is used as the start command by rc.subr).  Strange that I
couldn't find any reference to start_cmd in /etc/rc.subr though.

So, my question is, why isn't the pidfile being automagically created?

Many thanks,
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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:05:17PM -0400, Rob wrote:
 Pieter de Goeje wrote:
 verify my guess on the overall power usage of my servers I bought a 
 VA/Watts meter (EUR. 39,-). Turns out average wattage is about 90watts per 
 server idle and max 130watts under load. On powerup they will use a max. 
 of 180watts for 
 
 I've got one of these:  
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001
 
 Works nicely for measuring cumulative power usage.  APC's web site also has 
 a selector with very model-specific power consumption figures:
 http://www.apc.com/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm
 

Outstanding; thanks++ for the URL for the watt/amp/volt/Hz/VA
meter.  I just ordred one.   Also for the  ups_selector page.  
I'll need help getting the daemon and getting everything squared
away, but that's months away.

gary


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Re: Question about rc-scripts

2007-10-08 Thread Derek Ragona

At 05:45 PM 10/8/2007, Stephen Allen wrote:

Under normal circumstance, should the /etc/rc.subr functions handle the
creation of the pid at service start?

The basic vendor-provided script (which I've had to adapt somewhat to
suit this installation) runs echo $!  ${dbgw_pidfile} as the last
line of the script.  When you do a 'status' command though, it blanks
out the contents of the pid.  That echo line isn't present in any of the
standard scripts - hence my initial question.

Apart from variable assignments, the script defines 'start_cmd' (which I
assume is used as the start command by rc.subr).  Strange that I
couldn't find any reference to start_cmd in /etc/rc.subr though.

So, my question is, why isn't the pidfile being automagically created?

Many thanks,
Steve


Not all scripts create a pid file is the simple answer.

Your script should create the pid file on start, remove it on stop, and 
simply cat that file on a status.  If you want help with your script, post 
it, and I'm sure one of us will give you a hand.


-Derek

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Re: amd64_set_gsbase()

2007-10-08 Thread Mihai Donțu
On Tuesday 09 October 2007, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
 In long mode, we don't really care about segment registers.  While 
 implementing TLS for Linuxulator, I had to do the following hack, for 
 example:
 
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20070336.l2U06LA1075891
 
 Under Linux and Windows, they do preserve segment registers vs. base 
 addresses mapping for backward compatibility, AFAIK with some 
 performance penalty.

Ah! But you are doing your magic _in the kernel_. I don't have this luxury :)
I have to do everything in user space (as a normal user) on an out-of-the-box
FreeBSD (-stable).

I have *one* more question: maybe I don't fully understand the hole BASE thing,
but since the FreeBSD kernel does not preserve %gs and %fs, what is the purpose
of amd64_set_XXbase()?

Thanks,

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Re: Question about rc-scripts

2007-10-08 Thread Stephen Allen

Hi Derek,


Not all scripts create a pid file is the simple answer.


I didn't see how the isc-dhcpd script or dovecot created a pid, so I
assumed it was something that rc.subr took care of.

Your script should create the pid file on start, remove it on stop, and 
simply cat that file on a status.  If you want help with your script, 
post it, and I'm sure one of us will give you a hand.


Again, I thought the rc.subr functions took care of all that for you
(unless you wanted something special from those commands).

I've posted the script (changed quite a lot from vendor supplied) at:
http://www.pastebin.ca/730238

If you (or anyone) were to suggest changes, I would very much appreciate
the reasons why, so I can learn.

Many thanks,
Steve

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Re: Question about rc-scripts

2007-10-08 Thread Philip M. Gollucci



Again, I thought the rc.subr functions took care of all that for you
(unless you wanted something special from those commands).
  

In general, they do
see /etc/rc.subr:
   check_pidfile(),
   wait_for_pids(),

Most binaries i.e. httpd, memcached, mysqld, etc... provide a config 
file or cli option to provide the path to a pid file.
If you look in the ports tree a lot of the patches are putting this in 
the appropriate location: /var/run


The rc.subr then just uses them.

In general this system is very flexible.  It breaks down if you wanted 
to run say 2 distinct memcached daemons on different ports with 
different pid files

via the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/script


I've posted the script (changed quite a lot from vendor supplied) at:
http://www.pastebin.ca/730238
  


Your particular problem is that run_rc_command actually exists so that 
the script exists with the correct return code generally that of what 
the application

in question returns from trying to start or stop.

Inless you have a reason, If you're running a daemon, you shouldn't need 
to background the command.


Also, rather then an echo try adding -x to the shebang line.



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Re: Question about rc-scripts

2007-10-08 Thread Philip M. Gollucci

Philip M. Gollucci wrote:

Your particular problem is that run_rc_command actually exists so that
the script exists with the correct return code generally that of what
the application
in question returns from trying to start or stop.
  

s/exists/exits/g in the above.

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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Rob

Gary Kline wrote:

Outstanding; thanks++ for the URL for the watt/amp/volt/Hz/VA
	meter.  I just ordred one.   Also for the  ups_selector page.  


Glad to help.  When you're experimenting with the meter, remember that 
for many devices you need to plug it in for a couple days to average out 
the load.  Like a refrigerator, where the defrost only kicks in every 
few days.  No so big a deal on computers, but you'll still get more 
accurate numbers.  I saw one online review of the thing where the author 
was testing devices for less than an hour at a time, which is NOT going 
to give any accurate results.


Some of my discoveries:  CRTs that don't go into low power mode suck 
obscene amounts of power.  Refrigerators aren't as bad a you might 
think.  Most the draw in a residence is the HVAC.


I'll send you (off list) a spreadsheet I was using to track stuff.

  -Rob
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Re: software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

 Sorry for an unusual request - does anyone know of software that is
 able to split an mp3 file into multiple chunks at specified locations
 (doesn't have to have gui, actually best if it didn't), one that works
 under FreeBSD?

Not sure what you call specified location, is that at certain time?
the sox (from the ports) is your friend. If you want to automatically
detect the blank in between the songs, then I have no answer.

I use sox to split 2.5 hours mp3 into one hour chunks because that
stupid mp3 reader does not save the hour position, only the minute
position: dont buy Philips mp3 :)

Olivier
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courier-authlib problems.

2007-10-08 Thread Tankko
I upgraded one of my servers to courier-authlib-base-0.60.0 from .59
and I am now getting the following errors in my mail log:

Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthvchkpw.so not found, required by authdaemond
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthpam
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installation complete: authpam
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthldap
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthldap.so not found, required by authdaemond
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthmysql
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthmysql.so not found, required by authdaemond
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthpgsql
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthpgsql.so not found, required by authdaemond

and

Oct  8 18:11:33 myserver.net  imapd-ssl: couriertls: connect:
error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
Oct  8 18:12:07 myserver.net  imapd-ssl: couriertls: connect:
error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number

Thunderbird (OSX) has doesn't seem to care, but the iphone is now
unable to get email.  I am using SSL to get mail via imap.

I have a 2nd server that has not been upgraded to .60 yet, and it
works fine.  But...the upgraded server has:

courier-authlib-base-0.60.0 =   up-to-date with port

and the non-upgraded server has:

courier-authlib-0.59.3 needs updating (port has 0.60.0)
courier-authlib-base-0.59.3needs updating (port has 0.60.0)
courier-authlib-vchkpw-0.59.3  needs updating (port has 0.60.0)

I am assuming the upgraded server had these three ports as well before
the upgrade, but I can not be 100% sure.  I always kept these 2 severs
running the same versions of everything, so I assume they were.

Anyone know how to fix this?

Tankko
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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Rob wrote:


think.  Most the draw in a residence is the HVAC.


what is this? HVAC?

Erich
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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Bart Silverstrim



Erich Dollansky wrote:

Hi,

Rob wrote:


think.  Most the draw in a residence is the HVAC.


what is this? HVAC?


Heating and air conditioning, I believe.  No?
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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Ray
On Monday 08 October 2007 8:36:39 pm Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,

 Rob wrote:
  think.  Most the draw in a residence is the HVAC.

 what is this? HVAC?

Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning

 Erich
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Re: wyswyg editors for tex (was re: replacement for openoffice)

2007-10-08 Thread Frank Jahnke
 From what little experience I have with PS and *roff the idea of
 hacking inline embedded languages just for typesetting sounds stupid
 beyond belief 

You have to learn one of the troff macro packages.  -ms is the easiest,
but I agree that a wysiwyg document processor is just easier for this
purpose.  I'm agnostic about this one, and use Abiword (which I have
never had any issues compiling, and do install all of the plug-ins),
TextMaker, OO.o, Word or WP.  For this purpose it does not really matter
much, and I have all installed, either natively or in a virtual machine.

For technical or scientific writing, though, there is nothing that can
replace TeX or troff unless you invest a lot of money into adjunct
programs for Word.  Even then you still wind up with an ugly document.
Sometimes that does not matter (like business letters) but hey, I'm a
perfectionist and want my documents to look good in addition to
containing good information.

FWIW, my typical scientific article has over 100 references (which
change as the document is written), a lot of partial differential
equations and their solutions, graphs, chemistry, tables, images (like
photomicrographs), and so forth.  For that troff and TeX are the only
way to go unless you want to spend a considerable amount of money for
Word add-ins.  By itself Word is not that good, but an ecosystem has
developed around it to make it workable.  And it is the standard.

I'll stand by my basic recommendation.  For everyday use and Word
compatibility, buy TextMaker (and PlanMaker if you use spreadsheets).
For the heavy lifting use TeX (or LaTeX or LyX) or troff and its
pre-processors and macro packages.

 and since all the more traditional (sorry I do not think of any
 inline text language as being traditional)

Here you are misguided.  The text formatters *are* the traditional way
to process documents.  In fact, Unix existed only because its commercial
justification was the text processing system.  And that was built on
DEC's runoff (with its embedded codes), which the Unix fellows
abbreviated to roff, which became nroff for fixed-width character
devices, and troff for typesetters.

It took WordStar to change that paradigm (there are many other ones, of
course, but WS was the gorilla in the late 1970s and early 1980s).

Frank

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Re: software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread r
Hi,

If you really want non-gui (though, also with gui-support),
audio/mp3splt, as it almost spells, is the exact one for you.

You should have found it by something like:

  make seach key='mp3.*split'

in /usr/ports directory.


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At Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:18:31 +0200,
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 
 2007/10/8, D Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I don't know of any non-gui. However, I've been using Audacity
  (/usr/ports/audio/audacity) doing just what you are looking to do. The
  /usr/ports/audio/audacity port is a little dated as the latest stable
  version at http://audacity.sourceforge.net is 1.2.6. The one in the ports
  is at v1.2.4. However, I have the beta v1.3.3 loaded from the
  /usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel and have not had any issues thus far.
 
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 I am in the process of cutting the files into separate songs :)
 
 Regards,
 
 Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread r
Hi,

If you really want non-gui (though, also with gui-support),
audio/mp3splt, as it almost spells, is the exact one for you.

You should have found it by something like:

  make seach key='mp3.*split'

in /usr/ports directory.

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At Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:18:31 +0200,
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 
 2007/10/8, D Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I don't know of any non-gui. However, I've been using Audacity
  (/usr/ports/audio/audacity) doing just what you are looking to do. The
  /usr/ports/audio/audacity port is a little dated as the latest stable
  version at http://audacity.sourceforge.net is 1.2.6. The one in the ports
  is at v1.2.4. However, I have the beta v1.3.3 loaded from the
  /usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel and have not had any issues thus far.
 
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 I am in the process of cutting the files into separate songs :)
 
 Regards,
 
 Zbigniew Szalbot
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Upgrade of PHP4

2007-10-08 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

I noticed that PHP4 port has been having some vulnerabilities for some
time now.

Will there be a correction relased any soon?

Best regards,

Olivier
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Re: what kind of UPS will work best?

2007-10-08 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Ray wrote:

On Monday 08 October 2007 8:36:39 pm Erich Dollansky wrote:

Hi,

Rob wrote:

think.  Most the draw in a residence is the HVAC.

what is this? HVAC?


Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning


move the machine around to be used for heating during winter.

Compared to that PCs are a minor consumer.

Erich
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Re: Upgrade of PHP4

2007-10-08 Thread Olivier Nicole
 Doubtful, given the fact that php4 will reach EOL December 31. You 
 should plan on upgrading to php5.

Thanks, now that lads to the second question, what will I break when
updating? What should I be carefull about? I have several servers,
managing quite many sites, with a lot of home made pages...

TIA,

Olivier
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Re: Upgrade of PHP4

2007-10-08 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Monday 08 October 2007, Olivier Nicole said:
 Hi,

 I noticed that PHP4 port has been having some vulnerabilities for
 some time now.

 Will there be a correction relased any soon?

 Best regards,

 Olivier

Doubtful, given the fact that php4 will reach EOL December 31. You 
should plan on upgrading to php5.

Beech
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Re: Upgrade of PHP4

2007-10-08 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Monday 08 October 2007, Olivier Nicole said:
  Doubtful, given the fact that php4 will reach EOL December 31.
  You should plan on upgrading to php5.

 Thanks, now that lads to the second question, what will I break
 when updating? What should I be carefull about? I have several
 servers, managing quite many sites, with a lot of home made
 pages...

 TIA,

 Olivier

It should be ok with most current apps, but I would run them on a test 
server first if it's something mission critical. Php's site has 
migration info (http://www.php.net) which should be helpful for 
custom scripts. Also the vendor sites should let you know if they 
will work with php5. I haven't run into anything that won't in quite 
a while, but your mileage may vary :-)

You will need to completely remove php4 and ALL extensions then 
rebuild them with php5. FWIW, their site says that they will still 
have critical patches for a while, but all official support stops at 
the end of December.

Beech

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Re: software to cut mp3 files?

2007-10-08 Thread r
Hi,

If you really want non-gui (though, also with gui-support),
audio/mp3splt, as it almost spells, is the exact one for you.

You should have found it by something like:

  make seach key='mp3.*split'

in /usr/ports directory.


-- 
R. Hara


At Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:18:31 +0200,
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 
 2007/10/8, D Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I don't know of any non-gui. However, I've been using Audacity
  (/usr/ports/audio/audacity) doing just what you are looking to do. The
  /usr/ports/audio/audacity port is a little dated as the latest stable
  version at http://audacity.sourceforge.net is 1.2.6. The one in the ports
  is at v1.2.4. However, I have the beta v1.3.3 loaded from the
  /usr/ports/audio/audacity-devel and have not had any issues thus far.
 
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 I am in the process of cutting the files into separate songs :)
 
 Regards,
 
 Zbigniew Szalbot
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RE: courier-authlib problems.

2007-10-08 Thread Terry Sposato
Tankko,

I am having these exact same problems with courier as well. I upgraded the
system a couple of days ago and courier-imap-pop3d-ssl works fine with
clients such as Outlook, but I get the same errors with Evolution as an
e-mail client. It works fine using pop3d without ssl so it is definitely
something screwed with the ssl part. Not exactly sure and haven't been able
to track it down.



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Subject: courier-authlib problems.

I upgraded one of my servers to courier-authlib-base-0.60.0 from .59
and I am now getting the following errors in my mail log:

Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthvchkpw.so not found, required by authdaemond
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthpam
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installation complete: authpam
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthldap
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthldap.so not found, required by authdaemond
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthmysql
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthmysql.so not found, required by authdaemond
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Installing libauthpgsql
Oct  8 18:21:47 myserver.net authdaemond: Shared object
libauthpgsql.so not found, required by authdaemond

and

Oct  8 18:11:33 myserver.net  imapd-ssl: couriertls: connect:
error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
Oct  8 18:12:07 myserver.net  imapd-ssl: couriertls: connect:
error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number

Thunderbird (OSX) has doesn't seem to care, but the iphone is now
unable to get email.  I am using SSL to get mail via imap.

I have a 2nd server that has not been upgraded to .60 yet, and it
works fine.  But...the upgraded server has:

courier-authlib-base-0.60.0 =   up-to-date with port

and the non-upgraded server has:

courier-authlib-0.59.3 needs updating (port has 0.60.0)
courier-authlib-base-0.59.3needs updating (port has 0.60.0)
courier-authlib-vchkpw-0.59.3  needs updating (port has 0.60.0)

I am assuming the upgraded server had these three ports as well before
the upgrade, but I can not be 100% sure.  I always kept these 2 severs
running the same versions of everything, so I assume they were.

Anyone know how to fix this?

Tankko
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