Re: IBM Thinkpad 755C and FreeBSD's minimal hardware requirements - still usable?
Not a long time ago I got an old Thinkpad 600. With 300MHz and 165MB Ram. Also the same challenge - small and fast ports for daily work. I run X11 with fluxbox (installed without! hal support). Recommendable ports are: Opera (smaller then Firefox) or even Elinks (there is a setting 'graphic mode'). Mutt for e-mails, vim (also gvim) is my text editor - it replaces word processing software. Centerim for instant messaging (instead of pidgin). Axyftp is a fast ftp-client, also for X11. Generally all the motif-programs are small and fast. For a few bucks I got the PCMCIA-Card TP-Link TL-WN610G. It works perfect, but only without hal. And my battery lasts easily over three hours, almost four with just a text editor running. Maybe you go for a bigger harddisk? Costs a few bucks and will have enough space for BSD 7.2 (what I use) and some of the ports? Compiling your own kernel and cleaning out the kernel source and the distfiles of the ports is also a good idea.. Cheers herb langhans On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 06:47:27AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: Dear list, I'm about to try something strange. Recently, I got back my IBM Thinkpad 755C. It's from ca. 1995, has a 486 processor at 75 MHz, 20 MB RAM and a 640x480x256 display. The hard disk is 330 MB, but I have a 500 MB disk that I want to use. Use for what? FreeBSD, of course. Allthough this device is quite old, the battery lasts 3 hours. I'm not joking, I tried it. The laptop contains two PCCARD (PCMCIA) slots for expansions. A floppy disk drive is built in, as well as audio (builtin microphone and speaker, connectors for line in and headphones). On the back, there are connectors for VGA, serial (9 pin), and parallel, as well as for some kind of docking station. There's no USB and no CD drive. Here's my question: Is it, under any circumstances, possible to run FreeBSD on this configuration in order to have a portable and lightweight (in regards of software) diagnostic computer? I thought about putting in a PCCARD based NIC (I have a Realtek one that works well with FreeBSD), as well as a WLAN card. On the software side I would think about CLI tools mostly, but it would be great to run X (even at this limited screen, but there's always the option of using a bigger virtual desktop). Programs should include a web browser, mail client, and finally a network traffic diagnostic tool, such as Wireshark (ex Ethereal). I had FreeBSD 4 running on this device from floppy for testing purposes, so I know I have to pay attention to the fact that the keyboard needs to be flagged as XT (not AT) - very stange. I had FreeBSD 4 running on a 486/60 Toshiba T2130ct with 8 MB RAM in the past, but I'm using this one now for programming Motorola mobile radios. It's builtin trackpoint is not working anymore, but the Thinkpad's is in perfect condition, so I have a good pointing device. Furthermore, the Thinkpad's keyboard is excellent, compared to the Toshiba and to modern notebooks with their floppy-sloppy keys. Is this imaginable at all? Any ideas, comments or suggestions are appreciated. PS. Of course I would buy one of those modern Netbooks to have the same effect, but why buy when the stuff I have arund anywill will work, too? I know, I'm just plain mean, and I diskike the Netbook's nearly unusable keyboards as well as the absence of a proper pointing device (the ugly slimy fingerprint-glidepad is no solution). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS: Strange performance issues
Hello, I'm running FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 on a system with 2GB RAM. I've a zfs pool using raidz1 over five 2Tb SATA drives connected via a port multiplier and a RR2314 card. I can write to a filesystem on this pool at approx 20MB/s: # dd if=/dev/urandom of=$FS/testdump bs=1m count=1k 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 47.096440 secs (22798790 bytes/sec) and zpool iostat -v is consistent with this capacity operationsbandwidth pool used avail read write read write -- - - - - - - films 6.37T 2.69T 11440 53.2K 23.0M raidz16.37T 2.69T 11440 53.2K 23.0M da0 - - 1214 88.2K 5.58M da1 - - 1209 88.6K 5.58M da2 - - 1211 76.0K 5.70M da3 - - 1213 88.6K 5.77M da4 - - 1213 88.6K 5.71M -- - - - - - - However, the read behaviour is strange: dd if=$FS/testdump of=/dev/null bs=1m count=1k 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 40.392055 secs (26582996 bytes/sec) but here, zpool iostat -v is odd: capacity operationsbandwidth pool used avail read write read write -- - - - - - - films 6.37T 2.69T 1.52K 0 194M 0 raidz16.37T 2.69T 1.52K 0 194M 0 da0 - -420 0 48.2M 0 da1 - -274 0 24.0M 0 da2 - -270 0 24.4M 0 da3 - -418 0 48.4M 0 da4 - -418 0 48.4M 0 -- - - - - - - Notice that dd was reading at ~27MB/s, but zfs is reading from the vdev at ~200MB/s. Also odd is that fact the reduced read rates for da1, da2. I'm struggling to understand what's happening to the extra data being read. The most likely scenario seems to be that ZFS is inflating its read size, knowing that it won't delay the transfer significantly, and hoping to pull in some useful data to the cache. However, it's either failing the cache this data correctly, or the file is highly non-contiguous, and the extra data read doesn't contain anythign useful to out read. I'm also somewhat surpised by the poor performance of the pool. From memory, when it was first configured (on identical hardware and software), I could write at ~130MB/s and read at ~200MB/s. Once conclusion is that the pool is suffering from something akin to fragmentation, perhaps with files always being allocated from very small blacks. The vast majority of the data comprises large (~1Gb) files, that are written to one 'import' pool, moved to the main pool, then never modified. There are however a lot (~5000) of small (1k) files that get rewritten half hourly, and I'm wondering if that might be causing problems, and confusing ZFS's block sizing algorithm. Can anyone shed any light on what might be going on, or how to further diagnose this problem. Do any of my tentative conclusions make any sense? Kind regards, Christopher Key ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
USB modem support on a FreeBSD box
I know about all the drivers being for windoz. And how we're pretty much left out in the cold. Does any solution exist? For example, if I access my USB modem via the Wine emulator, will that work? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
glabel clarification
I understood that labeling a disk with glabel would permit the disk to be switched to another system and booting from that disk would not require other manupulations than adjusting network configuration, samba, rc.conf and a few others.. But what if there is already a disk on the system with the identical labels in /dev/label/ ? I understood that whatever the actual disk might be (ad4, ad12, ad1...)would be irrelevant? It would appear that the actual booting goes according to the label; so, if there are duplicate labels the boot will not necessarily be from the newly installed disk if there is another disk with duplicate glabel labels? So doing a glabel seems superfluous... What then is the real purpose of glabel, since the boot process seems to need a unique identifier? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 05:43:44AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:23:43 -0500, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: When not using a count to indicate how much data is in a char* you should always test for null. Testing for null is not a sure fire way to prevent buffer over runs but its better than nothing. There are means like #include assert.h ... assert(s); to make sure s is not NULL, or testing for it explicitely like if(!s) ... error handling here ... You are missing my point that *s == 0 is not a good out of bounds range check. is possible. Furthermore, it is a proven way to give a length argument along with the (char *) argument, such as the new l-functions for strings, e. g. strlcat() and strlcpy(), do. char *skiptags(char *s, int l); You can even double-check for l begin != 0. Or you employ a test with strlen() function-internally. strlen() knows nothing about the buffer allocation. As I originally said, testing for null (and my example tested) is not foolproof but its better than nothing. One should *also* test for the known end of the allocated buffer. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: glabel clarification
I understood that labeling a disk with glabel would permit the disk to
be switched to another system and booting from that disk would not
require other manupulations than adjusting network configuration,
samba,
rc.conf and a few others..
But what if there is already a disk on the system with the identical
labels in /dev/label/ ?
I understood that whatever the actual disk might be (ad4, ad12,
ad1...)would be irrelevant?
It would appear that the actual booting goes according to the label;
so,
if there are duplicate labels the boot will not necessarily be from the
newly installed disk if there is another disk with duplicate glabel
labels?
So doing a glabel seems superfluous...
What then is the real purpose of glabel, since the boot process seems
to
need a unique identifier?
Switching between machines is not what labels are for.(enlighten me if
it is)
As far as understand, it makes switching the drive in the same machine
easier.
It does not matter if labels are used, that the device is seen as
/dev/ad0 or /dev/ad{x}.
This makes adding and replacing disk much easier.
Sometimes the disk numbers change when removing raid controllers or
other hardware.
Regards,
Johan
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Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:30:49PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Glen Barber writes: // comments are recognized by both C and C++. How about ... are recognized by both C++ and more recent versions of C.? I think gcc++ and gcc use the same preprocessor? Comments are stripped in the preprocessor. The only thing we can really say is that gcc accepts // as a comment. Is becoming an accepted convention in other C's but I doubt one can universally state that its accepted in all recent versions. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
Johan Hendriks wrote:
I understood that labeling a disk with glabel would permit the disk to
be switched to another system and booting from that disk would not
require other manupulations than adjusting network configuration,
samba,
rc.conf and a few others..
But what if there is already a disk on the system with the identical
labels in /dev/label/ ?
I understood that whatever the actual disk might be (ad4, ad12,
ad1...)would be irrelevant?
It would appear that the actual booting goes according to the label;
so,
if there are duplicate labels the boot will not necessarily be from the
newly installed disk if there is another disk with duplicate glabel
labels?
So doing a glabel seems superfluous...
What then is the real purpose of glabel, since the boot process seems
to
need a unique identifier?
Switching between machines is not what labels are for.(enlighten me if
it is)
As far as understand, it makes switching the drive in the same machine
easier.
It does not matter if labels are used, that the device is seen as
/dev/ad0 or /dev/ad{x}.
This makes adding and replacing disk much easier.
Sometimes the disk numbers change when removing raid controllers or
other hardware.
Here are my specifics:
I just cloned disk - ad6 from ad12...
I assume that the two are identical except for their bios assignments -
that is ad6 and ad12. Other than that they are quite identical, or
should be.
ad12 was just glabeled, so I would assume that the clone would have all
the identical information - anyway, it looks like it does.
To test things, I booted from ad12 and then from ad6 but the boot is
always from ad12 - this is evidenced from changing the motd on ad6s1a...
the fstab on both ad4 and ad12 are identical... and dmesg shows the boot
device... so, where have I erred?
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Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 09:03:22AM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:30:49PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Glen Barber writes: // comments are recognized by both C and C++. How about ... are recognized by both C++ and more recent versions of C.? I think gcc++ and gcc use the same preprocessor? Comments are stripped in the preprocessor. The only thing we can really say is that gcc accepts // as a comment. Is becoming an accepted convention in other C's but I doubt one can universally state that its accepted in all recent versions. It is accepted in recent versions of C, but not necessarily by all C compilers, depending on which version of C they support. // comments were added to C in the 1999 revision of the C standard, and was already then a very common extension that was supported by many compilers. If gcc supports // comments or not depends on which mode it is running in. If you run it in strict C89 mode, then it will not support // comments, but if you run it in C99 mode (or as a C++ compiler), it will support them. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
Johan Hendriks wrote:
I understood that labeling a disk with glabel would permit the disk to
be switched to another system and booting from that disk would not
require other manupulations than adjusting network configuration,
samba,
rc.conf and a few others..
But what if there is already a disk on the system with the identical
labels in /dev/label/ ?
I understood that whatever the actual disk might be (ad4, ad12,
ad1...)would be irrelevant?
It would appear that the actual booting goes according to the label;
so,
if there are duplicate labels the boot will not necessarily be from the
newly installed disk if there is another disk with duplicate glabel
labels?
So doing a glabel seems superfluous...
What then is the real purpose of glabel, since the boot process seems
to
need a unique identifier?
Switching between machines is not what labels are for.(enlighten me if
it is)
As far as understand, it makes switching the drive in the same machine
easier.
It does not matter if labels are used, that the device is seen as
/dev/ad0 or /dev/ad{x}.
This makes adding and replacing disk much easier.
Sometimes the disk numbers change when removing raid controllers or
other hardware.
Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am
trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update
with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent
data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it
were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the
/etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will
get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an
unique identifier for each disk.
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Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More I've been having such headaches with glabel, I didn't want to get a migraine. ;-) Actually, I don't know gmirror but will look it up and see whatit can do for me. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More because I am not using RAID. :-( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More because I am not using RAID. :-( gmirror + ggated = disk or slice replicated to remote system -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More because I am not using RAID. :-( gmirror + ggated = disk or slice replicated to remote system gmirror + ggated = disk or partition replicated to remote system -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More because I am not using RAID. :-( gmirror + ggated = disk or slice replicated to remote system -- Adam Vande More You ae trying to give me a migraine. :-) But what happens if the disks are not identical in size? Dump/restore allows for that; dump/restore will copy only the used date and not the entire partition or slice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More because I am not using RAID. :-( gmirror + ggated = disk or slice replicated to remote system -- Adam Vande More You ae trying to give me a migraine. :-) But what happens if the disks are not identical in size? Dump/restore allows for that; dump/restore will copy only the used date and not the entire partition or slice. It depends on what your end goals is which is still not entirely clear. Do you want a disk that can be unplugged from a machine and used to boot immediately in your orginal system in case of hd failure. If yes then gmirror + ggated is the way to go. If you simply want data to be backed up on regular basis, something like rsync is easier. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 04:19:11PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 09:03:22AM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:30:49PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Glen Barber writes: // comments are recognized by both C and C++. How about ... are recognized by both C++ and more recent versions of C.? I think gcc++ and gcc use the same preprocessor? Comments are stripped in the preprocessor. The only thing we can really say is that gcc accepts // as a comment. Is becoming an accepted convention in other C's but I doubt one can universally state that its accepted in all recent versions. It is accepted in recent versions of C, but not necessarily by all C compilers, depending on which version of C they support. // comments were added to C in the 1999 revision of the C standard, and was already then a very common extension that was supported by many compilers. If gcc supports // comments or not depends on which mode it is running in. If you run it in strict C89 mode, then it will not support // comments, but if you run it in C99 mode (or as a C++ compiler), it will support them. This is my FWIW, but I use the std /* and */ in C programs and often in C++ also. It's only when I'm [1] lazy, or [2] have severe shoulder pains that I'll use the // for comments -- anywhere. This is a bit quirky, but even in my prose I'll use #ifdef/#endif and the std C comments. Very handy for sidebar comments, thoughts, work-arounds or write-around in early drafts. just my $0.02-worth, gary -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:58 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Actually, I have been trying to clone a disk and then install the disk in another machine or same clone in several machines. That's why I thought that once the clone is make it would boot on any machine. This in presuming that each clone is identical including the fstab file; I understood that this would allow immediate bootup regardless of what the disk may be ad4, ad1, ad12 or whatever. This would permit changing the necessary configurations of samba, network, etc. Now I see that it doesn't work that way. I can still clone the disk but then just have to find what disk is the clone. Are all the systems identical? If so, make sure cabling is identical as well then gmirror clone would work as well. Also my understanding of glabel is different than mentioned above. As long as fstab mounts the glabel location eg /dev/ufs/label it should be portable across systems since that info is stored as meta data on the drive. What does your fstab look like? -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:46 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes, this is true and that is why I thought that glabel would work; I am trying to set up my computers with identical clones that I can update with changes on the master machine from time to time and thus prevent data loss in case of problems. So I use ad12 as the main system; if it were to crash I would then boot from ad6 which is identical. But the /etc/fstab is identical in both machines. So if I boot from ad6, I will get booted from ad12 ... so that doesn't work. It looks like we need an unique identifier for each disk. Why not use gmirror? -- Adam Vande More because I am not using RAID. :-( gmirror + ggated = disk or slice replicated to remote system -- Adam Vande More You ae trying to give me a migraine. :-) But what happens if the disks are not identical in size? Dump/restore allows for that; dump/restore will copy only the used date and not the entire partition or slice. It depends on what your end goals is which is still not entirely clear. Do you want a disk that can be unplugged from a machine and used to boot immediately in your orginal system in case of hd failure. If yes then gmirror + ggated is the way to go. If you simply want data to be backed up on regular basis, something like rsync is easier. -- Adam Vande More Actually, I have been trying to clone a disk and then install the disk in another machine or same clone in several machines. That's why I thought that once the clone is make it would boot on any machine. This in presuming that each clone is identical including the fstab file; I understood that this would allow immediate bootup regardless of what the disk may be ad4, ad1, ad12 or whatever. This would permit changing the necessary configurations of samba, network, etc. Now I see that it doesn't work that way. I can still clone the disk but then just have to find what disk is the clone. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: usb key problem
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 08:06:08PM -0400, PJ wrote:
Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:19:16 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote:
[snip...]
Anyway, I found the solution on the web... couldn't belive it was that
simple: just ignore the crap spewed out on the screen and just mount iit
as you would any other disk.
# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt
and that's it
I don't know if it makes any difference, but I did delete everything on
the key and formatted with Fat32. That got rid of everything and only
took up 4k instead of 32 when not formatted and I could put my own label
on the disk.
Yea!
Now to see how I can use it to restore stuff. :-D
The SanDisk keys include two devices, a umass disk device and and usb
psuedo CD-ROM drive. The CD-ROM drive only works properly in windows. It
doesn't work in FreeBSD and throws errors at key-insertion time.
Downthread a poster suggested putting a FreeBSD filesystem on this drive:
# newfs /dev/da0
# mount /dev/da0 /mnt
The advantage to this is that you get full FreeBSD filesystem sematics
from the drive. The disadvantage is that you have to make sure to
umount it before unplugging it in. If you don't umount it you will be
asked to fsck it on next insert. I don't find the disadvantage that
heinous so I keep a few sticks around with UFS filesystems on them. If
you choose to use UFS here's two things that are really helpful:
Use a label so your drive doesn't appear in different places. When you
make your filesystem ensure that you put a unique (to you) label on
it:
# newfs -L my_usb_stick /dev/da0
# mount /dev/ufs/my_usb_stick /mnt
Use amd to mount the stick rather than doing it manually. Amd is
designed to automatically mount and dismount transient filesystems. It
was originally built with NFS filesystems involved but it adapts well
to UFS filesystems on transient devices with a workaround. I use the
following configuration spread through three files:
$ cat /etc/amd/amd.conf
[ global ]
search_path = /etc/amd
auto_dir = /.amd
cache_duration = 30
## log_file = syslog:daemon
## log_options = fatal,error
print_pid = yes
pid_file = /var/run/amd.pid
restart_mounts = yes
[ /media ]
map_name = /etc/amd/media.map
$ cat /etc/amd/media.map
## --
## Create a map that will allow mounts of appropriately labeled
## UFS filesystems. We have to use the 'program' mount type
## because amd predates hot-pluggable removable storage. Thus amd
## will never timeout a volume that it knows is UFS.
/default type:=program
* rfs:=/dev/ufs/${key};fs:=${autodir}/${key};\
mount:=/sbin/mount mount -o nodev,noexec ${rfs} ${fs};\
unmount:=/sbin/umount umount ${rfs}
$ grep ^amd /etc/rc.conf
amd_enable=YES# Run amd service with $amd_flags (or NO).
amd_flags=-F /etc/amd/amd.conf
Those three config snippets pretty much do it for me. The first sets
some parameters on how amd runs. The second tells amd how to manage
the /media directory which is where you usb stick(s) will show up. It
also has the workaround. As noted above amd knows about UFS mounts but
for some reason it never times them out. Using the 'program'
filesystem gets around that. The third is the portion of /etc/rc.conf
that automatically starts amd using the config above. I created a
directory in /etc: /etc/amd to manage everything in one place. The
mount is done without exec and without devices for security
reasons.
The technique works for any transient filesystem. USB, Firewire,
eSata. With this configuration users can force a mount an attached the
above filesystem, my_usb_stick, by doing the following:
$ ls -l /media/my_usb_stick
Note well that you can do this as a normal user. The filesystem will
be automatically unmounted in 30 seconds. If you want to unmount the
filesystem forcefully you can do:
$ amq -u /media/my_usb_stick
Again note that you don't have to transistion to root to do the
unmount.
This works well for me. Your mileage may vary.
-- Chris
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Building Ghostscript from source on FreeBSD
I'm having trouble building Ghostscript 8.70 from source on FreeBSD 7.0. I cannot use the version in the ports tree for various reasons. I've looked at the .mak patches in ./files/ for the ports tree however to try to suss out any differences but they elude me. My configure line: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/imagemagick-6.5.6 --disable-cups --disable-gtk --disable-cairo --disable-fontconfig --without-libpaper --without-pdftoraster --without-ijs --without-jbig2dec --without-jasper --without-omni --without-x --with-drivers=BMP,FAX,JPEG,PNG,PS,TIFF The error I receive building: gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wdeclaration-after-statement -fno-builtin -fno-common -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DGX_COLOR_INDEX_TYPE=unsigned long long -I./base -o ./obj/genconf ./base/genconf.c gcc: ./base/genconf.c: No such file or directory gcc: No input files specified ./base/genconf.c exists. Executing the gcc command on its own is successful, yet the build can't continue even with ./obj/genconf existing. `make -d A` reaches the failure with: Examining ./base/stdpn.h...modified 18:23:38 Jun 05, 2007...up-to-date. Examining ./obj/genconf...non-existent...modified before source (/home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c)...out-of-date. ./obj/genconf: = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c ./obj/genconf:? = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c ./obj/genconf: = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h ./obj/genconf:? = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h ./obj/genconf: = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpn.h ./obj/genconf:? = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpn.h cc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wdeclaration-after-statement -fno-builtin -fno-common -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DGX_COLOR_INDEX_TYPE=unsigned long long -I./base -o ./obj/genconf ./base/genconf.c cc: ./base/genconf.c: No such file or directory cc: No input files specified Why is it that it believes ./obj/genconf is nonexistent, and then proceeds to fail while it has no problems with anything else up to that point? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 01:48:42AM -0400, Brad Mettee wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
Guys,
maybe this can't be done reading in a file with fgets(buffer[128], fp),
then calling skiptags(), conditionally, to while () past ',' and ''.
I know I need to calll skipTags with its address, skipTags(buffer);, but
then how to i
handle the variable s in skipTags? Anybody?
// redo, skip TAGS
skipTags((char *)s)
{
if (*s == '')
{
while (*s != '')
{
s++;
}
s++;
}
}
Your function may not work exactly as you think it will. Your basic idea
runs on the assumption that the tag will never be broken during the file
read. It's possible that you'll read some dataTag begin and the next
read will have more data heretag ends, or some variation thereof.
If you know for a fact that the string you read in will always be
complete, then what's below should work fine:
// where *s is the address of a string to be parsed
// maxlen represents the maximum number of chars potentially in the string
and is not zero based (ie: maxlen 256 = char positions 0-255)
// *curpos is the current position of the pointer (this prevents bounds
errors)
skipTags(char *s, long maxlen, long *curpos)
{
if (*s == '')
{
while (*s != '' *s *curpos maxlen)
{
s++;
(*curpos)++;
}
if (*curpos maxlen)
{
s++;
(*curpos)++;
}
}
}
When you read in the next line of the file, reset curpos to zero, set
maxlen to number of bytes read. As you process each char after the
function is called, you'll need to increment curpos as well.
Depending on the size of the files you are reading, you may be able to
read the entire file into memory at once and avoid any possible TAG
splitting.
If you explain exactly what you're trying to accomplish, we may be able
to come up with an easier/cleaner solution.
(warning: none of the above code is tested, but in concept it should
work ok)
It didn't core dump, but neither work. Basically, I'm doing a read via
fgets:
while(fgets(buf, sizeof buf, fp_in)) {
an HTML or other file with TAGS. Optionally, say, given the switch
-N,
the program would NOT progress any of the HTML tags; It would only
touch other
stuff in the file. Simply put, I have a fixed buffer, buf[1024], that
I want to
change --i think by-reference-not certain-by calling
skiptags(*buf); and skiptags() would read past the WHATEVER=7
FOO=6 BAR=Times
and return the buffer to the place after fgets() where skiptags(buf)
is called
missing all markup TAGS.
I'm better at by-refernce with ints that chars, so I don't know how far
off I am
here. That's why I;'m asking you guys.
gary
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Re: glabel clarification
Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:58 AM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Actually, I have been trying to clone a disk and then install the disk in another machine or same clone in several machines. That's why I thought that once the clone is make it would boot on any machine. This in presuming that each clone is identical including the fstab file; I understood that this would allow immediate bootup regardless of what the disk may be ad4, ad1, ad12 or whatever. This would permit changing the necessary configurations of samba, network, etc. Now I see that it doesn't work that way. I can still clone the disk but then just have to find what disk is the clone. Are all the systems identical?� If so, make sure cabling is identical as well then gmirror clone would work as well. Also my understanding of glabel is different than mentioned above.� As long as fstab mounts the glabel location eg /dev/ufs/label it should be portable across systems since that info is stored as meta data on the drive. What does your fstab look like? # DeviceMountpointFStypeOptionsDumpPass# /dev/label/swapnoneswapsw00 /dev/label/rootfs/ufsrw11 /dev/label/backups/backupsufsrw22 /dev/label/home/homeufsrw22 /dev/label/tmp/tmpufsrw22 /dev/label/usr/usrufsrw22 /dev/label/var/varufsrw22 /dev/acd0/cdromcd9660ro,noauto00 linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 this is ad12; ad6 is the same - I guess I hae to get rid of those labels in ad6 but am not sure if I need to use glabel to remove them or if just editing fstab will do it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pf+time stamp
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Re: pf+time stamp
Dánielisz László wrote: Hello, Do you have any idea how to add and read time stamp of pf/pf.log? Thank you! Laci Do you mean /var/log/pflog ? Which is the default location where a record of logged packets ends up if you run pflogd(8). That's actually a pcap (packet capture) file, and you can read it using tcpdump: # tcpdump -r /var/log/pflog Each packet is recorded with a high resolution timestamp that tcpdump will display for you -- like this naughty chap suffering the consequences of trying to brute-force my ssh daemon just before 1:00pm today: 12:52:44.891373 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: . ack 2991958242 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 2 9319378 1107347817,[|tcp] 12:52:45.516283 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209319535 1107347817 12:52:48.387822 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209320253 1107347817 12:52:54.131863 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209321689 1107347817 12:52:57.113810 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: . ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209322434 1107347817,[|tcp] 12:53:05.620251 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209324561 1107347817 12:53:28.597524 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209330305 1107347817 12:54:14.550822 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209341793 1107347817 12:55:46.457353 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: F 0:0(0) ack 1 win 1460 nop,nop,timestamp 209364769 1107347817 13:00:15.032146 IP customer-201-134-103-165.uninet-ide.com.mx.2316 happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk.ssh: R 1230911050:1230911050(0) win 1460 Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
See comments interspaced below -
Gary Kline wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 01:48:42AM -0400, Brad Mettee wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
Guys,
maybe this can't be done reading in a file with fgets(buffer[128], fp),
then calling skiptags(), conditionally, to while () past ',' and ''.
[snipped]
It didn't core dump, but neither work. Basically, I'm doing a read via
fgets:
while(fgets(buf, sizeof buf, fp_in)) {
an HTML or other file with TAGS. Optionally, say, given the switch
-N,
the program would NOT progress any of the HTML tags; It would only
touch other
stuff in the file. Simply put, I have a fixed buffer, buf[1024], that
I want to
change --i think by-reference-not certain-by calling
skiptags(*buf); and skiptags() would read past the WHATEVER=7 FOO=6
BAR=Times
and return the buffer to the place after fgets() where skiptags(buf)
is called
missing all markup TAGS.
I'm better at by-refernce with ints that chars, so I don't know how far
off I am
here. That's why I;'m asking you guys.
Gary,
Let me restate your problem: You want to read through a file containing tags
delimited by and to skip these tags if the user has run your command with
the -N flag.
In C any thing passed by address is by reference. For a your static buffer
of 1024 characters: you can pass it by reference as:
skiptags(buf); /* passes in the starting address of the buffer */
skiptags(buf[0]); /* passes in the starting address of the buffer */
skiptags(buf[10]); /* passes int the starting address of the buffer
at the 11th character position. */
Arrays and pointers are always by reference. Individual data types int,
char, etc are by value unless passed in as a pointer. I think this is where
your confusion is around.
A couple of things to keep in mind:
1. Remember how fgets() works. It is entirely possible that you might have
tags that span multiple lines. You will need to take that into account.
2. You can manipulate the fixed buffer two different ways:
A. You can use pointer arithemtic, eg.
char buf[1024];
char *cp;
while ((cp = fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), fp_in))) {
if (skiptags) cp = skiptag(buf);
/* If NULL, end of line reached */
if (!cp) continue;
}
char *skiptags(char *buf)
{
char *tp = buf;
/* find the start of a tag */
while (*tp != '\0' *tp++ != '');
/* if no tag is found return start of buffer */
if (*tp == '\0')
return buf;
/* Start of tag, find the end of tag */
while (*tp != '\0' *tp != '\n' *tp++ != '');
/* if end of line reached return NULL */
if (*tp == '\0' || *tp == '\n')
return NULL;
/* return the next character start after the end tag */
return ++tp;
}
B. Using indexing, eg.
char buf[1024];
int i, bsize;
while (fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), fp_in)) {
i = 0;
bsize = strlen(buf);
if (skiptags) i = skiptag(buf);
/* If NULL, end of line reached */
if (i = bsize) continue;
}
int skiptags(char *buf)
{
int c = 0;
/* find the start of a tag */
while (buf[c] != '\0' buf[c] != '')
c++;
/* if no tag is found return start of buffer */
if (buf[c] == '\0')
return 0;
/* Start of tag, find the end of tag */
while (buf[c] != '\0' buf[c] != '\n' buf[c] != '')
c++;
/* if end of line reached return NULL */
if (buf[c] == '\0' || buf[c] == '\n')
return strlen(buf);
/* return the next character start after the end tag */
return ++c;
}
Both methods should allow you to skip past any tags found in the file (provided
you handle the case of a tag spanning more than one line).
Hope this clears up your confusion and gets you on your way.
Patrick
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Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: # DeviceMountpointFStypeOptionsDumpPass# /dev/label/swapnoneswapsw00 /dev/label/rootfs/ufsrw11 /dev/label/backups/backupsufsrw22 /dev/label/home/homeufsrw22 /dev/label/tmp/tmpufsrw22 /dev/label/usr/usrufsrw22 /dev/label/var/varufsrw22 /dev/acd0/cdromcd9660ro,noauto00 linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 this is ad12; ad6 is the same - I guess I hae to get rid of those labels in ad6 but am not sure if I need to use glabel to remove them or if just editing fstab will do it? You need to use gmirror. If you get it to clone a disk following these instructions http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html the disk will boot up on the new machine no problem provided hardware compatibility. Get rid of any label/fstab work you've done so far and follow that page. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
I've installed FreeBSD 7.2 with Xorg 7.4 server, but mouse (usb) and keyboard don't work. when I start X server the only way to exit is Ctrl-Alt-F* and kill the process. I've find out that Xorg now uses hal and dbus to configure mouse and maybe this is a problem. #tail /var/log/messages Oct 19 22:10:14 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs Oct 19 22:10:14 freebsd kernel: drm0: [ITHREAD] Oct 19 22:10:34 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Num pipes: 1 Oct 19 22:35:02 freebsd hald[48486]: 22:35:02.636 [E] hald_dbus.c:5747: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Loading R500 Microcode Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Num pipes: 1 Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: drm0: [ITHREAD] Oct 19 22:36:09 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Num pipes: 1 When I start hald (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start) it don't tell anything, even in verbose mode, except of: #/usr/local/sbin/hald --verbose=yes 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:669: hal 0.5.11 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:678: Will daemonize 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:679: Becoming a daemon But: #ps aux | grep hal mutex 68396 0.0 0.1 1660 1060 p0 D+ 10:48PM 0:00.00 grep hal So I think it doesn't starts. This is my xorg.conf (generated by `Xorg -configure): --- Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevises off EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module # Load dbe # Load dri # Load dri2 # Load extmod Load glx # Load record EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName RV515 [Radeon X1300] BusID PCI:4:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection - Any help will be greatly appreciated ... -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
Andrey Zhidenkov wrote: I've installed FreeBSD 7.2 with Xorg 7.4 server, but mouse (usb) and keyboard don't work. when I start X server the only way to exit is Ctrl-Alt-F* and kill the process. I've find out that Xorg now uses hal and dbus to configure mouse and maybe this is a problem. It will probably work fine if you add the following two lines into /etc/rc.conf and reboot: dbus_enable=YES hald_enable=YES Have a look at the updated Handbook section that describes this procedure in more detail: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sendmail domain configuration
I am trying to work around some design issues. Some of out FreeBSD macines must live in a made up domain. As a result from these machines gtes discarded by an sensible mail handling system. I have solved this problem on some Soalris machines that also si`uffer from this same design by settting the doamin macro in thier sendmail.cf as follows: Dj$w.realdomain.com OI know that in FreeBSD I should not edit sendmail.cf directly, but instead should edit the appropriate .mc file, and remake the .cf file. But I cannot find the documentation as to how to set this particular sendmail macro from the .mc file Can anyou give me some guidance here? -- One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:30:27PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Andrey Zhidenkov wrote: I've installed FreeBSD 7.2 with Xorg 7.4 server, but mouse (usb) and keyboard don't work. when I start X server the only way to exit is Ctrl-Alt-F* and kill the process. I've find out that Xorg now uses hal and dbus to configure mouse and maybe this is a problem. It will probably work fine if you add the following two lines into /etc/rc.conf and reboot: dbus_enable=YES hald_enable=YES I've added yet, but it doesn't helps ;(. And when I reboot I can't found any hald or dbus messages in dmesg. Have a look at the updated Handbook section that describes this procedure in more detail: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html Thank you, I've readed. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
Andrey Zhidenkov wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:30:27PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Andrey Zhidenkov wrote: I've installed FreeBSD 7.2 with Xorg 7.4 server, but mouse (usb) and keyboard don't work. when I start X server the only way to exit is Ctrl-Alt-F* and kill the process. I've find out that Xorg now uses hal and dbus to configure mouse and maybe this is a problem. It will probably work fine if you add the following two lines into /etc/rc.conf and reboot: dbus_enable=YES hald_enable=YES I've added yet, but it doesn't helps ;(. And when I reboot I can't found any hald or dbus messages in dmesg. Have a look at the updated Handbook section that describes this procedure in more detail: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html Thank you, I've readed. I also noticed you have a ServerFlags section with AutoAddDevices off Could you try removing this and see if it works? You may in fact try running X without an xorg.conf at all. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail domain configuration
stan wrote: I am trying to work around some design issues. Some of out FreeBSD macines must live in a made up domain. As a result from these machines gtes discarded by an sensible mail handling system. I have solved this problem on some Soalris machines that also si`uffer from this same design by settting the doamin macro in thier sendmail.cf as follows: Dj$w.realdomain.com OI know that in FreeBSD I should not edit sendmail.cf directly, but instead should edit the appropriate .mc file, and remake the .cf file. But I cannot find the documentation as to how to set this particular sendmail macro from the .mc file Can anyou give me some guidance here? /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README documents what you can put into a sendmail .mc file. The specific thing you want is: define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `$w.realdomain.com')dnl Add this to the `hostname`.mc file, and then just type 'make' in /etc/mail to generate a .cf file from it. To generate and install that .cf file and restart sendmail to use it all in one, just do: # make all install restart Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Building Ghostscript from source on FreeBSD
Brent Bloxam wrote: I'm having trouble building Ghostscript 8.70 from source on FreeBSD 7.0. I cannot use the version in the ports tree for various reasons. I've looked at the .mak patches in ./files/ for the ports tree however to try to suss out any differences but they elude me. My configure line: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/imagemagick-6.5.6 --disable-cups --disable-gtk --disable-cairo --disable-fontconfig --without-libpaper --without-pdftoraster --without-ijs --without-jbig2dec --without-jasper --without-omni --without-x --with-drivers=BMP,FAX,JPEG,PNG,PS,TIFF The error I receive building: gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wdeclaration-after-statement -fno-builtin -fno-common -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DGX_COLOR_INDEX_TYPE=unsigned long long -I./base -o ./obj/genconf ./base/genconf.c gcc: ./base/genconf.c: No such file or directory gcc: No input files specified ./base/genconf.c exists. Executing the gcc command on its own is successful, yet the build can't continue even with ./obj/genconf existing. `make -d A` reaches the failure with: Examining ./base/stdpn.h...modified 18:23:38 Jun 05, 2007...up-to-date. Examining ./obj/genconf...non-existent...modified before source (/home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c)...out-of-date. ./obj/genconf: = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c ./obj/genconf:? = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c ./obj/genconf: = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h ./obj/genconf:? = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h ./obj/genconf: = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpn.h ./obj/genconf:? = /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/genconf.c /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpre.h /home/build/ghostscript-8.70/./base/stdpn.h cc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wdeclaration-after-statement -fno-builtin -fno-common -DHAVE_STDINT_H -DGX_COLOR_INDEX_TYPE=unsigned long long -I./base -o ./obj/genconf ./base/genconf.c cc: ./base/genconf.c: No such file or directory cc: No input files specified Why is it that it believes ./obj/genconf is nonexistent, and then proceeds to fail while it has no problems with anything else up to that point? Solved. Looks like building Ghostscript explicitly requires gmake ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mailx folder-hook
Hi,
First off I know this isn't the place for this question and it is
totally off topic, but I have been searching the internet for ages and
have read the relevant section of the man page a number of times and
tried a number of combination and I still can't figure this out. I am
asking here because of all the forum/mailing lists that I see this one
is one of the most knowledgable so someone here will probably know the
answer.
I have been using heirloom mailx to get some work based imap email,
and I want to use it to read the questions here too, since it is
easier. However there is quite a lot of traffic and I would like to
filter mail but I can't get it to work.
in my .mailrc I have the following:
## gmail imap account
account ml {
## open inbox
set folder=imaps://u...@imapserver/Inbox
}
## set up mail filters
## move freebsd questions mail the the freebsd_questions folder
define freebsd_questions {
move (text freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) @freebsd_questions
}
set folder-hook-imap://davidcollins00...@imap.gmail.com/Inbox=freebsd_questions
All mail gets delivered and if I type 'call freebsd_questions' all the
mail gets moved, but it won't do it when I login. Does anyone have any
ideas about what I am doing wrong?
David
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Re: Fwd: upgrading remote server
Okay! After a lot of googling/reading I successfully upgraded to 7.2, now I'm trying to upgrade ports... I ran portmaster -L and got a long list of ports that need upgrading... From my reading, it seems like the only way to do this is to go through the list, one by one, and either (1) delete unused ports or (2) upgrade ports that seem to need it. This is going to take quite a bit of time... am I missing something (other than the fact that I should have been doing this all along?) -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fwd: upgrading remote server
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: Okay! After a lot of googling/reading I successfully upgraded to 7.2, now I'm trying to upgrade ports... I ran portmaster -L and got a long list of ports that need upgrading... From my reading, it seems like the only way to do this is to go through the list, one by one, and either (1) delete unused ports or (2) upgrade ports that seem to need it. This is going to take quite a bit of time... am I missing something (other than the fact that I should have been doing this all along?) man portmaster -- John -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
scalable FreeBSD based LNS (with L2TPv2)
Has anyone created/used/found/seen a FreeBSD based LNS that supports thousands L2TPv2 tunnels? Right now, the only solution I see that scales to this level is Redback, and if not a Redback box, then lots of Cisco 7200 boxes. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to add me as a friend: scubac...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scalable FreeBSD based LNS (with L2TPv2)
Rogelio wrote: Has anyone created/used/found/seen a FreeBSD based LNS that supports thousands L2TPv2 tunnels? Right now, the only solution I see that scales to this level is Redback, and if not a Redback box, then lots of Cisco 7200 boxes. I understand MPD (ports/net/mpd5) is used in large scale deployments. I've only ever used it as a proof of concept though, (for which it worked great, sadly they went for a pair of 7200s instead.) Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Andrey Zhidenkov wrote: I've installed FreeBSD 7.2 with Xorg 7.4 server, but mouse (usb) and keyboard don't work. when I start X server the only way to exit is Ctrl-Alt-F* and kill the process. I've find out that Xorg now uses hal and dbus to configure mouse and maybe this is a problem. xorg-server uses if configured to use hal. When I start hald (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start) it don't tell anything, even in verbose mode, except of: #/usr/local/sbin/hald --verbose=yes 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:669: hal 0.5.11 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:678: Will daemonize 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:679: Becoming a daemon But: #ps aux | grep hal mutex 68396 0.0 0.1 1660 1060 p0 D+ 10:48PM 0:00.00 grep hal So I think it doesn't starts. dbus_enable=YES and hald_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf? This is my xorg.conf (generated by `Xorg -configure): --- Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevises off EndSection That's spelled wrong. (AutoAddDevices) By turning that off, you are telling xorg-server to ignore hal detection of devices. So even if hal was running, it would be ignored. If you let xorg use hal, you can remove the InputDevice sections above and below. The Handbook section on xorg configuration is pretty thorough: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 7.2 savecore panic
Hello. I've got a small issue with my bsd box... I'm a new BSD user and please accept my deepest apologies if i have rushed to use the mailing lists to shout, what may be a silly issue. During the 3 moths the server that i manage had 2 unexpected reboots after some ports were about to be installed. The first time i wasn't paying much attention to the process and can't tell exactly what caused the panic (it was certainly a port install related) but i've paid close attention to this 2nd time. The server runs FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0 on a amd64 arch and it cracked when i tried to install portmanager from the /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmanager tree and using the basic 'make install clean' command. Previously i've made the steps of updating the portsnap collection in order to keep my box up2date. Out of nowhere bsd crashed and using google i've managed to get some info about crash logs: ./messages:Oct 20 00:13:25 pgn savecore: reboot after panic: page fault /var/crash/info.0 Dump header from device /dev/ad10s1b Architecture: amd64 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 426561536B (406 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Thu Sep 10 18:36:20 2009 Hostname: pvp.ro Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Panic String: page fault Dump Parity: 2499253002 Bounds: 0 Dump Status: good pgn# uname -a FreeBSD pgn.ro 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 saw some other topic related to issues like this and they pointed out tinkering the rc.conf:dumpdev=AUTO rc.conf:savecore_flags= But if i would prolly knew what i'm to do i wouldn't write this long dumb help request :) What's wrong with my bsd box (witch i'm in love so much now) and how can i prevent it from panicking ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:09:19AM -0700, Patrick Mahan wrote:
See comments interspaced below -
Gary,
Let me restate your problem: You want to read through a file containing tags
delimited by and to skip these tags if the user has run your command
with
the -N flag.
In C any thing passed by address is by reference. For a your static
buffer
of 1024 characters: you can pass it by reference as:
skiptags(buf); /* passes in the starting address of the buffer */
skiptags(buf[0]); /* passes in the starting address of the
buffer */
skiptags(buf[10]); /* passes int the starting address of the
buffer
at the 11th character position. */
Arrays and pointers are always by reference. Individual data types int,
char, etc are by value unless passed in as a pointer. I think this is
where
your confusion is around.
You've got it exactly right, Patrick. There were no C classes in
1978--I
taught myself. Obviously, not that well because I have already dreaded
pointers. ---Well, usually.
A couple of things to keep in mind:
1. Remember how fgets() works. It is entirely possible that you might
have
tags that span multiple lines. You will need to take that into
account.
2. You can manipulate the fixed buffer two different ways:
A. You can use pointer arithemtic, eg.
char buf[1024];
char *cp;
while ((cp = fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), fp_in))) {
if (skiptags) cp = skiptag(buf);
/* If NULL, end of line reached */
if (!cp) continue;
}
char *skiptags(char *buf)
{
char *tp = buf;
/* find the start of a tag */
while (*tp != '\0' *tp++ != '');
/* if no tag is found return start of buffer */
if (*tp == '\0')
return buf;
/* Start of tag, find the end of tag */
while (*tp != '\0' *tp != '\n' *tp++ != '');
/* if end of line reached return NULL */
if (*tp == '\0' || *tp == '\n')
return NULL;
/* return the next character start after the end tag */
return ++tp;
}
B. Using indexing, eg.
char buf[1024];
int i, bsize;
while (fgets(buf, sizeof(buf), fp_in)) {
i = 0;
bsize = strlen(buf);
if (skiptags) i = skiptag(buf);
/* If NULL, end of line reached */
if (i = bsize) continue;
}
int skiptags(char *buf)
{
int c = 0;
/* find the start of a tag */
while (buf[c] != '\0' buf[c] != '')
c++;
/* if no tag is found return start of buffer */
if (buf[c] == '\0')
return 0;
/* Start of tag, find the end of tag */
while (buf[c] != '\0' buf[c] != '\n' buf[c] != '')
c++;
/* if end of line reached return NULL */
if (buf[c] == '\0' || buf[c] == '\n')
return strlen(buf);
/* return the next character start after the end tag */
return ++c;
}
Both methods should allow you to skip past any tags found in the file
(provided
you handle the case of a tag spanning more than one line).
Hope this clears up your confusion and gets you on your way.
Your examples help a lot! Everything works except when there are two
or more
tags on one line such as:
BODY BGCOLOR=#FF LINK=#00 VLINK=#006633FONT SIZE=4
I think I see where is your skiptags--pointer arithematic
function--this can be
caught. Thanks much!
:-)
gary
Patrick
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Re: glabel clarification
Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: # DeviceMountpointFStypeOptionsDumpPass# /dev/label/swapnoneswapsw00 /dev/label/rootfs/ufsrw11 /dev/label/backups/backupsufsrw22 /dev/label/home/homeufsrw22 /dev/label/tmp/tmpufsrw22 /dev/label/usr/usrufsrw22 /dev/label/var/varufsrw22 /dev/acd0/cdromcd9660ro,noauto00 linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 this is ad12; ad6 is the same - I guess I hae to get rid of those labels in ad6 but am not sure if I need to use glabel to remove them or if just editing fstab will do it? You need to use gmirror. If you get it to clone a disk following these instructions http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html the disk will boot up on the new machine no problem provided hardware compatibility. Get rid of any label/fstab work you've done so far and follow that page. I am trying to digest the procedure. Forgive me if I am a little slow, but I want to be sure to do it right. 1. this procedure requres that both diisks be identical... ?? This is not always possible... I'm not sure I have that possibility at the moment and I don't want to empty other disks from other machines. 2. I am trying to under stand if the procedure is to be done from the active disk, say ad4 and the idea is to copy ad4 to say ad6? Or should I be running on a third disk, say ad12 and be copying ad4 to ad6? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Error when changin from -ro to rw on /etc/exports, FREEBSD STABLE 7.2
Hi folks, Today I decide to change the settings from my server, allowing RW access to 2 currently mapped NFS partions on my Freebsd box. The used to be RO only. What i notice is when I change it as follows: [root@ /DATA1]# cat /etc/exports /DATA1 -rw 192.168.11.6 /DATA2 -rw 192.168.11.6 I am not able to map them anymore from my opensolaris client. When changing back to RO, it maps correctly. All permissions are set un as 755 -R on /DATA1 and /DATA2 When on RO, it maps when requested via AutoFS perfectly: /net/192.168.11.5/DATA1 on 192.168.11.5:/DATA1 remote/read/write/nosetuid/nodevices/xattr/dev=4ec0007 on Mon Oct 19 23:09:45 2009 /net/192.168.11.5/DATA2 on 192.168.11.5:/DATA2 remote/read/write/nosetuid/nodevices/xattr/dev=4ec0008 on Mon Oct 19 23:09:46 2009 Any ideas? im sure im mistaking somewhere... :S -- () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
PHP5 + fastcgi + apache2.2 ... how to for FreeBSD?
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Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:58 PM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: # DeviceMountpointFStypeOptionsDumpPass# /dev/label/swapnoneswapsw00 /dev/label/rootfs/ufsrw11 /dev/label/backups/backupsufsrw22 /dev/label/home/homeufsrw22 /dev/label/tmp/tmpufsrw22 /dev/label/usr/usrufsrw22 /dev/label/var/varufsrw22 /dev/acd0/cdromcd9660ro,noauto00 linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 this is ad12; ad6 is the same - I guess I hae to get rid of those labels in ad6 but am not sure if I need to use glabel to remove them or if just editing fstab will do it? You need to use gmirror. If you get it to clone a disk following these instructions http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html the disk will boot up on the new machine no problem provided hardware compatibility. Get rid of any label/fstab work you've done so far and follow that page. I am trying to digest the procedure. Forgive me if I am a little slow, but I want to be sure to do it right. 1. this procedure requres that both diisks be identical... ?? This is not always possible... I'm not sure I have that possibility at the moment and I don't want to empty other disks from other machines. No if you have one smaller disk you should use that as the base mirror disk, then add the larger to the mirror. Of course there would be some unused space on the larger drive, but that usually not a problem. 2. I am trying to under stand if the procedure is to be done from the active disk, say ad4 and the idea is to copy ad4 to say ad6? Or should I be running on a third disk, say ad12 and be copying ad4 to ad6? From your example assuming ad4 is the smallest of disk sizes you use. sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=17 gmirror label -vb round-robin gm0 /dev/ad4 echo 'geom_mirror_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf Edit the /etc/fstab file shutdown -r now gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad6 wait until drives are synced. verify by gmirror status. power down. pull ad6 and insert into new system. Power it on. you are done. repeat as necessary. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Continued hassles trying to compile qt4-designer
Running FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE AMD64 machine ports src an kernel are as updated as can be .. below is the error when trying to compile... : undefined reference to `qdesigner_internal::QDesignerSharedSettings::formTemplatePaths() const' .obj/release-shared/newform.o(.text+0x5): In function `NewForm::grabForm(QDesignerFormEditorInterface*, QIODevice, QString const, qdesigner_internal::DeviceProfile const)': : undefined reference to `qdesigner_internal::NewFormWidget::grabForm(QDesignerFormEditorInterface*, QIODevice, QString const, qdesigner_internal::DeviceProfile const)' .obj/release-shared/newform.o(.text+0xcfc): In function `NewForm::NewForm(QDesignerWorkbench*, QWidget*, QString const)': : undefined reference to `QDesignerNewFormWidgetInterface::createNewFormWidget(QDesignerFormEditorInterface*, QWidget*)' .obj/release-shared/newform.o(.text+0x112c): In function `NewForm::NewForm(QDesignerWorkbench*, QWidget*, QString const)': : undefined reference to `QDesignerNewFormWidgetInterface::createNewFormWidget(QDesignerFormEditorInterface*, QWidget*)' .obj/release-shared/preferencesdialog.o(.text+0x245): In function `PreferencesDialog::PreferencesDialog(QDesignerFormEditorInterface*, QWidget*)': : undefined reference to `QDesignerFormEditorInterface::optionsPages() const' .obj/release-shared/preferencesdialog.o(.text+0x625): In function `PreferencesDialog::PreferencesDialog(QDesignerFormEditorInterface*, QWidget*)': : undefined reference to `QDesignerFormEditorInterface::optionsPages() const' /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDesigner.so: undefined reference to `QCss::Parser::parse(QCss::StyleSheet*)' *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/qt4-designer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS: Strange performance issues
Chris, Don't know, but, I will paste in a portion of the ZFS admin guide from SUN: Because these statistics are cumulative since boot, bandwidth might appear low if the pool is relatively idle. You can request a more accurate view of current bandwidth usage by specifying an interval. For example: # zpool iostat tank 2 Later it says about the -v option: You can use the same set of options (interval and count) when examining virtual device statistics. http://dlc.sun.com/pdf/819-5461/819-5461.pdf Page 95 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
If you dont need it for another reason, you can compile xorg-server without hal (#make config). Mouse and keyboard works without it too. This solved all such problems on my laptop. Cheers herb langhans On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:52:24PM +0400, Andrey Zhidenkov wrote: I've installed FreeBSD 7.2 with Xorg 7.4 server, but mouse (usb) and keyboard don't work. when I start X server the only way to exit is Ctrl-Alt-F* and kill the process. I've find out that Xorg now uses hal and dbus to configure mouse and maybe this is a problem. #tail /var/log/messages Oct 19 22:10:14 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs Oct 19 22:10:14 freebsd kernel: drm0: [ITHREAD] Oct 19 22:10:34 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Num pipes: 1 Oct 19 22:35:02 freebsd hald[48486]: 22:35:02.636 [E] hald_dbus.c:5747: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Loading R500 Microcode Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Num pipes: 1 Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs Oct 19 22:36:03 freebsd kernel: drm0: [ITHREAD] Oct 19 22:36:09 freebsd kernel: info: [drm] Num pipes: 1 When I start hald (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start) it don't tell anything, even in verbose mode, except of: #/usr/local/sbin/hald --verbose=yes 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:669: hal 0.5.11 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:678: Will daemonize 22:48:16.400 [I] hald.c:679: Becoming a daemon But: #ps aux | grep hal mutex 68396 0.0 0.1 1660 1060 p0 D+ 10:48PM 0:00.00 grep hal So I think it doesn't starts. This is my xorg.conf (generated by `Xorg -configure): --- Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevises off EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module # Load dbe # Load dri # Load dri2 # Load extmod Load glx # Load record EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName RV515 [Radeon X1300] BusID PCI:4:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection - Any help will be greatly appreciated ... -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:48:55AM -0400, PJ wrote: Bob Hall wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 05:36:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: Bob Hall wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 02:34:40AM +, Mark wrote: Actually, this has got very little to do with being a native English speaker or not. It's ere a matter of intonation (which, in writing, can only be conveyed to a certain degree, of course). 'Should' can certainly mean Don't try that. As in: Will the ice hold me? Well, technically it should. (Meaning: it probably will, but I'm not overly confident.) Actually, what's happening here is dropping part of a sentence. It's common in English to shorten Yea, it should work, but it doesn't. Absolutely not! There is nothing to suggest either statement above. If one says it should work, it can mean (of course, it changes within different contexts) that all is ok and normal conditions (whatever they may be) will allow things to function correctly. There is certainly no implication about confidence... where do you get that? From common English usage. Specifically, where? Australia, England, Russia, France, USA, Canada... Again, that is your personal interpretation and certainly not common English usage. Or better yet, try common sense. Or, better yet, you *should* go back to school. The third edition of Fowler's Modern English Usage gives British and American usage. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage concentrates more on American usage. I don't have access to any specifically Australian or Canadian reference books. Anyone interested in the topic can look up the use of should as a modal verb and see what is common usage. My compliments to the authors of the man page for their clear and concise use of English. My complements to Polytropan for spotting the fact that should was being used as a modal verb, even if he didn't call it that. My compliments to Warren Block for submitting the PR. I believe that's my cue to exit the thread. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:58:05 -0500, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 05:43:44AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: to make sure s is not NULL, or testing for it explicitely like if(!s) ... error handling here ... You are missing my point that *s == 0 is not a good out of bounds range check. That's correct. Test != NULL just ensures that it is not a NULL pointer. Range checking should always be applied additionally. strlen() knows nothing about the buffer allocation. As I originally said, testing for null (and my example tested) is not foolproof but its better than nothing. One should *also* test for the known end of the allocated buffer. Yes. That's why an additional length parameter is a good choice, as well as maybe checing every individual character, e. g. checking for validity BEFORE doing something with it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:59:43 +0200, Johan Hendriks jo...@double-l.nl wrote:
Switching between machines is not what labels are for.(enlighten me if
it is)
It CAN. If /etc/fstab content matches the labels of the
partitions, it matches them regardless of the disk they
are on (da[0123...] or ad[0123...]), so the disk can be
placed on any controller in any computer.
As far as understand, it makes switching the drive in the same machine
easier.
It does, which is obvious according to the explaination
given before. But it is not restricted to one machine.
It does not matter if labels are used, that the device is seen as
/dev/ad0 or /dev/ad{x}.
This makes adding and replacing disk much easier.
Furthermore, it gives you the chance do change the name
for a device to something human readable, e. g. the
descriptive name usrfs for ad0s1e. In different
settngs, functional file system entry points may refer
to different device nodes, depending on the current disk
layout.
Sometimes the disk numbers change when removing raid controllers or
other hardware.
That's true.
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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
Gary Kline wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:09:19AM -0700, Patrick Mahan wrote:
See comments interspaced below -
Gary,
Let me restate your problem: You want to read through a file containing tags
delimited by and to skip these tags if the user has run your command
with
the -N flag.
In C any thing passed by address is by reference. For a your static
buffer
of 1024 characters: you can pass it by reference as:
skiptags(buf); /* passes in the starting address of the buffer */
skiptags(buf[0]); /* passes in the starting address of the
buffer */
skiptags(buf[10]); /* passes int the starting address of the
buffer
at the 11th character position. */
Arrays and pointers are always by reference. Individual data types int,
char, etc are by value unless passed in as a pointer. I think this is
where
your confusion is around.
You've got it exactly right, Patrick. There were no C classes in 1978--I
taught myself. Obviously, not that well because I have already dreaded
pointers. ---Well, usually.
You are welcome, glad to help.
[examples snipped]
Your examples help a lot! Everything works except when there are two or more
tags on one line such as:
BODY BGCOLOR=#FF LINK=#00 VLINK=#006633FONT SIZE=4
I think I see where is your skiptags--pointer arithematic
function--this can be
caught. Thanks much!
If I might make a suggestion. Make use of a case (switch) statement:
switch(buf[c]) {
case '': /* start of tag, skip it if requested */
if (skiptags) c = skiptag(buf[c]);
...
default: /* handle normal stuff */
...
}
Inside your while() statement.
Good luck,
Patrick
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Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:58:18 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Actually, I have been trying to clone a disk and then install the disk in another machine or same clone in several machines. That's why I thought that once the clone is make it would boot on any machine. This in presuming that each clone is identical including the fstab file; I understood that this would allow immediate bootup regardless of what the disk may be ad4, ad1, ad12 or whatever. I think that's a possible explaination. I'm guessing: If the labels of both disks have the same names, and both disks are present at booting time, and /etc/fstab contains those labels, then maybe if both disks have identical labels, then instead from the booting disk ad6, the ad12 disk labels are used for file system mounting? The easiest way REALLY is to extract one disk from the system and use only one disk for booting tests. Let's say you've already transfered data from ad6 (source) to ad12 (target) successfully. Now unplug ad6 and let the system boot from ad12. It should work. Then, put ad12's disk to ad6's controller. So now the former ad12 is ad6. Because you're using labels, it shouldn't matter. Try to boot. Should work as well. This really is the easiest way to check. I can still clone the disk but then just have to find what disk is the clone. Clones are identical. :-) Seriously: There is a way to determine it definitely: Have a look at the UFSID class labels. They should be unique, even if glabel labels are identical. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel clarification
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:12:06 -0400, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: this is ad12; ad6 is the same - I guess I hae to get rid of those labels in ad6 but am not sure if I need to use glabel to remove them or if just editing fstab will do it? You could indicate if a given disk is your working disk (w) or your backup disk (b). A possible fstab would look like this: The working disk: /dev/label/w-swap none swap sw 0 0 /dev/label/w-rootfs / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/label/w-tmp /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/w-var /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/w-usr /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/w-home /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/w-backups /backups ufs rw 2 2 The backup disk: /dev/label/b-swap none swap sw 0 0 /dev/label/b-rootfs / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/label/b-tmp /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/b-var /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/b-usr /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/b-home /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/label/b-backups /backups ufs rw 2 2 (Note that I sorted the partitions by usage priority.) The downside is that you would have to keep a difference between /etc/fstab(w) and /etc/fstab(b). On its own, each disk will work on any controller (because of proper labels). Funny question: What happens if a system has access to two disks with labelled partitions where the labels are identical? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
Just a little and quite formal side note: On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:09:19 -0700, Patrick Mahan ma...@mahan.org wrote: while (*tp != '\0' *tp++ != ''); It's often a good choice, especially for increasing readability of code, to code the empty statement on a line on its own (as you usually put any statements on an own line for clarity), so the reader doesn't accidentally take it as and end of command notification, e. g. while(1) ; instead of while(1); which could be confused with the syntactical meaning of whatsthis(1); I'm just mentioning this because I saw this in a programming project when I was at university. A young programmer who was given the task to look at code a very skilled programmer gave him. Somewhere in the code, an endless loop caused the program not to work properly. The student could not find this endless loop because it was coded in the manner as given above. It was not the polite form of for(;;); :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:52:24 +0400, Andrey Zhidenkov andrey.zhiden...@gmail.com wrote: Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevises off ^ AutoAddDevices? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need C help, passing char buffer[] by-value....
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:21:26 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: There were no C classes in 1978--I taught myself. Obviously, not that well because I have already dreaded pointers. ---Well, usually. Don't mind. Just imagine my fun when trying to understand how character string operations work in C - coming from a Turbo Pascal background where you could compare strings with = and ! :-) (And this is from me who programmed Assembler before, what a shame...) Your examples help a lot! Everything works except when there are two or more tags on one line such as: BODY BGCOLOR=#FF LINK=#00 VLINK=#006633FONT SIZE=4 A solution could be to move artsy HTML stuff (e. g. colors, font parameters and margins) to CSS in an external file, which would not be taken into context when investigating markup. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mouse and keyboard don't work in Xorg 7.4
Allthough X is not an urgent topic to me at the moment (because I'm still running old X without all the HAL and DBUS magic), I always interestedly read such threads in order to keep up to date. On my testing system I just had the same problem. XFCE 4 started, but mouse didn't move, no keyboard input. And starting X (startx command) lasts 20 seconds, that's annoying. :-( On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:13:24 +0200, herbert langhans herbert.raim...@gmx.net wrote: If you dont need it for another reason, you can compile xorg-server without hal (#make config). The packages of X.org seem to require DBUS and HAL. I am currently running a testing environment with 8.0-RC1 and everything from packages (1,7 GHz AMD with 512 MB RAM, so no compiling joy). Mouse and keyboard works without it too. I just re-read the chapters on X in the handbook. Setting a specific keyboard language (german in my case) now involves messing with XML in the HAL configuration. I'm just keen to know where I now have to set my mouse in order to work properly. It's a three-button mouse from Sun. In the past, all X settings (resolution, mouse, keyboard, fonts etc.) could be controlled via one centralized file. Sadly, this seems to be scattered among many subsystems now... Another question, especially when running without a xorg.conf file: Where is the functionality of Option DontZap false represented? Or is it possible to run X with a partial xorg.conf file? This solved all such problems on my laptop. I hope it will solve them for me, too, when I revive my laptop. Seems that I have to do much compiling, bit I will do that on a different machine (laptop is AMD 500 MHt with 256 MB RAM). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IBM Thinkpad 755C and FreeBSD's minimal hardware requirements - still usable?
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:12:19 +0200, herbert langhans herbert.raim...@gmx.net wrote: Not a long time ago I got an old Thinkpad 600. With 300MHz and 165MB Ram. Also the same challenge - small and fast ports for daily work. I run X11 with fluxbox (installed without! hal support). Of course. Fluxbox is a very lightweight and still appealing window manager with very usable keyboard functionality. Other solutions that I would have considered lightweight (but I have to re-check the facts of today) include WindowMaker and XFCE 3. Recommendable ports are: Opera (smaller then Firefox) [...] Even on my fast machine the preferred browser. [...] vim (also gvim) is my text editor - it replaces word processing software. That's what I mostly use LaTeX for. Centerim for instant messaging (instead of pidgin). This seems to be something like CenterICQ (just judging by name). Generally all the motif-programs are small and fast. I'm using things like xpdf (uses OpenMotif) whenever I can. Maybe you go for a bigger harddisk? Costs a few bucks and will have enough space for BSD 7.2 (what I use) and some of the ports? I'm not sure if the system will accept it. Recently, I had to buy a 20 GB disk for my Siemens-Fujitsu Travelmate, because it did not accept the 40 GB disk I still had (extracted from a dead laptop). Compiling your own kernel and cleaning out the kernel source and the distfiles of the ports is also a good idea.. But I think it has to be done on a separate machine. I would imagine that I can at least prepare the hard disk for the Thinkpad in another machine (e. g. the S-F Travelmate I mentioned). But I managed to get FreeBSD installed via parallel cable in the past (plip). I'm just curious if the audio capabilites of the Thinkpad can be made working... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
