Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE
Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: Hi all! I have installed %uname -a FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #3: Tue Jan 25 19:19:34 MSK 2011 kvasi...@ota2.cellnetrix.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I have @dailyfreebsd-update cron in root's crontab. Why does freebsd-update mail me the following? [...] Who can give me ideas what's happening? Have you checked the man page for freebsd-update(8) ? cron Sleep a random amount of time between 1 and 3600 seconds, then download updates as if the fetch command was used. If updates are downloaded, an email will be sent (to root or a different address if specified via the -t option or in the configuration file). Sounds exactly like the expected behavior to me. So, the cron subcommand only does the 'fetch' part of freebsd-update. You'll still need to run 'freebsd-update install' to actually install the updates. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT: How to set a timeout for a process
I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the script (no harm done if it fails) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE
I know about how freedsd-update work. I use for a long time. But I don't understand why is freebsd-update going to update FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 to The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.3-RELEASE-p4:... -- With best regards, Konstantin Vasilyev 27.01.2011 10:56, Brian DeFreitas пишет: Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: Hi all! I have installed %uname -a FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #3: Tue Jan 25 19:19:34 MSK 2011 kvasi...@ota2.cellnetrix.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I have @daily freebsd-update cron in root's crontab. Why does freebsd-update mail me the following? [...] Who can give me ideas what's happening? Have you checked the man page for freebsd-update(8) ? cron Sleep a random amount of time between 1 and 3600 seconds, then download updates as if the fetch command was used. If updates are downloaded, an email will be sent (to root or a different address if specified via the -t option or in the configuration file). Sounds exactly like the expected behavior to me. So, the cron subcommand only does the 'fetch' part of freebsd-update. You'll still need to run 'freebsd-update install' to actually install the updates. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation
On 01/13/2011 11:28 PM, David Demelier wrote: Hello folks, I'm just guessing if there is a way to know a FreeBSD installation date. We can't look after the uname -a ident since an update of the FreeBSD kernel is possible. I think searching a file absolutely not touched ever in the system can helps but which one? markand@Melon ~ $ ls -l /root/.cshrc -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 798 19 Jul 04:17 /root/.cshrc It seems that this file has the FreeBSD dist access time so can't refers to neither. Do you have any clue? Cheers, Try to use not ls -l, but ls -lc. It will show you file creation time. ls -lcd /bin/, for example drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Dec 10 00:31 /bin/ -- Best regards, Alexandr Sushko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE
Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: I know about how freedsd-update work. I use for a long time. But I don't understand why is freebsd-update going to update FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 to The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.3-RELEASE-p4:... Ah, I see the problem now. The only thing I can think of is that your kernel and world might be out of sync, but if you're used to freebsd-update that seems unlikely. What's the output of 'freebsd-update IDS' ? I've had luck running that to see what freebsd-update thinks is going on with the system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Very Important Note on HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Bahman Kahinpour bahman.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi dear FreeBSD people, After spending a lot of time on making my HP LaserJet P1102 work on FreeBSD, I found out what the problem is!!! Please tell this to anybody who has problems with HP P1102 on FreeBSD! The problem with this HP model is that it has a fake CD-ROM which contains the Windows drivers. The USB must actually be switched from the CD-ROM mode to the Printer mode in order to work. Otherwise, the printer will not work whatever you do. /dev/ulpt0 will not show up either. --- The workaround is this: You must (unfortunately) connect the printer to a Windows system and run SIUtility.exe or SIUtility64.exe from the UTIL folder in the Driver CD-ROM (physical CD-ROM that comes with the printer not the fake one) and completely disable this HP Smart Install feature. After disabling this feature, everything will be fine on FreeBSD and life will be more beautiful. * Please pass this info on blogs, wikis, ... . I do not want other FreeBSD fans suffer this pain. Good luck First of all, I must make clear that regardless the fact that I work for HP and have been working on Laserjet printer firmware for more that five years -- though not on this particular printer model -- I'm speaking for myself, not for the company. From my own experience, you will probably achieve much better results from HP printers if you choose the network-enabled models (those whose names have a n or w suffix), not the host-based ones. This is especially true regarding printer management, since the net-enabled printers have an embedded web server. They also support management and monitoring via SNMP, which is very helpful. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
future of the desktop
Thanks to Solid's new UPower, UDev and UDisks backends, the deprecated HAL is no longer needed to manage hardware on Linux. Applications do not need to be updated to make use of these new backends. The HAL backend is still available for systems that do not support UPower. It happened with XFCE and now the same story with KDE. Is GNOME next? How looks like the future of desktop on FreeBSD or is time to install Linux here? Thanks in advance. Mitja http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Monting nfs at boot
2011-01-26 17:12, Warren Block skrev: On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:31:10 +0100, Sven-Åke Svensson s...@mbg.se wrote: When booting amd64 it looks like it try to mount the nfs directories before the network is up. On the screen I can see that it try to mount and then there is a line telling that the network interface is up. There it locks up for some minutes before it continue and mounting. [...] Maybe there are some easy configuration fix, but I can't find it. Check out the -l option of mount, and the corresponding keyword late in /etc/fstab. See man mount for details. Also see /etc/rc.d/mountlate to learn how it works (and if it fits your requirements). Using SYNCDHCP instead of just DHCP in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig lines may also help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi That solved it. When I changed from a fixed ip-address to SYNCDHCP it started up as it should. I don't really understand why it don't work with a fixed address. But it does not matter as long as I don't have to wait five minutes for a startup. Thank you for your help. Sven ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Very Important Note on HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:24:51 -0200, Carlos A. M. dos Santos unixma...@gmail.com wrote: From my own experience, you will probably achieve much better results from HP printers if you choose the network-enabled models (those whose names have a n or w suffix), not the host-based ones. I can just encourage ANYONE who wants easy printing, be it at home or in the office, to STAY AWAY from USB printers. Networking printers give you much more flexibility and advantages, and even if their price tag is different from what you might know from the consumer crap shelf in the local store, they are worth their money. Using HP printers myself, I was always lucky chosing those that can be used via network. I may also repeat one of my older statements: If you don't mind using USED hardware, get used OFFICE printers for cheap. They are still good and in most cases FULLY sufficient for home use. I'm using a HLP Laserjet 4000 duplex myself here at home for some years now, and it works PERFECTLY since first try - an experience NOT common to modern printers. This is especially true regarding printer management, since the net-enabled printers have an embedded web server. They often do also have a built-in printer queue, so basically you're querying the PRINTER with the lp* commands - in most cases very efficient. They also support management and monitoring via SNMP, which is very helpful. Maybe not at home, but in any office setting, it's a welcome help. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: future of the desktop
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:09:58 -0600, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to Solid's new UPower, UDev and UDisks backends, the deprecated HAL is no longer needed to manage hardware on Linux. Applications do not need to be updated to make use of these new backends. The HAL backend is still available for systems that do not support UPower. It happened with XFCE and now the same story with KDE. Is GNOME next? How looks like the future of desktop on FreeBSD or is time to install Linux here? Well, it's not that desktop == Xfce || desktop == KDE. :-) Maybe the Linux folks won't be happy with the U* either as it will surely be depricated at the moment it fully works. Regarding your question: I think it will be possible to keep Xfce and KDE running, but they won't be in fully functional state then. I'm not a KDE user (and not a Xfce user anymore), so I can't be more specific. Keep in mind that all the magic the U* are doing on Linux have been done by FreeBSD's devd for many years now. Maybe this is the chance to revert to a WORKING and STABLE infra- structure on FreeBSD. Just remember: FreeBSD had hotplug capabilities and automounter for many years, even BEFORE HAL and DBUS came to desktop land. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with freebsd-update on 7.3-RELEASE
Ok. Things a not good :-( freebsd-update produce a lot of output like this /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c has SHA256 hash 893beadfcf15784f31553ea142867c2949422d6937cb61f11a0f42ae3d7727fc, but should have SHA256 hash ce374f0d9434d08ee35769f8cbad7ca074506b814394b30d19d2aebcf3b2a29c. /usr/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_vfsops.c has SHA256 hash 7a69b307a5df13994c8c229946e3f20cdb22268ca967f596c70477c82250c7d2, but should have SHA256 hash 397e464eea58b339597b4a3ee6117ad9b58827814462131153070c2a067e357d. /usr/src/sys/nfsclient/nfs_vfsops.c has SHA256 hash 7a69b307a5df13994c8c229946e3f20cdb22268ca967f596c70477c82250c7d2, but should have SHA256 hash c54c0c265e22fdb7a323680ccbc25859fc171ebec485a68a06eae774683321ab. /usr/src/usr.bin/lex/mkskel.sh has 0755 permissions, but should have 0744 permissions. /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/tkpkg has 0755 permissions, but should have 0754 permissions. My system is out of sync now. Question is How can I sync my system? -- With best regards, Konstantin Vasilyev 27.01.2011 12:31, Brian DeFreitas пишет: Konstantin Vasilyev wrote: I know about how freedsd-update work. I use for a long time. But I don't understand why is freebsd-update going to update FreeBSD ota2.cellnetrix.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 to The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.3-RELEASE-p4:... Ah, I see the problem now. The only thing I can think of is that your kernel and world might be out of sync, but if you're used to freebsd-update that seems unlikely. What's the output of 'freebsd-update IDS' ? I've had luck running that to see what freebsd-update thinks is going on with the system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: How to set a timeout for a process
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote: I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the script (no harm done if it fails) If you are willing to be bash specific: http://www.bashcookbook.com/bashinfo/source/bash-4.0/examples/scripts/timeout3 I'm not exactly sure how to do it in a normal POSIX shell. -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: future of the desktop
Em Qui, 2011-01-27 às 06:09 -0600, ajtiM escreveu: Thanks to Solid's new UPower, UDev and UDisks backends, the deprecated HAL is no longer needed to manage hardware on Linux. Applications do not need to be updated to make use of these new backends. The HAL backend is still available for systems that do not support UPower. It happened with XFCE and now the same story with KDE. Is GNOME next? How looks like the future of desktop on FreeBSD or is time to install Linux here? Just my thoughts... I was looking at the Netbsd, it has been slow for eons, till money came.. I think that is the same with FreeBSD. I have a company here in Brazil that makes FreeBSD servers, and IP telephony using asterisk and gatekeepers (to router video). It has been around for about a year now, I must make a step forward, so I try to hire some people or to teach them to program in gtk, and build some parts that freebsd is missing: (webcam, wireless network manage, printers, ...) I realize that it is very difficult and would take a lot of time. The solution :I will try is to make money selling servers, and cryptography (gely) virtual desktops using vnc, access to remote windows running on virtualboxes... and with this money, hire people in the internet (or in the freeBSD community) to finish the missing parts, and than donate the code back to freebsd... That is not a lot of money, for what I see, about US$5000.00 a month would fix a lot of things. and is is cheaper that hire employees here and pay all the costs... This way, I can make what I do best: the Servers, virtualboxes, selling, support, databases. and let the other things (printers, wireless network manager=wicd, printer, scanner, webcam, ekiga, some crap notebooks...) to a stuff hired in internet... Here I can pay them as tecnological apport and deduce the money from the IRS... Am I right or am I wrong??? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: How to set a timeout for a process
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote: I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the script (no harm done if it fails) or in addition to my previous answer use /usr/ports/sysutils/timelimit -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: future of the desktop
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:23 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: P Keep in mind that all the magic the U* are doing on Linux P have been done by FreeBSD's devd for many years now. Maybe P this is the chance to revert to a WORKING and STABLE infra- P structure on FreeBSD. Just remember: FreeBSD had hotplug P capabilities and automounter for many years, even BEFORE P HAL and DBUS came to desktop land. Amen. :-) -- 27. Hartung 2011, 15:24 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de The gentlemen looked one another over with microscopic carelessness. pgpnjf4BxWGZH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: future of the desktop
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jens Jahnke jan0...@gmx.net wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:23 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: P Keep in mind that all the magic the U* are doing on Linux P have been done by FreeBSD's devd for many years now. Maybe P this is the chance to revert to a WORKING and STABLE infra- P structure on FreeBSD. Just remember: FreeBSD had hotplug P capabilities and automounter for many years, even BEFORE P HAL and DBUS came to desktop land. Amen. :-) Yes, but DBus is a generic IPC system. It is just slightly related to automounting and hotpluging. I mean, DBus is an easy way for communicating processes that provides, among other things, activation of well-known services. That's it's goal. On the other side, I think HAL is not necessary at all since devd is enough to do that. Cheers -- 27. Hartung 2011, 15:24 Homepage : http://www.jan0sch.de The gentlemen looked one another over with microscopic carelessness. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any package for surveys?
Hi Simon, elbbit wrote: I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website at: http://www.tibble.net/ Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! Yes, it looks very spammy to me For anyone who is half in the know about the goings on in the world, and are aware of Project Venus or the Zeitgeist Movement, you will understand that there is a growing concern over many global issues: - over-population of the planet - resources might run out (as a result of too many people) - money is a form of slavery - the choices available to us are set by corporations/governments, not by us the people ... the list goes on. The problem with many leading questions [as per your site] is that you can't agree / disagree with the question properly as there are grey areas. You might somewhat agree with each argument, so you are unable to choose b/w either given answer in a simple y/n situation. There are often at least three answers to a question, your answer, an opposing answer and the correct answer; however that trivializes the fact that multiple answers could be equally correct for different people with or without further argument -- but if you define the question to rigidly, you can't give fair license to get the answer that is truly relevant for the responder. I think back to the good old Eliza program, back in my late primary school days in the era of the TRS-80 and Apple ][e computers. The program asks a simple question, then depending on your response, it will ask further questions along the way to get to an artificial point of knowing the answer. Not sure if this helps, but along those lines, you could perhaps ask simple questions and build a tree to allow people to always give very short and un-ambiguous answers which they can agree with and not end up on the shelf trying to decide an impossible right answer for them based on the question which doesn't give them enough scope to answer properly and therefore let the asker know what is really thought by the responder. Inevitably, many forum polls have the same problem. Limit the available choices and you can't get appropriate or meaningful results. There are always other options that aren't seen in the poll. This might give you an idea: http://www.mobygames.com/game/trs-80/eliza -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any package for surveys?
Quoth elbbit on Thursday, 27 January 2011: Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! Saying it's not spam doesn't make it not spam. Please forward this message to everyone, even if you know full well they probably won't read or understand it. This message must travel the matrix in order to flourish. This is a call to join your spam army. No thanks. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com pgpN8GvkTX9Mu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE
William Bulley w...@umich.edu writes: Everything up to this point builds okay. Then this happens: Making all in common gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tpo -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory [...] And poppler.h exists here: /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/poppler.h and here: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h and here: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler-gtk/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h and they are all identical. Only the first counts, and it's the one that should be used. You may be doing something strange in the build; you don't mention how you started the build. Definitely make sure you do a make clean before restarting it, and make sure that poppler shows up up in the list of installed ports (pkg_info). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Alexandr Sushko alexandrsus...@gmail.comwrote: Try to use not ls -l, but ls -lc. It will show you file creation time. ls -lcd /bin/, for example drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Dec 10 00:31 /bin/ I ran this and the earliest date I found was Oct 12, 2008 which seems to be around when I migrated from 7.2 to 7.3 and this box has been alive since 6.0-RELEASE, it's a good 5-6 yrs old ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE
According to Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:04: William Bulley w...@umich.edu writes: Everything up to this point builds okay. Then this happens: Making all in common gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tpo -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory [...] And poppler.h exists here: /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/poppler.h and here: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h and here: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler-gtk/work/poppler-0.14.5/glib/poppler.h and they are all identical. Only the first counts, and it's the one that should be used. Just wanted to show that the include file was present. You may be doing something strange in the build; you don't mention how you started the build. Definitely make sure you do a make clean before restarting it, and make sure that poppler shows up up in the list of installed ports (pkg_info). I start the build in graphics/gimp followed by make install freebsd% pkg_info | grep -i poppler poppler-0.14.5 A PDF rendering library poppler-data-0.4.4 Poppler encoding data poppler-gtk-0.14.5 Gtk bindings to poppler Same results doing a make install after a make clean... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: w...@umich.edu 72 characters width template -| ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE
On 27/01/2011 17:22, William Bulley wrote: According to Lowell Gilbertfreebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:04: William Bulleyw...@umich.edu writes: Everything up to this point builds okay. Then this happens: Making all in common gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/gimp-app/work/gimp-2.6.11/plug-ins/common' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../.. -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -MT file_pdf-file-pdf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/file_pdf-file-pdf.Tpo -c -o file_pdf-file-pdf.o `test -f 'file-pdf.c' || echo './'`file-pdf.c file-pdf.c:30:21: error: poppler.h: No such file or directory It seems that gmake does not call `pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler`. do you have pkg-config and poppler installed correctly? /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc These files must be installed by poppler. In your case I will reinstall graphics/poppler by hand and verify that pkg-config finds it. Cheers, -- David Demelier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any package for surveys?
On 27/01/11 14:41, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Hi Simon, Thanks for taking the time to reply Andrew. elbbit wrote: I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website at: http://www.tibble.net/ Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! Yes, it looks very spammy to me I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. For anyone who is half in the know about the goings on in the world, and are aware of Project Venus or the Zeitgeist Movement, you will understand that there is a growing concern over many global issues: - over-population of the planet - resources might run out (as a result of too many people) - money is a form of slavery - the choices available to us are set by corporations/governments, not by us the people ... the list goes on. The problem with many leading questions [as per your site] is that you can't agree / disagree with the question properly as there are grey areas. You might somewhat agree with each argument, so you are unable to choose b/w either given answer in a simple y/n situation. There are often at least three answers to a question, your answer, an opposing answer and the correct answer; however that trivializes the fact that multiple answers could be equally correct for different people with or without further argument -- but if you define the question to rigidly, you can't give fair license to get the answer that is truly relevant for the responder. My argument to this is a physics one. Nothing is static. There is no grey area. This so called in between black and white is a myth which is perpetuated to stop us from deciding. Let me analogise: everything in real matter is in a state of change. In a car which has cruise control, the internal computer either adds braking force or increases the airflow in the combustion process to allow acceleration. The speedometer might perceptively appear to be stuck at the specified speed, but in fact, even at the microscopic level, you are either speeding up or slowing down. Using this as a guide, and from all the understandings I have gleaned from texts about psychology human relations, technology science, history and predictions: I deduce that everything is definitive. Just like the binary bit, your answer can only ever be 1 or 0. You are alive or dead. You either breathe in or out. Your brain either receives information or it does not. Your computer has electricity fed to it or not. There is no middle ground and any variance on the polar choice will be avoided at all costs. I think back to the good old Eliza program, back in my late primary school days in the era of the TRS-80 and Apple ][e computers. The program asks a simple question, then depending on your response, it will ask further questions along the way to get to an artificial point of knowing the answer. Aah, the old Turing test chestnut. Artificial intelligence *will* happen, but not in the way we have previously thought it. Inevitably, many forum polls have the same problem. Limit the available choices and you can't get appropriate or meaningful results. There are always other options that aren't seen in the poll. Just like I can switch my transistor half on? Simon -- elbbit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE
According to David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:39: It seems that gmake does not call `pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler`. do you have pkg-config and poppler installed correctly? /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc These files must be installed by poppler. In your case I will reinstall graphics/poppler by hand and verify that pkg-config finds it. You mention gmake, yet I use # make install all the time. Is this really gmake under the covers? I see both executables and they differ: freebsd% ls -l /usr/local/bin/gmake /usr/bin/make -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 378392 Jan 25 10:12 /usr/bin/make -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 156592 Jan 25 11:29 /usr/local/bin/gmake This is what I found when looking for those four above files: freebsd% ls -l /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc ls: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc: No such file or directory -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 304 Jan 27 11:43 /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 222 Jan 27 11:43 /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 222 Jan 27 11:43 /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc I rebuilt (make deinstall; make clean; make install) graphics/poppler. It made and installed cleanly (as did pkg-config earlier this week). I have these packages: poppler-0.14.5 A PDF rendering library poppler-data-0.4.4 Poppler encoding data poppler-gtk-0.14.5 Gtk bindings to poppler pkg-config-0.25_1 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries Which is the correct port to install this poppler-cairo file? I see two copies in the ports tree: /usr/ports/graphics/poppler/work/poppler-0.14.5/poppler-cairo.pc and /usr/ports/graphics/poppler-gtk/work/poppler-0.14.5/poppler-cairo.pc When I run this: # pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler I see this: -I/usr/local/include/poppler -L/usr/local/lib -lpoppler Is that to be expected? Note that the file poppler.h exists here: /usr/local/include/poppler/glib/poppler.h so would that not imply that -I/usr/local/include/poppler is wrong and instead should be: -I/usr/local/include/poppler/glib ?? Thanks for all the suggestions, but I am still in a pickle... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: w...@umich.edu 72 characters width template -| ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:55 AM, William Bulley w...@umich.edu wrote:
You mention gmake, yet I use # make install all the time. Is this
really gmake under the covers? I see both executables and they differ:
gmake is GNU Make, some applications don't talk nice w/ bsdmake ('make' on
your bsd system). If your installing GIMP from ports then you should be
correctly using something like 'make install clean'. The only time I've
invoked gmake was when building something by hand vs letting a ports
makefile do the footwork for me.
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Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE
According to Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net on Thu, 01/27/11 at 12:03:
gmake is GNU Make, some applications don't talk nice w/ bsdmake ('make' on
your bsd system). If your installing GIMP from ports then you should be
correctly using something like 'make install clean'. The only time I've
invoked gmake was when building something by hand vs letting a ports
makefile do the footwork for me.
Okay, thanks. However I still have a broken poppler (somehow) which
means I am unable to build the Gimp from the ports tree. What should I
next look for? I have re-built/installed graphics/poppler and also
graphics/gimp (using make install) but I still get the same error. :-(
Regards,
web...
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Re: OT: How to set a timeout for a process
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 03:37 -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
I have a script that may or not hang (the reasons why it hangs are
unimportant here) and need to call it from an other script and need to
say if it hangs to give up after X seconds and just continue the
script (no harm done if it fails)
#!/bin/sh
# -*- tab-width: 4 -*- ;; Emacs
# vi: set tabstop=4 :: Vi/ViM
GLOBALS
# Global exit status variables
SUCCESS=0
FAILURE=1
FUNCTIONS
# timeout_watcher $nsecs
#
# No need to call directly. Used by eval_timeout in the following
manner:
# eval_timeout $nsecs $cmd ... | timeout_watcher $nsecs
#
timeout_watcher()
{
local timeout=$1 tPID tALIVE
read tPID
while :; do
kill -INFO $tPID 2 /dev/null || break
read -t $timeout tALIVE
if [ ! $tALIVE ]; then
# The SIGINFO trap didn't respond in the given timeout...
# ... assume the sub-shell has hung and kill it.
kill -9 $tPID
break
fi
sleep $timeout
done
}
# eval_timeout $nsecs $cmd ...
#
eval_timeout()
{
local timeout=$1
[ $timeout ] || return $FAILURE
shift
cat -EOF | sh -T | timeout_watcher $timeout
trap 'echo still alive' INFO
echo \$\$
eval $@ 21
EOF
}
MAIN
eval_timeout $@
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Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS
Hello FreeBSD fans, After a lot of work, I managed to get my printer work with CUPS with appropriate filters. Now, I can print the test page using http://localhost:631 and also I can print any postscript file from command-line. cat ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps | /usr/local/bin/lp Note that I can not print using simple lp command as there a lp in /bin/lp. How can I print from inside the applications? Take Firefox or gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using FilePrint menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from FileMenu. There are only two choices Printer to File and Print to LPR. Printing to LPR does not work at all as I think it references /bin/lpr instead of /usr/local/bin/lpr. (Snapshot attached) How can I add more options in this dialog? Right now, in order to print I choose Print to File as PostScript and use command line cat PostScriptFile | /usr/local/bin/lp to print. Thanks for Help Bahman Kahinpour ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:21:48 +0330, Bahman Kahinpour bahman.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
Note that I can not print using simple lp command as there a lp in
/bin/lp.
FreeBSD uses the standard interface /usr/bin/lp*, while CUPS
brings its own commands at /usr/local/bin/lp*; it also differs
in the amount of commands (e. g. additional lpstat command).
How can I print from inside the applications?
CUPS should provide a default printer (lp is the default
name, but it can be anything else). You can define the
environment variable PRINTER to point to the desired default
printer which will be addressed whenever you print from
inside an application. In my case,
% echo $PRINTER
Laserjet
shows that all lp* commands will address Laserjet, and
all application data will go to that printer spool.
Take Firefox or
gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using FilePrint
menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from FileMenu.
No. You don't need an individual printer driver for each
application. :-)
Basically, printing from an application means that this program
will create the print content in PS format and send it to the
printer spool (identified by the default printer name). From
there on, the printer filter (CUPS in your case) will pick up
the PS data and hand it to the printer, or convert it to the
printer's language (e. g. PCL) and then send this result to
the printer.
When I go File - Print... in Firefox, PostScript/default
is the name of the printer. Set properties if needed (e. g.
A4 paper size, margins, whatever you need). After pressing
Enter, the print job should show up in your printer queue.
% lpq
Laserjet is ready and printing
Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
1stpoly 541 (standard input) 555466 bytes
Note that CUPS may require lpstat, not the standard lpq.
Some applications provide a temporary file name, or the name
of the input file; in case of Firefox you can see that the
printing content has been sent to the printer spool via
standard input.
There are only two choices Printer to File and Print to LPR.
This should be correct.
Printing to LPR does not work at all as I think it references /bin/lpr
instead of /usr/local/bin/lpr.
If you use CUPS, you need to use its print job entry tools,
/usr/local/bin/lp*. In the properties dialog window, the
print command of my Firefox (2.0.0.20_9,1) is:
lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME}
This is the lpr found FIRST in the path.
% which lpr
/usr/bin/lpr
For CUPS, it does have to be the other lpr. If you use CUPS
*INSTEAD* of the default system tools, there's an option in
make config that allows you to overwrite the system tools
in the default location. You can, however, work with symlinks
to redirect the commands to their location in the local/
subtree, or simply rename the system tools lp* to lp*.sys.
(Snapshot attached)
Nothing attached. :-)
How can I add more
options in this dialog?
No need. You just have to use the correct tools (CUPS's tools)
to address your default print queue.
Right now, in order to print I choose Print to File as PostScript
and use command line cat PostScriptFile | /usr/local/bin/lp to print.
This is what Firefox does itself.
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wine questions
Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Very Important Note on HP LaserJet P1102 on FreeBSD
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:50:16 +0330 Bahman Kahinpour bahman.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi dear FreeBSD people, After spending a lot of time on making my HP LaserJet P1102 work on FreeBSD, I found out what the problem is!!! Please tell this to anybody who has problems with HP P1102 on FreeBSD! The problem with this HP model is that it has a fake CD-ROM which contains the Windows drivers. The USB must actually be switched from the CD-ROM mode to the Printer mode in order to work. Otherwise, the printer will not work whatever you do. /dev/ulpt0 will not show up either. --- The workaround is this: You must (unfortunately) connect the printer to a Windows system and run SIUtility.exe or SIUtility64.exe from the UTIL folder in the Driver CD-ROM (physical CD-ROM that comes with the printer not the fake one) and completely disable this HP Smart Install feature. After disabling this feature, everything will be fine on FreeBSD and life will be more beautiful. * Please pass this info on blogs, wikis, ... . I do not want other FreeBSD fans suffer this pain. Good luck ___ freebsd-po...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi, seems ZeroCD technology now touching printers :) Bahman, can you try UQ_MSC_EJECT_* quirks on -CURRENT, maybe this can switch without booting into Win? If not, maybe googling some info about your printer with usb_modeswitch can help. WBW -- Aleksandr Rybalko r...@ddteam.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
On 1/27/11 11:48 AM, Fred wrote: Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Chaining emulators just sounds like a bad idea; I would guess that your risk of complications increases exponentially when doing this, and I would bet anything that your performance decreases exponentially as well. Also, I doubt the company that sells the commercial version of wine would support their software when running on untested platforms (e.g., FBSD w/ Linux Emulation). Further, that company probably has a list of supported software and won't vouch for their product's ability to run anything outside of that list. If you absolutely must run it under a *nix, I would go with Linux for this project. If you'd set dogma aside, though, you would probably see that Windows is your best bet for this project. A close second (if you had all the time in the world) would be writing drivers yourself for your desired platform. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any package for surveys?
On 27/01/11 17:04, Bill Moran ... Thank you for taking the time to reply Bill. I am glad you challenge me. Someone needs to! In response to elbbit elb...@gmail.com: On 27/01/11 14:41, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Hi Simon, Thanks for taking the time to reply Andrew. elbbit wrote: I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website at: http://www.tibble.net/ Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! Yes, it looks very spammy to me I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. I forgive you. If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another thread without changing the subject? With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too important to worry about whether or not my particular message fits into a defined category. The survey thread I chose to reply to is the closest match I could find that was both recent and relevant to OUR cause. By our I mean all people in the world, not just those involved with me. To highlight some facts here: a) original poster asked about conducting a survey b) original poster wants to gather the opinion using the internet c) I am conducting a survey of all people on all views, sorted by most active vote/talk thread d) my survey is being conducted on the internet It's because you don't really care if anyone on the list reads it, Naturally, when you understand the significance of everyone being able to vote, and then being able to change their vote at any time, and being able to vote on anything - completely unrestricted, unmoderated, clear-cut decision. Take a second to imagine in your mind, and call it fiction if you will, that it is wholly possible that all people can vote in this way. Now, seeing as we are dealing with fiction, and made up ideas, you must remember that money is a made up idea. Someone thought it up. Let's continue... you just want the message to be in the multitude of web archives that archive this mailing list so you'll have more links back to your page so search engines are more likely to rank you highly. I expect you've got some scheme in mind that eventually involves making yourself money once you've got enough traffic. I am not hostile. I care. I love. Yes, you read me right. I have nothing but love for you all, and whilst you might think I am going to fail without the use of money - I think you will find that there is a growing trend where people are starting to question why we have all believed in money. Money is the religion of today, if you open your eyes to see it for yourself. I am not here to make money. I am here to see what the world decides for itself. I sent a complaint to your ISP about the spamming. If enough other people do the same, you'll find your site shut down eventually. I wish you poor luck and misery. I forgive you [again] for thinking that I am hostile. I am not hurting anybody. No blood is being spilt because I am asking for your opinion. Go ahead and annoy the ISP if you want, but if they shut Tibble down it will just appear somewhere else, maybe even being written by someone new. I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it is out here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the famous movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal with is money and those who make it. They use it to control you. Do your own research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am crazy...or am I? Simon -- elbbit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any package for surveys?
On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. You sound like a sociopath. I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it is out here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the famous movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal with is money and those who make it. They use it to control you. Do your own research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am crazy...or am I? Nevermind, you actually just sound like a normal 14 year old with Hollywood inspired delusions of grandeur. Hope your website works out for you and ends social injustice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any package for surveys?
On 27/01/11 19:23, Jarrod Slick wrote: Thank you for taking the time to reply Jarrod. I appreciate your argument. On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. You sound like a sociopath. You sound like you are just putting me in a box marked crazy people without inquiring how I came to this conclusion. Your mind is closed. Only by asking questions will you learn anything new. Sure, I have answers, and so does Google. You can ask either or not at all. I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it is out here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the famous movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal with is money and those who make it. They use it to control you. Do your own research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am crazy...or am I? Nevermind, you actually just sound like a normal 14 year old with Hollywood inspired delusions of grandeur. It is widely accepted that Hollywood is based on real life, as a starting reference point in any fiction, and then distorted to a point. A screen writer then fills in the gaps with dramatization and dialogue. If my perception of the creativity industry is flawed, please educate me. Hope your website works out for you and ends social injustice. I forgive you. I accept the ridicule and sarcasm, because I have already accepted in advance, that it is the price I must pay in order free humanity from the control of a few powerful men, and give the power to the people themselves. If you are unable to see (in advance) how global voting is going to change the world, I think you need to get up from that keyboard and go ponder about the possibilities whilst staring out of a window. Simon -- elbbit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
Linux emulation on FreeBSD is not really emulation, in the sense that it does not create virtual hardware. Some linux softwares run even faster on FreeBSD than Linux... My worry would be more to make sure that USB communication works through the emulation layers... On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jarrod Slick jarrod...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/27/11 11:48 AM, Fred wrote: Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Chaining emulators just sounds like a bad idea; I would guess that your risk of complications increases exponentially when doing this, and I would bet anything that your performance decreases exponentially as well. Also, I doubt the company that sells the commercial version of wine would support their software when running on untested platforms (e.g., FBSD w/ Linux Emulation). Further, that company probably has a list of supported software and won't vouch for their product's ability to run anything outside of that list. If you absolutely must run it under a *nix, I would go with Linux for this project. If you'd set dogma aside, though, you would probably see that Windows is your best bet for this project. A close second (if you had all the time in the world) would be writing drivers yourself for your desired platform. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Any package for surveys?
Quoth elbbit on Thursday, 27 January 2011: On 27/01/11 17:04, Bill Moran ... Thank you for taking the time to reply Bill. I am glad you challenge me. Someone needs to! In response to elbbit elb...@gmail.com: On 27/01/11 14:41, Andrew McGlashan wrote: Hi Simon, Thanks for taking the time to reply Andrew. elbbit wrote: I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website at: http://www.tibble.net/ Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! Yes, it looks very spammy to me I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. I forgive you. If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another thread without changing the subject? With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too important to worry about whether or not my particular message fits into a defined category. The survey thread I chose to reply to is the closest match I could find that was both recent and relevant to OUR cause. By our I mean all people in the world, not just those involved with me. To highlight some facts here: a) original poster asked about conducting a survey b) original poster wants to gather the opinion using the internet c) I am conducting a survey of all people on all views, sorted by most active vote/talk thread d) my survey is being conducted on the internet It's because you don't really care if anyone on the list reads it, Naturally, when you understand the significance of everyone being able to vote, and then being able to change their vote at any time, and being able to vote on anything - completely unrestricted, unmoderated, clear-cut decision. Take a second to imagine in your mind, and call it fiction if you will, that it is wholly possible that all people can vote in this way. Now, seeing as we are dealing with fiction, and made up ideas, you must remember that money is a made up idea. Someone thought it up. Let's continue... you just want the message to be in the multitude of web archives that archive this mailing list so you'll have more links back to your page so search engines are more likely to rank you highly. I expect you've got some scheme in mind that eventually involves making yourself money once you've got enough traffic. I am not hostile. I care. I love. Yes, you read me right. I have nothing but love for you all, and whilst you might think I am going to fail without the use of money - I think you will find that there is a growing trend where people are starting to question why we have all believed in money. Money is the religion of today, if you open your eyes to see it for yourself. I am not here to make money. I am here to see what the world decides for itself. I sent a complaint to your ISP about the spamming. If enough other people do the same, you'll find your site shut down eventually. I wish you poor luck and misery. I forgive you [again] for thinking that I am hostile. I am not hurting anybody. No blood is being spilt because I am asking for your opinion. Go ahead and annoy the ISP if you want, but if they shut Tibble down it will just appear somewhere else, maybe even being written by someone new. I am on the outside of the matrix. You have no idea how great it is out here. Unplug, and free your mind, just like Neo does in the famous movie. Only, try to understand, the real fiction we deal with is money and those who make it. They use it to control you. Do your own research. Don't believe the crazy man - because I am crazy...or am I? Simon -- elbbit As I was reading this, I couldn't help picturing the speaker as King Julian from the Madagascar movies. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com pgpwu8xP0MeNo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Any package for surveys?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 04:38:57PM +, elbbit wrote: I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. It's spam, no matter how good you think the cause may be. Spam alienates people. It does *not* sway them to your point of view. Being spammy is a great way to *discourage* people from whatever you want to encourage them to do. I recommend you stop. You have already convinced many on this list, I am certain, that visiting your site will be a complete waste of time, because spammy behavior is a very strong indicator of scammy ideas. I think back to the good old Eliza program, back in my late primary school days in the era of the TRS-80 and Apple ][e computers. The program asks a simple question, then depending on your response, it will ask further questions along the way to get to an artificial point of knowing the answer. Aah, the old Turing test chestnut. Artificial intelligence *will* happen, but not in the way we have previously thought it. This is completely irrelevant to the point about Eliza. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpirGyFtlEFI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Any package for surveys?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Jarrod Slick wrote: On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. You sound like a sociopath. Actually, the correct term in this case is megalomaniac. The part that makes him sound like a sociopath is the part where he says he's going to spam people because he thinks his desires are more important than living peacefully with other people. I'm not likely to actually think he's a sociopath or megalomaniac at this point, however. He may merely be misguided. I do not have enough information to diagnose him. He may even be a she, but I need to pick a pronoun, so there it is (and for some reason people object when I use it for people whose genders are unknown to me). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp0SE5yMHIDv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Any package for surveys?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 07:43:09PM +, elbbit wrote: On 27/01/11 19:23, Jarrod Slick wrote: On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. You sound like a sociopath. You sound like you are just putting me in a box marked crazy people without inquiring how I came to this conclusion. Your mind is closed. Only by asking questions will you learn anything new. Sure, I have answers, and so does Google. You can ask either or not at all. . . . and you sound like a shady door-to-door salesman just trying to get the foot in the door to sell someone a set of overpriced kitchen knives he doesn't need. I suggest you take a different approach that does not alienate the people you think you want to convince to join you. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgppf1Iq464vS.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Any package for surveys?
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chad Perrin Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:20 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Jarrod Slick wrote: On 1/27/11 12:08 PM, elbbit wrote: I am not going anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. You sound like a sociopath. Actually, the correct term in this case is megalomaniac. The part that makes him sound like a sociopath is the part where he says he's going to spam people because he thinks his desires are more important than living peacefully with other people. I'm not likely to actually think he's a sociopath or megalomaniac at this point, however. He may merely be misguided. I do not have enough information to diagnose him. He may even be a she, but I need to pick a pronoun, so there it is (and for some reason people object when I use it for people whose genders are unknown to me). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I don't object to it for unknown's of any kind - feel free, I won't be offended - and since I'm the only one that matters you're good to go! font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Fred f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? Best regards, Fred ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Have you tried VirtualBox? You still have to shell out for a Windows license, but at least the Gates virus will be contained securely on your computer. For me, Virtual Box + FreeBSD has been running better than VMWare + OS X. Once again, free software, more than worth the price. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when the box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here. What _is_ the definition of built ??? When the hardware pieces were coalesced into a single chassis? If that's the case, I'd be looking at model numbers of internal parts. I suspect that at this point you are just being pedantic, and that you know what the question actually means; you just want to dismiss the question as immaterial. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpm7c8n9oyYt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when the box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here. What _is_ the definition of built ??? When the hardware pieces were coalesced into a single chassis? If that's the case, I'd be looking at model numbers of internal parts. I suspect that at this point you are just being pedantic, Correct. I get paid to be pedantic. It's a staple of my tenure-track position. and that you know what the question actually means Correct. Going back to the OP's e-mail, he indeed clarified that he was only interested in the install-date of FreeBSD. ; you just want to dismiss the question as immaterial. Incorrect and perceptually [unrightly] indignent. The above statements (which you've taken out of context) were not to the OP but a reply-thread between Chuck Swiger and myself. -- Devin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem building GIMP 2.6.11 on 8.2-PRERELEASE
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, William Bulley wrote: According to David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com on Thu, 01/27/11 at 11:39: It seems that gmake does not call `pkg-config --libs --cflags poppler`. do you have pkg-config and poppler installed correctly? /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cairo.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-cpp.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler-splash.pc /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/poppler.pc These files must be installed by poppler. In your case I will reinstall graphics/poppler by hand and verify that pkg-config finds it. You mention gmake, yet I use # make install all the time. Is this really gmake under the covers? I see both executables and they differ: gmake is used transparently by the ports system when a port needs it, typically marked by USE_GMAKE= yes in the port Makefile (graphics/gimp-app, in this case). poppler-0.14.5 A PDF rendering library poppler-data-0.4.4 Poppler encoding data poppler-gtk-0.14.5 Gtk bindings to poppler pkg-config-0.25_1 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries Which is the correct port to install this poppler-cairo file? poppler-0.14.5 Be sure to clean it before rebuilding and installing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:09:52PM +, Devin Teske wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when the box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here. What _is_ the definition of built ??? When the hardware pieces were coalesced into a single chassis? If that's the case, I'd be looking at model numbers of internal parts. I suspect that at this point you are just being pedantic, Correct. I get paid to be pedantic. It's a staple of my tenure-track position. Do you get paid to read carefully? I did not simply say you're being pedantic. I said you're *just* being pedantic, which is considerably less useful or respectable. and that you know what the question actually means Correct. Going back to the OP's e-mail, he indeed clarified that he was only interested in the install-date of FreeBSD. ; you just want to dismiss the Incorrect and perceptually [unrightly] indignent. s/indignent/indignant/ (just being pedantic; pardon me) If that is not your intent, please enlighten me, because it *still* seems to be your intended meaning, and this only looks like backpedaling in the absence of any clarification of intended meaning. The above statements (which you've taken out of context) were not to the OP but a reply-thread between Chuck Swiger and myself. . . . and yet, they're on the public list, so (it seems) there must be some desire for them to be consumed by the general readership. If that desire is not rooted in an interest in publicly humiliating someone, the next most likely reason seems to be to make comments in the general context of the discussion thread hearkening back to the OP. A third most likely does not immediately spring to mind. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpKGh1GgY762.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Bahman Kahinpour wrote: After a lot of work, I managed to get my printer work with CUPS with appropriate filters. Now, I can print the test page using http://localhost:631 and also I can print any postscript file from command-line. cat ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps | /usr/local/bin/lp UUOC: % /usr/local/bin/lp ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps Note that I can not print using simple lp command as there a lp in /bin/lp. How can I print from inside the applications? Take Firefox or gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using FilePrint menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from FileMenu. CUPS chose to use identical names for their printing commands. Sometimes people delete the system lpr (/usr/bin/lpr) so that only the CUPS version is found, or link one to the other. The system lpr will come back if you rebuild the system, unless you take other actions. The CUPS article talks about this near the end: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cups/index.html There may also be options in your desktop environment preferences to select which printing system will be used. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
Fred wrote: Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? Best regards, Fred FreeBSD has a special list for this topic: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation PS main issue might be USB support within emulators from what I've read. ALL, Note FreeBSD has Lots of lists: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Questions@ is/was for general simple beginners questions IMO, some traffic here belongs on other more advanced lists. Decide yourself, browse the list above, click a few read list remits. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? If you were to be more specific about the device you're considering, someone may be able to suggest specifics. Sometimes Wine is surprising. This was the case when I managed to run the Arduino software on Wine under FreeBSD. That software speaks to the microcontroller via serial or USB-to-serial: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AVR/ArduinoWINE If your device speaks serial like that, it might work well. If it wants to do low-level hardware or anything uncommon, it probably will not work in Wine. If you have to get the device anyway, there's little harm in trying it on Wine. If it doesn't work, you've lost nothing but time, and probably not much of that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
can shift hold be enabled in hal?
I have to type one-handed. I wish to hit the shift key so the next letter I type is upper case and the next is lower case. Here is my current x11-input.fdi ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringus/merge merge key=input.x11_options.XkbVariant type=stringdvorak-r/merge /match /device /deviceinfo == What did you do? the man holding the flashlight asked. I put down a spider, he said, wondering why the man didn't see; in the beam of yellow light the spider bloated up larger than life. So it could get away. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jan 27 12:01:23 2011 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:21:48 +0330 From: Bahman Kahinpour bahman.li...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Printing from inside the applications in FreeBSD 8.1 with CUPS Hello FreeBSD fans, After a lot of work, I managed to get my printer work with CUPS with appropriate filters. Now, I can print the test page using http://localhost:631 and also I can print any postscript file from command-line. cat ~/MyPostscriptFile.ps | /usr/local/bin/lp Note that I can not print using simple lp command as there a lp in /bin/lp. How can I print from inside the applications? Take Firefox or gedit for instance. How can I print from those apps using FilePrint menu? I need to add stuff to those dialogs which open from FileMenu. There are only two choices Printer to File and Print to LPR. Printing to LPR does not work at all as I think it references /bin/lpr instead of /usr/local/bin/lpr. (Snapshot attached) How can I add more options in this dialog? Right now, in order to print I choose Print to File as PostScript and use command line cat PostScriptFile | /usr/local/bin/lp to print. Thanks for Help Bahman Kahinpour ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
On Thursday 27 January 2011, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Fred f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. [snip] Have you tried VirtualBox? You still have to shell out for a Windows license, but at least the Gates virus will be contained securely on your computer. For me, Virtual Box + FreeBSD has been running better than VMWare + OS X. Once again, free software, more than worth the price. But VirtualBox OSE doesn't support USB. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
But VirtualBox OSE doesn't support USB. VirtualBox 4 does. http://www.virtualbox.org/changeset/33813 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:50:31PM +, Mike Clarke wrote: On Thursday 27 January 2011, Dmitri Brengauz wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Fred f...@blakemfg.com wrote: Hello, I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. [snip] Have you tried VirtualBox? You still have to shell out for a Windows license, but at least the Gates virus will be contained securely on your computer. For me, Virtual Box + FreeBSD has been running better than VMWare + OS X. Once again, free software, more than worth the price. But VirtualBox OSE doesn't support USB. VirtualBox 4 *seems* to support USB (I have the option in the GUI, haven't tried it though). It's available for testing from http://svn.bluelife.at/ at the moment. -- Mike Clarke HTH, Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't install - Octave, SuiteSparse
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote: This is probably a GCC problem. What exact version are you using (pkg_info | grep gcc)? There is another recent report of issues with the latest update to lang/gcc45: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2010-October/064212.html Perhaps the maintainer knows more (cc'd) or you could try rolling back temporarily - I've successfully built suitesparse with 4.5.2.20101014 on amd64 current recently. # pkg_info | grep gcc gcc-4.4.6.20101012 GNU Compiler Collection 4.4 gcc-4.5.2.20101021 GNU Compiler Collection 4.5 gccmakedep-1.0.2Create dependencies in makefiles using 'gcc -M' Sorry, I just realized I totally missed this question. Are you still seeing the problem? Looking at the web archive of this thread, I do not see anything stand out. What happens if you remove gcc-4.4.6.20101012 and try to build everything with GCC 4.5? It may be worthwhile doing a 'portupgrade -a' or similar and rebuild all ports with one and the same compiler before trying again. Gerald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: I need to buy an expensive logic device programmer that connects to a PC through USB. Unfortunately, the user software that make it go only runs on Bill Gates' cancerous, virus-infested, scourge of the Earth excuse for an OS which I do not use. Is it likely to work ok using wine? What type of programs do not work well with wine? There is a supported, commercial version of wine that runs on Linux. Would I be better off buying that and running it on the FBSD Linux emulation? If you were to be more specific about the device you're considering, someone may be able to suggest specifics. Sometimes Wine is surprising. This was the case when I managed to run the Arduino software on Wine under FreeBSD. That software speaks to the microcontroller via serial or USB-to-serial: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AVR/ArduinoWINE If your device speaks serial like that, it might work well. If it wants to do low-level hardware or anything uncommon, it probably will not work in Wine. If you have to get the device anyway, there's little harm in trying it on Wine. If it doesn't work, you've lost nothing but time, and probably not much of that. I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. I believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters and the file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer directly or otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask Xeltek if they will give a refund if I can't get the unit working in a reasonable time. If it doesn't work I would otherwise be out of $1500. I will not use Windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wine questions
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Fred wrote: I am interested in the Xeltek SuperPro-5000. This unit will alsowork stand-alone with a CF card programmed by the PC in addition to usb. I believe the user software downloads a set of programming parameters and the file to be programmed rather than driving the programmer directly or otherwise do low level hardware stuff. I am going to ask Xeltek if they will give a refund if I can't get the unit working in a reasonable time. If it doesn't work I would otherwise be out of $1500. I will not use Windows. There's a downloadable version of the software on the site. If that works acceptably, the final hurdle would be whether it can communicate with the programmer by USB. The site says it's USB 2.0 and installs drivers on Windows, which doesn't bode well for the Wine/FreeBSD setup. It may work, although you have to expect that any support call will blame problems on the non-standard setup. It might be easier to start with open software and choose a programmer that is supported by it. For instance, devel/avrdude supports some faster programmers. Depends on what you need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't install - Octave, SuiteSparse
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 15:25, Gerald Pfeifer ger...@pfeifer.com wrote: Sorry, I just realized I totally missed this question. Are you still seeing the problem? Looking at the web archive of this thread, I do not see anything stand out. What happens if you remove gcc-4.4.6.20101012 and try to build everything with GCC 4.5? It may be worthwhile doing a 'portupgrade -a' or similar and rebuild all ports with one and the same compiler before trying again. Gerald IIRC, there was a problematic version of gcc45 somewhere in that time period but it was corrected next time the port was updated. I would suggest the reporter try again with a recent version - I suspect it will work fine. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation
I tried responding to an off-list message. Delivery failed for some reason. I just don't want the sender of the message to which I tried to reply to think I'm ignoring him, so I elected to send this to the list. Thanks for your patience. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpaCnpR0jeSm.pgp Description: PGP signature
