Re: really dumb question: can I install Linux USB drivers under linux compat?
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 15:19 -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > Am I crazy? > > Steve Not really. Check out linux-kmod-compat in ports. However, there is catch ;) I'm just checking into some details now- I'm not sure if you have to build the driver or you can just use one prebuilt in an rpm. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Mac osX drivers
On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 13:49 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:19 PM, David Kelly wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 02:26:23PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >> I know I keep asking about drivers, but what about Mac drivers? I > >> understand that Mac osX is based fairly well on BSD, so would the > >> drivers be portable? > > > > Drivers for doing what? > > > >> This is all on a current project I'm working on... > > > > Go study the available Darwin code from > > http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/ > > This is good advice, but if you check this link and actually look at > the OSX drivers under there, you'll discover that they are generally > written in C++ using something called the I/O Kit, documented here: > > http://developer.apple.com/reference/HardwareDrivers/ > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeviceDrivers/Conceptual/IOKitFundamentals > > > I believe you will discover many of the drivers in MacOS X came from > > FreeBSD. > > Not really, no. The OS X drivers originated from the Mach project at > CMU and NeXT Computer back in the early 90's [1], with a significant > rewrite by Apple after they acquired NeXT circa 1998 to add numerous > drivers to support Apple's hardware in particular. > Thanks for the info guys- looks like I have to keep looking for a different solution. I do have another question but I will ask this in another thread. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Mac osX drivers
I know I keep asking about drivers, but what about Mac drivers? I understand that Mac osX is based fairly well on BSD, so would the drivers be portable? This is all on a current project I'm working on... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: I'd like some help
On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 19:51 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 09:10:04AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 14:58 -0700, Matthew Woodson wrote: > > > I've been learning about a bunch of the BSD OSes, and i want to try Free > > > BSD, but i can't figure out how to download it and the instructions don't > > > make sense. I am running Windows XP OS- can you tell me how to download > > > Free BSD with it? > > > > Go to the download section of the site and download the iso files. Once > > you have those, double click on them and burn them to disk. > > Last I checked, the MS Windows built-in CD burning software didn't do > burning from an image -- you'd need third-party software. Burning an ISO > without such software would just result in a copy of the ISO on the CD, > rather than a CD that would boot up an installer. > Which software were you using and how long ago? I've used Roxio, Nero, and Easy CD Creator- all of which did that. Most bundled burning software will do it automatically. They offer burn from cd/dvd image, as well as data cd creation, so when you double click on an iso file it sets up to burn the image for you. If you haven't got the bundled software installed I agree with you though. Fairly uncommon though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: OT: (Way OT) PHP and MySQL concurrency control using MyISAM tables
On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 19:17 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I know this is not quite the list for these things, but I tried the PHP > > list and got no reply whatsoever. In fact, I don't think anyone's home > > cause the entire list is silent... > > > > I'm trying to setup a system using web apps in PHP using MySQL as the > > backend database, only this time I need transaction services. According > > to the PHP manual if a transaction is served for MySQL it can come back > > as committed even though it may not. So what I'm trying to accomplish is > > develop some row level locking with the PHP script. > > > > I enquired about setting up a servlet (for want of a better term) with > > PHP, something that will serve the requests of the rest of the app. To > > be honest though, I'm not entirely sure how to approach this. > > Wow. That's one crazy attempt at a workaround. > > The correct solution is to use the correct tool for the job. Either > install PostgreSQL and use it instead, or use InnoDB tables. > Actually, I think I may have got some facts confused here- I thought that MyISAM was not supposed to be transaction supported, but according to most stuff I've read it supports table level transaction locking. And the PHP manual says it will only come back with a false commit IF the table DOESN'T support transactions at all. So what is the truth here? If MyISAM supports transaction table locking I may be ok here- and save myself a hell of a lot of trouble to boot. Thanks guys, again. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
OT: (Way OT) PHP and MySQL concurrency control using MyISAM tables
I know this is not quite the list for these things, but I tried the PHP list and got no reply whatsoever. In fact, I don't think anyone's home cause the entire list is silent... I'm trying to setup a system using web apps in PHP using MySQL as the backend database, only this time I need transaction services. According to the PHP manual if a transaction is served for MySQL it can come back as committed even though it may not. So what I'm trying to accomplish is develop some row level locking with the PHP script. I enquired about setting up a servlet (for want of a better term) with PHP, something that will serve the requests of the rest of the app. To be honest though, I'm not entirely sure how to approach this. Any ideas would be very welcome. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: media conversion utilities in the ports
On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 09:41 +0100, Michaël Grünewald wrote: > Andrew Falanga a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > A few quick searches on freshports.org didn't turn up much so I'm > > hoping that the knowledge here will eclipse it. Are there any good, > > or workable, scriptable WMA to MP3 converter programs in ports? > > Mplayer pretends it can handle WMA files, however I did not try this > feature. See multimedia/mplayer, it installs an `mencoder' program you > might be interested in. you need the win32 codecs to make this work though. good luck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: I'd like some help
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 14:58 -0700, Matthew Woodson wrote: > I've been learning about a bunch of the BSD OSes, and i want to try Free BSD, > but i can't figure out how to download it and the instructions don't make > sense. I am running Windows XP OS- can you tell me how to download Free BSD > with it? > > > -Thanks, Matthew > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Go to the download section of the site and download the iso files. Once you have those, double click on them and burn them to disk. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: virtual machine software
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 23:37 -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: > I need to get a VM work for XP. I tried QEmu, but XP wouldn't install. > I wouldn't mind VMWare, but I want to run it under trial first if > possible. > > Any documents/suggestions that anyone can point me to? I'm not certain that it is ported yet, but you can build vmware - to get xp on vmware you'll need server though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[Fwd: Re: List replies]
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 23:24 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > Da Rock writes: > > > > Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the > > > list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list. > > > > Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought > > you'd have to subscribe to post. > > I believe that has been considered and rejected, on the grounds > this is the list most likely to be found by novices and it should > present the only the absolutely necessary number of hoops. > > > Robert Huff Fair enough, but is it necessary on all the lists for freebsd? --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: List replies
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 22:38 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On March 22, 2008 1:10:40 PM +1000 Da Rock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >> > This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a > >> > reason why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of > >> > the person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> > >> Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the > >> list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list. > > > > Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought > > you'd have to subscribe to post. > > > > And *I* thought it was proper etiquette to only reply to the list. Me too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: List replies
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 02:58 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:35:57AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a reason > > why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of the > > person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Because many people who ask questions here are not subscribed to the > list and thus would not see any answers that were sent only to the list. Well that certainly explains it, but it does surprise me. I thought you'd have to subscribe to post. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Card readers
I have mentioned this before in other threads, but it appears it requires a thread of its own. I have a laptop with a card reader built in which I have never been able to get to work. Everything I have looked up regarding these has to do with usb versions, and other than the laptops my card readers are usb so this shouldn't be a problem. In the laptops I have a texas instruments PCI card reader though, which gives me a real headache. I can't seem to get them to operate at all, so I'm left wondering about drivers and such. These are the specs: Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller 02:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller I'm currently running Fedora (which seems to work), but I'd like to move over to FreeBSD as soon as I can get all the features needed on these. I seem to be making headway on most of these, so here's hoping. The card reader is capable of reading nearly all format cards, including xD which is a main reason why I'd like to get it to work. Any links and info would be very appreciated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
List replies
This may have been suggested or discussed before, but is there a reason why the reply-to on this list isn't the list itself instead of the person who posted? Ie reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Curious... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: removable devices auto umounting
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 16:21 +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55:32AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >>> I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can > >>> see its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I > >>> could use some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card > >>> reader), but the removal seems to come unstuck. > >>> > >>> I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work > >>> this out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What > >>> are the options here? > > In KDE (same for GNOME and such I figure), removable devices like usb > keys, cameras, cd/dvd are automounted and appear on the desktop. > Using the right-click popup menu you can "Safely remove" or "Eject" > them. > > For this to work, you need to have sysutils/hal installed and configure > x11/kdebase3 to enable hal support (this is the default). > > Then you need to give users permission to access necessary devices. > It's best to create a separate group for that like plugdev and then > add users to this group. To give a plugdev group access to devices > create/edit the file /etc/devfs.rules to contain: > > --- begin /etc/devfs.rules --- > [local_ruleset=10] > #allow plugdev to access the CAM subsystem (required for cd/dvd burning and > usb mass storage) > add path xpt0 user root group plugdev mode 0660 > add path 'pass*' user root group plugdev mode 0660 > #only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any > #add path pass0 user root group operator mode 0660 > #add path pass1 user root group operator mode 0660 > #... > > #allow plugdev to access the cdrom > add path cd0 user root group plugdev mode 0660 > > #allow plugdev to access usb mass storage > add path 'da*' user root group plugdev mode 0660 > #only allow root for specific fixed SCSI drives if any > #add path 'da0*' user root group operator mode 0660 > #add path 'da1*' user root group operator mode 0660 > #... > > #allow plugdev to access generic usb devices (cameras/mp3 players using > libusb) > add path 'usb*' user root group plugdev mode 0660 > add path 'ugen*' user root group plugdev mode 0660 > --- end /etc/devfs.rules --- > > (You don't need anything special in /etc/devfs.conf. If you've put > stuff there to get cd burning working for normal users, you can > remove it. (permission for cd,xpt,pass devices)) > > In /etc/rc.conf then make sure you have these lines: > > dbus_enable="YES" > devfs_system_ruleset="local_ruleset" > hald_enable="YES" > polkitd_enable="YES" > > And finally, give plugdev access to hal by editing > /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf > At the end of that file it says: > > > > > > > > > > On the second line above, change "operator" to "plugdev". > > Then make sure you have a /var/media directory and /media linking to it > and nothing related to removable devices in /etc/fstab (including cdrom). > Reboot your system and if I didn't miss anything, any user in the > plugdev group should be able to use removable devices quite easily. Thanks for that- I was just looking into that from the Project Utopia article. Just a couple of things- 1. You still have to click eject before removing the device. Is there a way to skip this and just remove the device? 2. The D-Bus system only works with an X wm doesn't it? I know it seems contrary, but is there a way I can set this up so that it will work from a standard tty? The amd system appears to allow this, but it does have its faults as well. Consider this theory: IF the X windows system is running- D-Bus and all- can other background daemons use this system? I guess they wouldn't need to concern themselves with this problem as the X windows will be taking care of it automatically. Another thought: do all wm's use the D-Bus? Or is it only kde and gnome? Thanks for being a sounding board guys. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: removable devices auto umounting
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 14:14 +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 09:55:37PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can see > > > > its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I could use > > > > some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card reader), but the > > > > removal seems to come unstuck. > > > > > > > > I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work this > > > > out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What are the > > > > options here? > > In all honesty, I'm not sure FreeBSD (or any other OS, for that matter) > is suitable for 'barely literates'. A computer is not a toaster. True enough. But at least they know how to plug in and unplug a device- I just don't know if they'll remember to umount first! > > > > > One (not bullet-proof) workaround might be to use the automounter > > > [amd(8)], and have it unmount very quickly after they stop being > > > active. This requires setting both the 'cache_duration' and > > > 'dismount_interval' options in amd.conf(5) to very low values. > > > > So by active you mean device access? > > I mean access to the auto-mounted directory, or files therein. That'd be perfect then. > > > Or device physical connection? If > > its simply access, than that would be perfect- user enters the mount > > point, > > User needs to plug in the device first! > > And it is actually worse. Depending on if and how the usb device was set > up, you need to use the device daX[sY], where X depends on how many other > da devices are already in use, and the optional Y depends on how it was > sliced (partitioned in DOS parlance). > > Furthermore, you need to know which kind of filesystem is used. Most > thumbdrives are msdosfs, but larger ones might be ntfs as well. > > For msdosfs, I use: > 'mount_msdosfs -m 644 -M 755 -o noatime -o sync -o noexec -o nosuid $DEV $DIR' > I'm sure I could script something to get around that. That shouldn't be too hard, but I take your point: I need to consider nearly all possibilities. > > Also, what docs/how-to's would you suggest for AMD? I looked at the man > > and some freebsd doc pages, but another viewpoint would help. > > Specifically some more docs on the settings you mention. > > I've never used amd, so I can't help you there. :-) > > > Bullet-proof is not exactly necessary- nice, but not critical. > > Suggestions for bullet-proof are very welcome though. What is the worst > > that can happen if dismounting is not entirely successful? Keeping in > > mind that this is mostly a desktop system. > > Last time I tried unplugging a USB device before unmounting it I got a > kernel panic. > > Roland That last point would only occur if the device was still being written to- right? I'm sure my users can be trained at least that far... I will watch out for that though. Thanks for the input. I reckon I can get it working (relatively) smoothly now. Don't suppose you know anything about setting up internal card readers in laptops at all? Trouble is I don't think it's hooked up to the usb bus. Its a Texas Instruments model. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: removable devices auto umounting
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 08:43 +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55:32AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can see > > its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I could use > > some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card reader), but the > > removal seems to come unstuck. > > > > I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work this > > out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What are the > > options here? > > In short, no. Removal of a USB device would be forwarded to devd(8). But > since the device is no longer there at that moment, you cannot unmount > it anymore. You might get a nice kernel panic for your efforts, though. ;-) > > The FreeBSD disk subsystem was simple not written with removable devices > in mind, because they didn't exist back then. Until that code is fixed > (which is hard) you _have_ to unmount before you pull the device out. > > One (not bullet-proof) workaround might be to use the automounter > [amd(8)], and have it unmount very quickly after they stop being > active. This requires setting both the 'cache_duration' and > 'dismount_interval' options in amd.conf(5) to very low values. > > Roland So by active you mean device access? Or device physical connection? If its simply access, than that would be perfect- user enters the mount point, reads or writes a file, amd times out after X secs and dismounts the device. Physical could be a bit harder... Also, what docs/how-to's would you suggest for AMD? I looked at the man and some freebsd doc pages, but another viewpoint would help. Specifically some more docs on the settings you mention. Bullet-proof is not exactly necessary- nice, but not critical. Suggestions for bullet-proof are very welcome though. What is the worst that can happen if dismounting is not entirely successful? Keeping in mind that this is mostly a desktop system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: linux emulation
> On 20/03/2008, Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 08:50 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > I've read the handbook and just about anything on linux compat under > > > > freebsd. I am particularly interested in drivers under linux compat. > > > > > > emulation allows execution of normal linux programs, not drivers > > > > > > Ok. So input devices won't work either? I refer to this page here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/unreal_tournament/ > > > > What is the driver mentioned here? > > > > Incidentally, what is the difference between linux and bsd drivers? The > > drivers in question are manufacturers binaries for linux in an RPM; > > hence the question. Plus I came across several notations regarding > > building or using drivers from linux in bsd (linux-kmod-compat port, the > > above link, and more). > > > > For reference I'm merely very curious, not argumentative on this. Cheers > > for any answers offered. > > On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 02:14 -0700, Patrick C wrote: > A binary is compiled assembly/code. The binary still needs to interact > with low-level hardware using system calls, handling interrupts, etc. > in a way that the operating system understands. Applications are more > portable and less operating- and hardware-specific than drivers, which > require a good understanding of the operating system and the hardware. > > Please read the current status of linux-kmod-compat, it specifically > indicates it is for USB drivers. USB is a simplified bus where the > low-level access is handled in the same manner for every device so > it's simpler to port the driver. > > Glide in your case is an API/Library, not an actual driver. Libraries > are very similar to applications in how they act with the operating > system/environment, and are a must-have on running Linux binaries. > This is supported and works well. > > -Patrick > Ok, got that. I read that about the linux-kmod-compat, but I thought that it might have been the beginning of something beautiful (pardon poetics...). I was unaware of the glide situation though. Does anyone know what the differences are between linux and bsd at the system calls, interrupts, etc? I understand that there are some software which accesses hardware at this sort of level which has been adapted as well (raid controllers mainly), so surely there must be some information on what can enable this to work. What this discussion has got me thinking on is a "wrapper" (ie NDIS), since the drivers are not from the linux oss community but from the actual manufacturer I'm assuming (forgive me, please... :) ) that this may be a feasible solution. In which case, then, I'm going to have to "map" calls and create device nodes. Should be simple then, no? ;P! I'd love to hear any more suggestions or links to info on any of this, thanks guys. Also, on the linux compat- am I correct in my observation that you have to actually chroot to enable the running of a linux binary? Enter the file structure of the linux compat? Or can you just run it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: linux emulation
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 08:50 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I've read the handbook and just about anything on linux compat under > > freebsd. I am particularly interested in drivers under linux compat. > > emulation allows execution of normal linux programs, not drivers Ok. So input devices won't work either? I refer to this page here: http://people.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/unreal_tournament/ What is the driver mentioned here? Incidentally, what is the difference between linux and bsd drivers? The drivers in question are manufacturers binaries for linux in an RPM; hence the question. Plus I came across several notations regarding building or using drivers from linux in bsd (linux-kmod-compat port, the above link, and more). For reference I'm merely very curious, not argumentative on this. Cheers for any answers offered. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
linux emulation
I've read the handbook and just about anything on linux compat under freebsd. I am particularly interested in drivers under linux compat. 1. How do I install the drivers for all users under linux compat? 2. Is it possible for freebsd programs to use the linux drivers? 3. Anything I should be aware of before I embark on this adventure? In particular, I'm interested in drivers for multimedia cards and input devices. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
removable devices auto umounting
I'm just looking into the removable device issue for freebsd. I can see its easy enough to auto mount a removable device (although I could use some help getting sd/xd devices working with my card reader), but the removal seems to come unstuck. I have some barely literates on my systems, so I do need to work this out. Is it possible to use a forced umount to do this? What are the options here? Also how do I get the memory card reader working? I believe I'm using a texas instruments internal here. If its in a hidden document somewhere a link would be helpful. I have tried looking at the messages, but its not all that clear, and so far all I've found in searches is for usb card readers. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Calendar Solution?
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 20:24 +0100, herbert langhans wrote: > Maybe this is the thing for you: > http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php > Needs Apache and an sql-server. I use it for years now and like the function > what sends you an email before the appointment. > > Cheers > herbs > > > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:29:14 -0500 > "B. Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > Anyone have any suggestions for a 'corporate' calendar? Either ports > > or DIY or other .. > > > > I am trying to get them on the idea of an OSX server.. > > > > They are using words like 'Exchange' and 'Externally Hosted Exchange' > > servers.. > > (just sends a chill down my spine.. ) > > > > We have our own email server with qmail, dovecot, squirrelmail.. etc > > but no calendar.. > > > > any suggestions or opinions welcome. > > > > Thanks in advance > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > I'm having a similar problem. It all depends on what you want it to do exactly. Do you need to use a client? Do you need to access it from the web? Does it need a db backend for ease of use? Many Caldav solutions require Tomcat- if you need or want to use Apache you'll need to work out which connector to use. Mod_JK in ports is the only one there that will build to my knowledge. Evolution claims full CalDAV compatibility, but doesn't and will not work with Darwin Calendar Server and most others. Bedework looks good, uses Tomcat, and appears to offer interacting calendars. I'm using Evolution myself for the fact that it will integrate into the entire Gnome desktop. But apparently others offer better support than Evolution for CalDav purposes- sunbird keeps popping up in most of the CalDav sites. Having traversed nearly the entire CalDAV server range (Horde has apparently been discontinued) I found none that worked for what I needed, but that may not be the case for you. I'm building my own system for an entirely customised purpose. It'll be a few months before I'm finished and may or may not be CalDAV per se. But if you post your exact requirements and limitations then I could probably help you find the right system. Also, Darwin Calendar Server would be the same server you'll be using on Leopard (with a lot more support for it mind), so if you want to start there it would help you work out your OSX Server later down the track. Good luck - you'll need it... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: hardware problem
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 20:38 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > hi guys, >just take every part out and dust with a brush, reseat the m-board > and hook on the power supply, switch on the power and both fans spin > for quite a while, seeing this, I switch it off and start to connect > all the cables. After all is done, i turn on the power again, and this > time it stop again after a short spin. and I looked everywhere on the > board and found some silverish dust on the board, i dust it away, but > this time, the fans and the LED light on the board never spin or lit > up when i switch it on, i wonder if something i did kill the power > this time, any idea?? thank you for your help. > > TFC > Looks like that little bit of dust was making the system still seem like its alive. I'd say its well and truely dead now- what do you reckon guys? New M/B and CPU... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 08:25 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > Da Rock writes: > > > > Mercedes? :) > > > > > > Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second -- > > > Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence. > > > > > > Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wasted or Bite My Wallet. > > > > > > > I wouldn't insult a quality car like that. I've heard nothing but > > good stories about them and it's something I'd buy myself. Very > > safe to drive... > > Quite possible. However, if one looks at Consumer Reports the > "well engineered" German brands are in the lower (worse) half, and > sometimes third, of the reliability ratings. Volkswagen is better, > but not by great heaping gobs. > > > Robert Huff > > > > I had an epiphany the other day- Range Rover! Big, expensive, and ALWAYS in the shop. I knew another fella who gave it up for another make after having no end of trouble with his. He was not the only one either... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, > > > and never uses standard parts if they can help it. > > > > Mercedes? :) > > Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second -- > Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence. > > Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wasted or Bite My Wallet. > I wouldn't insult a quality car like that. Ive heard nothing but good stories about them and it's something I'd buy myself. Very safe to drive... Ok. How about the new VW beetle? I've heard they're crap- not as good as the original, expensive, poorly designed, break down a lot, and driven by little teeny boppers with money to waste buying just for the frilly stuff. Does that fit the bill? We'll take a vote- all in favor say aye... :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 21:37 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, > > > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... > > > > > > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? > > > > > > I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would > > > be the case if they had to be "rebooted" a couple of times a day. > > > > Do you have a better suggestion? I'd be happy to use it ;) Maybe a > > Sigma? > > [dropping the list] > > Never heard of Sigma as a vehicle. > > You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, and > never uses standard parts if they can help it. > Mercedes? :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... > > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? > > I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would > be the case if they had to be "rebooted" a couple of times a day. Do you have a better suggestion? I'd be happy to use it ;) Maybe a Sigma? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 19:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > >> > >> what is "desktop system" and "server system"? > >> > >> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. > >> ___ > > > > > > > > FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are > > technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from > > competing as a desktop. > > There is at least very strong consensus in the OpenBSD community and much > less in FreeBSD community that the systems are developed by developers for > the developer and alike on the base of the > technical merit not cheap tricks. I am as a non-developer just getting a > free ride. FreeBSD is a free system and doesn't have customers to please. > It is developed by the people in their spare time to the best possible for > their needs. (They are not necessary the same as yours and mine) > > > Those Desktop users that you want to attract would not benefit from FreeBSD > nor FreeBSD community would benefit from them. > > > > Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times > > people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say > > FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter > > in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. > > If you knew how to alter permissions and do auto-mount you would see too. > > > > If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free > > software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from > > what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I > > believe. > > Please, do not even go there. > ALSA vs OSS story is one of the darkest chapters in the Linux development. > Read this before we go any further > > http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5 > > > > Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed > > on Mac and windows. > > yes. So what? OS X is life style operating system. My friends in Apple are > making living by pleasing their customers. > > > I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD > > kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent > > benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks > > presentation? > > > > What is your point? Your desktop computer is faster than mine? That is > irrelevant for the discussion about FreeBSD on the desktop. > By the way, I proudly say as mostly OpenBSD user that OpenBSD scales the > worst out of all *nix operating systems. > > > > > I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the > > impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the > > direction of FreeBSD. > > > > There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size > > of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to > > allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the > > desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. > > It does on mine. You have to know how to configure the damn thing. > > > >I guess there > > must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing > > Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. > > The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev > > communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and > > configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all > > the others. > > Hence the PC-BSD, DekstopBSD, TrueBSD, RuFreeSBIE, MidnightBSD and all the > others. There are in total over 40 distros based on FreeBSD. At least 10 > of them that I know of have as a stated goal to be customized easy to use > FreeBSD installation on the Desktop. > > > > > >There are comparatively very few desktop development > > projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. > > > With all due respect you are just ill informed. Look the above. > Sorry to burst your bubble but PC-BSD is much easier to install and run > than your Ubuntu. If PC-BSD/FreeBSD had a native Flash supports and if > they > succeed to automatic creation of PBI for all 18000 ports PC-BSD would > smoke the Ubuntu as the number one Grand Ma Milly OS by a mile. > > > > Cheers, > Predrag I agree with that, but there in lies the point- they don't. Its a shame that the definition of systems revolves around piece of crap software that everyone else has, but there you have it. So by desktop we mean easy to use, off the shelf that does what people want which they can get elsewhere- a home system. Workstation is a machine for the office with "real" IT people administering them. Which is primarily what FreeBSD stands for atm. And I don't believe it should change either. > > P.S. I am not trying to participate in a flame war or a troll so this is > going to be my last message on this thread. > > > >Henc
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 01:48 +, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > > > what is "desktop system" and "server system"? > > > > AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. > > ___ > > > > FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are > technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from > competing as a desktop. For some time I ran a small suite of FreeBSD > desktops for general passing users (community center for alternative > type people) and sometimes it was quite difficult to defend FreeBSD > against requests for Linux. > > Some desktop functionality that is available for other OS's is simply > not available to FreeBSD. Recent Debian, Windows and Mac all do hotplug > USB for instance. The key point is that if you unplug without unmounting > you don't get system crashes. I've read some of the threads that say > it's not at all easy to write it into FreeBSD but it is an important > difference and it shows up some community and attitude differences. > > Imagine if computers were cars. FreeBSD would be a super reliable car or > maybe truck that gets built and maintained and used by people who like > to spend most of their time hanging out in the workshop. You have to > lift the bonnet and press a button to get it going but they see that as > trivial. But the person who has to get the kids down to the supermarket > and get the shopping done before hubby comes home for tea is really not > going to understand that there is any comparison with the system where a > key is within easy reach of the drivers seat. > > Nobody in the FreeBSD workshop can see the point of doing a quite > intricate rewiring task because the truck works so fantastically well in > other respects. > > Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times > people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say > FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter > in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. > > If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free > software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from > what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I > believe. Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed > on Mac and windows. I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD > kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent > benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks > presentation? > > I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the > impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the > direction of FreeBSD. > > There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size > of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to > allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the > desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. I guess there > must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing > Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. > The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev > communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and > configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all > the others. There are comparatively very few desktop development > projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. Hence rolling your own X > and desktop setup in FreeBSD let alone automounter and a hundred other > things. > > This is not meant to be an anti-FreeBSD rant, I love FreeBSD, it has > some sort of quality and ease of use which I find hard to define, which > is different to the 'ease of use' of windows or ubuntu (see I can't even > give them capital letters) and which I wouldn't swap for anything. But I > do think there is also some refusal or maybe just lack of resource > > > to engage with a completely different view of what computers are > for that the vast majority of the computer population has, an attitude > exemplified by the comment that started me off on this rant. > > Chris > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > I'd agree with nearly all that is said here- for my 2c. It neatly epitomizes what I attempted to present. When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows, a tank for Linux, and Fort Knox for BSD systems... The reason for this is that I find BSD systems are hard to break, stable as hell, may never need to reboot if setup correctly and used r
Is there any print enabled graphic design software?
I'm trying to get away from Adobe products (which are becoming rather agressive towards OSS), but I need to find a graphic software that can handle CMYK properly. I've tried GIMP (which has great tools) but it doesn't handle CMYK files- it only uses sRGB. I've tried Krita, but it doesn't work as well as GIMP tool wise, and I can't specify images sizes very well at all- it only works on pixel size, not inches or dpi/ppi. Therefore both are great for designing screen images, but not printed images. I even tried using GIMP to design (using CMYK colours here), and reformatting to a CMYK file with Krita. Problem with this is that the image size doesn't work once reformatted, plus I need to export to pdf which neither do and so printing to pdf means the final image size is an A4 and god knows what dpi. Anything better out there? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 16:50 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to > > > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > > from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best > > > "desktop" OS I've ever had the pleasure to use. > > > > Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the > > is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not > > automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be > > tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you > > and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but > > others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain. > > More enabled . . . ? > > You have to be "more enabled" to use *anything* that isn't preinstalled > by the hardware vendor. That basically means anything that isn't MS > Windows or MacOS X. After all, Linux, FreeBSD, Plan 9 . . . none of them > are "automatically installed" on any computer, with rare exceptions. > > Considering the original question of the OP wouldn't you agree that this might be their background? > > > > Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better > > described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd > > say thats a fair statement. > > I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >> > > > >> by not being linux at all. > > > > > > > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is > > > FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends > > > from the user how it's being used. > > > > True. But looking at it from a newbie point of view the statement helps > > give it perspective. I have to translate for people all the time and I > > know this works. > > > > We all know that FreeBSD whoops linux's ass, but as to how it does this > > is beyond most newer users. :P > > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best > "desktop" OS I've ever had the pleasure to use. > Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain. Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd say thats a fair statement. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> by not being linux at all. > > > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is > FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends > from the user how it's being used. True. But looking at it from a newbie point of view the statement helps give it perspective. I have to translate for people all the time and I know this works. We all know that FreeBSD whoops linux's ass, but as to how it does this is beyond most newer users. :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:48 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Hi. > > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? > > by not being linux at all. FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is more of a desktop. That said, because it is a server its a hell of a lot more stable. I know of an old server that was up for over a year and half without rebooting. That has its drawbacks in that the fancy software like in some multimedia takes longer to become available, but as an X box it'll run better than others. For reference, FreeBSD doesn't run linux software- it uses different software distributions. But it can run some using a built in emulator- but not off the bat, it has to be installed the "BSD way". ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Still looking for a calendar server...
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 22:59 -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Monday 18 February 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt said: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Da Rock > > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but > > > getting tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm > > > using mod_jk but it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet. > > > > > > What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem > > > is mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm > > > wondering if we can "borrow" the headers from another source. > > > > You can borrow whatever headers you need to get the code to > > compile. You may find that it would work a lot better though if you > > change the xattr.h include to: > > > > include > > > > The problem will be in the link stage. If the libraries that you > > have linked in do not contain the functions that are defined in > > xattr.h then you will get link failures. > > > > However I don't really understand why your having problems. The > > SF page for this, here: > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/moddavacl > > > > claims: > > > > "Operating System: All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes)" > > > > This would indicate a configure script that understands > > FreeBSD is present. It sounds to me like you are not > > following the instructions included with the mod_dav_acl module > > to build it properly. What exactly are you doing? Could you > > post the steps your going through to build this? > > > > I had thought Mirosoft deprecated all the webdav stuff in > > future IIS servers - maybe there is a lack of interest in the > > industry now? > > > > Ted > > He also might want to look at Horde. You can install from > www/horde-meta and choose the kronolith module. > > >From their website: > > "The Kronolith calendar provides a robust web-based calendar for any > number of users or groups, with the ability to show any number of > calendars in a single overlaid view. Users can create any number of > calendars and grant read, edit, or full permissions to any user, > group, or any combination thereof." > > Beech > I understand what you're saying about the usability of the code acroos platforms, however, the code will only work on systems which support extended attributes, it must have that header file, and the developer has refused to build for anything beyond debian (God knows why!). It has been pointed out in the forums there (Only 3 postings and that includes myself... hmmm. What does that tell you?) that while the sourceforge system says its cross platform that it doesn't work cross platforms, and so should be corrected- and that person was building for bsd too. So, where does that leave us? Incidentally, since when do we care what BS Microcrap is doing with their toy servers? (I've had plenty of crap go on with MS and their systems, my laptop manufacturer only supports them and gives me curry every time I ask for warranty, and MS cancelled my hotmail account to boot. Apparently I transgressed, but I haven't, I have important emails I can't access now, and their system has no way to contact me with a reply as to what I've done- life is wonderful!) The question remains is does kronolith provide caldav access for evolution, and does it connect via apache? I'm currently trying to get bedework working, but I'm having trouble linking Tomcat 6 and Apache (Bedework appears to fit all these criteria that I require). I can access Tomcat directly, and Apache is ok, I checked the config for the mod_jk and I think its working, but when I try to navigate to Tomcat via Apache I get a 404 from Tomcat. Does anyone know how to fix this? It seems I have the connector working and there is something in Tomcat to configure but I don't know what. Thanks for the feedback guys- its all been helpful. I hope I'll have an answer soon which I'll post back, and maybe make up a how-to, package or port. Keep it all coming... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 19:28 -0700, James wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:54 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 18:07 -0700, James wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 10:54 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > I'm trying to setup a tomcat server using Apache as the frontend. As > > > > usual, I'm having trouble (which is why I haven't bothered before, and > > > > given Tomcat apps a wide berth). Can someone let me know where I'm going > > > > wrong? I have setup inclusions in the httpd.conf file to use similar > > > > settings to other modules, etc. Therefore my worker.properties and > > > > mod_jk.conf is under /extras. > > > > > > > > I know something works because they are reflected when I navigate > > > > to /webapps on the Apache server. > > > > > > > > mod_jk.conf: > > > > # Replace jsp-hostname with the hostname of your JSP server, as > > > > # specified in workers.properties. > > > > # > > > > > > > > JkWorkersFile etc/apache22/extra/workers.properties > > Is this line right? Shouldn't it be /etc/apache22 etc, or am I just > misthinking? > > > > > > > JkLogFile /var/log/jk.log > > > > JkShmFile /var/log/jk-runtime-status > > > > JkLogLevel error > > > > > > > > # Sample JkMounts. Replace these with the paths you would > > > > # like to mount from your JSP server. > > > > JkMount /*.jsp localhost > > > > JkMount /servlet/* localhost > > > > JkMount /examples/* localhost > > > > > > > > > > > > # Map encoded urls > > > > > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > > > > > > > # Map subdirectory > > > > > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > workers.properties: > > > > # Incredibly simple workers.properties file, intended for connecting > > > > # to one host, via AJP13. See the tomcat documentation for > > > > # information on more exotic configuration options. > > > > # > > > > # Change jsp-hostname to the hostname of your JSP server. > > > > # > > > > worker.list=localhost > > > > workers.tomcat_home=/usr/local/apache-tomcat6.0 > > > > workers.java_home=/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0 > > > > worker.localhost.port=8009 > > > > worker.localhost.host=localhost > > > > worker.localhost.type=ajp13 > > > > worker.localhost.lbfactor=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > I figured I didn't need to worry about the setenv variable as I'm only > > > > testing currently and only need one connector atm. > > > > > > > > Any ideas why I shouldn't be seeing the index.jsp found in the Tomcat > > > > directories? > > > > > > > > I also tried navigating directly using port 8009 with no result either > > > > (And yes, Tomcat has been started- I checked the port using nmap). > > > > > > > > > > > > > The two things I always screw up: permissions and DNS. If > > > your /etc/hosts isn't set up properly, and/or hosts.conf's URL entries > > > aren't correct, weird weird errors can happen. If something is set to > > > 444 instead of 755 (as appropriate), other weirdnesses occur. > > > > > > Are you using a www user? Make sure they're added as appropriate for the > > > file. > > > > > > I know *none* of this may be helpful, but I always check those and I've > > > usually screwed one up. Otherwise, is there anything > > > in /var/log/httpd-error? > > > > You could be right with that, but I think its in my setup somewhere. > > What shows up if I navigate to /webapps is it recognises Apache-Tomcat > > but gives me a 404. I can't navigate directly to Tomcat, but I'm not > > sure I've got it right. 8009 seems to be just for the connector, and > > 8443 does nothing. > > > > It appears to me that I haven't got a directory on Tomcat setup but I > > haven't a clue where to set it. Web.xml seems right, but then I'm not > > sure... > > > > OK. Tomcat is working- I managed to find out how to get direct access to it (had to uncomment a line in server.xml, web.xml). Still no Apache / Tomcat connector though. If I navigate to /webapps it says 404 - although this says the error comes from Apache Tomcat6. Is it the connector config I need to play with or the Tomcat? In either case, what do I need to change? I found through a search that older versions of Tomcat need to have a listener line in the server.xml. Is this true for Tomcat6? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 18:07 -0700, James wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 10:54 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > I'm trying to setup a tomcat server using Apache as the frontend. As > > usual, I'm having trouble (which is why I haven't bothered before, and > > given Tomcat apps a wide berth). Can someone let me know where I'm going > > wrong? I have setup inclusions in the httpd.conf file to use similar > > settings to other modules, etc. Therefore my worker.properties and > > mod_jk.conf is under /extras. > > > > I know something works because they are reflected when I navigate > > to /webapps on the Apache server. > > > > mod_jk.conf: > > # Replace jsp-hostname with the hostname of your JSP server, as > > # specified in workers.properties. > > # > > > > JkWorkersFile etc/apache22/extra/workers.properties > > JkLogFile /var/log/jk.log > > JkShmFile /var/log/jk-runtime-status > > JkLogLevel error > > > > # Sample JkMounts. Replace these with the paths you would > > # like to mount from your JSP server. > > JkMount /*.jsp localhost > > JkMount /servlet/* localhost > > JkMount /examples/* localhost > > > > > > # Map encoded urls > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > # Map subdirectory > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > > > > > workers.properties: > > # Incredibly simple workers.properties file, intended for connecting > > # to one host, via AJP13. See the tomcat documentation for > > # information on more exotic configuration options. > > # > > # Change jsp-hostname to the hostname of your JSP server. > > # > > worker.list=localhost > > workers.tomcat_home=/usr/local/apache-tomcat6.0 > > workers.java_home=/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0 > > worker.localhost.port=8009 > > worker.localhost.host=localhost > > worker.localhost.type=ajp13 > > worker.localhost.lbfactor=1 > > > > > > I figured I didn't need to worry about the setenv variable as I'm only > > testing currently and only need one connector atm. > > > > Any ideas why I shouldn't be seeing the index.jsp found in the Tomcat > > directories? > > > > I also tried navigating directly using port 8009 with no result either > > (And yes, Tomcat has been started- I checked the port using nmap). > > > > > The two things I always screw up: permissions and DNS. If > your /etc/hosts isn't set up properly, and/or hosts.conf's URL entries > aren't correct, weird weird errors can happen. If something is set to > 444 instead of 755 (as appropriate), other weirdnesses occur. > > Are you using a www user? Make sure they're added as appropriate for the > file. > > I know *none* of this may be helpful, but I always check those and I've > usually screwed one up. Otherwise, is there anything > in /var/log/httpd-error? You could be right with that, but I think its in my setup somewhere. What shows up if I navigate to /webapps is it recognises Apache-Tomcat but gives me a 404. I can't navigate directly to Tomcat, but I'm not sure I've got it right. 8009 seems to be just for the connector, and 8443 does nothing. It appears to me that I haven't got a directory on Tomcat setup but I haven't a clue where to set it. Web.xml seems right, but then I'm not sure... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat
I'm trying to setup a tomcat server using Apache as the frontend. As usual, I'm having trouble (which is why I haven't bothered before, and given Tomcat apps a wide berth). Can someone let me know where I'm going wrong? I have setup inclusions in the httpd.conf file to use similar settings to other modules, etc. Therefore my worker.properties and mod_jk.conf is under /extras. I know something works because they are reflected when I navigate to /webapps on the Apache server. mod_jk.conf: # Replace jsp-hostname with the hostname of your JSP server, as # specified in workers.properties. # JkWorkersFile etc/apache22/extra/workers.properties JkLogFile /var/log/jk.log JkShmFile /var/log/jk-runtime-status JkLogLevel error # Sample JkMounts. Replace these with the paths you would # like to mount from your JSP server. JkMount /*.jsp localhost JkMount /servlet/* localhost JkMount /examples/* localhost # Map encoded urls SetHandler jakarta-servlet # Map subdirectory SetHandler jakarta-servlet workers.properties: # Incredibly simple workers.properties file, intended for connecting # to one host, via AJP13. See the tomcat documentation for # information on more exotic configuration options. # # Change jsp-hostname to the hostname of your JSP server. # worker.list=localhost workers.tomcat_home=/usr/local/apache-tomcat6.0 workers.java_home=/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0 worker.localhost.port=8009 worker.localhost.host=localhost worker.localhost.type=ajp13 worker.localhost.lbfactor=1 I figured I didn't need to worry about the setenv variable as I'm only testing currently and only need one connector atm. Any ideas why I shouldn't be seeing the index.jsp found in the Tomcat directories? I also tried navigating directly using port 8009 with no result either (And yes, Tomcat has been started- I checked the port using nmap). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Still looking for a calendar server...
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 00:26 +0100, Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 + > Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that > > will work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, > > but they are not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means > > evolution can't use it, and evolution won't budge either- so a > > mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle (probably with others). > > I'm currently looking for a caldav/calendar server myself. There are > actually quite a few, but I guess a lot won't met your specific > requirements. To name a few: > > caldav: > - bedework > - davical > - zimbra > - cosmo > > webdav: > - horde > - phpcalendar > > Bedework seems to be a nice choice, I haven't found a way to integrate > tomcat into LDAP yet. But I'm not familiar with tomcat, so that's to be > expected. Davical doesn't seem to care about the access rights I > configured in the web interface, a bug I guess. > > > So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction > > (mod_caldav), but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've > > requested support on the forum their at sourceforge, but I have had > > no response for over a week, and no responses have been issued since > > april 2006. > > I didn't know that such a module existed, I'll look into it! :) > > Jan-Hendrik Zab I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but getting tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm using mod_jk but it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet. What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem is mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm wondering if we can "borrow" the headers from another source. I haven't checked zimbra or cosmo properly yet, but at first glance it appeared they didn't quite have what I wanted. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Still looking for a calendar server...
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:52:58 +1300 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:21:44AM +, Da Rock wrote: >> >> I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that will >> work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they are >> not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use it, >> and evolution won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught in >> the middle (probably with others). >> > > You could try Bedework http://www.bedework.org/ and see if that fits > with what you want. However, it requires Java Web container to live > in. > > Cheers. > -- > Jonathan Chen > -- > "In mathematics you don't understand things. >You just get used to them." > - Johann von Neumann > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" It looks almost perfect, but once again I have been stumbled. I need to setup tomcat to get it working, and tomcat is now installed, but the apache connector is the tough point again- I'm trying to install mod_webapp as per instructions here (http://www.osnews.com/story/3558), but the port breaks with missing includes. It appears FreeBSD just doesn't want to be a calendar server! I am chasing either the developer or another poor soul trying to get the mod_dav_acl (which is required by mod_caldav) to work on anything other than linux. Once this hurdle is worked out then the caldav module might work very well. As for bedework I'll keep on that track- I have to get somewhere eventually! One way or the other At the end I'll post the result, and maybe I'll work on a port or something. _ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&referral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Still looking for a calendar server...
I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that will work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they are not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use it, and evolution won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle (probably with others). So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction (mod_caldav), but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've requested support on the forum their at sourceforge, but I have had no response for over a week, and no responses have been issued since april 2006. So now I'm wondering where to start: is it possible to build on this code to achieve what I want? Does anyone know where to get help developing an Apache module? (especially seeing as this will be my first attempt at c++ programming) Current issues with this module atm is a missing xattr.h file. I'm wondering if it can be changed to support the extended attributes natively in freebsd ufs2. I'd also like to consider using mysql or other db as a backend. I'm scouring the script as of now, and I figure that an Apache module will be more stable and easier to administer. Any help would be appreciated here. Cheers _ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&referral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: FTP installation problem.
> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:02:36 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FTP installation problem. > > Hello, > > I was planning stepping over from Linux to BSD. I trying to install FreeBSD > using the minimal boot cd over FTP. In the installation menu I select that I > do not wish to use IPv6, and that I do wish to use DHCP. I sure I have > selected the correct Network card. Although after this my DHCP settings have > bin found correctly the installation program reports me that it cannot > resolve the name of the server (I ve tried more than one) > > I did not find anything special on the second console nor scrolling up with > scroll lock. My internet connection is working. > > Does anybody have a solution to my problem? > > Thank you, > Righard > > P.S. is there a way to go to a console during installation to tweak some > settings like I used doing in Archlinux? Maybe then I can get the connection > working by hand. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I have had a similar problem. I believe it depends on the release you are installing- some newer ones aren't supported on older EOL mirrors I think. What release are you trying? _ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&referral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: X configuration errors (OT)
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:17:37 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: X configuration errors > > Texas Phillip Gray Condreay wrote: > >> Running FreeBSD 6.3 on an old Compaq 8100 with a standard nvidia >> graphics card, x has recognized the card and read >> "new driver is 'nv'" >> before attempting to load "nv" and failing. It then went on to tell me >> I didn't have a screen. The log file reports that the os failed to >> check pci ports on startup, however, pciconf -l -cv returns an accurate >> list. I do have a screen and would like to make x realize that. Help? > > "No screens found" is usually a rather general error, and means that > no usable configuration information has been found that X believe is > sane enough to attempt to start a display with. What else from > /var/log/Xorg.0.log might give you a clue? > > Did you run xorgcfg(1)? Which configuration file is being used? > Have you tried the "vesa" driver? Sorry for several questions, > but maybe something will click. Xorg configuration is a tad magical; > not difficult after you've done it a few times, but not exactly, err, > intuitive (not sure that's what I mean exactly, tho) if you're not > completely immersed in the documentation. > > HTH, > > Kevin Kinsey > -- > Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. > Professionals built the Titanic. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Pardon the intrusion on this thread, but your signature warrants it. Given my current circumstances it has given me new life and hope. The moral of this, then, is you never know who you can inspire with words- so choose them carefully and share them with the world. Thank you. _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: 550 operation not permitted
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:57:23 +0800 > CC: > Subject: 550 operation not permitted > > I have set FTP to anonymous but i can't move it and delete, now how shold i > solve this problem. > > #pw adduser ftp > #mkdir /home/ftp > #chown ftp:ftp /home/ftp > > when i move it or delete it would display: > > 550 operation not permitted > > Frank 邱彥翔 > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: yanshyan > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Did you set up freebsd to allow anonymous ftp? Or are you logged in to ftp? Just to start at the beginning... :) _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: howto use Konqueror as root while another user ?
> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:30:51 + > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: howto use Konqueror as root while another user ? > >> >> hi >> >> howto use Konqueror as root while another user from the wheel group ? >> I've tried kdesu konqueror, but it doesn't work and I get a lot of errors. >> I'm using freeBSD 6.3 with KDE 3.5 >> > > There's an item on the KDE menu for this. I'm at work now so can't check > exactly where, but one of the items near the bottom of the main menu - > Useful Links or something IIRC. It's on the second, or even thrid level > menu and the item is called something like ''File Manager (Superuser)''. > Selecting it pops up a dialogue asking for the root password. > > Alternatively, on the Run dialogue there is an option (checkbox?) to run > as a different user. > > HTH > > Regards, > > Mark > > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I believe its under system->file or utilities. And yes, it is few levels deep so look for it carefully. _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:34:21 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > > Interestingly enough, I just did a quick perusal of the URLs I frequent, > and virtually all of them, in one form or another, asked for 'Flash'. > Even 'sourceforge.net' greeted me with this friendly message: > > > You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all > content on this page. Do you want to download this plug-in now? > > > IMHO, for an individual to state that Flash is not a relevant issue > simply because they choose not to employ it, is similar to patient > claiming that cancer research is a waste of time simply because they > are not afflicted with the condition. > > -- > Gerard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > One of the pleasures of reading old letters is the knowledge that they > need no answer. > > George Gordon, Lord Byron > I consider it rather funny that a site for the promotion of OSS is using a product that is distinctly the opposite of that! :) _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Your message to macfilmmakers awaits moderator approval
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:37:59 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FW: Your message to macfilmmakers awaits moderator approval > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 08:08:34AM +, Da Rock wrote: >> >> Dear God this is getting ridiculous! Is there anyway this can be stopped? >> This is just plain nuts- one failure on one list is now spilling into >> another. >> >> What can we do? My mailbox is filling up real fast and hotmail gives me 5Gb! > > Adjust your mail filter to discard everything from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) My point being won't this eventually overwhelm the lists? _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:21:12 +1300 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 07:51:24AM +, Da Rock wrote: > [...] >> But are you getting 2 of them? And not just seconds apart- several days >> apart? > > Yes, for every post I make I get a delayed notification and then a > failure notification; sometimes days apart, sometimes all in one go. > -- > Jonathan Chen > -- > Jesus saves. >Allah forgives. > Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I just sent an email to the postmaster of the ones failing. As for my duos I just got a repeat of the other days postings- from everyone. _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FW: Your message to macfilmmakers awaits moderator approval
Dear God this is getting ridiculous! Is there anyway this can be stopped? This is just plain nuts- one failure on one list is now spilling into another. What can we do? My mailbox is filling up real fast and hotmail gives me 5Gb! > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:42:05 -0600 > Subject: Your message to macfilmmakers awaits moderator approval > > Your mail to 'macfilmmakers' with the subject > > Mail System Error - Returned Mail > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Post by non-member to a members-only list > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:40:45 +1300 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 07:30:43AM +, Da Rock wrote: >> >> I am getting a serious case of deja vu here- anyone else? >> >> I've gotten a whole bunch of these nearly 2 days after the message was sent. >> Variations include delays and failures. Plus I'm getting repeats of old >> posts from the past few days- what the hell is going on? Is it the freebsd >> server reposting or another gone haywire? Or hasn't my message gone through? >> I've received no reply to this post so it is possible, I'm not sure about >> others- can anyone verify? >> > > Yes, I'm getting them too. It's yet another misconfigured server - there > are a lot of dummies out there with big lists. It's nothing to do with > @freebsd.org. Complain to the site sending you the email. > > Cheers. > -- > Jonathan Chen Once is dumb luck. > Twice is coincidence. > Three times and Somebody Is Trying To Tell You Something. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" But are you getting 2 of them? And not just seconds apart- several days apart? _ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
I am getting a serious case of deja vu here- anyone else? I've gotten a whole bunch of these nearly 2 days after the message was sent. Variations include delays and failures. Plus I'm getting repeats of old posts from the past few days- what the hell is going on? Is it the freebsd server reposting or another gone haywire? Or hasn't my message gone through? I've received no reply to this post so it is possible, I'm not sure about others- can anyone verify? Feel free to offer some advice on this post too as I have had no response and I'm still VERY stuck. Cheers From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:03:00 -0800 Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, due to being unable to connect successfully to the destination mail server. freebsd-questions@freebsd.org --Forwarded Message Attachment--From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:20:58 + Subject: Darwin Calendar Server not starting - Kerberos problem I've just been trying to get a calendar server running for my network, and have tried a couple of options including webcalendar, and an apache calDAV module (this won't build due to a lack of xattr.h. I ended trying to build the Darwin Calendar Server based on these instructions (http://www.royhooper.ca/blog/articles/2007/07/07/installing-the-darwin-calendar-server-on-freebsd) which were quite reasonable, and which I finally worked out (see freebsd-ports list). But it won't start. It loops saying that kerberos is not supported. According to the instructions, kerberos needs to be there, but not configured. So I didn't configure it originally, but when it failed I tried configuring it. I started it, but it fails again saying its incorrectly configured, and I have no idea whats wrong. Apparently the database is not operational or something which I can't work out as I have no idea about kerberos and I followed the instructions in the handbook. Any ideas? What info do I need to post? Thanks in advance guys _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:16:56 +0100 > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > > On Wednesday 13 February 2008 00:27:53 Da Rock wrote: >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:50:40 -0500 >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? >>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Jonathan McKeown wrote: >>>> On Monday 11 February 2008 22:26, Chuck Robey wrote: >>>>> All you folks who are focussing on YouTube are (purposefully? I don't >>>>> know) the fact that with just about half of the entire Web using flash >>>>> in one way or antoehr, not using Flash is a huge problem, as anyone who >>>>> browses without a flashplayer knows. >>>> >>>> Just to provide a counterpoint to this sweeping generalisation, I browse >>>> without a Flash player and it's never caused me any problem at all. >>>> >>>> There are a few sites which don't work without Flash. Having checked on >>>> a number of occasions, I've found (and I stress this is a personal >>>> opinion) that heavy use of Flash is a fairly reliable marker of a site I >>>> wouldn't be interested in whatever publishing techniques were used. >>>> >>>> It's rather like the old saying in the British advertising industry: >>>> only sing in an ad if you have nothing to say. >>>> >>>> How does Flash fit in with accessibility guidelines? In many countries, >>>> a commercial site which doesn't degrade gracefully when viewed with (eg) >>>> Lynx may fall foul of legislation protecting people with disabilities >>>> such as visual impairment. >>> >>> You know, there are some folks out there who are still using their old >>> M32 TTY's, and they can't understand why any folks would need mouses. >>> Those of us who have successfully made the move to the 21st century can >>> tell them, but honestly, most of us are very tired of hearing the same >>> hoary old excuses why things aren't necessary. The majority of folks >>> doing browsing today aren't impressed that maybe some 3rd world country >>> is unhappy with flash sites, they just want their flash sites to work, >>> and ours don't. Why don't they? Because everytime someone comes up with >>> a workable plan, all the real cave-men out there trot out there >>> war-stories, and bore us all to death with their memoirs, and endlessly >>> recursive arguments. Everytime they get proven wrong on one item, they >>> just move the clock back a few months, grab the previous >>> self-justification, and start the argument all back up again. You can't >>> out-last them. >>> >>> I personally tried to fix things, got soundly beaten to death over it >>> (and I WILL NOT try that one again, under pain of death, sorry!). MY >>> flash works here and that's all I will worry about. I can't predict when >>> things will finally improve, maybe when enough folks realize they don't >>> have to put up with this. >>> >>>> In short, I think ``half of the entire Web using Flash'' may be a bit of >>>> an overstatement even if you count Flash ad banners (which frankly I can >>>> do without), and the small number of Flash-only sites I encounter hasn't >>>> caused me temporary inconvenience, never mind ``a huge problem''. >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> ___ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >>> >>> iD8DBQFHsfiQz62J6PPcoOkRAu6/AKCArtXTPwLGKD0xN+r6MG8fk+wEUwCglafp >>> Al9ztYns1ZHDV7IQ8foSU7o= >>> =1fY6 >>> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >>> ___ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebs
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:50:40 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jonathan McKeown wrote: >> On Monday 11 February 2008 22:26, Chuck Robey wrote: >>> All you folks who are focussing on YouTube are (purposefully? I don't >>> know) the fact that with just about half of the entire Web using flash in >>> one way or antoehr, not using Flash is a huge problem, as anyone who >>> browses without a flashplayer knows. >> >> Just to provide a counterpoint to this sweeping generalisation, I browse >> without a Flash player and it's never caused me any problem at all. >> >> There are a few sites which don't work without Flash. Having checked on a >> number of occasions, I've found (and I stress this is a personal opinion) >> that heavy use of Flash is a fairly reliable marker of a site I wouldn't be >> interested in whatever publishing techniques were used. >> >> It's rather like the old saying in the British advertising industry: only >> sing >> in an ad if you have nothing to say. >> >> How does Flash fit in with accessibility guidelines? In many countries, a >> commercial site which doesn't degrade gracefully when viewed with (eg) Lynx >> may fall foul of legislation protecting people with disabilities such as >> visual impairment. > > You know, there are some folks out there who are still using their old M32 > TTY's, and they can't understand why any folks would need mouses. Those of > us who have successfully made the move to the 21st century can tell them, > but honestly, most of us are very tired of hearing the same hoary old > excuses why things aren't necessary. The majority of folks doing browsing > today aren't impressed that maybe some 3rd world country is unhappy with > flash sites, they just want their flash sites to work, and ours don't. Why > don't they? Because everytime someone comes up with a workable plan, all > the real cave-men out there trot out there war-stories, and bore us all to > death with their memoirs, and endlessly recursive arguments. Everytime > they get proven wrong on one item, they just move the clock back a few > months, grab the previous self-justification, and start the argument all > back up again. You can't out-last them. > > I personally tried to fix things, got soundly beaten to death over it (and > I WILL NOT try that one again, under pain of death, sorry!). MY flash > works here and that's all I will worry about. I can't predict when things > will finally improve, maybe when enough folks realize they don't have to > put up with this. > > >> >> In short, I think ``half of the entire Web using Flash'' may be a bit of an >> overstatement even if you count Flash ad banners (which frankly I can do >> without), and the small number of Flash-only sites I encounter hasn't caused >> me temporary inconvenience, never mind ``a huge problem''. >> >> Jonathan >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHsfiQz62J6PPcoOkRAu6/AKCArtXTPwLGKD0xN+r6MG8fk+wEUwCglafp > Al9ztYns1ZHDV7IQ8foSU7o= > =1fY6 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" That was a right pretty speech there, and I agree with the sentiments of moving forward with technology. However, I disagree that this is merely a case backward compatibility. Are you aware that the w3 consortium has web accessibility drafting committee? Consider also the facts that I have brought forward that Adobe has singled out OS's that are not allowed to run Flash Player. Consider also the fact that most designers simply use flash because they can't design properly and use other more accessible methods to achieve the same thing. I agree that a fix needs to be found, but this is not a "cave man" mentality, and we're not bringing up old war stories. The fact that this has not been all that successful given the larger number of sites now designed with flash player 9 which has been the number one problem here. If you have a fix I am sure we would all welcome the knowledge and use it- I certainly would. I merely point out (hopefully reaching some web designers and other flash fans) that flash is not the only way to go, and is certainly not preferable. _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:16:31 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:55:45 + > Da Rock wrote: > >> Hah! Good luck... I never got it work either, There are wrappers all >> other barriers to stop you. And even then it may only work >> intermittently. Correct me if I'm wrong guys > > I hear you. I have used both Firefox and Opera and have never gotten > flash to work as easily and consistently as it does under Windows. When > the added burden of having to use wrappers, etc, it is just not worth > the hassle. I have seen references to system linking files to make > flash work; however, I have better things to do than invest huge > amounts of time attempting to get something to work when it is already > technologically possible to do so without all that individual > intervention. > > It does seem rather ironic that we claim that FreeBSD is a superior OS > to Microsoft's Windows; however, we are unable to get even a common web > add-on like flash to work reliably, consistently. Finger pointing does > not alleviate the situation. > > -- > > Gerard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to > realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. > > Ronald Reagan > I would suggest that since adobe have specifically stated that is not licensed to run on bsd then there could be code to actively sabotage its running. Microsoft have done the same with ASP - can't run ASP and PHP on IIS together and ASP is not meant to run anywhere else (I know apache has something, but a lot of direct support has been outlawed it seems) so there is active warfare on OSS. _ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:11:04 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org > CC: > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > > Dear all, > > all this is very exciting, but as BSD user I was never able to make > the thing work anyway. > > So after all is said and done, would it be possible to have a guide > describing how to make the thing work? > > Thanks, > All the best > > Takis > > > 2008/2/11, Reid Linnemann : >> Written by James on 02/10/08 21:59>> >>> I just tried a portupgrade out and it failed on linux flashplugin. >>> Apparently, none of the file exist in the ftp repositories anymore. Any >>> idea what happened there? >>> >>> James >> >> >> from /usr/ports/UPDATING: >> >> >> 2006-04-08 >> >> Affects: users of www/linux-flashplugin* >> >> Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Reason: >> These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement >> explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD. >> For more details, see >> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/. >> >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Hah! Good luck... I never got it work either, There are wrappers all other barriers to stop you. And even then it may only work intermittently. Correct me if I'm wrong guys _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: failure notice
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:46:24 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FW: failure notice > > Le Tue 12/02/2008, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) disait >> Am Dienstag, 12. Februar 2008 09:03:10 schrieb Da Rock: >>> Anybody know why this would be happening to me? Every time I post I get >>> this back, yet my post shows up on the list. >> >> You're sending from a hotmail.com address, without using a hotmail.com >> server >> as outgoing mail relay. >> >> Someone who's reading this list (and thus gets your messages delivered, even >> though you're not explicitly sending it to them) is boucing your messages >> because of the SPF record for hotmail.com in place, which lists the outgoing >> mail servers that messages from the hotmail.com-domain is allowed to come >> from (and the one you use isn't among them). >> >> Read up on SPF (Sender Policy Framework) to know what's going on behind the >> scenes. > > And the person bouncing the mails should check its settings : SPF must > NOT be applied to header sender address but o enveloppe sender > address. This person is breaking all mailing lists. > > -- > Erwan > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" And that my friends is exactly my point. The freebsd list server is the sender - not me- so it shouldn't be applying those settings. _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FW: failure notice
Anybody know why this would be happening to me? Every time I post I get this back, yet my post shows up on the list. > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:01:14 +0800 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: failure notice > > Hi. This is the deliver program at eyou.com. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 550 MI:SPF mx14,QMCowLDrtR1GUrFHEWiXHA==.52443S2 1202803270 > http://mail.163.com/help/help_spam_16.htm?ip=1032339018&hostid=mx14&time=1202803270 > --- Attachment is a copy of the message. > > --Forwarded Message Attachment-- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:00:08 + > Subject: RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:39:41 +0100 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? >> >>> >>> just send them an e-mail telling them that you are so sorry about the >>> quality >>> of their website that you have to buy somewhere else. >>> >>> Do not send this to the webmaster, send it to the sales department. >>> >>> Those people fight for the clients and give a shit on technology. >>> >> exactly. they simply don't know the problem exist. >> >> i think it could be done more "politely" by asking them of sending their >> product data as text based e-mail (+possible images), because their >> webpage is unusable. >> >> they will have to respond, and more people doing this will give them a lot >> of work :) and will motivate them to think >> > > > This of course doesn't help them if their web designer can't fix the design > issue, which is why it would be an issue in the first place. Or the designer > will say its ok- show statistics which are becoming rapidly outdated and say > its only a minority. > > Reality can be very sad. > _ > What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:39:41 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > >> >> just send them an e-mail telling them that you are so sorry about the >> quality >> of their website that you have to buy somewhere else. >> >> Do not send this to the webmaster, send it to the sales department. >> >> Those people fight for the clients and give a shit on technology. >> > exactly. they simply don't know the problem exist. > > i think it could be done more "politely" by asking them of sending their > product data as text based e-mail (+possible images), because their > webpage is unusable. > > they will have to respond, and more people doing this will give them a lot > of work :) and will motivate them to think > This of course doesn't help them if their web designer can't fix the design issue, which is why it would be an issue in the first place. Or the designer will say its ok- show statistics which are becoming rapidly outdated and say its only a minority. Reality can be very sad. _ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:37:23 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > >> >> And I agree wholeheartedly with both sentiments here. I design sites which I >> hope will reach 98% of the web, including disability access, and will be at >> least readable to browser that might not display content correctly. I think >> its a sham how a lot of web design companies- particularly here in >> Australia- who take the "easy" way out and design poorly based on statistics >> and familiar tools. > > i don't think australia is any different than any other place. Thats very possible. > > the problem is not how popular IE is, but how to make pages readable to > everybody. > > that's what HTML was invented for. Unfortunately, web designers and some clients don't think that way- meanwhile they miss out on valuable clientele (Like ME!). > > include link to www.anybrowser.org on your pages :) Mind you I'm building clients sites this way, as well as my own. The link looks good, but is there a way for me to get as many browsers and platforms to check my pages for errors? I have access to windows (maybe not for much longer, although I may use vmware to solve that) and linux and BSD. I need to check safari and mac, plus others. Any ideas? Anybody with a platform that can check it out for me maybe? _ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:52:26 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > >> >>> this is just example of crap-design, >> >> I agree. Although I don't think everybody will. > > i don't care what others think. > >>> and i simply don't view them.. >> >> I'm afraid it's not that simple. Counterexample: >> >> When I was shopping for a new parachute rig, one of the manufacturers I was >> interested in turned out to have a Flash-only website. I could of course >> have decided not to buy there because their website sucks, but when it >> comes to equipment that's supposed to be going to save my life hundreds of >> times I'd much rather base the decision on the quality of the product than >> on the technical soundness of a website, thank you :-) > > in case of things that has very few producers you are unfortunately true. > in every other, narrowing the offer to half won't be disastrous, and those > who made flash-only website will lose few% of potential clients. > > with well designed website (i don't mean it can't have flash, but it must > be usable without) everybody will read. > > and making all-compatible site isn't difficult. it's very easy And I agree wholeheartedly with both sentiments here. I design sites which I hope will reach 98% of the web, including disability access, and will be at least readable to browser that might not display content correctly. I think its a sham how a lot of web design companies- particularly here in Australia- who take the "easy" way out and design poorly based on statistics and familiar tools. For reference any web designers out there: IE is not the number one browser these days, and is losing ground because IE7 sucks (numerous bugs, including problems with interoperability with MSN Messenger!). Firefox is growing as is OSS. So start changing guys! Adobe would do well to take note too What also can't understand is why web designers can't make better use of the tools available on the servers themselves- they seem to be stuck on simple LAMP or whatever, and can't get around to using the other cool modules offered by apache to reduce load on the server and speed up response. It is a complete system after all. Apologies for my rant, but trying to convince a customer on this is hard as well :) _ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Darwin Calendar Server not starting - Kerberos problem
I've just been trying to get a calendar server running for my network, and have tried a couple of options including webcalendar, and an apache calDAV module (this won't build due to a lack of xattr.h. I ended trying to build the Darwin Calendar Server based on these instructions (http://www.royhooper.ca/blog/articles/2007/07/07/installing-the-darwin-calendar-server-on-freebsd) which were quite reasonable, and which I finally worked out (see freebsd-ports list). But it won't start. It loops saying that kerberos is not supported. According to the instructions, kerberos needs to be there, but not configured. So I didn't configure it originally, but when it failed I tried configuring it. I started it, but it fails again saying its incorrectly configured, and I have no idea whats wrong. Apparently the database is not operational or something which I can't work out as I have no idea about kerberos and I followed the instructions in the handbook. Any ideas? What info do I need to post? Thanks in advance guys _ Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_Future&_m=EXT___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
