Re: Getting current ports and packages.

2005-03-10 Thread Elden Fenison
* abu khaled [03/08/2005 05:58]:
> > I have run cvsups, which I believe gets me the latest ports, is
> > there an equivalent for packages?  I was under the impression that
> > they always got the latest?
> 
> Yes but only what is suitable for your current FreeBSD system is
> always installed when you install a port or add package.

So, I was wondering... does cvsuping your ports effect what's available
to pkg_add then? 

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Re: mutt in XFree86 under FreeBSD

2003-05-30 Thread Elden Fenison
* Elden Fenison [05/29/2003 18:38]:
> * Sheldon Hearn [05/15/2003 18:36]:
> > I can't get mutt-1.5.4 to respond to the "End" key in an XFree86-4.3.0
> > xterm on FreeBSD 5.1-BETA.  It's been happening ever since I started
> > with mutt a few months back, but it's only just pissed me off enough
> > to ask for help.
> 
> I should also add... my aforementioned .Xdefaults settings remap the
> home, end, pageup, and pagedown keys to something most console programs
> understand.

Sorry... duh me. I meant backspace, del, home, end.

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Re: mutt in XFree86 under FreeBSD

2003-05-30 Thread Elden Fenison
* Sheldon Hearn [05/15/2003 18:36]:
> I can't get mutt-1.5.4 to respond to the "End" key in an XFree86-4.3.0
> xterm on FreeBSD 5.1-BETA.  It's been happening ever since I started
> with mutt a few months back, but it's only just pissed me off enough
> to ask for help.

I should also add... my aforementioned .Xdefaults settings remap the
home, end, pageup, and pagedown keys to something most console programs
understand.

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Re: mutt in XFree86 under FreeBSD

2003-05-30 Thread Elden Fenison
* Sheldon Hearn [05/15/2003 18:36]:
> I can't get mutt-1.5.4 to respond to the "End" key in an XFree86-4.3.0
> xterm on FreeBSD 5.1-BETA.  It's been happening ever since I started
> with mutt a few months back, but it's only just pissed me off enough
> to ask for help.

What has generally worked well for me is having this in ~/.Xdefaults

*VT100.Translations: #override \
  BackSpace: string("\010")\n\
  Delete:string("\004")\n\
  Home:  string("\001")\n\
  End:   string("\005")

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Re: FreeBSD 4.7 -> 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)

2003-01-22 Thread Elden Fenison
* Karl M. Joch [01/22/2003 08:29]:
> thats for sure one way, but deleting by date could maybe let some
> stuff back. a touch on any file egardless the reason of it would cause
> the date to change too. so a list of files which are to remove would
> be fine. then there would be the possibility of making a script which
> deletes the files and the updated system would be clean. i think i
> will make a diff of the trees 4.7 and 5.0  and then a script of it.
> but as more people upgrade the question will come up very often i
> think or it will cause lot of troubles with perl when letting the 4.x
> stuff on the box.

There was actually a bunch of stuff left from 4.7... other than uucp and
perl. Looking through it, one could tell that some things were just
renamed on the new release. It sure would be nice if an installworld
would clean that stuff up.

In addition, there were man pages and docs for the old perl located
outside the /bin /sbin /usr/bin /user/sbin directories that needed
cleaning up... as well as some uucp stuff in /var/spool. Also a couple
of periodic jobs relating to uucp.

> i havnt tried till now. have you included the COMPAT 4 option in the
> kernel to still be able to run the 4.x binaries? i succussfull build
> 5.0 on a box running 4.7. till now (except the a.ot -> elf update) it
> always worked in multiuser mode too. sometimes after the first rebbot
> a second installworld was neccecary but it worked. but i will try
> today if installword lets me do it and then post the result. i only
> dont want to travel thousends of km to boxes to do a installworld.

Yes, the COMPAT_FREEBSD4 was compiled into my kernel by default. The
thing is, the installworld does a kernel test to determine if the
running kernel is recent enough. So I don't know how you'd installworld
while on the old 4.7 kernel. In my case, the test failure was indicated
by a segfault. (not the nicest way, but it certainly got it's point
across) 

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Re: FreeBSD 4.7 -> 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)

2003-01-21 Thread Elden Fenison
* Alex [01/21/2003 21:01]:
> > How to safly and completely  remove Perl / UUCP and maybe others which 
> > have been removed from the source tree. UPDATING doesnt mention anything 
> > about it.

I'm no expert... but I just successfully upgraded from 4.7 to 5.0 today.
It didn't seem too hard to just look in /sbin /usr/sbin /bin /usr/bin to
find things that weren't dated with today's date and delete them. The
only stuff that wouldn't have been dated today after a build/install
world would have been old leftovers from 4.7.

Perhaps that was a bit foolhardy, but so far all is well.

> > Furthermore there is need for doing installworld on some boxes far away 
> > in multi user mode. any chance this works?

I did learn one important thing... when the UPDATING doc says to install
the new kernel, then RE-boot into single user mode to install world, it
means it. Just dropping to single user mode without a reboot was not
enough. The installworld refuses to work unless you're actually booted
on the new kernel. And I would highly doubt, that after installing the
new kernel but having the old world that you could boot into anything
BUT single user mode.

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Re: FreeBSD 4.7 -> 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)

2003-01-21 Thread Elden Fenison
* Doug Reynolds [01/21/2003 22:22]:
> according to /usr/src/UPDATING, multiuser updating from 4.7 to 5.0 is
> slim to impossible.

Sorry, I should have clarified... it was the first part of his question
that interested me... and that isn't answered in UPDATING... about
getting rid of the old perl/uucp stuff.

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Re: FreeBSD 4.7 -> 5.0 (Removing Perl/UUCP safly?)

2003-01-21 Thread Elden Fenison
* Alex [01/21/2003 21:01]:
> > How to safly and completely  remove Perl / UUCP and maybe others which 
> > have been removed from the source tree. UPDATING doesnt mention anything 
> > about it.
> 
> > Furthermore there is need for doing installworld on some boxes far away 
> > in multi user mode. any chance this works?
> 
> Are you looking for the Early Adopter's Guide? (its on the main
> webpage)

This seems a little ironic. The Early Adopter's Guide simply points you
to /usr/src/UPDATING... and the original poster said he'd already looked
there... and now you're pointing him back to the Early Adopter's Guide.

I would also like an answer to the original poster's question, but it's
doesn't exist in the Early Adopter's Guide... nor does it seem to exist
in UPDATING.

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