Re: Streaming server
similarly to youtube and provide just link with "Play" to your movies. Personally I have nothing with YouTube except that I constantly wonder how they 'stream', which according to your information, is less than I expected :-) except that it prevents caching, it's not "less than" but "just fine". Today overcomplexity is very popular, but still wrong :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
Comment: Hyper fast realtime audio/video encoder/converter, streaming server good for IP-TV but not very (and overcomplex) for playing few files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
so please test as it's true :) I did test it and indeed it looks that way... OK actually youtube player does not throttle at all - just load as fast as possible into memory while playing at normal speed. Yes but we are now discussing another service here. Imho there is some difference between downloading (and viewing) by HTTP or viewing a YouTube movie thru a YouTube site (and watching a Flash movie instead). Do you mean that providing any movie in Flash format will have the same advantages as it has viewing such a file thru a YouTube server? exactly. you may make a webpage with just link to the movie(s) somewhere, maybe some selector, preview images, whatever you like. it's just matter of that difference. you too may write some javascript/whatever program that will set up the movie playing in the right place on screen, provide stop/start/rev/fd (i'm imprecise as i know little of "modern" web/java/javascript programming :). That's what youtube do, AND do extra effort to lower bandwidth efficiency by preventing caching and storing files ;) possibly because of copyright reasons as someone pointed out. More probably for some other reason, as most files on youtube are just users amateur videos not copyrighted restricted material - while youtube prevent caching everything. There will be no practical difference between playing from FTP/HTTP and this. realplayer do the same thing, and supports both URL's and "live" streaming protocol. So it would be better to forget my issue and rely on the smart settings of the client's movieplayer? exactly! or - if you like "cool" webpage interface just make that webpage similarly to youtube and provide just link with "Play" to your movies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies Oke, but ftp doesn't show the actual file but only downloads it, right? depend what program you use. if you mean "ftp" as /usr/bin/ftp or maybe lftp/ncftp - yes it is. just i don't catch what it has in common with the discussion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
we talked about playing/streaming videos from files. Even streaming from files makes sense in many situations. Please, go back to netbsd or start using linux, at least in linux forums your constant stream of opinion based drivel is most welcome. In here you are poisoning the questions list, especially the archives, for people who really having different opinion than yours and trolling is 2 different things. you are not a judge. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
Yes, you're right. For "static" content, buffering a TCP connection is certainly "good enough." But for live streams and video conferencing, buffering adds latency we talked about playing/streaming videos from files. for IP-TV, videophone, telephone of course only UDP transport make sense ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64
Very specifically that I was getting watchdog time outs and link status up down up on the re nic driver, hopefully 7.2 solves this. hmm i do have re(8) nic with 7.1 (6.3 before) - no problems. strange ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64
I'd say it depends very much on the system's use. For a system which is in production (i.e. doing ongoing work), there is a great deal to be said for not fixing things that aren't broken. if they are not broken - there is nothing to fix. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64
Are you suggesting a user should only upgrade if they are having a problem, or do you just like to contribute more nonsense to the list mostly yes - keep things as is if it works. and it's only nonsense for you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD
1024x600 9" display and an attached USB Huawei E220 dongel for UMTS. I have installed 8-CURRENT and all works as it should, only the inbuild cam is not supported, but I don't neet this at the moment (maybe later when Skype for FreeBSD can do video as well). Matthias, What kind of battery life do you get (with and without WIFI use)? and with/without Huawei E220. it's realy heavy battery drainer, takes much more than WiFi - i have this UMTS interface. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64
I am trying to update 2 7.1 systems to 7.2. sun3# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.2RELEASE 7.2-RELEASE Maybe? Haha ... thank I knew it was something blindly obvious that I was missing ... there be a lesson don't try to upgrade 3 systems at once and watch TV. even more important - why you are upgrading at all. did you find in 7.1 problems that you wanted to solve by moving to 7.2? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server / YouTube
So again, speaking before you research? again unnecessary comments. It's in the terms of use http://www.youtube.com/t/terms The content on the YouTube Website, except all User Submissions i'm not regular youtube watcher and actually i was not aware that there are really anything else than "User Submissions" there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
performing at 100%... While it's not the default behaviour, if you run powerd(8) then yes, the CPU will run slower when it's less utilized. that's extra,and very useful option. anyway even without that modern processor gets MUCH less power just when being halted by hlt instruction. there is still some power used for clock network within chip, and gate oxide leakage, but almost no other gate switching. just using hlt takes down power usage to 1/3-1/5 of full power. reducing clock with turn it down even more. i'm not sure but turning modern processors on lower speed this way (powerd) change voltage down too a bit which even reduces leakage. anyway powerd didn't work well on my laptop last time i tried, but it was with FreeBSD 6, maybe something changed - i will try this. maybe it will add some 10-20 minutes more battery life. anyway lots of power is used by my UMTS modem, and i can't disconnect it as i usually do need the net while using laptop. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
I already have FreeBSD installed. Just wondering if there is a streaming server for it. Hardly can believe that dedicated download (by opening the remote file in a media player) will be more efficient that a streaming server that takes care of bandwidth throttle and average processing time on (http) requests. so please test as it's true :) actually youtube player does not throttle at all - just load as fast as possible into memory while playing at normal speed. look at progress bar below movie window. if your network connection is fast, it quickly gets from beginning to end, while current position mark advances as movie is played. in mplayer you can set buffer size, if you'll set it as large or larger as movie - it will behave the same way with FTP/HTTP provided movie. realplayer do the same thing, and supports both URL's and "live" streaming protocol. i don't know what windoze browsers do given URL with say .avi file - does it have builtin player or just run windoze media player? AFAIK media player can play from URLs too. so - FTP/HTTP do provide exactly the same functionality as "video streaming", but in the same time is cachable by proxies, and easy to download to disk. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
Do you actually read back what you write: you're saying here that when a CPU has only 10% utilization, it'll run slower than when performing at 100%... i said it perform 10 times less work than when 100% utilized. exactly - read back again. I'm giving up ;-) looks like you just want to prove that i'm wrong, nothing else. so give up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
you are funny. Don't ever send me private messages like that. You are a troll who gives harmful and misleading advice. exactly because of sentences like that i think you are funny. sorry - but you moved this to public ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix. You're aware of UDP-based real-time streaming protocols, right? yes it is, but we talked about youtube-like services. it's not UDP based very well). In streaming, lost packets are tolerated, as long as the transmission doesn't "hang" (e.g. due to retransmissions). Here, UDP- based protocols are often a better choice. youtube player, and most players just use big buffer and download as fast as it can until buffer is filled. because of this temporary "hangs" due to packet loss isn't a problem, while you get movies always complete. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server / YouTube
without that youtube nonsense there wouldn't be a youtube anymore it's a copyright agreement not to store the videos on someone's harddrive while watching... you mean videos from youtube are copyrighted? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
^^^ Sorry, mistake: s/file streaming/file download/ when you play file directly from HTTP/FTP source it's streaming too. just much more simple, portable, and cachable by squid/other proxies ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
The CPU = "Central Processing Unit" will perform it's calculations at so many megahertz while at 10% utilization or at 100% utilization. The entire machine no. it will not. all today x86 CPUs reacts on HLT command and doesn't do anything except waiting for interrupt (and saving lots of power). is only performing at 10% of its capacity, in your statement above. no - CPU is performing at 10% of it's capacity. entire machine (disks, network etc.) is another thing. Actually, it's a combination of both running and waiting processes. yes that's true. i missed this - all waiting for machine resource to be available+those which are presently calculating something. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
Not true. top(1) can fully utilize the CPU. Doing so does not put the system under full load. top uses small percentage of CPU power. if it would use all - it WOULD mean full CPU load. load average is how much processes (by average) is not doing calculations because something is not yet available and depends of computer resources(*) - like CPU time, disk I/O results etc.. (*) - for example waiting on tty read is not calculated to load average as it's depends on human not computer. What? exactly what i wrote. reread if you don't understand. anyway i'm quitting this discussion as it's obvious for most people that can read what i mean and what CPU load/utilization mean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
make search key="streaming" in the ports directory. IMHO, streaming versus downloading is more bandwidth intensive overall. and give NO adventages. anyway - file that is available through FTP/HTTP or similar way you can stream too. just without any extra tools both under windoze and unix. under windoze browsers can open movie and play, under unix you can give URL's to mplayer like files or define mplayer as player for .avi,.flv,.rm etc files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
The CPU will perform the same, whether at 10% utilization, or at 100% utilization, the system however won't. That's the difference between load and utilization. still don't understand you. CPU will not perform the same at 10% utilization, it will perform 10 times less than at 100% utilization. CPU load == CPU utilization == how big percentage of time CPU (or CPUs by average) are doing anything except being in idle loop or hlt/waiting for interrupt. it's exactly the same words in that context. load average is how much processes (by average) is not doing calculations because something is not yet available and depends of computer resources(*) - like CPU time, disk I/O results etc.. (*) - for example waiting on tty read is not calculated to load average as it's depends on human not computer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
Regardless from what you said: you _wrote_ CPU _load_, not cpu what's a difference for you between "CPU load" and "CPU utilization"? i mean CPU load not system load. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID
but of course lots of people like to make their life harder No I am not making life harder at all ... I have 6x500gb hard disks I want in a good solid raid 5 type configuration. So you are somewhat wide of the mark in your assumptions. that's a reason. just don't forget that RAID-z is MUCH closer to RAID3 than RAID5. so you get random access speed of single drive, just higher transfer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID
It makes a certain degree of sense. Sometimes things have to be done wrong for us to realize how good we had it before. How would we know how great FreeBSD is if we didn't have Linux? I had to look at ZFS to decide not to use it when I rebuild my storage this week due to a failing drive. you are right. you can't be happy of warm house without getting really cold some time :) that's why it's excellent that ZFS (and few other things) is included in FreeBSD but it's COMPLETELY optional. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: FreeBSD & Software RAID
Ok granted this is a server sat in my house and it is not a "mission" critical server in a large business, personally I have can live with ZFS taking a bit longer vs resilience. simply gmirror and UFS gives the same. much simpler, much faster. but of course lots of people like to make their life harder ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Streaming server
I have some short movies (a la YouTube) that I would like to show as video streams. Presenting them by download is messing up my bandwidth (...). ^ Can someone tell me if there is a simple solution installing such a stream service/server into FreeBDS 7.2? somehow i can't understand you do you mean installing FreeBSD for this will use less bandwidth? about your question - simply use FTP or HTTP for this. This will be RIGHT solution, contrary to youtube nonsense that prevents any caching or simply downloading movie by forcing you to use their flash player. fortunately we have /usr/ports/www/youtube_dl :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
I think Wojciech means '...which is NOT measure of CPU _utilization_' exactly what i said. In that case he's correct: whenever the CPU has to wait a lot for I/O, like network and disk, then the _load_ will go up, while the CPU _utilization_ stays low. and that's inconsistent with explanation that load average is measure of CPU load. it's not. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
Do you ever think before you type? You regularly fill this mailing list with crap please don't name things "crap" just because you don't understand ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID
I have looked at ZFS recently. Appears to be a memory hog, needs about 1 GB especially if large file transfers may occur over gigabit ethernet while it CAN be set up on 256MB machine with a little big flags in loader.conf (should be autotuned anyway) - it generally takes as much memory as it's available, and LOTS of CPU power. with similar operations ZFS takes 10-20 TIMES more CPU than UFS and it's NOT faster than properly configured UFS. doesn't make any sense ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD & Software RAID
i use gmirror but once i tried gvinum and it doesn't work well. i think simply use mirroring. ZFS will introduce 100 times more problems than it solves ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT measure of CPU load. Er, what? Of course it is! amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you are true expert ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT measure of CPU load. You are mistaken. I think what you are referring to is the percentage of no i'm not. doing lots of I/O and little CPU load produces high "load average". the explanation from the book is wrong. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
Is there a FreeBSD ARM port? There's not one for 7.2. I'm not aware of one, but I think NetBSD has it. But finally, NetBSD isn't FreeBSD. :-) quite a big difference. was enough for me to switch to FreeBSD some time ago. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
I was just now looking into ARM netbooks. I think there's only one actual shipping model so far, but ARM shows great promise because ARM CPUs use very little power. I expect there will be lots of them by the end of the year. Is there a FreeBSD ARM port? There's not one for 7.2. there are for some ARM CPUs in source tree. Mike -- Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
From the glossary (p. 630) of _The_Design_and_Implementation_of_the _FreeBSD_Operating_System_ by McKusick and Neville-Neil: load average A measure of CPU load on the system. The load average in FreeBSD is an average of the number of processes ready to run or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O to complete, as sampled once per second over the previous one- minute interval of system operation. so this glossary should be fixed because it's nonsense. first - says that it's measure of CPU load then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT measure of CPU load. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5%
Look below: load over 7 and no processes take much CPU. load average is NOT sum of CPU loads. for example program reading constantly from HDD and using no CPU will add 1 to load average. other things like net I/O etc. are calculated too. i can't explain you exactly how because i don't know precisely. but load average is total load not just CPU load Yuri 7.2-PRERELEASE, 32-bit on i7-920. last pid: 93192; load averages: 7.68, 6.27, 4.61 up 2+03:11:29 20:25:24 204 processes: 9 running, 193 sleeping, 1 stopped, 1 zombie CPU: 5.3% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 94.7% idle Mem: 867M Active, 1684M Inact, 279M Wired, 65M Cache, 112M Buf, 92M Free Swap: 16G Total, 142M Used, 16G Free PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 60032 yuri 1 460 285M 183M select 0 41:15 0.59% Xorg 60400 yuri 1 40 12576K 9144K kqread 4 29:44 0.00% wineserver 92982 yuri 1 440 53012K 16800K CPU3 3 18:50 0.00% kdeinit4 92986 yuri 1 440 53012K 16800K CPU7 7 18:48 0.00% kdeinit4 92988 yuri 1 1070 53012K 16840K CPU6 6 17:22 0.00% kdeinit4 60104 yuri 1 440 132M 45860K select 0 16:58 0.00% kwin 92984 yuri 1 1170 53012K 16800K RUN5 14:56 0.00% kdeinit4 60096 yuri 1 440 89732K 30040K select 4 10:10 0.00% kded4 93141 yuri 1 530 53012K 16800K CPU5 5 3:52 0.00% kdeinit4 93139 yuri 1 440 53012K 16800K CPU1 1 3:30 0.00% kdeinit4 60174 yuri 1 440 3168K 1400K select 0 1:28 0.00% ksysguardd 450 root 1 40 3128K 800K select 4 0:44 0.00% dhclient 1131 messagebus1 40 3344K 1384K select 4 0:40 0.00% dbus-daemon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD
point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. I respectfully disagree. As much as I hate Apple as a company, I currently have a MacBook Pro that gets over 4 hours of battery life and has a 200+gig HDD in it. i wrote "somehow incompatible" :) your macbook pro would run even more hours on the same battery with flash drive. i don't know how much your CPU gets power, and ... how oversized battery it has ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why build's user CPU on 4-CPU machine with hyper-threading always higher with -j 8 compared to with -j 4?
I noticed that the same exact build on i7-920 (4 CPUs) consumes ~15% more
user CPU when run with -j 8 compared to -j 4.
Hyper-threading is enabled so top shows 8 CPUs.
Why would user time be higher in a hyper-threaded run?
because it doesn't count actual instruction executed but - as name suggest
- time.
with -j 8 it sums time of 8 pseudo-processors
single pseudo-processor ("half" of single core) is slower than
full-processor.
The whole trick with hyperthreading is that it's less than half slower, as
one "pseudo-processor" become full-processor every time that second
"pseudo-processor" is stalled on memory access.
today memory access to DRAM means over hundred of CPU cycles. out of order
execution can execute other instruction to some extent, but only "some".
even L3 cache access costs >>10 CPU cycles
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Re: 4x quad core on freebsd
pros / cons of running a 4 cpu (16 core) system on FreeBSD. I found FreeBSD 7 is quite scallable, said to work well for up to 8-16 cores. but it depends of what you do. if your I/O (both disk and network) to computind ratio is low it would scale well on even more cores. Tyan S4985 4 x AMD 8346HE 1.8Ghz (quad-core) 16GB DDR2 Also I want to run my main HDD as SSD (Sata II), I found some good info about: OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD) with 16GB RAM i don't think it's worth of price. won't most of your often-used small files will be cached on your huge memory? i would rather buy 2 ordinary SATA disks and make gmirror, performance will be OK too, more space and extra protection. --Will FreeBSD give me optimal performance with such an HDD? as every other HDD. yes. I'd prefer to run FreeBSD, since I'm most familiar with it, but am not against Linux since my ultimate goal is to get the best performance out of the hardware that I can... for sure you will not get best performance under linux on any hardware, except when your workload will be like those used on "scallability" tests, like running 1000 threads of mysql, with everything in memory (cache) and mostly no external I/O in the same time. but AFAIK FreeBSD 7 is better/same even in that case. In case of classic unix style workload which is - lots of processes doing lots of things in the same time - the processes are often many DIFFERENT programs - lots of I/O on one/many disks - lots of connectivity FreeBSD beats everything that exist on the planet. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD
I'm about to buy a netbook, which: - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) - has a normal HDD not an SSD point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD as USB joystick
That is, I have a PS2 and want to be able to control it via my laptop. This would amount to connecting a USB cable between my PS2 and my laptop, and getting the PS2 to detect it as a joystick with the right identifier string, and being able to send button presses etc via my laptop to the PS2. PC USB controllers has only host mode, not device mode, so the answer is no. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Lenovo s9e or well supported netbook
I'm use FreeBSD on my Lenovo T61. All works perfect. and T23 -- Alexandr Matveev ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: BGP
look at ports index there are BGP deamons On Wed, 13 May 2009, alexus wrote: is there a way to have FreeBSD work as BGP router and/or at least failover between 2 different ISPs? -- http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Disabling ssh timeouts?
Read from remote host troutmask.apl.washington.edu: Connection reset by peer Connection to troutmask.apl.washington.edu closed. The only way I'v efound to complete a run of the GCC testsuite is to sit at the terminal and hit enter every so often. Also there is screen program. note, nohup and backgrounding the job does not inhibit sshd no idea, network problems?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing Unix
I am a newbie to Unix with no experience in installing unix operating system. Have been through Download Freebsd but not quite sure what I should download. install CD. if you have good network connection - download small "bootonly CD". it will then fetch all needed by the net. but do read a handbook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support. The OS puts the NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work. FreeBSD has isn't it BIOS option? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD system? wake on lan works before any OS is started, actually before computer is powered up - as it's made to power up computer by LAN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Processors
yes. FreeBSD/amd64 Or i386. if you want limited system - yes -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Sun E250
isn't it external disk array connected with SCSI connector? if so - it looks like SCSI disk(s) to the computer and is supported by FreeBSD disk driver On Mon, 11 May 2009, RAUL H C LOPES wrote: Hello, We've got a Sun server E250 with a disk array Storedge A1000. We'd like to have Freebsd running on it. I see from the http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/hardware-sparc64.html#AEN30 that freebsd runs on E250, but it is not clear for me whether it supports the disk array. Would you know of anyone running FreeBSD on that storage? Thanks, Raul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Processors
I'm new with FreeBSD setup. Just want to as if Core 2 Duo processor compatible with FreeBSD. yes. FreeBSD/amd64 Thanks a lot.. -- Renato A. Rocabo mobile: 09208095152 email: cserge...@gmail.com ym: carlos_serge...@yahoo.com skype: rrocabo If you don't write it down, then it never happen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me)
I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have been having problems getting bpf running. For some reason, even though bpf has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically create a are you sure? your symptops suggest it was not compiled it ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Frozen on Boot - Kernel Hanging?
My server was fine when I went to work. When I got back, it was dead. I had the datacenter reboot it, and it refused to boot. It just hangs with no error message when booting. After the "Welcome to FreeBSD" menu, it just freezes up. I have no idea where to start to fix this. Any ideas? most probably hardware failure Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
man crontab @reboot On Thu, 7 May 2009, Nerius Landys wrote: So there's cron. Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start his/her programs at bootup of the system? And then run a script when the system is shutting down? I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's not really what I'm looking for. I gave my friends access to my FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or MySQL on higher ports running as their own user. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
If you aren't using ZFS, or even a GEOM volume with mirror/RAID5/softup/etc, you cannot make the statement that hardware RAID is faster. I learned that 3 years ago. i state exactly opposite. all hardware raid cards are made just to suck money from those who believe in it. like "performance is not enough - buy better/more expensive model." This does not go for EMC, IBM, Hitachi high-end storage arrays where you write to TBs of RAM Cache. having same amount of extra memory on FreeBSD server directly will make better use of it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle
more so (for the base system I just install them always, as it doesn't pay off in the long run to skip them). Portaudit for a (web)server has a lot of notifications that "are not critical", like several issues over the last year with php's safe mode that any sane webserver admin doesn't use. i don't know really what's PHP safe mode, just if someone says he/she needs PHP i make separate jail, and configure whatever she/he wants. it for sure have a lots of bugs (in PHP directly), and even more security holes by stupidly designed webpage he/she will put, but i don't care. it will not hurt anyone else ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
yes, some of them suck royally. you should rather say "some of them doesn't suck". ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires maybe with RAID5, but using RAID5 today (huge disk sizes, little sense to save on disk space) instead of RAID1/10 doesn't make much sense, as RAID5 is slow on writes by design ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
config, or gmirror/gstripe config. usually it's far much slower Sorry, but my experience with that very server using a P400 controller with 256MB write cache is very different. My benchmarks showed that controller using Raid5 (with only 4 disks) is significantly faster than software layouts. possibly with RAID5, but for sure slower than single drive The days when hardware controllers could automatically be considered slow are long gone. unfortunately not. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
means you had 6 million files. df -i would have been more useful in the output above. This brings a number of questions up: * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition? That's he showed mount output - he has softdeps on. * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000? Again, going to make a big difference. on 7200 RPM ordinary SATA disk i deleted 15 million files taking 300GB (squid cache) in less than 30 minutes. for sure it's because of his "hardware raid". i've NEVER seen "hardware raid" that is actually faster than non-raid config, or gmirror/gstripe config. usually it's far much slower ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
-> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs). It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5 with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) ) if you would use no raid or software raid it will behave normally. it takes <30 minutes for me to delete 300GB of squid files on ordinary SATA disk , millions of small files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
start rtadvd on interface On Wed, 6 May 2009, af300...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering, how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts. Thanks, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able to achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping?
I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD. How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives? mirroring - the same, just with 2 processes reading both can get the bandwidth. make sure you use -s high enough (like 1048576) doing gmirror label stripping - the same, or 2,3,4 times, depends how you configure. for highest transfer and lowest concurrency (you mostly read huge files with one process) - use small stripe size. for lowest transfer (=1 disk) and highest concurency - use very huge stripe size like 512MB, so simply different process reading different things can hit different drives, but each I/O isn't spread. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Shopping for external harddrive
warranty replacement died out of the box. It took 69 days as well as dozens of phone calls + emails to get a replacement for the dead replacement. while i never had problems with warranty on hard drives (only internal but anyway), it always took 2-3 weeks. shop where i bought it handled it for me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
vtund&linux client
i wanted to give IPv6 tunnel to someone running linux with vtund added position as usual to vtund.conf (there are already many tunnels), and he can't connect. In FreeBSD you have to add VTUN_EXTENDED_MODE=yes to /etc/make.conf before compiling from ports to have IPv6 support. in linux - i don't know. does anyone have an example (or working vtund binary/package) for linux supporting IPv6? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Honey pot email address
On Sun, 3 May 2009, Duane wrote: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Andrew wrote: Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists as possible? What are your plans for the resultant collection of junque? redirect to the president ? ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem?
[r...@wojtek ~]# sysctl -a |grep maxpr kern.maxproc: 5266 kern.maxprocperuid: 4739 i don't know if there is limit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem?
#define EAGAIN 35 /* Resource temporarily unavailable */ check your process count limit. On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, VeeJay wrote: Sorry Folks, I should have provided complete information in order to get help... I am running DB: Server version: 5.0.77-log FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.0.77_1 OS: FreeBSD 7.1 And I am keep getting this error after a while "*1135: Can't create a new thread (errno 35); if you are not out of available memory, you can consult the manual for a possible OS-dependent bug*" Then I am unable to shutdown the server or kill the processes not even connect through mysql client... -- Thanks! BR / vj ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If it's a fast 686, default to a X environment. nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's important for you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Software raid5 through a sata port multiplier
thinking that a software raid5 solution may not be such a bad idea. software raid5 isn't any more bad than hardware raid5 most cases. just raid5 is bad if you use it in ANY type of load except: a) mostly reads - then set LARGE RAID stripe size b) mostly huge files - then set small RAID stripe size to have highest single thread transfer, or large to have higher concurency. EVERY OTHER case is bad case for RAID5 - just remember small write on RAID5=2 reads+2 writes on disks. The question is what port multiplier hardware does FreeBSD 7 support? it unfortunately doesn't. but your hardware RAID controllers drive disks by itself and presents virtual drives to system, and system has nothing to do with it. so ask manufacturer if it supports port multipliers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Banwidth limited to 800kb per connection
I agree. Check the interface on the device that connects into their network. You will likely see all sorts of interface errors. Try having them force to 100/Full, and you do the same at your end. it's VERY common when other end is cisco switch ;) and nothing helps except using other NIC. i have that problem with the ISP one place - the only card that worked well was ordinary RTL8139. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Converting the partition type
IMHO there are no converters On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Christopher Chambers wrote: Hi, I have an msdos partition with a large amount of data. Is there a way to convert to a ufs partition without having to remove the data off the partition first? -- Christopher Chambers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
I think there's no need to worry (yet). Some of us use FreeBSD on headless systems (which often don't even have the VGA and keyboard circuitry). And of course, we install via remote serial consoles. Anything purely GUI-oriented with no alternative would mean instant migration to OpenBSD or another OS for purely practical reasons. AFAIK OpenBSD isn't GUI oriented. Linux is, and windows So, no, I don't see text-based sysinstall disappear anytime soon. ;-) Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: maybe OT, but involves OOO its slideshow fmt, ``Impress''
You can do a lot with synthesized spoken language, but the human "voice perception apparatus" reacts to them differently than it does to a native (natural) voice, even if both say the same text. until someone will make speech synthetizer good enough ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Banwidth limited to 800kb per connection
When downloading files over FTP (proftpd) or HTTP (apache 2.2) I only get about 800kb/s, uploading seems to have the same limit (couldn't test it really, as my line stops at abount 860kb/s). When I start multiple downloads, I get 800kb/s for each transfer, up to about 5000kb/s, which is the limit of my downstream at home. Is there some kind of traffic shaping or QOS somewhere? or ethernet autonegotiation problems - one side gets full duplex other half duplex. Before moving to the hosting company, I had the server at home and transfered several MB per second with a single FTP-transfer (ethernet). Regards, Neo [GC] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Unexpected gmirror behavior: Is this a bug?
i think it's a bug but only happens with such massive mirror. very few people do more than 2-way mirrors that's probably it wasn't catched. please do report the bug - it's critical. On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Peter Steele wrote: This only happens with ad4. If ad6 for example goes offline in the same way, when it is reinserted it does not become the dominant drive and resync its data with the other drives. Rather its data is overwritten with the data from the 3 member mirror, as you'd expect. looks like very strange bug. many times i got drives disconnected and always gmirror resynced If I just pull ad4 and then reinsert it without doing a reboot, everything works fine. The problem occurs when ad4 is pulled and then reinserted after the system is shutdown. When the system comes up, it doesn't get added back to the existing mirror but rather becomes the principal member of the mirror, using its old data. Not good. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Unexpected gmirror behavior: Is this a bug?
This only happens with ad4. If ad6 for example goes offline in the same way, when it is reinserted it does not become the dominant drive and resync its data with the other drives. Rather its data is overwritten with the data from the 3 member mirror, as you'd expect. looks like very strange bug. many times i got drives disconnected and always gmirror resynced ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
a modern installer for FreeBSD? If I can add my 2 cents to this entire discusion, it will be nice if will be the TUI which is similar to TUI done in Debian Lenny installer. You can do simply next and back option, you can easily choose betwen e.g ext3 or reiserfs. It will be nice if we can also do it in FreeBSD e.g UFS or ZFS or something else in future. Add repositories (Linux) add csup sites (FreeBSD) and so one. that's good ideas - something about FUNCTIONALITY instead of look. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
done a ton of FreeBSD installs the headless way, I hope any new installer will not absolutely require a GUI. If it can run in a GUI mode, fine, but I hope it will still let one connect via a serial port and direct the process that way. as you can do everything easily in text mode, it just points out that GUI installer is nonsense. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
the number of possible partitions per slice is higher. I'd really wish FreeBSD's bsdlabel(8) would allow for more partitions. The problem here is not with sysinstall though. From bsdlabel(8): that's isn't supported by sysinstall but you can partition a partition. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
Good ways to go (for those who want it this way) are PC-BSD, DesktopBSD and FreeSBIE. or ever better - Windows. don't use imitations when you can get an original! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
The problem is that if the graphics isn't optional (if it's the default), the whole thing is *limiting* the actions you can do with it. like installing over serial port or without mouse. both i use ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
IMHO numbers and letters look the same in the scary dark place, a TUI, or GUI. Better device detection, faster, more packages, etc. would all be "better" and should be more of a priority than making a GUI exactly. GUI don't need to have any priority, it's just don't needed AT ALL. if fancy cool graphics is important - why using FreeBSD at all? there are lot of other products both free and commercial that concentrates on it. not only installer - everything else too :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
as better than sysinstall. Once upon time, there was a Summer of Code projects set to develop a graphical installer for FBSD 7.x. I don't know what happened to it, but also agree there is no need for such a thing. Sysinstall may appear intimidating but it's really quite easy to use once you're used to it. i don't understand WHY something has to be better just because it's working in graphics mode. it doesn't make sense. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
As a big fan (and paying subscriber) of FreeBSD it pains me to ask this question: When are you going to build a modern installer for FreeBSD? what is missing in current to make anything else? if you have some ideas about extending it - just tell, and even better - send a patch ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: i had a tought
he smoked too much why there is not a lunix operatingsystem consortium, for the kernel end the commercial userinterface -- Arjen Simon Scheer Konigin Wilhelminalaan 4-017 4205ET Gorinchem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: "unable to completely remove directory" during deinstall
pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?) It occurs at the end of a "deinstall" as a matter of updating a port "by hand". What is the proper procedure to correct this? Run "pkgdb -F"? Rm the offending files/dirs by hand? Both? check what wasn't deleted from the directory any why. then delete it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Disk usage analysis
These are called directories. You don't call files "sheets of paper" either, do you? :-) YES!! I'm probably too up-tight about the use of "folder", but it just seems like waay too much stupiding-down of the std Unix terminology. ([I thought I was the only one]. And yes, there are things of greater gravitas to be ticked off about!) it's just stupid to pursue windoze/maclame naming where names are ALREADY present! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD's interaction with MS-DOS partitions
ms-dos partition. For example, I attempted to download a torrent with ctorrent. Works perfectly if I am saving to the bsd partition but my whole system freezes if I use the ms-dos partition. I mount it in /etc/fstab as "/dev/ad0s2 /d msdosfs rw 0 0" Is this behaviour the result of the 0 0? no. it's a result of ms-dos fs driver which is just useful to do read/write, even this isn't high performance ;) mmap is probably buggy that's why rtorrent crash. i don't think anyone really optimized this, not much need anyway. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?
I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a yes. i do cat file >/dev/lpt0 :) never used cups and never will. but i use lpd and postscript to pcl filter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Dump | Restore
target machine FreeBSD 6.2, target disk /dev/ad1s1a mounted on /mnt. Run dump -0aLf - / | ssh ip_address ''cd /mnt/ && cat | restore - rf -'', dump/restore goes without any errors. 1 total nonsense: cat|restore instead of restore 2 probably nonsense: use rsh not ssh unless you really need encryption. Fstab fixed, but system failure to boot: BTX halted. bsdlabel -B ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Fetchmail problem
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Annelise Anderson wrote: I am trying to use fetchmail on FreeBSD but get the message: fetchmail: SMTP< 451 4.1.8 Domain of sender address owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org does not resolve I can send mail out from the box but can't fetch mail. so check why domain doesn't resolve. and if it have to not - use option to put mails directly to file or through procmail and not local SMTP ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Upgrading from 6.3 to 7.1 -- how dangerous?
how i do this (but this is probably not "politically correct" ;) 1) get all files of new version in one place (subdir) say at /7.1 2) separate out manually all configs - it's /etc, /var/namedb and maybe few more 3) using livecd just put all other files with tar|tar to the place 4) manually update configs - put all except what you modified 5) turn off all services in rc.conf, reboot 6) install compat6x from ports so your existing ports will work, then turn on services On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, John Almberg wrote: I need to upgrade a live, production server from 6.3 to 7.1. I can't afford to have any troubles with this server. I have Absolute FreeBSD and a few other BSD books, and the upgrade process looks fairly straightforward. That's the theory... Real world question: how scared should I be? I've thought about setting up a dummy server, just to practice on. Is this a good idea? Or am I just a nervous Nellie? -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: snd-hda no sound whatsoever
which will turn PCM and master volume to 100:100. For checking, it's usually the most comfortable way to play some media file, instead of a "plain file" into /dev/dsp. "plain binary" will make plain noise ;) so it's good test The play command from the port / package sox or mpg123 / madplay for mp3 files work well, as does mplayer. Have a look at where /dev/dsp points to, it should be the dsp0 device. I don't have furtther experiences with the hda stuff, so these would be my basic ideas. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: snd-hda no sound whatsoever
what mixer says? On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Eitan Adler wrote: I have no sound whatsoever. Speakers are plugged in and turned on. I'm not sure what debugging information I need. $kldstat |grep snd 51 0xc5985000 19000snd_hda.ko $cat /bin/sh >/dev/dsp Produces no sound $sysctl -a|grep hda http://isis.poly.edu/~eitan/files/hda-sound-problem-sysctl-output.txt $cat /dev/sndstat (hw.snd.verbose: 4) http://isis.poly.edu/~eitan/files/hda-sound-problem-sndstat-output.txt Any ideas? -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply
did you vacation -i On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, lyd mc wrote: Hi guys, Why Freebsd built-in vacation program (/usr/bin/vacation) does not auto reply? I am using fresh installed Freebsd7.0 and 7.1. here is my configs. Under the home directory of the user (alydio.mc) .forward \alydio.mc, "|/usr/bin/vacation alydio.mc" .vacation.msg Subject: On vacation message From: alydio...@mydomain.com I'm on vacation and will not be reading my mail for a while. Your mail will be dealt with when I return. . from postfix/sendmail logs: ...sniff (delivered to command: /usr/bin/vacation alydio.mc) after this nothing will happened... no errors no warnings... ?? However the one I installed from ports (/usr/local/bin/vacation) works fine. I want to use the freebsd base vacation program. ?? Please help. Thank you, alydiomc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Need to change screen resolution...
I am trying to find a way to change my current screen resolution from the default 720x426 (I think). The monitor I use to view all my servers via KVM switch - the font is too big on the screen - if I could increase the screen size to maybe 1028x756 that would be great. from what you've got that nonsense numbers like 720x426 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Software to manage virtual hosts on a dedicated server
just another man that wants to get everything not just for free, but not even without much knowledge. learn and MAKE IT YOURSELF, that it will fit exactly to your needs. Or - provide services for 1$/year like there are lots of today. crappy and all the same - but cheap. Maybe you will earn 100$ a month - if you will be lucky. Do you know any decent provider-like software which would handle adding new domains, ftp accounts, sql databases & mail accounts to the server? Preferably something in ports but I am not sure if there is any such thing? I am not going to become a provider :) but I am just looking for something to make life easier in this respect. I have seen syscp, but this has the disadvantage that it creates directories that are already containing public_html folders (no way to place files outside public access). Many thanks in advance for all suggestions! Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded... what to do?
increase kern.maxfiles :) in sysctl.conf On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, VeeJay wrote: Hi there I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to increase the limit and avoid this error? kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25022] : fatal : kqueue : Too many files open in the system Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25023] : fatal : kqueue : Too many files open in the system kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7) Then I am unable to login on the server by consol or ssh. what to do? -- Thanks! BR / vj ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
