Re: The ports are really funcional?
u . . . this person has been doing similar hold-my-hand-I-do-not-want-to-take-the-time kinda thing on the oBSD lists recently. On 10/30/11, Zantgo zan...@gmail.com wrote: El 30-10-2011, a las 19:55, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com escribió: On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Zantgo wrote: What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, but almost no one serves me, I've only been able to install firefox, I tried also install KDE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have been many errors, commonly solocionables, for example I had to modify REFRESH to true, but also to get out other errors, commonly have a solution, but is a great problem to have to spend all his time fixing bugs. Please tell me if it is natural to every time I download large modifying ports so, if so, then why say functional? Yes, ports work well. From the description, it's difficult to tell what is causing the problem. Please supply additional information, like what version of FreeBSD and the exact output of one of the errors (script(1) is useful for that). Also see the section in the Handbook about packages and ports: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Translations of the Handbook can be found at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ in the books subdirectory. the problem is not the problem, since most are solving the problem is that there are many errors and problems, then as I say it is stable and functional?___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternative windowmanagers
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Alex Stangl a...@stangl.us wrote: On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: xmonad. Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. Another vote for xmonad. You may be startled at first to come up instantly to an empty screen, but you likely won't miss the bloat. Like xmonad, but written in C . . . scrotwm. Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tom Worster f...@thefsb.org wrote: On 11/12/10 2:29 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Lots of people see FreeBSD and the web site and the mascott, etc for the first time probably each day. Some of them will have the same mistaken idea since the misunderstanding of it is implanted in people's heads from an early age. Although you may get tired of hearing that same old argument again and again, I do, it does not automatically make a person a troll if they ask the question. Hmm. It is inconsiderate and lazy to ask someone else to answer a question without making any effort to answer it yourself first. The misdeed is multiplied when the culprit asks hundreds of people in a discussion group such as this. That's why it is often considered a violation of etiquette. The fact that lmgtfy.com and 'RTFM' are both well know suggests that this is not a fringe opinion. The intelligent thing is to give a reasonable answer and point the person to some web pages where they can become informed and then ignore it. I would describe that as the indulgent thing, not the intelligent thing. Thanks Tom, I was beginning to think no one else cared about such netiquette, and I just opted to let it go. Nevertheless, now that you brought this up, I would like to point a couple of more things out to Jerry: The _intelligent_ thing to do is to actually read before blabbering here about some religious crap. When the OP signed up to this list he must have read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL Where things like the following are very clearly stated: When in doubt about what list to post a question to, see How to get best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Which points to this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ Before posting to any list, please learn about how to best use the mailing lists, such as how to help avoid frequently-repeated discussions, by reading the Mailing List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) document. Which points to this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/ And in almost all these places there are links to the netiquette, recommendations on how to search before you post and tons of information on how to correctly interact with these mailing lists. Ignorantia legis neminem excusat Yes, yes, yes . . . but back to the issue at hand; cartoons with red faces and two horns, carrying sharp, pointy things indicate the evil that must be . . . . ummm . . . I don't know. I'm probably going to hell just for having thoughts about Satan (or whatever). Like I said, I don't know ;-) Ok . . . now I'm done. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
2010/11/11 José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! Is this better? José Silveira ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
2010/11/11 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com: 2010/11/11 José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! Is this better? (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: PLEASE let's not rehash this again!!! I'm only sending the link to the haloed (sp?) daemon now because I wish I had last time but f'd it up. I'm done now . . . I just thought that those who are offended by evil daemons would appreciate the holy ones. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu Nov 11 18:50:00 2010 Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com: 2010/11/11 José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! Is this better? (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
-- Forwarded message -- From: José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com Date: 2010/11/11 Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? To: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me this crap! I hope freebsd explodes! 2010/11/12 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com 2010/11/11 Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com: 2010/11/11 José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? For me it is nonsense... It makes Christians, Jwishes and Muslins run away! Is this better? (sorry) http://www.openbsd.org/art/newhead.jpg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: José Silveira jmlsilve...@gmail.com Date: 2010/11/11 Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? To: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com What an absurd! A guy makes a question and an stupid like you send me this crap! I hope freebsd explodes! First, please don't top-post. Second, stop feeding the trolls. We souldn't be falling for this crap once again. Third, if you don't like FreeBSD and want it to explode, please just leave. I hear ya . . . I'm done . . . I was just messin' around ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh ..
Wow! I tried to wait, but it now has to be said that more than just Theo are laughing. On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net wrote: On Oct 9, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 09:47:04 -0700 Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net articulated: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 05:30, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: Surrilous isn't an English word, nor an obvious typo of one, so I have no idea what you mean here. surrilous (adj.) coarsely abusive, vulgar or low (especially in language) foul- mouthed I have never heard this word and couldn't find a definition using google define or dictionary.com (which aggregates many major dictionaries). Perhaps it is a word, but an extremely obscure one. -- Rob Farmer Although the OP might have meant scurrilous (an obvious typo): scur·ril·ous –adjective 1. grossly or obscenely abusive: a scurrilous attack on the mayor. 2. characterized by or using low buffoonery; coarsely jocular or derisive: a scurrilous jest. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI Suggested?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any other? I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) Thanks in advance Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org After trying a few different WMs, I settled on xmonad. It's minimalist -- meaning it stays out of your way. It's also highly configurable, in Haskell. It's lightweight and fast. It's a developer's WM. If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI Suggested?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any other? I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) Thanks in advance Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org After trying a few different WMs, I settled on xmonad. It's minimalist -- meaning it stays out of your way. It's also highly configurable, in Haskell. It's lightweight and fast. It's a developer's WM. If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org scrotwm does look interesting -- I read through the man page, but couldn't find a way to specify that certain windows should be moved by default to specific workspaces. Can that be done? I'm not too sure what you're asking certain window should be moved by default to specific workspaces. Since you read the man page I'm guessing you're not talking about changing which xterm is in focus. Focus moves by defualt to each new tem that you open (alt-shift-return). Maybe www.scrotwm.org will help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI Suggested?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: I'm not too sure what you're asking certain window should be moved by default to specific workspaces. Since you read the man page I'm guessing you're not talking about changing which xterm is in focus. Focus moves by defualt to each new tem that you open (alt-shift-return). Maybe www.scrotwm.org will help. ___ Nope. The wiki doesn't present anything either. What I mean is for example when I launch Firefox, I want it to go to workspace 3. When I launch gimp, I want it on workspace 7. I can easily specify that in xmonad, using either the window class or window title. I don't want to have to move all these windows where I want them every time I log in. Ah . . . I see. I'm not aware af that being a feature in scrotwm. The only thing I can suggest is to join the forum and ask. Like I said, scrotwm actively maintained and the devs will (likely) respond quickly. As far as what they say, suggestions are welcome, but they have to be persuaded. Best of luck. -Neal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI Suggested?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is written in C considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm developer(s)? Earlier today, I read this on the site: On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C. hahahahahahaha! What's up with that? How does Haskell cripple xmonad? In the end, you need not take yourself so seriously. The thread was generic enough to allow for some rhetorical flourish. I suggested something . . . pointed out that is written in C (as did the homepage) . . . AND you concluded some sort of insult; not my problem. Do you need a rim-shot for every joke? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI Suggested?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is written in C considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm developer(s)? Earlier today, I read this on the site: On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C. What's up with that? How does Haskell cripple xmonad? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I wondered the same thing myself. Haskell is compiled, and the result is very efficient. I also wondered why the mentions about being actively maintained -- it seems to me that xmonad gets updated pretty regularly. I only mention scrotwm's active development, not to compare it's development to xmonad's, but to point out that your issues will be taken seriously . . . in a timely manner. . . not that they won't be take seriously in the xmonad setting. Please, use xmonad if it meets your requirements. I apologise for suggesting something. Chad P., take a pill ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GUI Suggested?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is written in C considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm developer(s)? Earlier today, I read this on the site: On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C. hahahahahahaha! What's up with that? How does Haskell cripple xmonad? In the end, you need not take yourself so seriously. The thread was generic enough to allow for some rhetorical flourish. I suggested something . . . pointed out that is written in C (as did the homepage) . . . AND you concluded some sort of insult; not my problem. Do you need a rim-shot for every joke? 1. Who said I took insult? You assume too much. 2. That was not a very clever joke, anyway. Where's the punchline? 3. That doesn't answer my question about the Scrotwm page. Even *I* am not so socially stunted as to think a comment like that on the Scrotwm site would not raise some eyebrows. Some? sure. In the end, scrotwm is a simple wm that allows the gui-apprehensive-type folk a nice CLI in X. That's all I was suggesting. Shave and a haircut . . . Chad? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:06:17 -0700, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote: These people have been taught from a young age that logic is evil and will lead them down the road to hell, so logical arguments are lost on them. Reminds me to the discussion around Russell's teapot... No . . . not you . . . Polytropon! The end of the world must be coming (Revelations-1.0). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BSD logo
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:22:21 -0500, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: No . . . not you . . . Polytropon! The end of the world must be coming (Revelations-1.0). Do *NOT* tempt me. Okay, you did. And this is what will happen: It turns this thread into a bottomless pit of nonsense, but well, you asked for it. :-) ,ggg, nd spotteth twice they the system before dP8I the fifth version, and so, the Programmers dP 88 went Forth to RAM Gilead in Kernel Bilgemath, dP 88 by Shell Ethra Joygalion, to the house of ,8' 88 Gash-Bernars-Lee-Bazola, he who brought the d better list to Kerneygham and the tank pool __ ,8 88 to the house of Ritchomon, and there slew dP ,8P Y8 they the list messages, yea, and placed they Yb,_,dP `8b, the bits in little bit buckets. Here endeth Y8P `Y8 the lesson. (Pal 8:256) Amen P.S. -- Please, let's not get into the proper pronounciation of this as well ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: i cannot login as root
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: i can't :( it says that is is only read-only enviroment.. use the world wide web, and look for an answer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail access
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:40 PM, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote: hi all... reading http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html i did get an access file set up. it doesn't do anything thought... i have only entry like this: some.domain.com OK and did make. then changed /etc/defaults/rc.conf to sendmail_enable=YES restarted sendmail. cool. so far. now mail is a accepted from everywhere not only the entry in access: some.domain.com why? As far as I understand it, the access file makes more fine-grained decisions. That is, sendmail allows everything and the access file allows you to discriminate more precisely. Notice that the example has (something like) : spam.com REJECT . . . okay.spam.com OK So, if you only want to allow emails only from some.domain.com then you have to REJECT all other domains . . . good luck ;-) thanks... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash viewer for FBSD
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Graham Bentley ad...@cpcnw.co.uk wrote: It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! Bingo! If the OP wants M$-like flash support, then . . . well . . . use M$ (and its friend$). It's not really fair to complain about the admirable work of fBSD devs. Keep in mind that they volunteer their time. If fBSD (or anything else) is not suiting your needs, either fix it or go somewhere else. I'm sure the fBSD community would welcome a hack that gets m$-like flash support ;-) I find it a relief not to have those damn flash ads/nonsense flashing in front of me. FWIW - I did use gnash for a while and it wasn't too bad. Although, ny needs may not be comparable to the OP's. He really hasn't made that clear. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Downloading and Burning Free BSD
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Roger Agraviador diminish...@gmail.com wrote: I clicked the ISO link and I was brought to a directory, this to be exact ( ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/) Once I have downloaded all Iso Images do I burn the 'boot only.iso' file on one DVD or CD only? or do I burn that along with 'disc1.iso', and how do I go about burning the rest of the files in that directory once I have downloaded them? As others have pointed out, disc1 will get you started and, as long as you have an internet connection, you should be able to get the rest (without the other discs). The install will take you through the process. Perhaps you should look at the handbook to familiarize yourself with the install procedures. www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cannot boot freebsd
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Jesús Abidan jabi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in mi box and i left a partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and installed the boot mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with f1 pressed? how can I make the system boots both? What do you mean make the system boot both? At the same time? That's not going to happen. Isn't F1 the option for dos/windows? If so, consider your other options . . . one should be FreeBSD (assuming you did the install correctly) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Source Code
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Petros Ring petros...@live.com wrote: I would like you to send a copy of all the source code of FreeBSD so I may use it for a project that will allow the running of applacations from a different os to run on FreeBSD. Please send a attachment of the full source code in the reply email. This is all you need: http://www.freebsd.org/where.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Effing HAL
I just saw this on my gentoo list (yes, there are folks complaining about HAL there as well). I don't know anything about this project other than it's intentions are to build a replacement for HAL. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DeviceKit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
Aha! Gotcha! Whoever wrote that has made an unintentionnal booboo. It is a subtle difference and is indicative that whoever wrote it is not a native english user... the meaning is clearly should be executed, done, carried out, performed - should work means it can be carried out - I think the author meant to say should not be done I'm a native English speaker, and the manual makes perfect sense to me. It's very clear to me that since the statement is in the BUGS section, it means that the utility should, but doesn't. Since it follows a statement that the utility doesn't, the meaning is unambiguous. fwiw, upon first reading, I got the exact same impression about the writing under its context as Bob did. Am I the only one annoyed by the monthly PJ soap-operas. It seems that we get a ridiculous installment from this guy who bites off more than he can chew and then complains that it's too big every full (or is it fool) moon (28 day cycle . . . sorry obvious,stupid joke). The patience he gets from folks on this list should be commended, but questioned. In what sense is the community benefited from the dramatic life-story of an ungrateful novice? This guy puts forth his problem(s) only to update the list at every small/backward step and then ultimately offer something offensive such that the devs can't speak English. He needs to work things out before blogging on freebsd-questi...@. IMHO ;-) Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
. He needs to work things out before blogging on freebsd-questi...@. IMHO ;-) Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org You are a pathetic example of the intolerant know-it all...not worthbothering with Yet you did . . . and we continue the saga. fBSD, oBSD, etc. is not the problem, as you claim. You, my friend, have a tendency to jump into things and then complain when they do not go your way. The latest of which is to complain about the language in which the man pages were written . . . and you expect to be taken seriously. I know English but it is sometimes difficult to understand. What?! Intolerance is something you can;t charge me of. I offerred my genuine help in the past. You chose to use that offer to bash an OS and come back to an OS that you (apparently) can't handle. You fail to see that it is your failings that let you down. %...@*#^#%$ . . . does that make more sense? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
The benefit(s)? If there are other long-term members who agree with what you are getting at, then I'd say that the benefits are that it shows to newcomers that no matter what, you'll always receive a respectable and educated response. Does that really include taking seriously everything posted/asked/bitched about on the list? It also shows that it doesn't matter what the poster's name is, or what language they speak in, that those who love FreeBSD for what it is will always bleed their souls to help them out, at any cost. What is learned from hard work is better passed on to someone else. Yes . . . sure. . . but many, many houses have been built and it seems reasonable to help those attempting to build something unique or somewhat untested, than those who like to spend time complaining about things that have been built and which they have not spent much time thinking about, but just jotted down a command from google search and is disappointed when it fails to satisfy. Mia casa e tua casa, as my best friend's father always says. (my house is your house). Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
It is simple to understand Emglish but not so simple what was meant by whoever wrote it...I cannot correct something that I do not uderstand... come on, man, that should be easy to understand. I am afraid that with all the globalization people still do not understand that translations should be left to experts... an by that I mean the final version should always, and I mean always, be by a native speaking person. I speak english, french, italian, some spanish and german as well as latvian... but I would never attempt to translate into any language other than English... and then not without the help of the original language's originator. ;-) since I'm in the mood PJ, you certainly sound like a scholar . . . you speak many languages and have a strict translation policy, yet (given those two points) it doesn't follow you have any idea how to use any of those languages. You prefer drama and at some point we're going to realize that there is no wolf? KISS! (google for translation). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem regarding free BSD
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Abhilash Shukla abhi_shu...@in.com wrote: Hello,Respected Sir/Madam,Actually i tried to install free BSD on my system, I have 1 TB hard disk of 500GB X 2 in which i made a partition in one of my hard disk which even contains some data. Unfortunately i lost all my data, as i think but its truly very important for me. As after the completion of the installation part when i tried to boot into it, i was unable to do so, now i installed Windows XP into my system and tried to access the other hard disk but still i can't. As when i installed BSD in other partition why i am not able to access the other drive in the same hard drive. Please help me how can i recover my data.Thank You,Abhilash Shukla.Dear questi...@freebsd.org ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! As far as I understand, the data on the partition you put freeBSD on is gone. You should have noticed the warning during install that warned of this. Concerning XP and looking at other partitions, (as far as I understand) you should install XP first and then install freeBSD with a bootloader that will allow you (easier) access to all of the OS's. MS doesn't like to share disk space. Perhaps I misunderstood your situation concerning the loss of data. If so, there is open source data recovery software out there. I can't think of the names right now, but I'm sure you have the necessary searching skills to find them yourself. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: First time for everything
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM, jeffry killen jekil...@prodigy.net wrote: Hello; How is a usb device accessed on Freebsd. I installed an SATA drive in a usb enclosure and plugged in into usb port on the machine. Console message indicated detection of the device when the power switch for the usb enclosure was set to on. When I did mount -w /dev/usb (or usbN) I got special device unknown. Or mount -w /dev/usb (or usbN) /mnt needs block device. There is a first time for everything. man usb does not tell me. and Absolute BSD (M. Lucas) does not say anything about usb devices let alone how to access them. try: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/usb-disks.html Thank you for patience and guidance Jeff K. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: internet access from FreeBSD
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:32 AM, gs_stol...@juno.com gs_stol...@juno.com wrote: I have a copy of Greg Lehey's online book about FreeBSD, but I believe it is from February 2006. Is there a later copy, and if so, where can I find a copy (URL please)? I searched my copy for the word internet and couldn't find it. I did access the internet with a take-off copy of FreeBSD, but I don't have access to it any more. Can I access the internet with a currently gettable copy of FreeBSD, and if so, for what versions is that true (my personal version is old, but it works well so I never upgraded)? Since I get my mail via juno , can I access them nicely from FreeBSD or do I need something to interface to it and present me with my mailbox, listing the items in it and telling me the usual stuff about envelop mail (sender, subject, when received)? It's a bit unclear what you're asking, but it sounds like you want help regarding more recent versions of freeBSD and their capabilities. Have you looked at www.freebsd.org and the documentation there? I'm not sure what a book about freeBSD would have that the official documentaioin wouldn't. freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: network freebsd computers
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Carmel NY carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:53:17 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: [snip] Am I missing something or would ssh, scp and directing your Xwindows display from the headless machine to a desktop X server cover everything you are asking for? I was just playing around with ssh. Would it be possible to store multiple keys in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file? Yes. But, before this thread turns into your personal tutorial, have a look at the documentation on freebsd.org. -- Carmel car...@hotmail.com Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it away tonight. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: network freebsd computers
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:22 PM, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 04:46:49PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 03:27:35PM -0400, Carmel NY wrote: I was just playing around with ssh. Would it be possible to store multiple keys in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file? It will put a key there for every place you go to with ssh. I think this is the place one puts the public key of accounts (not the host) from which one is *coming* from that one wishes to accept login without further challenge. ~/.ssh/known_hosts automatically (prompted first time) records the host public key of places you have been so as to warn you that the connection is not to a previously known machine. While this is correct, as I said before, let's not let this thread be a regurgitation of the documentation. I think the M$/OP dude has been lead down the right path and needs to reach the end (more or less) on his own. Our bandwidth should be devoted to more important things, like . . . . well . . . anything else. (Yes, yes . . . I took up bandwidth to make this silly comment. Nip-it-in-the-bud, so to speak) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: itunes on FreeBSD
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Jerryges...@yahoo.com wrote: I use itunes http://www.apple.com/itunes/ extensively on my Windows machines to download music. AFAIK, Apple does not make a version for linux/bsd, although I might be incorrect. I investigated Rhapsody http://www.rhapsody.com/-software; however, there is no generic version of that available for linux/bsd either. Is anyone aware of a similar programs that works on FreeBSD? I am looking for a full featured program that works along the same lines as itunes. I've messed with Amarok and was able to get songs to and from an ipod. I haven't worked with it too much. It's been a while too. So, my advice would be dusty (If I have any). Also, there is gtkpod (I don' t know much about it). -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: installation sequence
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with something that is giving you soo much trouble? There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week . . . but . . . From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential files. Rationality may dictate you moving on. The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What happened to the faulty hardware idea? I dunno . . . good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:42 AM, BONGANI MANGANYE205038...@cput.ac.za wrote: I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd it's free along with the many, many, many software packages fBSD provides . . . and it's secure. have you checked out the website (www.freebsd.org)? It's a good place to start. Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. Under no circumstances will the Cape Peninsula University of Technology or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.cput.ac.za/email.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bwi driver
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Eitan Adlereitanadlerl...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Lenovo G530 laptop with a broadcom wireless card. I downloaded the drivers referenced here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=170 I installed them and loaded them. However pciconf -lv|grep bwi produces no output and ifconfig does not mention any wireless cards. What should I try now? man iwconfig man lspci -- Eitan Adler Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave. -Jakob Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bwi driver
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Mel Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Friday 14 August 2009 08:49:07 Neal Hogan wrote: man lspci ?? wrong distribution. Try pciconf. Ah . . . sorry, got mixed up with mailing lists. Thanks for correcting me! -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bwi driver
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Neal Hogannealho...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Mel Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Friday 14 August 2009 08:49:07 Neal Hogan wrote: man lspci ?? wrong distribution. Try pciconf. Ah . . . sorry, got mixed up with mailing lists. Thanks for correcting me! BTW - The same goes for iwconfig -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: boot sector f*ed
Right now I'm just fixing up a new set up of 7.2 on another disk and we'll see what that does. Then I will re-setup the files I had recoverd, see if they work and then do a last and final install of everything and see if that works. And if there is a problem then, then I will know for sure that it is not a hardware problem. In using computers, in general, over the past 20 plus years I have only had maybe 6 crashes... mostly Winbloz and about 3 with FBSD - and only 1 was because of defective hardware (a disk)... the rest was power outs and 1 erroneous shutdown... not bad ... and I never lost irreplaceable files. :-) Took some time to recover them, but recover did as recover should. Oh, well, before I give it all up, I'm giving it one final shot. PJ observation+ If I may . . . (again ;-), why is it not a hardware issue? You're a self-proclaimed, long-time fBSD user experiencing unforeseen circumstances and the folks attempting to help aren't noobs. So, it surely can't be a user/software issue ;-) . . . It sounds like you can get the files that you need/want and then go get some new stuff. It's not expensive anymore and frankly, it seems that this thread is doomed. I apologize, but I don't have time to read the lengthy explanations/rants/responses, but I think a new chapter in PJ's life is developing and I think that you/he/she should turn the page (I know, you're trying . . .). o+ P.S. -- trim responses so we can get to the good stuff! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Raisa Brokhshtutqap...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Every time when I boot this PC it prompts for a user login which I don't know. This guy who intalled FreeBSD is not around anymore. Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall that program. I don't have windows reskue cd. So I want to completly remove that FreeBSD from my PC and to install the Windows operating system from CD. Perhaps you should talk to MS people about installing MS. FreBSD is not in your way. The MS install disc(s) should take care of freeBSD. Thank you Raisa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Jonathan McKeownj.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. [snip] To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. And when I mean easier I mean it should be done without bothering the user unless you about to rm -rf / as root, so to say. This is what a couple of projects are already doing. PC-BSD springs to mind - I can't remember what the other one is called. DesktopBSD PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified package manager. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions)
In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer user should. The problem herein, i am afraid, lies not with FreeBSD(or any other BSD flavour), nor with it's community, but with the computer user. Most computer users see an operating system(and the application they run most) as part of a computer. How many people say My computer is broken when µ$ Office doesn't start anymore. They don't care about which kernel they run, or which browser they use, they care about typing e-mail, chatting and watching youtube video's. (However sad it makes me that most people use less then 10% of the features/programs/potential/computing-power the computer came with, they do make sure we pay less for our components.) Even though I'd feel less cool or nerdy (which is basically the same thing ;-) ) if I'd run(or USE) the same OS as my 76 year old grandfather, it would be nice for him to be able to buy a computer for $20 less because it runs FreeBSD. To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. And when I mean easier I mean it should be done without bothering the user unless you about to rm -rf / as root, so to say. Since most people never reinstall their computer, making it easier to install a basic desktop system won't help my 76 year old grandpa, but it will make it easier for unsatisfied Windows users to try FreeBSD. Besides, in making it easy to install a basic desktop system, comes the hardest part of any *nix like system: defining a basic desktop and collecting the basic/standard applications. It's hard just to pick either one Gnome, KDE or XFCE (or iceWM ;-) ) let alone mail-clients, internet browsers, IM, etc. etc. One of the advantages of using a descent operating system is the freedom of choice. However most users don't care! I am more then happy to tel anyone which e-mail client not to use (Lotus notes, outlook express, anyone else's neck hears standing up?), but I don't want to tell people they HAVE to use Thunderbird(I do tell them they SHOULD but that's different) or evolution etc. The problem is, most people don't want to make this choice either. And the circle of life continues. So basically, to make sure people will be using freeBSD (or any *nix operating system) it needs to be easy to install (So that PC-manufacturers will ship their pc's with it), a nicely filled standard desktop environment with lot's of youtube/chat/word process capabilities and I won't bother you with it but i'm updating functionality. Just some thoughts.. I'll get back to work now... ... I must say that I find this (new) thread a bit funny since it was inspired by a guy (the OP) who has been using fBSD for many years (over 5 . . . I can't remember the exact number). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2
inspired by a guy (the OP) who has been using fBSD for many years (over 5 . . . I can't remember the exact number). I have been struggling to use FreeBSD for a shorter amount of time (for a fileserver). I was originally attracted to OpenBSD for security. However, OpenBSD users are expected to compile all patches from source. Since I wasn't planning on doing code-reviews myself, I saw little benefit in using extra disk space and compile time when binaries would do.i run -current (via snapshots) [snip . . . a lot, which I didn't read] So, this long story boils down to the following question: What is that best way to use the handbook and related documentation (like man-pages)? What?! Ummm . . . read them. I'm not trying to be too big of a dick, but your question strikes me as odd. Read them when you come across something that is troubling you. I suppose there is no need to read about, say, wifi card drivers that you don't use. I am willing to do some reading, but get distracted by irrelevant or sometimes too low-level stuff. I want to avoid programing as much as possible until I actually have a work-station I am comfortable playing around with. How do you expect to get comfortable w/out playing around, other than, I guess (a'la above) reading the documentation? Thinking about it in the week before posting this, I think that part of my problem is I want to use the documentation to do the right thing rather than experiment. Once I move the family's files onto the server, it becomes essential. I won't be able to have it out of commission for weeks at a time. I hope with the server properly set up, win98 may even be usable again: just do a clean install every morning! I even downloaded the Windows 7 RC so that I can be informed when I say it sucks. Regards, James Phillips PS: I find it a little annoying that FreeBSD releases faster than I can configure my computer! ;) Again . . . What?! You're not required to update every time there is a release. This too is odd, IMO. __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2
How do you expect to get comfortable w/out playing around, other than, I guess (a'la above) reading the documentation? Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing around on my workstation that would be a separate computer. I want to build myself a sand-box so I don't have to worry about breaking stuff that is unrelated. Another way of asking the question: How much of a learning curve is configuring FreeBSD (for Samba, NFS, DVD burning (backups) expected to be? Am I reading too much because of a learning disability, or do I really need to read and understand that much detail? I have some experience with Dos/Windows, and Linux (mainly Debian based). I'm still a bit dumb-founded, because I'm not sure what an answer to that question would look like and how one could formulate a decent answer. I wonder if installing fBSD on a sand-box partition/machine and just build sand castles until you're comfortable is the best way to go. If your looking for someone (i.e., one or three folks) to say, Oh, fBSD is very intuitive and if you know M$, then the migration should be a breeze! Good luck! In fact, how would you treat any answer that you got to your question. I think you should just try it (I suspect having a linux background will help). Regards, James Phillips __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new machine trying to install /usr/ports
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Adminad...@enabled.com wrote: hi there, I am trying to get some basic ports tools installed on a new machine. I downloaded the entire ports.tar.gz and then placed all those contents in /usr/ports What are the best next steps to follow to get things up an running? I was hoping to install portsnap but here the error I am receiving. What is wrong? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/portsnap.html su-3.2# pkg_add -r portsnap Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/Latest/portsnap.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/Latest/portsnap.tbz' by URL Cheers, Noah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ftps ?(off-topic)
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Mark Stapperst...@mapper.nl wrote: Neal Hogan wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ワシントン odhia...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk frederi...@isafeelin.org wrote: Odhiambo ワシントン wrote: What is ftps? # grep ftps /etc/services ftps-data 989/tcp# ftp protocol, data, over TLS/SSL ftps-data 989/udp ftps990/tcp# ftp protocol, control, over TLS/SSL ftps990/udp pure-ftpd supports TLS/SSL. I am wondering if it can do this. I was curious about the OP's use of 'ftps too. Perhaps, he could explain what plain-old-ftp doesn't do and what he wants it to do. When in doubt, use she. :) I wasn't in doubt, but perhaps my chauvinism reared its head. I apologize if I offended anyone. It's actually quite funny that you bring this up, because I'm involved in a thread on debian-user@ with this topic. I (correctly) referred to someone as Mr. So-n-so and others questioned my choice of masculine reference. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org It would be nice to hear more she-calling on these lists though... So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing list should be referred to as she like we do with boats and institutions like the court... (well in dutch we do...) However, Frederique should imply the person who started this thread is female. Perhaps . . . Either that or cette person has cruel parents... New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender when posting. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ftps ?
2009/8/3 Odhiambo ワシントン odhia...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk frederi...@isafeelin.org wrote: Odhiambo ワシントン wrote: What is ftps? # grep ftps /etc/services ftps-data 989/tcp# ftp protocol, data, over TLS/SSL ftps-data 989/udp ftps990/tcp# ftp protocol, control, over TLS/SSL ftps990/udp pure-ftpd supports TLS/SSL. I am wondering if it can do this. I was curious about the OP's use of 'ftps too. Perhaps, he could explain what plain-old-ftp doesn't do and what he wants it to do. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!. -- Lucky Dube ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ftps ?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Frederique Rijsdijkfrederi...@isafeelin.org wrote: Neal Hogan wrote: I was curious about the OP's use of 'ftps too. Perhaps, he could explain what plain-old-ftp doesn't do and what he wants it to do. Encryption! OK! (If I just said that I wanted to run something like 'xyzs', would that be clear to you?) www.openssh.org -- Frederique ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ftps ?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ワシントン odhia...@gmail.com: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk frederi...@isafeelin.org wrote: Odhiambo ワシントン wrote: What is ftps? # grep ftps /etc/services ftps-data 989/tcp# ftp protocol, data, over TLS/SSL ftps-data 989/udp ftps990/tcp# ftp protocol, control, over TLS/SSL ftps990/udp pure-ftpd supports TLS/SSL. I am wondering if it can do this. I was curious about the OP's use of 'ftps too. Perhaps, he could explain what plain-old-ftp doesn't do and what he wants it to do. When in doubt, use she. :) I wasn't in doubt, but perhaps my chauvinism reared its head. I apologize if I offended anyone. It's actually quite funny that you bring this up, because I'm involved in a thread on debian-user@ with this topic. I (correctly) referred to someone as Mr. So-n-so and others questioned my choice of masculine reference. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:32:49AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? I use Firefox (because every page displays well and I can sync bookmarks), and I also use elinks (when graphics don't matter). I'm looking for some middle ground, a browser that can display most sites well but is faster (or more lightweight) than Firefox. (Note: I tried dillo, but it doesn't display most sites well enough.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers That seems to a logical suggestion given that I'm (we are) not sure what you are looking for. ~Firefox is too slow and dillo doesn't display most websites . . . well enough~ is a bit tough to parse (specifically, to your needs). I find ff to be good enough, as far as your requirements are concerned, as well as IE (ugh!). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: asking about NIC card for freebsd 7.2 i386
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:13 AM, husai...@streamyx.com wrote: i doubt about NIC card BMC5674 support or not for freebsd7.2 ? or should i use freebsd8.2 beta ? hope reply me. Neither (or both). The Broadcom cards are tricky and they have been talked about a lot. Look at this list's archives and/or google something like freebsd broadcom also, look up information on freebsd's ndiswrapper. good luck! from, Husaini ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: (no subject)
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jon Radelj...@radel.com wrote: wcl...@dl1.njit.edu wrote: How do I set up mail server on 7.2bsd That's such a broad question that it's unreasonable to expect a complete answer on a mailing list. So I'd suggest you start with reading some documentation, such as http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html Once you've decided which e-mail server you wish to use and what you want it to do, feel free to come back with specific questions if things go wrong or specific steps remain obscure. +1 . . . and a descriptive (email) subject line may help attract help. Prior to opening, I was intrigued to see what a post about nothing would look like ;-) -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Xorg and Dual Head Video?
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Genef...@brightstar.bomgardner.net wrote: Hi All: I was wondering if anyone could point me toward any docs, or even better, how-tos on setting up Xorg using dual head video? I use xrandr(1). Below is my xorg.conf. HTH. 1 Section ServerLayout 2 Identifier X.org Configured 3 Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 4 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer 5 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard 6 EndSection 7 8 Section Files 9 ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules 10 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ 11 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ 12 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF 13 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ 14 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ 15 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ 16 EndSection 17 18 Section Module 19 Load GLcore 20 Load dbe 21 Load dri 22 Load extmod 23 Load glx 24 Load record 25 Load xtrap 26 Load freetype 27 Load type1 28 EndSection 29 30 Section InputDevice 31 Identifier Keyboard0 32 Driver kbd 33 EndSection 34 35 Section InputDevice 36 Identifier Mouse0 37 Driver mouse 38 Option Protocol wsmouse 39 Option Device /dev/wsmouse 40 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 41 EndSection 42 43 Section Monitor 44 Identifier Monitor0 45 VendorName Lenovo 46 ModelNameT400 47 EndSection 48 49 Section Monitor 50 Identifier Monitor1 51 VendorName LG 52 ModelNameFlatron 53 Option DPMS 54 EndSection 55 56 Section Device 57 ### Available Driver options are:- 58 ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, 59 ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz 60 ### [arg]: arg optional 61 #Option NoAccel # [bool] 62 #Option SWcursor # [bool] 63 #Option ColorKey # i 64 #Option CacheLines# i 65 #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] 66 #Option DRI # [bool] 67 #Option NoDDC # [bool] 68 #Option ShowCache # [bool] 69 #Option XvMCSurfaces # i 70 #Option PageFlip # [bool] 71 Identifier Card0 72 Driver intel 73 VendorName Intel 74 BoardName GM45 Video 75 BusID PCI:0:2:0 76 Option monitor-T400 Monitor0 77 Option monitor-LG Monitor1 78 EndSection 79 80 Section Screen 81 Identifier Screen0 82 Device Card0 83 #MonitorMonitor0 84 SubSection Display 85 Viewport 0 0 86 Depth 1 87 EndSubSection 88 SubSection Display 89 Viewport 0 0 90 Depth 4 91 EndSubSection 92 SubSection Display 93 Viewport 0 0 94 Depth 8 95 EndSubSection 96 SubSection Display 97 Viewport 0 0 98 Depth 15 99 EndSubSection 100 SubSection Display 101 Viewport 0 0 102 Depth 16 103 EndSubSection 104 SubSection Display 105 Virtual 2880 900 106 Viewport 0 0 107 Depth 24 108 EndSubSection 109 EndSection Thanks, IHN, Gene -- To everything there is a season, And a time to every purpose under heaven. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IPFW: Need some help
2009/6/28 Anton an...@sng.by: Hello all, I'm new to *nix and now, while configuring IPFW Firewall on FreeBSD 7.2 has stuck in a problem: After packet from my network is passed to natd demon - it is returning t o firewall (it is normal, as I think ;-) ), but I see another abnormal thin g: when it is returned to firewall, it does not come under rule which state s to allow packet from some host in my network, and goes under rule which a llows packets from FreeBSD box. I.e.: packet from 192.168.0.2, directed to 86.57.250.18 comes to freebsd box. First, it comes to rule, which NATs it to interface ng0. Then, after NAT rule, there is rule, which allows packet flow from 192.168.0.2 to 86.57 .250.18 out via ng0. But, IPFW does not show, that any packet is allowed by this rule - is rather shows that packets are allowed by another rule: allo w all from me to any. I'm no IPFW expert, but it seems to me that the packets are already in and NAT'd. Then they're being redirected internally. Thus being allowed from 'you' to any (Don't take this explanation as true. It's merely my understanding from the brief look at the link Mr, Barber sent you, which you read . . . right?) Need help in explaining in this problem, and how to alter the things in the way i need it (if it is real) Two suggestions for getting more specific help: 1) Look around on the web. There appear to be many discussion about IPFW and NAT. (eg., http://freebsd.rogness.net/redirect.cgi?basic/nat.html). 2) Post your ruleset. This way, folk will know what to alter. -- -- Best regards, Anton ; [1]mailto:an...@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3Dmailto:an...@sng.by; ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IRC
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:05 AM, malathi selvarajmalathira...@gmail.com wrote: how to join freebsd in irc http://www.freebsd.org/community/irc.html Take a second to look around . . . (this refers to your other question, as well) -- S.MALATHI ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to auto-mount a CD in XFCE4
man umount On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Jerryges...@yahoo.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:09:58 -0400 Chad Brown free...@gmail.com wrote: See here (#3): http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html OK, now I discovered a new problem. When attempting to eject the CD, I am greeted with another error message, viewable at the following URL. http://imagebin.ca/view/wa99wB.html I cannot remove the CD from the drive. That kind of sucks. I may have to reboot to get it out. The output of polkit-auth: org.gnome.gconf.defaults.set-system org.gnome.gconf.defaults.set-mandatory org.freedesktop.hal.wol.enabled org.freedesktop.hal.wol.enable org.freedesktop.hal.wol.supported org.freedesktop.hal.dockstation.undock org.freedesktop.hal.killswitch.bluetooth org.freedesktop.hal.killswitch.wlan org.freedesktop.hal.killswitch.wwan org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown-multiple-sessions org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot-multiple-sessions org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.set-powersave org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.suspend org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.hibernate org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.cpufreq org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.lcd-panel org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.light-sensor org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.keyboard-backlight org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-removable org.freedesktop.hal.storage.unmount-others org.freedesktop.hal.storage.eject org.freedesktop.hal.storage.crypto-setup-fixed org.freedesktop.hal.storage.crypto-setup-removable org.freedesktop.hal.lock org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop-multiple-users org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart-multiple-users org.freedesktop.policykit.read org.freedesktop.policykit.revoke org.freedesktop.policykit.grant org.freedesktop.policykit.modify-defaults -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Do not do unto others as you would they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same. George Bernard Shaw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II)
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Manolis Kiagiasson...@otenet.gr wrote: Andrew Gould wrote: 2009/6/16 Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com: List of main packages == This is a comprehensive list of packages included in the ISO: abiword, archivers (zip, unzip, rar, unrar) bash, bluefish, cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, evince, firefox3, gimp, gnash, gnumeric, gnupg, inkscape, mercurial, pkg_rmleaves, portaudit, portupgrade, rdesktop, rtorrent, ristretto, samba, scribus, sudo, thunderbird, tilda, wget, xfburn, xfce4 + plugins, xorg, zim. Would you consider adding unix2dos? Thanks Andrew Sure. I am making a list of what people would like to see included, and will add most of them in the next iteration. Small utilities like this are not a problem. I'm curious (and it may help quell some suggestions) what your criteria is for adding things. So far, it seems that your adding all suggestions. BTW - I like this project and have been thinking of doing something similar with oBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The freebsd-questions Archives
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Leslie Jensenles...@eskk.nu wrote: Hello list! I try not to disturb the list unless I need to using the list archive to find answers. I've never been successful in searching the archives it always returns No matches were found for ... Now I see that the search index is not rebuild for a long time -- Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08 Feb 2007 06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found by a search. Index rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours for this list. You can use a View by date link below to access more recent postings. --- How should I search the list ? http://marc.info/?w=2 /Leslie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Installation Manual
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:09 AM, n...@pettefar.com wrote: In www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-post.html It says: If the X server has been configured and a Default Desktop chosen, it can be started by typing startx at the command line. but nowhere in the manual or the installation program is there any information or options on X server configuration or choosing a Default Desktop! Help! http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11.html [+] Nick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cronjob
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Jos Chrispijn j...@webrz.net wrote: I would like to execute a script on every last day of the month in my crontab. Can someone tell me how I should solve that as it doesn't know which month day is the last day of the month? If it really needs to be done on the last day of each month (eg, the 28th of Feb . . . the 31st of Oct . . . etc.), I suppose you could set up 12 different jobs. Be aware of the dreaded leap year, though! Solving this in the script to be executed is no option. Thanks, Jos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sponsoring ZFS development on FreeBSD
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: My question is concerning sponsoring the FreeBSD project and ZFS development in particular. I know I am just a relatively poor person so I can't contribute much (maybe on the order of 20-30 euro a month), donati...@freebsd.org and of course you may sponsor it too by improving ZFS code, or maybe - making some better FS. but I keep seeing FreeBSD core team members keep mentioning we value donations of all sizes, so what the hell :) Anyways, in the past I have directed my donations to The FreeBSD Foundation, if I want to ensure that as much of my money as possible goes directly to benefit the development of ZFS support on FreeBSD, should I continue donating just tell them about it. hahahahaha ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sponsoring ZFS development on FreeBSD
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Pieter de Goeje pie...@degoeje.nl wrote: On Saturday 06 June 2009 13:47:57 Neal Hogan wrote: On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: My question is concerning sponsoring the FreeBSD project and ZFS development in particular. I know I am just a relatively poor person so I can't contribute much (maybe on the order of 20-30 euro a month), donati...@freebsd.org and of course you may sponsor it too by improving ZFS code, or maybe - making some better FS. but I keep seeing FreeBSD core team members keep mentioning we value donations of all sizes, so what the hell :) Anyways, in the past I have directed my donations to The FreeBSD Foundation, if I want to ensure that as much of my money as possible goes directly to benefit the development of ZFS support on FreeBSD, should I continue donating just tell them about it. hahahahaha I'm not sure why you are laughing, because you _can_ tell the FreeBSD Foundation how you would like them to spent your money. If you click on Donate there's a box where you can enter the project(s) you'd like to see funded. Although ZFS isn't currently listed as a project, I'm sure there's enough interest from the community. Just to clarify. . . I'm not laughing at just the response, which was appropriate. I was laughing at the combination of response and responder. I'll shut up now. -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hello
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: I am trying to install freebsd on my m-2625u gateway laptop but am running into trouble. whe I try to start x all I get is a black screen. X -configure and look if it works fine (no crash etc). It will generate xorg.conf file in current directory. move it to /etc/X11 and try to edit something Xorg tries to autoconfigure things but it may not always work if auto-config fails, check out the xrandr pkg/port to get some screen specs. Have you looked at the output of 'dmesg' (or /var/run/dmesg.boot)? It will give you detailed hardware info. Also, I suggest posting that info on this list as well. Perhaps someone has the same hardware as you and can suggest something specific to it. -Neal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:57:57PM +0200, Peter Boosten wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Actually, that's technically your estimation -- not your opinion. It may be correct or incorrect (and if it's incorrect, then I'm incorrect too, because I have come to the same conclusion), but the fact it's not a settled matter doesn't mean it's opinion. The term opinion has a very specific meaning, and this isn't it. Saying *you* don't appreciate it would be a matter of opinion. Saying you think most people don't appreciate it would be an estimation of the popularity of a given opinion -- but not an opinion itself. Huh? I don't mean to bust your balls on this, so to speak. I just want to offer my thoughts on the matter of what does and does not constitute opinion so that people who disdain what others observe but cannot necessarily prove will not find it as easy to dismiss things as mere opinion. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: Why do we never have time to do it right, but always have time to do it over? -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: It is NOT an opinion that you were rude in your reply, and it is NOT an opinion that it's not your place to advise on how much constitutes an 'acceptable' or 'sufficient' donation. You were just plain wrong in doing so, and you should either quietly stop replying defending your actions, or even perhaps admit you were wrong and apologise. just another funny post - it's not an opinion, it's a fact BECAUSE YOU DECIDED SO. How many opinions do you need before you start taking this seriously? Please add me to the list of those who find many (if not all) of opinionated comments to be obnoxious. -Neal please post more :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Of course - ban it! Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;) This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all! Well, that certainly doesn't follow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. But you're the troublemaker that needs shutting up. i don't see the matureness of comments like this. possibly you meant it in a different way. of course it's very mature response :) it was repeated so many times this or similar way at me that it matured! That's actually pretty funny! Nice! i haven't read through the posts and don't plan on doing so, but if there are wildly ot posts on the thread, i can understand why some people would be concerned. and that's just another argument of making moderated list in parallel of this unmoderated. As far as having the right to post your opinion . . sure . . . but that does not mean that your opinions are just as good as others. Being of the opinion that the earth is flat is just not a very good opinion . . . no? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Well, that certainly doesn't follow. Actually, that one does. Don't bother, he just answered that after reading wojciech puchar in mail header, so he had to be against. No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functional/reliable OS. If so, good luck making that argument. Wojciech, I, like many others who have responded on this thread, appreciate much of the help that you provide on this list. You seem to fail (for whatever reason) to understand that your opinionated comments may need to be better thought out. If you were the monitor of your utopian mailing list, what would you have done with your response to the OP? If you use FreeBSD because of the OS functionality/reliability, etc then trashy noise on the questions list wouldn't make a difference in your choice. i can give myself as an example. Even no forum at all won't make me change it. But i want high quality forum, because i like new users who want to learn true good unix to not be stucked up by some simple problem with that OS, that by accident isn't described well in handbook or manual. That's for what forum should be, and why it should be moderated, and posting rules clearly defined for all users. It will be then FreeBSD forum after all, not everything-about-something-more-or-less-remotely-connected-with-unix. If you stop using it because you don't like the noise, then functionality is not your high priority. Maybe saying 'at all' is over the top. maybe not at all, but at least it means that such user don't see a functionality difference between FreeBSD and some other system, so he can choose because of forum quality, personal taste, what name sounds better and what logo looks nicer. -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: No! Unless you think that fBSd is the only functional/reliable OS. If for my needs it's actually true. Only FreeBSD meets my requirements. slide ok . . . /slide Wojciech, I, like many others who have responded on this thread, appreciate much of the help that you provide on this list. You seem to fail (for whatever reason) to understand that your opinionated comments may need to be better thought out. If you were the monitor of your utopian mailing list, what would you have done with your Of course - you already decided about utopian. no argument for this. response to the OP? as i said (another example you don't read what i write carefully) i would first define strict rules of posting. and then moderators should only execute them. If i would be moderator i could only do this, or stop being moderator. If rules would allow any discussion if moderator should or should not delete post, then rules are wrong and must be fixed. moderator can not have any power to resolve personal things through it. I read what you posted carefully. I'm asking you to play pretend . . . if you were the moderator of the list you suggest, do you think that the response you gave to the OP, as a non-developer, is acceptable. That is, do you think that that those who have no responsibility as far as what is done with $$ donated to the fBSD cause (i.e., you) should respond to to those who wish to donate? For a minute there, I was hoping that it was a language issue (BTW - I think your English is quite good), but now I think it's an attention issue. -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't play videos on 7.2
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, jery rihaz.jer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am using Freebsd 7.2 my system hangs when playing videos, it's the same for vlc and totem. From the Xorg.0.log file intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset, Intel Integrated Graphics Device, G45/G43, What are you using to play the vids? Thank you Rihaz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't get ndis0 working
. . . I had a discussion on this list a little while back about the ndis wrapper. Perhaps some of the suggestions made to me by folks who have had success with it will help you. It looks as though you did some (if not all) of the things that I did, which were commented on in the discussion. My patience wore too thin for me to fully work it out, but perhaps you're a better man than I. http://freebsd.monkey.org/freebsd-questions/200901/msg00435.html One thing that may not be mentioned in the above the thread is that you may have to try different .inf and .sys files until you get one that works . . . that consumed most of the little patience that I had. Good luck! -Neal Best regards, Richard HOB RD VPN - einfach, sicher und flexibel auf alle Unternehmensanwendungen und -daten zugreifen Praesentation unter: http://www.hob.de/rdvpn2/ HOB GmbH Co. KG Schwadermuehlstr. 3 D-90556 Cadolzburg Geschaeftsfuehrung: Klaus Brandstaetter, Franz Wiedenmann, Zoran Adamovic AG Fuerth, HRA 5180 Steuer-Nr. 218/163/00107 USt-ID-Nr. DE 132747002 Komplementaerin HOB electronic Beteiligungs GmbH AG Fuerth, HRB 3416 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Shakil Khan korikov...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of FreeBSD kernek source code. I'm likely missing something . . . I apologize if I am, but why can't you use CVS on linux? One of many examples found after googling installing cvs linux: http://www.freeos.com/articles/4608/ Regards ~Korikov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to?
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Lloyd Friedman lloy...@verizon.net wrote: I have a Microway computer with a PC164LX. How and where can I down load FreeBSD ALPHA version. I know it is no longer supported, but I believe there are older versions I can down load. If not, then I will have to try to find a Linux that will work. I'm not sure about fBSD issue and if this is kosher, but, if you wanna stay with a BSD (which is okay with me), why not try netBSD, which prides itself on being compatible/supported with everything (AFAIK)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: X-Org problem
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Ott Köstner o...@zzz.ee wrote: Dear list, After upgrading Xorg from ports to the latest version xorg-server-1.6.0,1 xorg-7.4_1 I am experiencing very unpleasant phenomenon, Xorg randomly exiting with message: Apr 24 15:16:16 ott kernel: pid 7445 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 Apr 24 15:16:16 ott kdm-bin[1020]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly Also, there is a strange behavior with dual-head mode -- when moving cursor from one screen to another, the little white arrow remains on the other screen. Please help! What might it be? Recompiled probably everything related to Xorg. Using Nvidia driver version nvidia-driver-96.43.11 I'm no expert, but to help those that are, I suggest that you post the contents of your /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log (perhaps a dmesg, too). With best regards, Ott Köstner ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd vs. pc-bsd
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Michael Jr. mjrh...@windstream.net wrote: Hi, I was just wondering what are the major differences between freebsd and pc-bsd and is it harder or just as easy to setup freebsd as a desktop compared to pc-bsd? Will freebsd work with sager laptops, and will freebsd recognize 4 gigs of ddr3 memory and if it does not regularly, how can I get freebsd to recognize 4 gigs of ddr3 memory? Will freebsd be able to recognize the latest technologies, like intel core 2 duo and the new Nvidia GTX260m, and hard drives at any speed like 7200 rpm? I don't know any kind of code so is there any books or any kind of resources that you recommend I look at? Have you looked at . . . I mean read . . the PC-BSD and/or freeBSD sites? pcbsd.org freebsd.org Sorry I have so many questions but I just ordered a new sager laptop and I do not really want to have to use windows vista if I don't have to, and I think it would be fun to learn how to use freebsd. Thank you, Michael Haid ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need to change screen resolution...
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I am trying to find a way to change my current screen resolution from the default 720x426 (I think). The monitor I use to view all my servers via KVM switch - the font is too big on the screen - if I could increase the screen size to maybe 1028x756 that would be great. from what you've got that nonsense numbers like 720x426 Probably from an onscreen display on the monitor. It suggests a text console, so vidcontrol(1) would be the place to look. Not sure why everyone seems to be thinking X would be used on a server. Because it could be? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: missing xorgconfig
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM, kenneth hatteland kenneth.hattel...@kleppnett.no wrote: Having reinstalled my laptop twice and updated to stable 7.2 prerelease but each time no xorgconfig exists as I am used to. xfce4 starts ok, but I get the known mouse locked problem and would love and xorg.conf to edit as I have learned but it doesn`t exist. Anyone know hos to install xorgconfig manually ?? www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html kenneth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need to change screen resolution...
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Q. Taylor q...@netsys.hn wrote: Hello I am trying to find a way to change my current screen resolution from the default 720x426 (I think). The monitor I use to view all my servers via KVM switch - the font is too big on the screen - if I could increase the screen size to maybe 1028x756 that would be great. Any one knowing please email me the answer. Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Regs QTaylor --- Quin Taylor Operations Manager The NetSys Company CONATEL Reg. #RA0002 Email: q...@netsys.hn WWWeb site: http://www.netsys.hn Office: 504-566-1055 Cellular: 504-391-5955 USA-VoIP: 954-234-2098 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: add to mailing list
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Rajeev Sharma rajb3...@gmail.com wrote: Kindly add me in FreeBSD mailing list I will, only if you consider the following link ;) http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions rajb3...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What flash players should be used from ports?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Falanga af300...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to finally get a flashplayer installed for use with Firefox. Which one should I use from the ports system? I found this one that looks promising: /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-mozilla Is the recommended one, or should I choose another? I found /usr/ports/graphics/gnash to be acceptable. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: does ndisgen work with(mini) pci-E cards?
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Steve Franks bahamasfra...@gmail.com wrote: My new laptop is the fist I've seen with mini-pci-express. Major PITA. I get ndis0 after ndisgen/kldload/etc, but I can see any AP's, and I'm wondering if it's due to the new bus? I suspect I'm barking up the wrong tree since the driver does get loaded, it's probably finding the card...other thoughts I'm having is alot of QA I've googled makes reference to the speficic rev of ndis (4.0, 5.0, 5.1)...maybe that's an issue... Best, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This isn't going to be much help, but it may add to your relief/dismay . . . I hope it's the former. I had enough problems trying to get my Broadcom card (mini-pci - BCM94306MP) to work that i gave up and just plug it in. I would get it installed and it would panic. You seem to have avoided that . . . good. What .sys and .inf files are you using? From what I understand, you need/should try a bunch 'til one works. I wish you the best of luck! -Neal -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
amarok + ipod
(no luck on the multimedia list . . . so, I'm trying here) Hello, Well, I've got amarok running with 7.1-RELEASE and my question concerns amarok's interaction with an ipod. I am able to transfer music from my computer to the ipod and can play music that's on the ipod on amarok, but the quality, in both cases is quite poor. There is a lot of skipping, repetition, and general distortion. The songs sound fine from their source (i.e., the transferring device). I've been looking around (google, mailing list archives, etc.), but I don't see any suggestions. I'm hoping you may provide some guidance. Also, when I quit amarok, it doesn't appear to fully shutdown. It will get to a point in the process and just hang. If I press enter after several seconds of waiting, I get back to my prompt. The point at which it hangs is not consistent. Do you need a dmesg or anything? Thanks! -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: (no subject)
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, ayyappa mhsp ayyappam...@yahoo.co.inwrote: sir, i just want to know during the installation of bsd all the applications that are in packages are installed or simply added to some directories. I want to generate some tcp or some other packets on one system. Just tell me how to work with packages. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7 and 2 monitors
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:56 PM, User Wblock wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, M. Vale wrote: Hi, I have 2 monitors (20 Asus) with a Radeon X1600/X1650 PRO configure with xrand and everything works ok. The resolution I'm using right now is 3360x1050. Now I've a brand new Asus 24 (MK241H), and I can use this monitor with the other asus. My configuration now is 1 monitor 24 Asus and another one 20, but xrand cant use this to make one desktop :( Please post specifics. Do you have any solutions or recomendations in how to put this 2 monitors working. Use xorg.conf instead of xrandr? Curious . . . Are there are any benefits to using just the xorg.conf, besides the dual head set-up being initiated automatically when X starts? What happens, for example, when one of your monitors is a laptop's monitor and you start X without connected to the other monitor (say, I'm at Starbuck's)? Thanks! one monitor max resolution is 1920 x 1200 (24) and the other Asus 1680 x 1050 (20). I have a 1920x1200 and 1024x768 dual monitors with an X1650 right here. Here's the xorg.conf: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Option Blank Time 0 Option Standby Time 0 Option Suspend Time 0 Option Off Time 0 EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ EndSection Section DRI Group 0 Mode 0660 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName HWP ModelName2615 Option PreferredMode 1920x1200 Option Position 1024 0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 VendorName PHL ModelNamePhilips 150B3 Option PreferredMode 1024x768 Option Position 0 0 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option Dac6Bit # [bool] #Option Dac8Bit # [bool] #Option BusType # [str] #Option CPPIOMode # [bool] #Option CPusecTimeout # i #Option AGPMode # i #Option AGPFastWrite # [bool] #Option AGPSize # i #Option GARTSize # i #Option RingSize # i #Option BufferSize# i #Option EnableDepthMoves # [bool] #Option EnablePageFlip# [bool] #Option NoBackBuffer # [bool] #Option DMAForXv # [bool] #Option FBTexPercent # i #Option DepthBits # i #Option PCIAPERSize # i #Option AccelDFS # [bool] #Option DDCMode # [bool] #Option IgnoreEDID# [bool] #Option DisplayPriority # [str] #Option PanelSize # [str] #Option ForceMinDotClock # freq #Option ColorTiling # [bool] #Option VideoKey # i #Option RageTheatreCrystal# i #Option RageTheatreTunerPort # i #Option RageTheatreCompositePort # i #Option RageTheatreSVideoPort # i #Option TunerType # i #Option RageTheatreMicrocPath # str #Option RageTheatreMicrocType # str #Option ScalerWidth # i #Option RenderAccel # [bool] #Option SubPixelOrder # [str] #Option ShowCache # [bool] #Option DynamicClocks # [bool] #Option VGAAccess # [bool] #Option ReverseDDC# [bool] #Option LVDSProbePLL # [bool] #Option AccelMethod # str #Option DRI # [bool] #Option ConnectorTable# str #Option DefaultConnectorTable # [bool]
Re: FreeBSD 7 and 2 monitors
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM, M. Vale maurov...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have 2 monitors (20 Asus) with a Radeon X1600/X1650 PRO configure with xrand and everything works ok. The resolution I'm using right now is 3360x1050. Now I've a brand new Asus 24 (MK241H), and I can use this monitor with the other asus. My configuration now is 1 monitor 24 Asus and another one 20, but xrand cant use this to make one desktop :( can we see your xorg.conf? Do you have any solutions or recomendations in how to put this 2 monitors working. one monitor max resolution is 1920 x 1200 (24) and the other Asus 1680 x 1050 (20). Best Regards Mauro V. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Important
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Mohit Arora mohitaro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team , I having Windows XP haing 512MB RAM .Please let me know the proper step by step method to download freeBsD online .Please explain by giving example of 7.1 version. Thanks regards Mohit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
xorg-server-1.5.3_7, /usr/ports/UPDATING, mouse
Well, recently I deinstalled all of my third party apps . . . long story (some of which is documented on this list) . . . but the short story is that some were added via the ports tree and others via pkg_add. When it came time to portupdate, I was having problems and it was brought to my attention that, among other things, mixing ports and packages may lead to problems. Also, I didn't do the massive deinstall until after I had portupgraded all of my packages individually and the mouse/keyboard didn't work with X (it did at the console). Once this happened I felt compelled to wipe the slate. So, with no ports/packages installed and starting with a fresh ports tree, I began installing them one-by-one: 1) cd /usr/ports/path/port 2) make make install make clean I started with xorg. After it was installed, I tried to start X (startx) . . . no dice . . . no big deal. I created the basic xorg.conf (Xorg -configure), tried it (Xorg -config xorg.conf.new). X started, but no mouse activity and ctrl+alt+backspace did not quit X. I had moused enable in rc.conf and, as I say above the mouse worked (i.e., it moved when asked) at the console. /usr/ports/UPDATING says that some mouse issues were cleared up: 20090124: 241 AFFECTS: users of x11-servers/xorg-server, sysutils/hal 242 AUTHOR: rnol...@freebsd.org 243 244 sysutils/hal has been updated and should now properly detect 245 mice for use in Xorg. Use of AllowEmptyInput should no longer 246 be needed for most users and moused should now work fine. But, as I say, I have no mouse under X. So, I try adding: Option AllowEmptyInput off in my xorg.conf and Hey! We gotta mouse! I just rebooted and the mouse still works in X, but just before rebooting I disabled moused (in rc.conf - moused_enable=NO). So, adding the above line to xorg.conf helped with/without moused. Note that prior to this whole portupgrade deal I was running 7.1-RELEASE without an xorg.conf, put with an older xorg. At this point, I'm not upset b/c everything seems to be working fine. Just curious what might be going on. Thanks for you time. Below is my dmesg. 1 Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. 2 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 3 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. 4 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. 5 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Jan 10 19:07:15 CST 2009 6 n...@frege.lambdaserver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 7 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 8 CPU: mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP2400+ (1788.94-MHz 686-class CPU) 9 Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 10 Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMO V,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE 11 AMD Features=0xc0480800SYSCALL,MP,MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow! 12 real memory = 468647936 (446 MB) 13 avail memory = 444530688 (423 MB) 14 kbd1 at kbdmux0 15 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) 16 acpi0: PTLTD RSDT on motherboard 17 acpi0: [ITHREAD] 18 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) 19 Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 20 acpi_timer0: 32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 21 acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x18 port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 22 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 23 pci_link5: BIOS IRQ 10 for 0.10.INTA is invalid 24 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 25 agp0: ATI RS100 AGP bridge on hostb0 26 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 27 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 28 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xe000-0xefff,0xd010-0xd010 irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci1 29 ohci0: AcerLabs M5237 (Aladdin-V) USB controller mem 0xd0006000-0xd0006fff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0 30 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 31 ohci0: [ITHREAD] 32 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support 33 usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting 34 usb0: AcerLabs M5237 (Aladdin-V) USB controller on ohci0 35 usb0: USB revision 1.0 36 uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0 37 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered 38 pcm0: Acer Labs M5451 port 0x8400-0x84ff mem 0xd0007000-0xd0007fff irq 5 at device 6.0 on pci0 39 pcm0: Conexant CX20468 AC97 Codec 40 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] 41 pcm0: [ITHREAD] 42 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0 43 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 44 pci0: simple comms, generic modem at device 8.0 (no driver attached) 45 pci0: network at device 9.0 (no driver attached) 46 cbb0: O2Micro OZ6912/6972 PCI-CardBus Bridge irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 47 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 48 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0 49 cbb0: [ITHREAD] 50 fwohci0: Texas Instruments TSB43AB21/A/AI/A-EP mem 0xd0009000-0xd00097ff,0xd000-0xd0003fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0 51 fwohci0: [FILTER] 52 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) 53 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. 54 fwohci0: EUI64
Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM)
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window manager. Try a smaller one, like evilwm. It's (pretty much) all command line. For example, you would open up a term and launch firefox from there (# firefox). Once you get the hang of its keybindings, which are vi-like, it's fun and easy. It's also compatible with aterm, which will give you transparent terminals (if that's something that interests you). Also, I highly recommend that you check out http://xwinman.org. I found it to be fun and informative to peruse the list of wm's there. Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: * 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking computer * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) * 0% chance of shutting down successfully if X is running * can't exit X once started (switches monitor to power save mode and hangs) * maximum run time of 8 hours (average around 5 hours) * won't save settings and a couple minor ones: * XFCE menu doesn't work * missing icons, even after theme is changed from rodent to tango None of these were issues under XFCE4 4.4, but I'm guessing there's not a good way to get 4.4 back... What other window managers do people use, or what would you recommend and why? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupdate xorg-server
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 03:21:05PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: The last couple of days I've been running portupgrade -av and am to the point where I'd like to move onto something else, but there is one package that won't upgrade . . . xorg-server. As you can see below, it claims that there is a missing header and there are a fair amount of reported errors. I'm not the best at deciphering the stuff below. I've tried make deinstalling/reinstalling and individually portupgrading it to no avail. suggestions? glxdriswrast.c:39:39: error: GL/internal/dri_interface.h: No such file or directory $ pkg_info -W /usr/local/include/GL/internal/dri_interface.h /usr/local/include/GL/internal/dri_interface.h was installed by package xf86driproto-2.0.3 I wish to not only that Frank for his patience and subtle hand-holding, but also address the rest of the list. First, concerning the issue Mr. Shute responded to . . . I reinstalled xf86driproto, which installed the dri_interface.h, which allowed me to pkg_add xorg-server. However, it was the older version of xorg-server. So, I ran portupgrade on it and it, again, claims that there is no dri_interface.h. According to pkg_version, all xorg and xf86 ports are up-to-date, except xorg-server of which there is a newer version. That said, I was hoping that you can help me understand the portupgrade process b/c it can be a bit frustrating when it runs for a LONG time only to have upgrades fail. Please don't take my tone to be anything other than one coming from a sense of curiosity. I don't mean to suggest anything about the fBSD ports system. Perhaps my experience is the result of my own oversight. Just to be clear, here are the steps I took: 1) #portsnap fetch 2) #portsnap extract 3) #portsnap update 4) #pkgdb -u 5) #pkgdb -F 6) #portupgrade -av As I noted in another post, some ports fail to upgrade when using portupgrade -a, no matter how many times it is run. However, they (those that fail), along with their dependencies, do upgrade when portupgraded individually (or de/reinstalled). I thought the purpose of having a ports system, where you install the ports tree and use portupgrade, was to make the install/upgrade easy and rather painless, such that all ports and their dependencies are taken care of. As I write this I am running portupgrade individually, on those ports that failed to upgrade with -a option, but have (so far) succeeded in upgrading individually. I am simply looking at the output of pkg_version to find those that are not up-to-date. I could see if ports failed to upgrade or were ignored due to there being no diff between what's installed and that which is in the updated tree. Can someone shed some light on this? Thanks a lot for taking the time. -Neal HTH. snip Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portupdate xorg-server
In light of Adam's comment and thinking about the comment he's responding to, I realize that I may have been rather obnoxious. I appreciate Adam setting that aside to give me and the list some of his time. I'm rather new to fBSD (obvious) and I've got my parent's machine on it, which is hundreds of miles away and they have put in requests that led me to upgrade their system, including ports (and when X gets messed up from a remote position, it can be frustrating). So, I apologize if my comments came across in such a way that annoyed you. Not being a dev (or anywhere close), I have little room to act that way. But, I wonder what the most efficient way is to update ports. I appreciate Adam's point about the fact that portupgrade (and portmanager and portmaster) are ports themselves and are going to not be as reliable as what is in base. However, the fBSD documentation on updating ports (i.e., the handbook) only suggests the above three as ways to update ports. Is there a way to update ports from a base app? Given that a basic setup will have quite a few ports (hundreds), I was wondering if there was another way to update all (including their dependencies), rather that a one-by-one *make update* or *portupgrade*. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Adam Vandemore amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 03:21:05PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: The last couple of days I've been running portupgrade -av and am to the point where I'd like to move onto something else, but there is one package that won't upgrade . . . xorg-server. As you can see below, it claims that there is a missing header and there are a fair amount of reported errors. I'm not the best at deciphering the stuff below. I've tried make deinstalling/reinstalling and individually portupgrading it to no avail. suggestions? glxdriswrast.c:39:39: error: GL/internal/dri_interface.h: No such file or directory $ pkg_info -W /usr/local/include/GL/internal/dri_interface.h /usr/local/include/GL/internal/dri_interface.h was installed by package xf86driproto-2.0.3 I wish to not only that Frank for his patience and subtle hand-holding, but also address the rest of the list. First, concerning the issue Mr. Shute responded to . . . I reinstalled xf86driproto, which installed the dri_interface.h, which allowed me to pkg_add xorg-server. However, it was the older version of xorg-server. So, I ran portupgrade on it and it, again, claims that there is no dri_interface.h. According to pkg_version, all xorg and xf86 ports are up-to-date, except xorg-server of which there is a newer version. That said, I was hoping that you can help me understand the portupgrade process b/c it can be a bit frustrating when it runs for a LONG time only to have upgrades fail. Please don't take my tone to be anything other than one coming from a sense of curiosity. I don't mean to suggest anything about the fBSD ports system. Perhaps my experience is the result of my own oversight. Just to be clear, here are the steps I took: 1) #portsnap fetch 2) #portsnap extract 3) #portsnap update 4) #pkgdb -u 5) #pkgdb -F 6) #portupgrade -av As I noted in another post, some ports fail to upgrade when using portupgrade -a, no matter how many times it is run. However, they (those that fail), along with their dependencies, do upgrade when portupgraded individually (or de/reinstalled). I thought the purpose of having a ports system, where you install the ports tree and use portupgrade, was to make the install/upgrade easy and rather painless, such that all ports and their dependencies are taken care of. As I write this I am running portupgrade individually, on those ports that failed to upgrade with -a option, but have (so far) succeeded in upgrading individually. I am simply looking at the output of pkg_version to find those that are not up-to-date. I could see if ports failed to upgrade or were ignored due to there being no diff between what's installed and that which is in the updated tree. Can someone shed some light on this? Thanks a lot for taking the time. -Neal Part of the issue is that portupgrade is not a core part of the freebsd ports. It is itself a port, an addon that adds in it own set of complexities -- see it's man page. It's a wonderful utility but not perfect. When I run into issues using portupgrade, I find it easiest to fix what failed using standard port tools, not an addon, then resume the portupgrade after I fixed errors manually. Generally the process is relatively quick, but on something big like kde4 it can take quite awhile. As for specific events, you can post the errors and someone should be able help like before. Another rule of thumb I use is that I don't use portupgrade -a on system with a massive graphical enviro installedtoo many areas to fail. So
Re: portupdate xorg-server
Well Frank, if/when you read my most recent comment, you'll notice that I've probably confused ports and packages again. As has been the case for the past week or so, thanks for taking the time. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:14:32AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 03:21:05PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: The last couple of days I've been running portupgrade -av and am to the point where I'd like to move onto something else, but there is one package that won't upgrade . . . xorg-server. As you can see below, it claims that there is a missing header and there are a fair amount of reported errors. I'm not the best at deciphering the stuff below. I've tried make deinstalling/reinstalling and individually portupgrading it to no avail. suggestions? glxdriswrast.c:39:39: error: GL/internal/dri_interface.h: No such file or directory $ pkg_info -W /usr/local/include/GL/internal/dri_interface.h /usr/local/include/GL/internal/dri_interface.h was installed by package xf86driproto-2.0.3 I wish to not only that Frank for his patience and subtle hand-holding, but also address the rest of the list. Thanks a lot *takes bow* ;) First, concerning the issue Mr. Shute responded to . . . I reinstalled xf86driproto, which installed the dri_interface.h, which allowed me to pkg_add xorg-server. However, it was the older version of xorg-server. So, I ran portupgrade on it and it, again, claims that there is no dri_interface.h. According to pkg_version, all xorg and xf86 ports are up-to-date, except xorg-server of which there is a newer version. What I wouldn't do is mix and match packages with ports. The xorg-server package is likely to have been built against older ports. IMO, it's always best to stick with ports. So: # pkg_deinstall -f xorg-server # portupgrade -Nv xorg-server should fix things for you and bring your xorg-server uptodate. That said, I was hoping that you can help me understand the portupgrade process b/c it can be a bit frustrating when it runs for a LONG time only to have upgrades fail. Please don't take my tone to be anything other than one coming from a sense of curiosity. I don't mean to suggest anything about the fBSD ports system. Perhaps my experience is the result of my own oversight. Just to be clear, here are the steps I took: 1) #portsnap fetch 2) #portsnap extract 3) #portsnap update 4) #pkgdb -u 5) #pkgdb -F 6) #portupgrade -av That looks OK to me (I don't use portsnap, mind you). As I noted in another post, some ports fail to upgrade when using portupgrade -a, no matter how many times it is run. However, they (those that fail), along with their dependencies, do upgrade when portupgraded individually (or de/reinstalled). I thought the purpose of having a ports system, where you install the ports tree and use portupgrade, was to make the install/upgrade easy and rather painless, such that all ports and their dependencies are taken care of. If you do: $ pkg_info | wc -l you'll see that you've got a lot of ports and portupgrade does a pretty good job of upgrading the vast majority of them without any hand holding. Keeping application software uptodate on any platform is problematic and there are inevitably some bits that you have to troubleshoot. As I write this I am running portupgrade individually, on those ports that failed to upgrade with -a option, but have (so far) succeeded in upgrading individually. I am simply looking at the output of pkg_version to find those that are not up-to-date. Use portversion (it's quicker): $ portversion | grep I could see if ports failed to upgrade or were ignored due to there being no diff between what's installed and that which is in the updated tree. Can someone shed some light on this? Thanks a lot for taking the time. -Neal Neal, you're doing OK! You just mixed up packages and ports. Whilst theoretically possible, in practice it results in problems - certainly with portupgrade. portupgrade is a good tool and if you stick to it with just ports you wont go far wrong. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Portsnap vs CSup
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Kalle Møller freebsd-questi...@k-moeller.dk wrote: Hi I've been digging around, but I can't find a clear answer, which of those two is the correct to use. Hence I don't use one now, so if I'm going to learn one, I would prefer it to be the right one. -- /km I don't think its a matter of right/wrong or good/bad. I recently used portsnap and it did a fine (dare I say 'snappy') job. Also, there's not much to learn with regard to portsnap. I can't talk about CVSup, although it doesn't look too complicated. So, if you find in unappealing, you could easily try CVSup without have wasted much time with portsnap. -Neal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portupdate xorg-server
The last couple of days I've been running portupgrade -av and am to the point where I'd like to move onto something else, but there is one package that won't upgrade . . . xorg-server. As you can see below, it claims that there is a missing header and there are a fair amount of reported errors. I'm not the best at deciphering the stuff below. I've tried make deinstalling/reinstalling and individually portupgrading it to no avail. suggestions? glxdriswrast.c:39:39: error: GL/internal/dri_interface.h: No such file or directory In file included from glxdriswrast.c:49: glxdricommon.h:32: error: expected ':', ',', ';', '}' or '__attribute__' before '*' token glxdricommon.h:36: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__DRIcoreExtension' glxdricommon.h:36: error: expected ';', ',' or ')' before '*' token glxdricommon.h:38: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'systemTimeExtension' glxdriswrast.c:64: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before '__DRIscreen' glxdriswrast.c:75: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before '__DRIcontext' glxdriswrast.c:80: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before '__DRIdrawable' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIdrawableDestroy': glxdriswrast.c:92: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token glxdriswrast.c:92: error: 'core' undeclared (first use in this function) glxdriswrast.c:92: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once glxdriswrast.c:92: error: for each function it appears in.) glxdriswrast.c:92: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'screen' glxdriswrast.c:94: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'driDrawable' glxdriswrast.c:96: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'gc' glxdriswrast.c:97: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'cleargc' glxdriswrast.c:98: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'swapgc' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIdrawableSwapBuffers': glxdriswrast.c:116: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token glxdriswrast.c:116: error: 'core' undeclared (first use in this function) glxdriswrast.c:116: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'screen' glxdriswrast.c:118: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'driDrawable' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIdrawableCopySubBuffer': glxdriswrast.c:128: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token glxdriswrast.c:128: error: 'copySubBuffer' undeclared (first use in this function) glxdriswrast.c:129: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'screen' glxdriswrast.c:132: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'driDrawable' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIcontextDestroy': glxdriswrast.c:141: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'core' glxdriswrast.c:141: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIcontextMakeCurrent': glxdriswrast.c:154: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'core' glxdriswrast.c:154: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext' glxdriswrast.c:155: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'driDrawable' glxdriswrast.c:156: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'driDrawable' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIcontextLoseCurrent': glxdriswrast.c:165: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'core' glxdriswrast.c:165: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIcontextCopy': glxdriswrast.c:176: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'core' glxdriswrast.c:176: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext' glxdriswrast.c:177: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIcontextForceCurrent': glxdriswrast.c:188: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'core' glxdriswrast.c:188: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext' glxdriswrast.c:189: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'driDrawable' glxdriswrast.c:190: error: '__GLXDRIdrawable' has no member named 'driDrawable' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIscreenDestroy': glxdriswrast.c:253: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'core' glxdriswrast.c:253: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'driScreen' glxdriswrast.c:255: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'driver' glxdriswrast.c: In function '__glXDRIscreenCreateContext': glxdriswrast.c:270: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token glxdriswrast.c:270: error: 'core' undeclared (first use in this function) glxdriswrast.c:270: error: '__GLXDRIscreen' has no member named 'core' glxdriswrast.c:271: error: '__DRIcontext' undeclared (first use in this function) glxdriswrast.c:271: error: 'driShare' undeclared (first use in this function) glxdriswrast.c:275: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext' glxdriswrast.c:291: error: '__GLXDRIcontext' has no member named 'driContext'
portupgrade question (failed updates)
What do we do about packages that fail to update? This is my first time running portupgrade, and am unsure what to think about the ones where there is a configure error or uknown build error or install error FYI -- I followed the following steps: 1) upgraded from 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE 2) updated /usr/ports: #portsnap fetch/extract/update 3) udated db: #pkgdb -u 4) fixed db: #pkgdb -F 5) updated installed packages: #portupgrade -av At the end of the week-long process I have 6 failed attempts: linux-atk-1.9.1 (install error) linux-pango-1.10.2 (install error) intltool-0.37.1 (unknown build error) xkeyboard-config-1.3 (configure error) shared-mime-info-0.51 (configure error) policykit-0.9_1 (configure error) My system seems to run just fine. So, should I be worried? Thanks! -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: where is xorg located?
The X system is an installation set . . . not a 3rd party package. Check installation documentation. On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote: hi hi all, i try to install xorg as a package like: # pkg_add -r xorg it takes a while, but only an error appears to me, it says that Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/xorg.tbz : File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch ' ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/xorg.tbz ' by URL internet connection works, of course, I ftp to ftp server and there really isnt xorg package at all. where i should install xorg package from? thx stewe FreeBSD dexter 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #1: Fri Mar 13 16:28:53 CET 2009 r...@dexter:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEXTER i386 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: / partition full
just to clarify (it's early) man du(1) On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Warren Liddell shin...@maydias.com wrote: I've looked as much as i can, but with only 5meg free on / .. its making things in terms of building world kernel a lil difficult .. what's the command so i can see exactly what dir on / is using up all the space so i can free it up ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
gnash and ff3
Hi, I have 7-1 RELEASE running with up-to-date packages, including firefox3. I also have gnash-0.8.3 and mozplugger-1.10.2. I'm confused as to why gnash and mozplugger are not automatically enabled and/or used by ff3. That is, ff claims not to have any plug-ins. I have the same set-up on an oBSD machine and didn't have to do anything special to get them working together (that I can remember). Can someone help jog my memory or point me to something useful? Thanks. -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reclaiming /var capacity?
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:30 PM, j. 2fo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did my capacity go and how can I get it back? deathray# du -sh /var 70M/var deathray# df -h /var FilesystemSizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0d 248M214M 15M94%/var Thanks, Are your log (/var/log) being flushed or overly produced? --j. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /var grows, apache open file, which file?
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD free...@superhero.nl wrote: On Fri, February 6, 2009 20:05, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Feb 06), Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD said: I noticed that my var slice is getting eaten by apache. The amount of free space is getting less and less per day. So I started to investigate. I did the following; # fstat -u www | grep var | more www httpd 970429 /var 74653 -rw--- 176907484 w www httpd 97042 12 /var 71575 -rw--- 1345623 w www httpd 97042 13 /var 24693 -rw-r--r-- 0 w www httpd 97042 15 /var 70919 -rw--- 0 w www httpd 97042 16 /var 70919 -rw--- 0 w www httpd 260599 /var 74653 -rw--- 176907484 w www httpd 26059 12 /var 71575 -rw--- 1345623 w So I have an Inumber, lets search for that. # find / -inum 74653 /usr/ports/net/pptpclient/files This confuses me! That is on a different slice. Then that is not the inode you are looking for. Use find -x /var ... to doesnt return anything. limit the search to just the /var mountpoint. Your problem is probably due to a bad logfile rotator that isn't signalling apache to closereopen the logs, so it keeps logging to a file you have deleted. If you're using newsyslog, make sure you have listed your apache pidfile on the line correspoinding to any apache logs so it knows which process to signal. See the newsyslog.conf manpage for more details. Added /var/run/httpd.pid to newsyslog.conf and restarted apache. I am also using cronolog. from httpd.conf: CustomLog | /usr/local/sbin/cronolog /var/log/apache2/%Y/%m/%d/access.log combined Thanks Patrick -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Just a thought . . . perhaps your situation is similar. I had an issue recently, where /var was maxing out quickly, even after empty all of the logs. It ended up that I was logging too much prior to log rotation. I had recently set-up an ftp server and the rsync of the binary I was mirrorring slammed /var. So, I limited what my firewall logged. Instead of *log all* I would just *log*. -- www.nealhogan.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
