Re: write failed filesystem full on fresh install of 5.4
On Saturday 14 May 2005 23:30, Ross Adams Lippert wrote: I'm sorry I was not more specific. /var has 256MB /tmp has 256 / has 256 /usr has 4500MB newfs had been run on everything. ftp was passive. Since base is about 46MB of material, it seems it could put it anywhere. This occurs 3% of the way into the extration of base into / via ftp. I did burn a CD and install off of that in the end and the problem went away. -r On Saturday, 14 May 2005 at 16:19:27 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: It was extracting the distribution into / over ftp and said /: write failed, filesystem is full this was after doing a newfs on /. Has anyone run into this problem? it's not a problem of your fs layout. i ran into the same problem during 5.4/i386/ftp installation. i can't recall the specific circumstances (probably i did something wrong), but during the next attempt (after rebooting) it didn't reappear. You are going to have to give more information. What do your file systems look like? Sure I have had that happen when what I was ftp-ing was too big to fit where I was trying to put it. Then I had to either find or make a bigger space or change my mind about what I wantd to move there. Maybe yo udidn't make / big enough or made only a / big enough for stuff that will be in root, but didn't make a separate /usr and /var, etc for things what will go in them. I am not subscribed. If I should be tell me. If not, put me in the cc-line. It would be good if you could subscribe. You may need to follow some of these threads. jerry -r ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating newly installed FreeBSD-5.2.1
On Sunday 04 July 2004 14:26, Stacey Roberts wrote: Hello, Forgive the simple question here, please. I've just installed FreeBSD-5.2.1 from BSDMall's CD-Set, and I wanted to do what I'd usually do with a new installation of FreeBSD-4.x, which is to update it to the latest stable of that version. Now I know that there is no Stable version of 5.x as yet, but I wondered what it is that the supfiles located at /usr/share/examples/cvsup should be for what I want to do. The standard-supfile that is currently on my 5.2.1 install has : *default release=cvs tag=. Isn't that going to get me CURRENT? I had a look for what I would have thought should be branch information for RELENG_5_2_1, but couldn't actually find anything. What should I use? just use *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2 regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating newly installed FreeBSD-5.2.1
On Sunday 04 July 2004 14:53, Stacey Roberts wrote: Hello Louis, Thanks for the response. - Original Message - From: Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: To [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 04 Jul, 2004 13:40 BST Subject: Re: Updating newly installed FreeBSD-5.2.1 On 07/04/04 01:26 PM, Stacey Roberts sat at the `puter and typed: Hello, Forgive the simple question here, please. I've just installed FreeBSD-5.2.1 from BSDMall's CD-Set, and I wanted to do what I'd usually do with a new installation of FreeBSD-4.x, which is to update it to the latest stable of that version. Now I know that there is no Stable version of 5.x as yet, but I wondered what it is that the supfiles located at /usr/share/examples/cvsup should be for what I want to do. The standard-supfile that is currently on my 5.2.1 install has : *default release=cvs tag=. Isn't that going to get me CURRENT? I had a look for what I would have thought should be branch information for RELENG_5_2_1, but couldn't actually find anything. What should I use? I believe the tag you're looking for is RELENG_5_2, but you might want to check here first: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags. html Thanks for that link.., I missed that. So should I change the *standard-supfile* to read: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2 Or, should I make the amendments to *stable-supfile*? Or does it not matter in this case? it doesn't matter. however, it might not be the best idea to edit/use one of the sample supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ directly, since these files get overridden every time you install world. just copy one of them to a 'safe' location, apply your changes and (if you want to use 'make update' in /usr/src) adjust /etc/make.conf have fun Thanks again for taking the time to respond. Regards, Stacey HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Cheops' Law: Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: voodoo 2
On Saturday 26 June 2004 20:34, arden wrote: hi all I've been trying to re-use some old pcs i have kicking around i really amazed at how much you can do with a k6/2 400 if you tweak it right one of these pcs has an 16 meg voodoo 2 card is it possible to use the 3d functions of this card in bsd ? been looking around without much luck arden hi arden, looks like there's no dri support for voodoo2 see http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/3dfx don't know if it's possible to get glide2 working.. years ago i used a voodoo3 card + linux-2.2.x + XFree-3.x + glide2 to play terminus best regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mc and kde 3.2
On Monday 28 June 2004 02:55, Javier Ramirez wrote: Hi I have a question, why freebsd 5.2.1 don't have mc ? and how adapt kde 3.2 to my freebsd 5.2.1 ? regards Javier Ramirez hi Javier, mc and kde3 are in the ports collection. see chapter 4 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html) for help on how to install applications and section 5.7.2 about kde (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html). best regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make depend error
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 04:39, john huss wrote: Hello, Can any of you kind teeps help me out please? I'm trying to compile my FreeBSD 4.9 kernel for the first time and am having problems. I am recompiling for several reasons; to learn about compiling the kernel; to get sound support for my isa soundcard and (finally); to compile in some firewall options mentioned in the handbook. hi john, I just don't know what the reasons for your problem might be, but would like to give some hints anyway. (1) There's no need to compile sound support and firewall options statically into the kernel. Of course you can do so, but you can use modules for this purpose too. It's your choice. (2) You can safely comment out support for hardware you don't have on your system. (3) It's quite some time ago that 4.9 came out and several security related bugs have been discovered and fixed since then. That's why you should update your sources using cvsup(1) and rebuild the entire base system, not only the kernel. After having updated the sources - cd /usr/src - read UPDATING and README - cp sys/i386/conf/GENERIC sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM_KERNEL - edit your custom kernel configuration - make buildworld - make buildkernel - make installkernel - reboot to single user mode, fsck and mount the file systems - mergemaster -p - cd /usr/src - make installworld - mergemaster these steps will leave you with an up to date system using the GENERIC kernel. To create and install a custom kernel just repeat the make build/install kernel steps in /usr/src but add KERNCONF=CUSTOM_KERNEL. reboot and enjoy ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
silky doesn't start -- mime.types missing
Hello. Just built/installed silky-0.5.1 on my FreeBSD 5.2.1 box - without any problems. But to run it, I apparently need a mime.types file which is currently missing. - How can I get it? Thanks a lot in advance -- silky -d main.c:442, main(): Debug turned on support.c:1465, silky_create_silkydir(): Directory '/home/liza/.silky/' does not exist, trying to create it support.c:1485, silky_create_silkydir(): '/home/liza/.silky/' created support.c:1499, silky_create_serverkeydir(): trying to create '/home/liza/.silky/serverkeys' support.c:1519, silky_create_serverkeydir(): '/home/liza/.silky/serverkeys' created support.c:1402, silky_read_mimetable(): trying 0: '/home/liza/.mime.types' support.c:1126, mime_init(): mime_init() support.c:1130, mime_init(): file open failed for '/home/liza/.mime.types' support.c:1402, silky_read_mimetable(): trying 1: '/etc/mime.types' support.c:1126, mime_init(): mime_init() support.c:1130, mime_init(): file open failed for '/etc/mime.types' support.c:1402, silky_read_mimetable(): trying 2: '/usr/pkg/etc/mime.types' support.c:1126, mime_init(): mime_init() support.c:1130, mime_init(): file open failed for '/usr/pkg/etc/mime.types' support.c:1402, silky_read_mimetable(): trying 3: '/usr/lib/mime.types' support.c:1126, mime_init(): mime_init() support.c:1130, mime_init(): file open failed for '/usr/lib/mime.types' support.c:1402, silky_read_mimetable(): trying 4: '/usr/local/etc/mime.types' support.c:1126, mime_init(): mime_init() support.c:1130, mime_init(): file open failed for '/usr/local/etc/mime.types' support.c:1402, silky_read_mimetable(): trying 5: 'mime.types' support.c:1126, mime_init(): mime_init() support.c:1130, mime_init(): file open failed for 'mime.types' support.c:1411, silky_read_mimetable(): mime.types not found at all ** ERROR **: Can not find mime.types file. Can not continue. aborting... Abort (core dumped) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [solved] silky doesn't start -- mime.types missing
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Re: FreeBSD
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 17:24, Fox wrote: ! . FreeBSD 5.2, . FreeBSD 5.2. ! My Russian is quite poor, but if I did understand you correctly, you are looking for help with the installation of FreeBSD. There is a Russian version of the FreeBSD handbook available online at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/ Hope that helps. have fun! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: home on a gbde encrypted partion
On Sunday 23 May 2004 01:56, Robert Storey wrote: On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:54:29 +0200 platanthera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 21 May 2004 17:49, platanthera wrote: hi all, I want to move my home directory to a gbde encrypted partition. I plan to have only the default dotfiles in /home/xxx (before mounting the encrypted partition), log in as usual, attach and fsck the encrypted partion and then mount it 'over' /home/xxx. Is there anything wrong with this approach? hmm... obviously there is something wrong. I can't unmount my current home directory later. Not really surprising.. Interesting question. File /etc/passwd is where the system determines where a user's data files will be located. For example, user robert on my system: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /etc/passwd | grep robert robert:*:1005:1006:User :/home/robert:/usr/local/bin/bash So just create a special user (using sysinstall), perhaps user secure. Instead of putting his login directory at /home/secure, put it on /secure (a directory you manually create) and (as root) mount /secure on an encrypted partition. After /secure is mounted, login as user secure. You'll have to tweak permissions of course so that user secure can read/write files on this partition. hi Robert, thanks for your reply. In the meantime I decided to move /home completely to an encrypted partition, which I attach and mount as root before logging in under my user account. Think that's the easiest approach.. best regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: home on a gbde encrypted partion
On Friday 21 May 2004 17:49, platanthera wrote: hi all, I want to move my home directory to a gbde encrypted partition. I plan to have only the default dotfiles in /home/xxx (before mounting the encrypted partition), log in as usual, attach and fsck the encrypted partion and then mount it 'over' /home/xxx. Is there anything wrong with this approach? hmm... obviously there is something wrong. I can't unmount my current home directory later. Not really surprising.. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
home on a gbde encrypted partion
hi all, I want to move my home directory to a gbde encrypted partition. I plan to have only the default dotfiles in /home/xxx (before mounting the encrypted partition), log in as usual, attach and fsck the encrypted partion and then mount it 'over' /home/xxx. Is there anything wrong with this approach? Or is there a more elegant way? thanks in advance ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron can't find root or operator
On Thursday 20 May 2004 17:47, Bill Moran wrote: carvin5string wrote: I have a new server set up and running and am getting a slew of messages from cron, like this - Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] root /usr/libexec/atrun Body: root: not found and Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] operator /usr/libexec/save-entropy operator: not found What's going on with cron? You've got a user's crontab created in the format of the system crontab. The system crontab has an extra field to designate the user under which the job should run. When this field is entered in a user's crontab, cron interprets it as the command to be run and the errors you describe generally result. Keep in mind that the user root has a user crontab that is different from the system crontab. If you're still fuzzy as to what went wrong, reading the man pages for crontab (in addition to my explanation) should help. additionally you might want to have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#ROOT-NOT-FOUND-CRON-ERRORS good luck. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Correct steps to recompile kernel
On Thursday 20 May 2004 18:39, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Bill, Tks for your advice. - snip - # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # cp GENERIC GENERIC.bak # cp GENERIC MYKERNEL # ee MYKERNEL (modifying the kernel) This is good ... although making a backup of GENERIC is somewhat redundant. Noted with thanks. But in case of trouble where can I get the old kernel back. When you install a new kernel the old one is backed up under /boot/kernel.old/ If you can't boot your new kernel, just press '6' in the boot loader menu to escape to the loader prompt, and then type unload load /boot/kernel.old/kernel boot regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron can't find root or operator
On Thursday 20 May 2004 22:57, carvin5string wrote: --- Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got a user's crontab created in the format of the system crontab. The system crontab has an extra field to designate the user under which the job should run. When this field is entered in a user's crontab, cron interprets it as the command to be run and the errors you describe generally result. Keep in mind that the user root has a user crontab that is different from the system crontab. If you're still fuzzy as to what went wrong, reading the man pages for crontab (in addition to my explanation) should help. good luck. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com Bill, I see in the Handbook in section 6.6.1 that I should run crontab crontab to create a new crontab, which I did, in the /etc directory, as root. Thats's most likely the problem. Do NOT run crontab /etc/crontab Read the FAQ!!! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is There Any Professional To Help Me!
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 12:37, mehrdad nosrati wrote: Dear All, I've a FreeBSD 3.4 Release.My cronttab file is like: # /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/crontab,v 1.18.2.2 1999/08/29 14:18:39 peter Exp $ # SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin HOME=/var/log # #minute hourmdaymonth wdaywho command # */5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun # # rotate log files every hour, if necessary 0 * * * * rootnewsyslog # # do daily/weekly/monthly maintenance 59 1 * * * root periodic daily 21 | sendmail root 30 3 * * 6 root periodic weekly 21 | sendmail root 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly 21 | sendmail root # # time zone change adjustment for wall cmos clock, # does nothing, if you have UTC cmos clock. # See adjkerntz(8) for details. 1,310-5 * * * root adjkerntz -a but every 5 minute I receive a mail from cron daemon in which it says: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] root /usr/libexec/atrun root:not found if you see man atrun(8) then you can see the line similar to that on mine,I mean: */5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun I highly appreciate to whom have a good idea for this problem. Did you try to update your /etc/crontab using crontab(1)? If you did so, have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#ROOT-NOT-FOUND-CRON-ERRORS hope that helps ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls(1) crashes
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 14:26, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:25:09AM +0200, platanthera wrote:
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 00:05, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (May 18), platanthera said:
ls(1) crashed (exited on signal 10) for the second time within
a few days today. Could you please have a look at the core file
and tell me what's going on? Or even better yet - point me to a
beginners guide on how to interpret core files
Signal 10 is a Bus Error and is usually due to bad memory or
improper overclocking.
I've checked the memory using memtest86, and _not_ overclocked the
cpu.
That's the right thing to do in the first instance, but getting an
all clear from memtest86 doesn't guarantee you are 100% clear of
problems. (In technical terms, memtest86 doesn't produce false
positives (saying there's an error when there isn't one) but it does
have a low rate of false negatives (saying there's no error when
there is one))
However, I'd start to look at other aspects of the system now -- the
first thing to eliminate would be hard drive problems. Can you
reboot the system into single user mode, and run fsck(8) on all the
partitions? That's
# fsck -f
(Nb. only the root fs should be mounted, and that should be mounted
read-only while you're doing that. Not coincidentally, that's the
state booting into single user mode provides).
If there are any errors reported by fsck(8), and especially if
repeated fsck'ing doesn't clear them then your hard drive is probably
about to give up the ghost.
fsck -f didn't report any errors. Additionally I've checked my disks
using the scsi controlers verify disk utility. Seems they're OK.
Other causes of the problem could be overheating -- not necessarily
of the main CPU (as that just results in the screen going black, and
whole system rebooting itself after a while) but of some of the
bridge chipsets on the motherboard. Sometimes those chips will have
a fan assisted heatsink but that's not very common. If they do,
verify that the fan is working properly, and in any case, verify that
the main case and power supply fans are working correctly, vents are
not obstructed (either by stuff around your machine, or by dust on
the inside) and that internal ribbon cables and so forth aren't
preventing the free movement of air around the inside of the case.
I don't think it's a heat problem since there are no problems compiling
large ports which means _many_ hours of 100% cpu load on my a bit
elderly system.
Just an idea - some time ago I exchanged my aha19160 scsi controller for
a Tekram DC-390U2 (I wanted to play with Linux which didn't work with
the Adaptec card). Although the DC-390U2 seems to work fine, might it
eventually be that this is the reason for my recent problems?
Even if you can't nail down exactly what the problem is, you might
want to consider doing a cvsup + {build,install}{world,kernel} cycle.
It will either make any deficiencies in your hardware glaringly
obvious, or could very well make your trouble go away.
I've already tried this to overcome Signal 10 errors with cfs-1.4.1_1 -
without any success, only downgrading to 1.4.1 helped in that case.
Cheers,
Matthew
thanks a lot for your hints
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Re: Help with editing partition tables
On Monday 17 May 2004 06:17, Phil Thomson wrote: Hi all, I am a relative newbie to UNIX, going from being an ex-Windows user to being an X Windows user! ;-) I recently got FreeBSD installed on an older PC with a 3 GB drive and a 5 GB drive (which has not yet been mounted). The system is installed on the 3 GB drive, but my current partition table is inadequate to my needs. Here is the output of df -H: /dev/ad0s1a 260M 254M -15.3M 106%/ devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1f 3.4G 1.6G 1.6G51%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 260M14M 225M 6%/var hi Phil, you could (and definitely should) have a separate slice for /tmp and eventually another one for /home too. If you decide to reinstall (which is the easiest approach if there's 'not much too lose yet' on your system) just hit 'a' in the disklabel editor of sysinstall(8). This will create separate slices for /, swap, /var, /tmp and /usr, and will result in a reasonable disk layout for a desktop system. If you do not want to reinstall and have free space left on your other hard disk, you can create a bsd partition there and one or more slices inside this partition (250M should be enough for /tmp under 'normal' circumstances). Then you can mount the new file systems under arbitrary mount points, move the content of /tmp (and eventually /usr/home) over and adjust /etc/fstab. Feel free to check back with the list if you want to go this way and need more detailed advice. have fun! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with editing partition tables
On Monday 17 May 2004 14:41, Ruben de Groot wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:21:44PM +0200, platanthera typed: On Monday 17 May 2004 06:17, Phil Thomson wrote: Hi all, I am a relative newbie to UNIX, going from being an ex-Windows user to being an X Windows user! ;-) I recently got FreeBSD installed on an older PC with a 3 GB drive and a 5 GB drive (which has not yet been mounted). The system is installed on the 3 GB drive, but my current partition table is inadequate to my needs. Here is the output of df -H: /dev/ad0s1a 260M 254M -15.3M 106%/ devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1f 3.4G 1.6G 1.6G51%/usr /dev/ad0s1e 260M14M 225M 6%/var hi Phil, you could (and definitely should) have a separate slice for /tmp and eventually another one for /home too. If you decide to reinstall (which is the easiest approach if there's 'not much too lose yet' on your system) just hit 'a' in the disklabel editor of sysinstall(8). This will create separate slices for /, swap, /var, /tmp and /usr, and will result in a reasonable disk layout for a desktop system. If you do not want to reinstall and have free space left on your other hard disk, you can create a bsd partition there and one or more slices inside this partition (250M should be enough for /tmp under 'normal' circumstances). Then you can mount the new file systems under arbitrary mount points, move the content of /tmp (and eventually /usr/home) over and adjust /etc/fstab. Feel free to check back with the list if you want to go this way and need more detailed advice. When you say partition, you really mean slice and vice-versa. Ruben oops.. thanks for the correction. maybe I should stop flirting with Linux .-) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with editing partition tables
On Monday 17 May 2004 17:07, Robert Huff wrote: platanthera writes: you could (and definitely should) have a separate slice for /tmp and eventually another one for /home too. May I ask your logic here? Is this about safety, convenience, overcrowding? You noticed that I accidently mixed up slices with partitions, didn't you? Separating /usr, /tmp and /var from the / filesystem (a) reduces write access to the / fs significantly, thus increasing your chances to get away without serious trouble in cases of enforced hard reboot (power failure etc.) and (b) allows you to take advantage of soft updates for the non-/ fs' which results in better fs performance (which is probably not very important for /tmp). Whether you create a separate /home partition or not on a single user machine is more or less a matter of your individual preferences. regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ls(1) crashes
hi. ls(1) crashed (exited on signal 10) for the second time within a few days today. Could you please have a look at the core file and tell me what's going on? Or even better yet - point me to a beginners guide on how to interpret core files thanks a lot ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls(1) crashes
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 00:05, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (May 18), platanthera said: ls(1) crashed (exited on signal 10) for the second time within a few days today. Could you please have a look at the core file and tell me what's going on? Or even better yet - point me to a beginners guide on how to interpret core files Signal 10 is a Bus Error and is usually due to bad memory or improper overclocking. I've checked the memory using memtest86, and _not_ overclocked the cpu. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where has /etc/defaults/make.conf gone? [was: COPTFLAGS...]
On Saturday 15 May 2004 03:31, Chuck Swiger wrote: platanthera wrote: On Friday 14 May 2004 00:03, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: [ ... ] Yes, you do. But I'm sure that you will find the make.conf(5) manpage very informative and useful. not really. it says ... The /etc/make.conf file is included from the appropriate Makefile which specifies the default settings for all the available options. Options need only be specified in /etc/make.conf when the system administrator wishes to override these defaults. ... The manpage is correct. /etc/make.conf behaves much the same way as /etc/rc.conf and other config files with regard to default values. Take a look in /etc/defaults/make.conf, /etc/defaults/rc.conf, etc. OK, in case of rc.conf the situation is pretty clear - the general system defaults are defined in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and if you want to change something you edit /etc/rc.conf whose settings override those of /etc/defaults/rc.conf. But what about make.conf? There is no /etc/defaults/make.conf on my sytem (5.2_RELENG), and looking at /usr/src/etc/defaults/ after running cvsup it seems that's correct. I didn't notice when /etc/defaults/make.conf disappeared (during 4.x -- 5.x transition?), but the really important question is: Where are the general system defaults defined now? [...] Please tell us which port was listing the -O2? Ports which disregard CFLAGS are considered BROKEN and ought to be fixed... koffice in this case (but I think all the other kde stuff and other ports too) have their own CFLAGS defaults, which get overridden by the system defaults specified in /etc/make.conf or whereever. Think that's OK. regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display installed port dependencies
On Saturday 15 May 2004 03:44, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, Is there a simple way to display a list of all installed packages that depend on another given installed package? pkg_info -R foo will list all currently installed packages that depend on foo regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems running startx on FreeBSD 5.2.1
On Friday 14 May 2004 07:18, Sanjay Chadda wrote: Folks, I have a Dell 2400 series desktop with Pentium4 processeor. I am not sure what graphics card I have. I looked at the Dell site and it seems these models have the integrated chipset 82845G on them. So while configuring Xserver, I gave this info for this chipset. I have FreeBSD 5.2.1 installed. When I run startx, I get following errors: VGA(0) : Virtual Length (0) is too small fo rhardware (min 1) Screen(s) found, but none have usable config Has anyone come across this error? If you know how to get rid of this error, pls let me know. Maybe I missied something while configuring X server. Any help will be greatly appreciated!! Sanjay it could be useful if you provided a bit more info about your system(configuration), in particular - the output of dmesg - your XF86Config - and the XFree86 logfile regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COPTFLAGS (not?) only for compiling the kernel?
On Friday 14 May 2004 00:03, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2004-05-13 23:29, platanthera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [/etc/make.conf] ... # To compile just the kernel with special optimizations, you should use # this instead of CFLAGS (which is not applicable to kernel builds anyway). # There is very little to gain by using higher optimization levels, and doing # so can cause problems. # COPTFLAGS= [whatever] ... just the kernel... sounds like COPTFLAGS setting should not effect world or port builds, but apparently it does. Or do I misunderstand something? Yes, you do. But I'm sure that you will find the make.conf(5) manpage very informative and useful. not really. it says ... The /etc/make.conf file is included from the appropriate Makefile which specifies the default settings for all the available options. Options need only be specified in /etc/make.conf when the system administrator wishes to override these defaults. ... and in (/usr/share/examples)/etc/make.conf you can find .. # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code ... #CFLAGS= -O -pipe ... # To compile just the kernel with special optimizations, you should use # this instead of CFLAGS (which is not applicable to kernel builds anyway). ... #COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe ... to my understanding this explains what CFLAGS/COPTFLAGS are intended for and _implies_ you'd have to uncomment the flag definitions in /etc/make.conf to set them active, otherwise the settings specified in the respective Makefile would be used. I had explicitly specified COPTFLAGS (-O -pipe) but not CFLAGS and saw -O overriding -O2 when compiling a port... quite confusing that uncommenting the example settings in make.conf changes exactly nothing, since these are the (undocumented?) system defaults anyway. probably a doc issue? - or just my stupidity .-) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating periodic cron jobs
On Thursday 13 May 2004 17:51, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: I am trying to create a quarter-daily cron job on my FreeBSD 5.2.1 as follows in /etc/crontab: 05 0,6,12,18 * * * root periodic quarter-daily I created the /etc/periodic/quarter-daily directory and placed my script there. After I ran 'crontab -u root /etc/crontab', have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#ROOT-NOT-FOUND-CRON-ERRORS now I am getting these mail messages below, it seems I have created, for example, cron jobs as 'root /usr/libexec/atrun' in addition to the usual '/usr/libexec/atrun'. It has done this for daily, weekly, etc. as well. Can someone tell me what I did wrong? Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from esmtp.webtent.net ([unix socket]) by esmtp.webtent.net (Cyrus v2.1.16) with LMTP; Thu, 13 May 2004 11:45:01 -0400 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) by esmtp.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 2734CEBD26 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 May 2004 11:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (esmtp.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22701-08 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 13 May 2004 11:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by esmtp.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway, from userid 0) id 053C8EBD24; Thu, 13 May 2004 11:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] root /usr/libexec/atrun X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin X-Cron-Env: HOME=/root X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root X-Cron-Env: USER=root Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:45:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by the WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway X-Evolution-Source: imap://admin;[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Mime-Version: 1.0 root: not found ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
COPTFLAGS (not?) only for compiling the kernel?
[/etc/make.conf] ... # To compile just the kernel with special optimizations, you should use # this instead of CFLAGS (which is not applicable to kernel builds anyway). # There is very little to gain by using higher optimization levels, and doing # so can cause problems. # COPTFLAGS= [whatever] ... just the kernel... sounds like COPTFLAGS setting should not effect world or port builds, but apparently it does. Or do I misunderstand something? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Do not know how to build a device In Freebsd 5.2.1
On Thursday 13 May 2004 22:28, Abbas Karbassian wrote: Dear All; I have managed to install FreeBsd5.2.1. I have a TV card which is working under FreeBsd 4X without any problem. I tried to build the bktr device under FreeBsd5.2.1, and when I used MAKEDEV bktr, I go the message displayed on the screen, saying MAKEDEV is no longer vaild in 5.2.1, could you be kind enough to tell me how to build the bktr and sound device under FreeBsd5.2.1. I've never used a TV card, but I think http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#WHERE-IS-MAKEDEV and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/tvcard.html provide the infos you're looking for. hth Kind Regards Abbas P.S Since I am not part of the above mailing list could you be kind enough to send your replies to my Email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COPTFLAGS (not?) only for compiling the kernel?
On Friday 14 May 2004 00:48, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 11:29:07PM +0200, platanthera wrote: [/etc/make.conf] ... # To compile just the kernel with special optimizations, you should use # this instead of CFLAGS (which is not applicable to kernel builds anyway). # There is very little to gain by using higher optimization levels, and doing # so can cause problems. # COPTFLAGS= [whatever] ... just the kernel... sounds like COPTFLAGS setting should not effect world or port builds, but apparently it does. It shouldn't, CFLAGS is used for that. Kris I'm just compiling koffice and it looks like COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe overrides the koffice defaults (no CFLAGS defined in make.conf). ... if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --mode=compile --tag=CXX c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I. -I../../../lib/kofficeui -I../../../lib/kofficeui -I../../../lib/kofficecore -I../../../lib/kofficecore -I../../../lib/store -I../../../lib/store -I../../../lib/kwmf -I../../../lib/kwmf -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -DSRCDIR=\/share/FreeBSD/ports/editors/koffice-kde3/work/koffice-1.3.1/filters/xsltfilter/export\ -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_THREAD_SAFE -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O -pipe -march=k6-3 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -MT xsltexport.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/xsltexport.Tpo \ ... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COPTFLAGS (not?) only for compiling the kernel?
On Friday 14 May 2004 01:09, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 01:12:41AM +0200, platanthera wrote: On Friday 14 May 2004 00:48, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 11:29:07PM +0200, platanthera wrote: [/etc/make.conf] ... # To compile just the kernel with special optimizations, you should use # this instead of CFLAGS (which is not applicable to kernel builds anyway). # There is very little to gain by using higher optimization levels, and doing # so can cause problems. # COPTFLAGS= [whatever] ... just the kernel... sounds like COPTFLAGS setting should not effect world or port builds, but apparently it does. It shouldn't, CFLAGS is used for that. Kris I'm just compiling koffice and it looks like COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe overrides the koffice defaults (no CFLAGS defined in make.conf). The default CFLAGS value *is* -O -pipe. Kris OK, but it looks like -O overrides -O2 here, right? And if that's true, how can I make the port build use the ports default instead of the system default? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COPTFLAGS (not?) only for compiling the kernel?
On Friday 14 May 2004 01:41, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 01:39:34AM +0200, platanthera wrote: On Friday 14 May 2004 01:09, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 01:12:41AM +0200, platanthera wrote: On Friday 14 May 2004 00:48, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 11:29:07PM +0200, platanthera wrote: [/etc/make.conf] ... # To compile just the kernel with special optimizations, you should use # this instead of CFLAGS (which is not applicable to kernel builds anyway). # There is very little to gain by using higher optimization levels, and doing # so can cause problems. # COPTFLAGS= [whatever] ... just the kernel... sounds like COPTFLAGS setting should not effect world or port builds, but apparently it does. It shouldn't, CFLAGS is used for that. Kris I'm just compiling koffice and it looks like COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe overrides the koffice defaults (no CFLAGS defined in make.conf). The default CFLAGS value *is* -O -pipe. Kris OK, but it looks like -O overrides -O2 here, right? It depends which comes later in the gcc arguments. And if that's true, how can I make the port build use the ports default instead of the system default? The policy of the ports collection is that all ports should use CFLAGS instead of their own crazy defaults, which are often not appropriate. If you want to compile your ports with -O2 -pipe (recommended against because of compiler or system bugs it sometimes exposes), set CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe. Kris Thank you very much for your help. Just one last question (slightly getting OT) - are CFLAGS settings on FreeBSD more critical than on Linux? http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html recommends -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer 'for those who don't want to experiment, want a stable system, but still optimized..' ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Out of curiousity: Who am I mailing to?
On Wednesday 12 May 2004 06:42, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote: Sir, ... I'm just wondrin' who exactly am I mailing to? ... Not exclusively to male individuals. Please try not to make anyone feel you're not interested in their opinion because of their gender. thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
strange system behavevior
Sorry for not choosing a more specific subject line, I've got no idea what's going on with my system. Please help me to find out. My problems started a few days ago when I updated security/cfs to version 1.4.1_1. After doing that, clear text access to encrypted directories was no longer possible. #mount -o -U,port=3049,intr,nfsv2 localhost:/null /crypt $ cmkdir new $ cattach new NEW $ ls /crypt/NEW/ -- shell doesn't respond any more; kernel: pid xxx (cfsd), uid yyy: exited on signal 10 I rebuilt world, kernel and cfs using very conservative CFLAGS settings - without any success. Tried the GENERIC kernel - same result. So I downgraded to cfs-1.4.1 which works fine. I notified the cfs maintainer who couldn't reproduce the problem. Yesterday I tried again to upgrade, and it seemed to work. But another problem appeared which apparently doesn't seem to be cfs related. ls(1) crashed when reading a normal directory. I was not able to reproduce this. ls rescue/fred/txt/ Bus error (core dumped) ls rescue/fred/txt/ showthread.htm This morning the cfs problem reappeared, I had to downgrade again. I've checked my disks (using the scsi controlers verify disk utility) and memory (memtest86) - everything seems to be ok. Nothing unusual in the logs. Any hints on how to proceed? Thanks a lot in advance. uname -a FreeBSD liza.hacienda.herti 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 #1: Tue May 4 19:27:22 CEST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/share/FreeBSD/src/sys/LIZA i386 dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 #1: Tue May 4 19:27:22 CEST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/share/FreeBSD/src/sys/LIZA Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xc0767000. Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor (400.91-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x591 Stepping = 1 Features=0x8021bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX AMD Features=0x8800SYSCALL,3DNow! real memory = 201326592 (192 MB) avail memory = 190107648 (181 MB) K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) npx0: [FAST] npx0: math processor on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00fdde0 pcib0: VIA 82C598MVP (Apollo MVP3) host bridge at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 pci_cfgintr: 0:18 INTA BIOS irq 10 pci_cfgintr: 0:19 INTA BIOS irq 14 pci_cfgintr: 0:20 INTA BIOS irq 11 agp0: VIA 82C598 (Apollo MVP3) host to PCI bridge mem 0xf200-0xf3ff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: PCI bus on pcib1 drm0: ATI Radeon If R250 9000 port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xf100-0xf100,0xe000-0xefff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xf200 32MB info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.10.0 20020828 on minor 0 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 pci0: mass storage, ATA at device 7.1 (no driver attached) sym0: 895 port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xf500-0xf5000fff,0xf5001000-0xf50010ff irq 10 at device 18.0 on pci0 sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking pcm0: Creative CT5880-E port 0xdc00-0xdc3f irq 14 at device 19.0 on pci0 pcm0: SigmaTel STAC9708/11 AC97 Codec de0: Digital 21040 Ethernet port 0xe000-0xe07f mem 0xf5002000-0xf500207f irq 11 at device 20.0 on pci0 de0: 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 de0: address 00:80:c8:0c:93:42 orm0: Option ROMs at iomem 0xd-0xd1fff,0xc-0xccfff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) at port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 unknown: PNP0303 can't assign resources (port) unknown: PNP0501 can't assign resources (port) unknown: PNP0700 can't assign resources (port) Timecounter TSC frequency 400911596 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle de0: enabling AUI/BNC port GEOM: create disk cd0 dp=0xc22d8e00 GEOM: create disk cd1 dp=0xc22da600 GEOM: create disk da0 dp=0xc22df850 GEOM: create disk da1 dp=0xc2343450 cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 cd0: TEAC CD-ROM CD-516S 1.0G Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: FUJITSU MAH3091MP 5207 Fixed Direct Access
Re: uninstalling base packages
On Wednesday 12 May 2004 17:04, Chris Ochs wrote: I want to uninstall the heimdal kerberos that comes in the base freebsd install. How do you delete software packages that are in the base install and that I didn't install manually with the package system? Chris You could adjust /etc/make.conf according to your needs and make build/install world. Then search for binaries that haven't been updated and delete them. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sys messages on X desktop
On Wednesday 12 May 2004 20:00, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:47:47 +0200 Martin Vana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I saw a screenshot and there was console running with sysmessages, how can I run such a console? thanx simple version (as root): # tail -f /var/log/messages you don't need to be root to monitor /var/log/messages. have a look at the permissions of the different logfiles ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
