Re: general question about setting up gateway
Richard Yang skrev: hi, i am trying to use freebsd as my home network gateway to the internet. any good reference i should know besides what's in the handbook? thanks rich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1857 - Release Date: 2008-12-19 10:09 Hello Richard, The first step is really easy - assuming you have a FreeBSD with two nics in it - edit /etc/rc.conf and comment out the line that starts with 'defaultrouter=' and then add a line saying 'gateway_enable=YES. The second step is a bit more complicated - you will have to decide on a firewall and a NAT mechanism. Depending on your choice here you will have to do various things to implement it. The handbook is a good start when chosing firewall - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls.html . There are alot of other additional information spread out on the (w)internet - here's a couple: ipfilter http://freebsd.peon.net/tutorials/21/ ipfilter and pf resources http://www.obfuscation.org/ipf/ pf http://web.irtnog.org/howtos-orig/freebsd-firewall I hope this will help you get started. Greetings /Roger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: general question about setting up gateway
Richard Yang wrote: hi, i am trying to use freebsd as my home network gateway to the internet. any good reference i should know besides what's in the handbook? thanks rich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org The Freebsd Install guide www.a1poweruser.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: general question - php5 extensions
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 22:47 -0400, Brad Mettee wrote: Ok, maybe I wasn't as clear as I should have been. It wasn't that I didn't find php5-extensions, or even that it's difficult to use, but actually tracking down the php5-extensions directory in the first place was somewhat of a problem because there is no mention anywhere of it in the lang/php5 doc files. I finally stumbled on a reference to it in a 2 year old doc I found on google while looking for how to make .so extension extensions be found by php. Sometimes in these situations a little bit of lateral thinking can be helpful. A couple of quick searches may have found you what you wanted: %locate php | grep extension /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions/Makefile /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions/pkg-descr /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions/Makefile /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions/pkg-descr %cd /usr/portsmake quicksearch name=extension | grep -i php Port: php4-extensions-1.0 Path: /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions Info: A meta-port to install PHP extensions Port: php5-extensions-1.1 Path: /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions Info: A meta-port to install PHP extensions Alternatively pipe to less(1) rather than grep(1) and use its search (/) which can help to locate context-related information which might otherwise be hidden by the more rigid grep filtering. There's also a couple of extensions not in the php5-extensions list, but I found them as well (samba share, dir php5-* /ad /s starting in the /usr/ports directory helped a lot). find(1) will help you kick that nasty MS-DOS habit: find /usr/ports -type d -name php5-* and even: ls -d /usr/ports/*/php5-* could help reduce gratuitous use of SMB. If you feel strongly enough that the existing documentation is inadequate, you always have the option of submitting a PR to suggest that it be changed, and also of submitting patches that implement your suggestion. Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question - php5 extensions
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:47:50 -0400 Brad Mettee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] You're portmanager line has been very helpful, everything that I was trying to get installed is actually working! I only had one problem and that's because Mail-Toaster defines itself as a package without defining an ORIGIN line in it's +CONTENTS pkg file. Once I added that I stopped getting portmanager upgrade errors and everything got properly upgraded and compiled. Glad to hear it worked for you. Regarding the problem with toaster, did you file a PR or report it to the maintainer? It might help to avoid problems for other users. -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll probably still be a dog. Sigh! There's so little hope for advancement. Snoopy signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: general question - php5 extensions
Hadn't even occurred to me to file a PR. Getting the whole process working kinda derailled all trains of thought outside of alright!, it works!. Good idea, will let him know about it. At 07:35 AM 7/12/2008, you wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:47:50 -0400 Brad Mettee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] You're portmanager line has been very helpful, everything that I was trying to get installed is actually working! I only had one problem and that's because Mail-Toaster defines itself as a package without defining an ORIGIN line in it's +CONTENTS pkg file. Once I added that I stopped getting portmanager upgrade errors and everything got properly upgraded and compiled. Glad to hear it worked for you. Regarding the problem with toaster, did you file a PR or report it to the maintainer? It might help to avoid problems for other users. -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll probably still be a dog. Sigh! There's so little hope for advancement. Snoopy Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 - Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. - - Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 - visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question - php5 extensions
On 11 Jul 2008, at 20:30, Brad Mettee wrote: I've been banging my head for 2 days trying to get php5 compiled with extensions OR a way to find the .so files so it could dynamically link them. I've finally stumbled on the php5-* directories in the ports tree and it's compiling extensions right now, except that I keep having to deinstall an extension then restart the php5-extension make again so it can continue. Why isn't there a single folder under the lang/php5 directory that would put all of the extensions in the same place? Having them broken up into all of the varying places in the tree makes it extremely difficult to find them. Or maybe at least have sym links to them in one place. This is just for discussion, I don't expect an actual answer.. /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions -Stut -- http://stut.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question - php5 extensions
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:30:21 -0400 Brad Mettee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been banging my head for 2 days trying to get php5 compiled with extensions OR a way to find the .so files so it could dynamically link them. I've finally stumbled on the php5-* directories in the ports tree and it's compiling extensions right now, except that I keep having to deinstall an extension then restart the php5-extension make again so it can continue. Why isn't there a single folder under the lang/php5 directory that would put all of the extensions in the same place? Having them broken up into all of the varying places in the tree makes it extremely difficult to find them. Or maybe at least have sym links to them in one place. This is just for discussion, I don't expect an actual answer.. Are you referring to 'php5-extensions-1.1' in the ports tree? Assuming you have installed php5 via ports, why couldn't you just run: portupgrade -NRryv php5-extensions You will probably want to run 'make config' in that directory before running portupgrade. You could also use portmanager: portmanager lang/php5-extensions -p -y -l HTH -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, give me a home, Where the buffalo roam, And I'll show you a house with a really messy kitchen. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: general question - php5 extensions
Ok, maybe I wasn't as clear as I should have been. It wasn't that I didn't find php5-extensions, or even that it's difficult to use, but actually tracking down the php5-extensions directory in the first place was somewhat of a problem because there is no mention anywhere of it in the lang/php5 doc files. I finally stumbled on a reference to it in a 2 year old doc I found on google while looking for how to make .so extension extensions be found by php. There's also a couple of extensions not in the php5-extensions list, but I found them as well (samba share, dir php5-* /ad /s starting in the /usr/ports directory helped a lot). You're portmanager line has been very helpful, everything that I was trying to get installed is actually working! I only had one problem and that's because Mail-Toaster defines itself as a package without defining an ORIGIN line in it's +CONTENTS pkg file. Once I added that I stopped getting portmanager upgrade errors and everything got properly upgraded and compiled. At 03:59 PM 7/11/2008, you wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:30:21 -0400 Brad Mettee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been banging my head for 2 days trying to get php5 compiled with extensions OR a way to find the .so files so it could dynamically link them. I've finally stumbled on the php5-* directories in the ports tree and it's compiling extensions right now, except that I keep having to deinstall an extension then restart the php5-extension make again so it can continue. Why isn't there a single folder under the lang/php5 directory that would put all of the extensions in the same place? Having them broken up into all of the varying places in the tree makes it extremely difficult to find them. Or maybe at least have sym links to them in one place. This is just for discussion, I don't expect an actual answer.. Are you referring to 'php5-extensions-1.1' in the ports tree? Assuming you have installed php5 via ports, why couldn't you just run: portupgrade -NRryv php5-extensions You will probably want to run 'make config' in that directory before running portupgrade. You could also use portmanager: portmanager lang/php5-extensions -p -y -l HTH -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, give me a home, Where the buffalo roam, And I'll show you a house with a really messy kitchen. Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 - Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. - - Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 - visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question re: performance
Glenn Becker : I'm running 6.2 on an old but not ancient Dell laptop, PIII 1000MHz, which now has seven operating systems on it. I have noticed recently that the graphics-heavy planetarium program Stellarium -- which runs great on my Debian GNU/Linux system -- barely creaks along on FreeBSD and is basically unusable. You need direct rendering to be enabled from Xorg. Check it with glxinfo $ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes === must be yes What is your graphics card ? Is it generally accepted that a custom kernel with all the fat trimmed will help? No. (stellarium is very nice!) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question re: performance
Patrick - You need direct rendering to be enabled from Xorg. Check it with glxinfo $ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes === must be yes What is your graphics card ? It's an ATI Radeon Mobility with 16mb video memory. I got Stellarium to behave based on a previous post. Thanks. (stellarium is very nice!) It IS. :^) +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 8:38 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Well, that and he's trying to install -RELEASE packages on a -RELEASE system with -STABLE ports. How does one tell ports to install -STABLE packages - is that uname-dependent? -- Kirk Strauser pgpEtRmx4Y9Ll.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:58:08AM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Wednesday 10 January 2007 8:38 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Well, that and he's trying to install -RELEASE packages on a -RELEASE system with -STABLE ports. How does one tell ports to install -STABLE packages - is that uname-dependent? Yeah, if uname = *-STABLE it gets the stable packages. You can just set PACKAGESITE if you want to use the poorly-tested but updated stable packages on a release system. Kris pgpmW6hlFdayt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: general question about packages and ports working together [solved]
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 04:13 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:10:59AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 04:05 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:47:34AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 03:38 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my country... That is the right log: vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release /Lat es t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done. Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release /All /k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Kris Hello Kris, that is the problem... The other mail I sent before handles abaout the kdelibs-upgrade I did two days ago. And you will see, that the building stopped where cups should be integrated. You see also, that it failed and that was the reason I installed the kdelibs-nocups port. The kdelibs don't want to be installed. I don't understand why... OK, that's what you need to solve. You can either post your errors here so we can try to solve them, or just delete the nocups port and go with the package. Kris Hello again, this is the log of kdelibs3: vagabund# cd /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3 vagabund# make install ~/kdelibs3-install.log vagabund# And here are the last few raws of kdelibs3-install.log: OK, make sure everything required by kdelibs is up-to-date (with portupgrade -R kdelibs or similar). It is buildable on a clean 4.x system, although since 4.x is EOL in a couple of weeks you might prefer to spend your time on an upgrade to a supported version like 6.2. Kris ... many hours and a portupgrade -R kdelibs later ... It works now... And the lessons learned today: I forgot one small argument on the command line... what a pity... Thanks honestly for this help. With regards Stevan Tiefert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris pgpBoKI9Ij3fZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris That is what I did: vagabund# cd /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3 vagabund# make install ~/kdelibs3-install.log vagabund# And here are the last few raws of kdelibs3-install.log: ... Making all in lpdunix gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/lpdunix' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/lpdunix' Making all in cups gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' Making all in cupsdconf2 gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups/cupsdconf2' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups/cupsdconf2' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' if /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../dcop -I../../kdecore -I../../kio/kssl -I../../kjs -I../.. -I../../kio -I../../kfile -I../../kdeprint -I../../kdeprint/management -I../../kdecore/network -I../../dcop -I../../libltdl -I../../kdefx -I../../kdecore -I../../kdecore -I../../kdecore/network -I../../kdeui -I../../kio -I../../kio/kio -I../../kio/kfile -I../.. -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -D_KDEPRINT_COMPILE -D_THREAD_SAFE -pthread -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_THREAD_SAFE -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -MT ipprequest.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ipprequest.Tpo -c -o ipprequest.lo ipprequest.cpp; \ then mv -f .deps/ipprequest.Tpo .deps/ipprequest.Plo; else rm -f .deps/ipprequest.Tpo; exit 1; fi ipprequest.cpp: In static member function `static QString IppRequest::assembleURI(const QString, int, const QString)': ipprequest.cpp:573: error: incomplete type `KURL' used in nested name specifier ipprequest.cpp:577: error: incomplete type `KURL' used in nested name specifier gmake[4]: *** [ipprequest.lo] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3. Maybe it will help? Stevan Tiefert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my country... That is the right log: vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Lates t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done. Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# Thanks for your help!!! Stevan Tiefert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my country... That is the right log: vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Lates t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done. Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Kris pgpn1Egi9izw5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 03:38 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my country... That is the right log: vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Lates t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done. Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Kris Hello Kris, that is the problem... The other mail I sent before handles abaout the kdelibs-upgrade I did two days ago. And you will see, that the building stopped where cups should be integrated. You see also, that it failed and that was the reason I installed the kdelibs-nocups port. The kdelibs don't want to be installed. I don't understand why... Stevan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:47:34AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 03:38 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my country... That is the right log: vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Lates t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done. Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All/k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Kris Hello Kris, that is the problem... The other mail I sent before handles abaout the kdelibs-upgrade I did two days ago. And you will see, that the building stopped where cups should be integrated. You see also, that it failed and that was the reason I installed the kdelibs-nocups port. The kdelibs don't want to be installed. I don't understand why... OK, that's what you need to solve. You can either post your errors here so we can try to solve them, or just delete the nocups port and go with the package. Kris pgpFcMdcFDLdT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 04:05 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:47:34AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 03:38 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my country... That is the right log: vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Lat es t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done. Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All /k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Kris Hello Kris, that is the problem... The other mail I sent before handles abaout the kdelibs-upgrade I did two days ago. And you will see, that the building stopped where cups should be integrated. You see also, that it failed and that was the reason I installed the kdelibs-nocups port. The kdelibs don't want to be installed. I don't understand why... OK, that's what you need to solve. You can either post your errors here so we can try to solve them, or just delete the nocups port and go with the package. Kris Hello again, this is the log of kdelibs3: vagabund# cd /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3 vagabund# make install ~/kdelibs3-install.log vagabund# And here are the last few raws of kdelibs3-install.log: ... Making all in lpdunix gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/lpdunix' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/lpdunix' Making all in cups gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' Making all in cupsdconf2 gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups/cupsdconf2' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups/cupsdconf2' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' if /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../dcop -I../../kdecore -I../../kio/kssl -I../../kjs -I../.. -I../../kio -I../../kfile -I../../kdeprint -I../../kdeprint/management -I../../kdecore/network -I../../dcop -I../../libltdl -I../../kdefx -I../../kdecore -I../../kdecore -I../../kdecore/network -I../../kdeui -I../../kio -I../../kio/kio -I../../kio/kfile -I../.. -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -D_KDEPRINT_COMPILE -D_THREAD_SAFE -pthread -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_THREAD_SAFE -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -MT ipprequest.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ipprequest.Tpo -c -o ipprequest.lo ipprequest.cpp; \ then mv -f .deps/ipprequest.Tpo .deps/ipprequest.Plo; else rm -f .deps/ipprequest.Tpo; exit 1; fi ipprequest.cpp: In static member function `static QString IppRequest::assembleURI(const QString, int, const QString)': ipprequest.cpp:573: error: incomplete type `KURL' used in nested name specifier ipprequest.cpp:577: error: incomplete type `KURL' used in nested name specifier gmake[4]: *** [ipprequest.lo] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.5/kdeprint/cups' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
Re: general question about packages and ports working together
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:10:59AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 04:05 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:47:34AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 03:38 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:18AM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 02:47 schrieb Kris Kennaway: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:49:04PM +0100, Stevan Tiefert wrote: Hello list, portaudit suggested me to update kdelibs. Ok I've done it via ports. Two days later I wanted to add the package de-koffice-i18n. The package de-koffice-i18n tried to install also my unsecure kdelibs again, if I hadn't stopped it I would now have two kdelibs on my harddrive... May it be that the packages are not accepting the newer versions from the ports? No, this should not be it. Post the exact output of the commands you tried so we can try to help. Kris Excuse me! It seems that I need sleep :-( It is 3:30 am in my country... That is the right log: vagabund# pkg_add -r de-koffice-i18n Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/Lat es t/de-koffice-i18n.tbz... Done. Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.1-release/All /k delibs-3.5.1_1.tbz... Done. pkg_add: package 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' conflicts with kdelibs-nocups-3.5.5 pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or -f to f orce installation pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'kdelibs-3.5.1_1' failed! vagabund# That's the problem, you have a conflicting package (kdelibs built with WITHOUT_CUPS set) installed. If you really want to use packages you'll need to revert that to the standard setting of including cups support. Kris Hello Kris, that is the problem... The other mail I sent before handles abaout the kdelibs-upgrade I did two days ago. And you will see, that the building stopped where cups should be integrated. You see also, that it failed and that was the reason I installed the kdelibs-nocups port. The kdelibs don't want to be installed. I don't understand why... OK, that's what you need to solve. You can either post your errors here so we can try to solve them, or just delete the nocups port and go with the package. Kris Hello again, this is the log of kdelibs3: vagabund# cd /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3 vagabund# make install ~/kdelibs3-install.log vagabund# And here are the last few raws of kdelibs3-install.log: OK, make sure everything required by kdelibs is up-to-date (with portupgrade -R kdelibs or similar). It is buildable on a clean 4.x system, although since 4.x is EOL in a couple of weeks you might prefer to spend your time on an upgrade to a supported version like 6.2. Kris pgptup6hjw0fe.pgp Description: PGP signature
A General Question.
Hi I hope I am directing my question to the correct address. Could you please send me a link to a page numerating contrasting BSD and Linux, i.e. what are the advantages and disadvantages to either system? Thank you in advance, Daniel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A General Question.
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php (good one) http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:30 AM, D W wrote: Hi I hope I am directing my question to the correct address. Could you please send me a link to a page numerating contrasting BSD and Linux, i.e. what are the advantages and disadvantages to either system? Thank you in advance, Daniel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] !DSPAM:1,44c7f3af6298456127143! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: General Question
M. Cummins wrote: Hi. Sorry about the HTML formatted email. I'm extremely interested in installation of a FreeBSD build on a Dell Dimension XPS P133s 133 MHz / 16 MB RAM, with a S3 Trio 64+ PCI (765) and D-Link DFE 530-TX PCI adapter. I've noted the HCL for version 5 (or maybe it was 6?) but I figure I would do better to simply ask - what version do I need to run with my current hardware, and what is the highest version I can run on the machine that I plan to install on? Before you get too far on the reply, please also consider that I primarily want to use the computer for a webserver (for my LAN) in console mode (I doubt a GUI is a good idea considering the hardware I'm using. Oh, and sorry if this is inapproprite, but I have no experience with UNIX and really need to learn it. I figured FreeBSD was my best shot at it, based on what I've seen. I've been looking at 2.2.8 and it seems to be a decent choice, but I do consider that you probably know more about this than I do. We've all been there. Why don't you start with something like http://www.google.se/search?num=100hl=enq=freebsd+%22minimum+requirements%22+install+site%3Afreebsd.orgbtnG=Search to see what others did and experienced ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: General Question
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:35:37PM -0700, M. Cummins wrote: Hi. Sorry about the HTML formatted email. I'm extremely interested in installation of a FreeBSD build on a Dell Dimension XPS P133s 133 MHz / 16 MB RAM, with a S3 Trio 64+ PCI (765) and D-Link DFE 530-TX PCI adapter. I've noted the HCL for version 5 (or maybe it was 6?) but I figure I would do better to simply ask - what version do I need to run with my current hardware, and what is the highest version I can run on the machine that I plan to install on? Before you get too far on the reply, please also consider that I primarily want to use the computer for a webserver (for my LAN) in console mode (I doubt a GUI is a good idea considering the hardware I'm using. I don't believe there is anything which has been done to the latest versions to *prevent* it from running on your machine. Since you mentioned FreeBSD 2.2.8, I have fond memories of abusing almost exactly the same machine you describe but with a whopping 24 MB of RAM. Ran Apache, NetAtalk, Samba, the basic X11 system with practically no window manager. Netscape Navigator for http client and exmh2 for email. Also burned a lot of CD's on that machine, and wrote a lot of DAT tapes. Built another machine around a PII-233 with (4) DAT3 drives. Would run all 4 DAT drives at once. No problems. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: General Question
You can try the current version 6.0, or 5.4. Try to install without a GUI to minimise load. Learning FBSD may be a bit steep at first since you have no unix background. Try reading up on the Handbook to get started: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html - Original Message - From: M. Cummins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: General Question Hi. Sorry about the HTML formatted email. I'm extremely interested in installation of a FreeBSD build on a Dell Dimension XPS P133s 133 MHz / 16 MB RAM, with a S3 Trio 64+ PCI (765) and D-Link DFE 530-TX PCI adapter. I've noted the HCL for version 5 (or maybe it was 6?) but I figure I would do better to simply ask - what version do I need to run with my current hardware, and what is the highest version I can run on the machine that I plan to install on? Before you get too far on the reply, please also consider that I primarily want to use the computer for a webserver (for my LAN) in console mode (I doubt a GUI is a good idea considering the hardware I'm using. Oh, and sorry if this is inapproprite, but I have no experience with UNIX and really need to learn it. I figured FreeBSD was my best shot at it, based on what I've seen. I've been looking at 2.2.8 and it seems to be a decent choice, but I do consider that you probably know more about this than I do. Thanks for even reading, and doubly so if you can help! Gratefully, Miles ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla 1.3 port problem - general question about bug report
On 11 Jun kusa wrote: I have a portudate problem on mozilla-1.3.1,2 after I updated my ports by cvs : I can't get it to recognize all the dependencies and it throws me this error after checking a bunch of things that are marked as ok After the portupgrade, did you do a # cd /usr/ports # make index # pkgdb-u -(I don't like pkgdb -uU which is supposed to do the same, but gives diff results..)- After that I would begin with a portupgrade -rR portupgrade -(the base of all things.. ;-)- You probably will loose the next error msgs.. *** Your version of pkg-config is too old. You need version 0.9.0 or newer. *** See http://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig And because mozilla depends on a lot of things other than itself I would recomment a portupgrade -rR mozilla if you have mozilla already installed. That way you can be sure that *all dependancies* are met. Take some time off during compile.. ;) If mozilla is not installed yet a portinstall mozilla handles it all. -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.8 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICC vs. GCC: General question
Hi folks, (newbee, forgive my ignorance ... trying to gain some insight ... ) I have general compiler questions following on a thread in -current after the import of 3.2.2. One poster suggests icc for p4 target compatibility over gcc32. I have no specific need (i.e., no particular program to optimize) I'm just curious as to which compiler would be preferable for general performance on 5.0-RELEASE. Can icc buildworld/kernel an ports for 5.0? If it can, would it make a performance difference for a desktop configuration of 5.0 (world, kernel+modules, X, moz, gnome and/or KDE, multimedia playback, OO)? Thanks /Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: ICC vs. GCC: General question
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:08:05PM +0100, Paul A. Mayer wrote: Thanks, Kris. BTW: Hmmm, fails to build for me: ( lang/gcc32 port) Why do you need to build the gcc32 port when 5.0 already includes gcc 3.2.x? Ktis msg18950/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ICC vs. GCC: General question
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:11:42PM +0100, Paul A. Mayer wrote: I have no specific need (i.e., no particular program to optimize) I'm just curious as to which compiler would be preferable for general performance on 5.0-RELEASE. Can icc buildworld/kernel an ports for 5.0? No. It can only build some ports (both due to gccisms in code). kris msg18960/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ICC vs. GCC: General question
Thanks, Kris. BTW: Hmmm, fails to build for me: ( lang/gcc32 port) FreeBSD asus 5.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p1 #3: Mon Feb 10 10:39:34 CET 2003 root@asus:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ASUS i386 gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc32/work/build/gcc' for d in libgcc; do \ if [ -d $d ]; then true; else /bin/sh .././..//gcc-3.2.2/gcc/mkinstalldirs $d; fi; \ done if [ -f stmp-dirs ]; then true; else touch stmp-dirs; fi gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc32/work/build/gcc' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc32/work/build/gcc' gmake[1]: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Illegal instruction (core dumped) gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc32/work/build' gmake: *** [bootstrap] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc32. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade97111.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/gcc32(missing header) Any ideas? /Paul Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:11:42PM +0100, Paul A. Mayer wrote: I have no specific need (i.e., no particular program to optimize) I'm just curious as to which compiler would be preferable for general performance on 5.0-RELEASE. Can icc buildworld/kernel an ports for 5.0? No. It can only build some ports (both due to gccisms in code). kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message